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C.G. Learn

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Dec 5, 2003, 2:02:41 PM12/5/03
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I have a old tape dialer that has been in my house forever, and works
flawlessly, but I need the dialer tape re-recorded with new numbers.
This is a API (Alarm Products International) unit made in Haphauge NY.
They are out of business now, and they made the unit themselves. Does
anyone know if I can still get a new tape recorded. It looks like a 8
trak tape. There must be some old recording units for alarms somewhere.
Any help would be appreciated.

Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 5, 2003, 3:42:11 PM12/5/03
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Subject: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "C.G. Learn" NoS...@worldnet.att.net
Date: 12/5/2003 2:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <Xns94488EDA4D36...@204.127.36.1>


Mike Said:
I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $ 175.00
plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.


Mike, Sr.
32 Years in the trade
http://www.AlarmServicesInc.com

Online Store
http://www.AlarmSuperStore.com
The Internet's finest online source for DIY security products and services
FREE Shipping $ 100.00 or More
All others just===> $5.95

Robert L. Bass

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Dec 5, 2003, 10:47:06 PM12/5/03
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> Mike Said:
> I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
175.00
> plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.

A less costly alternative is to replace the tape dialer with a digital
voice/pager dialer. There are several popular models around. They have no
moving parts, don't require a programmer and draw significantly less current
during an alarm than a mechanical tape dialer.

Visonic makes one called a DL-125C. I've sold a fair number of them and so
far they've been trouble free.
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/product_4270_detailed.htm

United security has several popular models with similar features. I carry
both lines but only some of the USP products are displayed on my new site.
I'll enter the pages for the remaininfg models shortly.
http://www.unitedsecurity.com/autodialers.htm

Regards,
Robert

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Frank Olson

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"Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Alarm Products International Tape
> From: "C.G. Learn" NoS...@worldnet.att.net
> Date: 12/5/2003 2:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
> Message-id: <Xns94488EDA4D36...@204.127.36.1>
>
> I have a old tape dialer that has been in my house forever, and works
> flawlessly, but I need the dialer tape re-recorded with new numbers.
> This is a API (Alarm Products International) unit made in Haphauge NY.
> They are out of business now, and they made the unit themselves. Does
> anyone know if I can still get a new tape recorded. It looks like a 8
> trak tape. There must be some old recording units for alarms somewhere.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Mike Said:
> I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
175.00
> plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.


Why not simply offer to make him a tape ($$ plus shipping)?


--
Frank E. Olson
Free listings for qualified industry professionals.
Alarm system information and FAQ's at
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com


Mark Leuck

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Dec 6, 2003, 1:47:48 AM12/6/03
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"Frank Olson" <Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
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> "Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031205154211...@mb-m18.aol.com...
> > Subject: Alarm Products International Tape
> > From: "C.G. Learn" NoS...@worldnet.att.net
> > Date: 12/5/2003 2:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > Message-id: <Xns94488EDA4D36...@204.127.36.1>
> >
> > I have a old tape dialer that has been in my house forever, and works
> > flawlessly, but I need the dialer tape re-recorded with new numbers.
> > This is a API (Alarm Products International) unit made in Haphauge NY.
> > They are out of business now, and they made the unit themselves. Does
> > anyone know if I can still get a new tape recorded. It looks like a 8
> > trak tape. There must be some old recording units for alarms somewhere.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Mike Said:
> > I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
> 175.00
> > plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.
>
>
> Why not simply offer to make him a tape ($$ plus shipping)?

A better question is why is he charging for shipping here when his web site
usually does it for free


Frank Olson

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Dec 6, 2003, 2:07:36 AM12/6/03
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"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > > Mike Said:
> > > I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
> > 175.00
> > > plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.
> >
> >
> > Why not simply offer to make him a tape ($$ plus shipping)?
>
> A better question is why is he charging for shipping here when his web
site
> usually does it for free


You're right!! I missed that... What do you mean "plus shipping", Mikey??

Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 6, 2003, 12:17:18 PM12/6/03
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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Robert L. Bass" rober...@comcast.net
Date: 12/5/2003 10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <1uCdncSqB7W...@giganews.com>

> Mike Said:
> I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
175.00
> plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.

A less costly alternative is to replace the tape dialer with a digital
voice/pager dialer. There are several popular models around. They have no
moving parts, don't require a programmer and draw significantly less current
during an alarm than a mechanical tape dialer.

Regards,
Robert

=============================>


Mike Said;
Goofy is correct. You can see the new voice dialers HERE:
http://alarmsuperstore.com/dialers/dialers.htm


Mike, Sr.
32 Years in the trade
http://www.AlarmServicesInc.com

Online Store
http://www.AlarmSuperStore.com
The Internet's finest online source for DIY security products and services

Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 6, 2003, 12:19:03 PM12/6/03
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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Robert L. Bass" rober...@comcast.net
Date: 12/5/2003 10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <1uCdncSqB7W...@giganews.com>

Regards,
Robert
Bass Home Electronics

**CONSUMER BEWARE**

The above post is brought to you by a Convict that runs online stores known as
Basshome.Com and Bass-Home.com and BassBurglarAlarms.com . He has a bad rap
sheet with the Better Business Bureau in Florida, You can see that HERE:
http://www.clearwater.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=41001663 He has problems
and issues dealing with customers credit cards. You can see that HERE:
http://goofysplace.com/cust3.htm He owned an installation company in
Connecticut for a short while until they caught up to him for lying on his
alarm license application. You can see that HERE: http://goofysplace.com/L5.htm
To try to promote business for his online store he posted BOGUS information in
a competitors guest book. You can read all that HERE:
http://goofysplace.com/andy.htm He has not installed a single protective
device in over six years. He only knows what he reads here. He has started wars
with just about everyone in this newsgroup as well as others. He tried to get
an employee fired from his job. You can read that HERE:
http://goofysplace.com/grahamsboss.htm Over One Hundred people in various news
groups despise this fast, sweet taking SCAMMER. You can see that HERE:

http://goofysplace.com/asalist.htm AND HERE http://goofysplace.com/aviation.htm
You can read more about him HERE: http://goofysplace.com/testimony.htm There is
even a website about him and what he does HERE: http://goofysplace.com/

So you really want to do business with or take advice from Robert L. Bass from
Basshome.com?

Think again - **Consumer Beware** - You have been warned.

Every link posted here can be found at http://www.google.com Just enter Goofy
or Robert L, Bass and you will be amazed at what you see.

Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 6, 2003, 12:23:08 PM12/6/03
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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Mark Leuck" m..leuck@comcast.net
Date: 12/6/2003 1:47 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <oYeAb.311523$9E1.1565265@attbi_s52>

A better question is why is he charging for shipping here when his web site
usually does it for free


Mike Said:
Because the item is not being sold by http://www.AlarmSuperStore.com. Did I
reply with Alarm...@aol.com ? WELL, now I gues you know.

Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 6, 2003, 12:26:01 PM12/6/03
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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Frank Olson" Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com
Date: 12/6/2003 2:07 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <YefAb.572482$6C4.499186@pd7tw1no>


You're right!! I missed that... What do you mean "plus shipping", Mikey??

"FREE Shipping $ 100.00 or More
All others just===> $5.95"

Mike Said:
I replied with Alarm...@aol.com that is the seller.
http://AlarmSuperStore.com did not reply and does not have the item for sale.
Get it Frankie Boy? I don't know who is dumber you or Leuck.

Mike, Sr.
32 Years in the trade
http://www.AlarmServicesInc.com

Online Store
http://www.AlarmSuperStore.com
The Internet's finest online source for DIY security products and services

Frank Olson

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"Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
> From: "Robert L. Bass" rober...@comcast.net
> Date: 12/5/2003 10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
> Message-id: <1uCdncSqB7W...@giganews.com>
>
> > Mike Said:
> > I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
> 175.00
> > plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.
>
> A less costly alternative is to replace the tape dialer with a digital
> voice/pager dialer. There are several popular models around. They have
no
> moving parts, don't require a programmer and draw significantly less
current
> during an alarm than a mechanical tape dialer.
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
> =============================>
>
>
> Mike Said;
> Goofy is correct. You can see the new voice dialers HERE:
> http://alarmsuperstore.com/dialers/dialers.htm


Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot"...

Frank Olson

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"Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
> From: "Robert L. Bass" rober...@comcast.net
> Date: 12/5/2003 10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
> Message-id: <1uCdncSqB7W...@giganews.com>
>
> Regards,
> Robert
> Bass Home Electronics
>
> **CONSUMER BEWARE**


*BANG!*

:-)


Frank Olson

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"Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
> From: "Frank Olson" Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com
> Date: 12/6/2003 2:07 AM Eastern Standard Time
> Message-id: <YefAb.572482$6C4.499186@pd7tw1no>
>
>
> You're right!! I missed that... What do you mean "plus shipping", Mikey??
>
> "FREE Shipping $ 100.00 or More
> All others just===> $5.95"
>
>
>
> Mike Said:
> I replied with Alarm...@aol.com that is the seller.
> http://AlarmSuperStore.com did not reply and does not have the item for
sale.
> Get it Frankie Boy? I don't know who is dumber you or Leuck.


It's easy to get confused what with the four different names you continue
alternating here in the group... Besides which your tag line was still
attached to the first response which only serves to confuse people more...
Who *are* they dealing with when you've got multiple companies all in the
same tag. Must get confusing for you too (if not downright
schizophrenic)...


Alarmsrvcs

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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Frank Olson" Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com
Date: 12/6/2003 12:41 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <VwoAb.583346$9l5.4745@pd7tw2no>

"Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031206122601...@mb-m12.aol.com...
> Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
> From: "Frank Olson" Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com
> Date: 12/6/2003 2:07 AM Eastern Standard Time
> Message-id: <YefAb.572482$6C4.499186@pd7tw1no>
>
>
> You're right!! I missed that... What do you mean "plus shipping", Mikey??
>
> "FREE Shipping $ 100.00 or More
> All others just===> $5.95"
>
>
>
> Mike Said:
> I replied with Alarm...@aol.com that is the seller.
> http://AlarmSuperStore.com did not reply and does not have the item for
sale.
> Get it Frankie Boy? I don't know who is dumber you or Leuck.

Frank Said:
It's easy to get confused what with the four different names you continue
alternating here in the group... Besides which your tag line was still
attached to the first response which only serves to confuse people more...
Who *are* they dealing with when you've got multiple companies all in the
same tag. Must get confusing for you too (if not downright
schizophrenic)...

Mike Said:
Funny just you and Leuck are the only two that got confused, I understand, two
minds think alike. OK Listen up, HERE WE GO...
Ready....

http://www.AlarmServicesInc.com is my Sales- Service-Installation company. I
post HERE using Alarm...@aol.com

http://www.AlarmSuperStore.com is my online store and I post HERE using
AlarmSu...@aol.com

NOW FRANKIE BOY.. If the post comes from Alarm...@aol.com the message in the
body of that post has came from AlarmServicesInc.com

If the post comes from AlarmSu...@aol.com the message in the body of that
post came from AlarmSuperStore.com

See. It is really easy when you have a few living brain cells.
Do you still need further explanation?

PS: I am still waiting for the address to send my payment for my laptop. OR was
that all bullshit too and you really had no laptops for sale.


Mike, Sr.
32 Years in the trade
http://www.AlarmServicesInc.com

Online Store
http://www.AlarmSuperStore.com
The Internet's finest online source for DIY security products and services

Mark Leuck

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Dec 6, 2003, 1:31:24 PM12/6/03
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"Frank Olson" <Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
news:YqoAb.579431$pl3.294732@pd7tw3no...

> "Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031206121718...@mb-m12.aol.com...
> > Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
> > From: "Robert L. Bass" rober...@comcast.net
> > Date: 12/5/2003 10:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > Message-id: <1uCdncSqB7W...@giganews.com>
> >
> > > Mike Said:
> > > I have a programmer for them tapes. I will sell the programmer for $
> > 175.00
> > > plus shipping then you can do all the tapes that you want.
> >
> > A less costly alternative is to replace the tape dialer with a digital
> > voice/pager dialer. There are several popular models around. They have
> no
> > moving parts, don't require a programmer and draw significantly less
> current
> > during an alarm than a mechanical tape dialer.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Robert
> >
> > =============================>
> >
> >
> > Mike Said;
> > Goofy is correct. You can see the new voice dialers HERE:
> > http://alarmsuperstore.com/dialers/dialers.htm
>
>
> Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot"...

Mike has been doing that for years now


Robert L. Bass

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Dec 6, 2003, 3:03:33 PM12/6/03
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>> Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot"...
>
> Mike has been doing that for years now

The bullets just ricochet off his toe and into his teeth.


Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 6, 2003, 8:24:40 PM12/6/03
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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Robert L. Bass" rober...@comcast.net
Date: 12/6/2003 3:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <WJednaQvVYm...@giganews.com>

>> Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot"...
>
> Mike has been doing that for years now

Goofy Said:
The bullets just ricochet off his toe and into his teeth.

Mike Told Goofy:
BUT here is the whole shootin Gallery:

C.G. Learn

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Dec 7, 2003, 8:16:03 AM12/7/03
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"Robert L. Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> A less costly alternative is to replace the tape dialer with a
digital
> voice/pager dialer. There are several popular models around. They
> have no moving parts, don't require a programmer and draw
> significantly less current during an alarm than a mechanical tape
> dialer.
>
>

Do they still make an alarm with a built in dialer. I would be
interested in upgrading if so. The dialer you suggested would work as
a work around, but the alarm would not shut down after the tape ends
as it does now. I don't want to use a monitor service, as the budget
is very tight.

Frank Olson

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Dec 7, 2003, 10:10:34 AM12/7/03
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"C.G. Learn" <NoS...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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What kind of alarm system do you have?? Who's the manufacturer??

Most tape dialers I've seen are simple output devices attached to the alarm
through the bell circuit and a relay. They don't have any control over
shutting it down. What you're probably referring to is the fact that the
siren output is only active for a set period (usually four minutes but many
systems can be programmed for shorter times as well).

C.G. Learn

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Dec 7, 2003, 11:16:57 AM12/7/03
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"Frank Olson" <Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in
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No, this was made by Alarp product International. It's a full alarm
sysem box with a built in tape dialer. It has contact points for door
switches, duel techs, fire alarm sensers, and alarm sirens. It is a
very nice system, but I can't get the tape recorder anymore because
no one has the equipment to record a new tape. If the alarm goes off,
it sounds a siren and dials the numbers provided with a pre recorded
message of a fire or burglary. The alarm will then shut down till the
circuit is tripped again, or stays open for a pre determined time. I
know it old, but it's a good system. I just can't afford to pay for a
monitored system, it's not in the budget, so a tape dialer alarm is
the best system for me, but I can't find an alarm system anymore with
a dialer built in. Thanks, and sorry I got long winded.

Frank Olson

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Dec 7, 2003, 11:33:08 AM12/7/03
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"C.G. Learn" <NoS...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> No, this was made by Alarp product International. It's a full alarm
> sysem box with a built in tape dialer. It has contact points for door
> switches, duel techs, fire alarm sensers, and alarm sirens. It is a
> very nice system, but I can't get the tape recorder anymore because
> no one has the equipment to record a new tape. If the alarm goes off,
> it sounds a siren and dials the numbers provided with a pre recorded
> message of a fire or burglary. The alarm will then shut down till the
> circuit is tripped again, or stays open for a pre determined time. I
> know it old, but it's a good system. I just can't afford to pay for a
> monitored system, it's not in the budget, so a tape dialer alarm is
> the best system for me, but I can't find an alarm system anymore with
> a dialer built in. Thanks, and sorry I got long winded.

Sounds to me like you're going to need to upgrade your system (if Mike's
unwilling to program a new tape for you). It's going to take a little
"work" on your part to do so. Some of the simplest to program products
around are manufactured by DSC. The system on it's own can communicate an
alarm to a pocket pager but then you're getting into the realm of spending
money every month for this service. If you have a cell phone, Robert Bass
suggested using the Visonic dialer which I've had very good results from.
Here's the link to Visonic's website:

http://www.visonic.com:8080/visonic/VisonicHomePage.nsf/sysProductActiveByName/3091229AD6F55D7EC2256C3D001FCFFF?OpenDocument

Any one of the on line dealers here:

http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/buyingonline.htm

should be able to help you.

Robert doesn't enjoy a good deal of respect in this group (as you've no
doubt observed). He's a huge advocate for "do-it-yourself", something most
people would find extremely challenging. In your case, it would be a fairly
simple matter to change out the controls (since all the hard work has been
done already). You can visit a number of alarm system manufacturers from
this link:

http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/systems.htm

Any of the online dealers will be able to help you.

C.G. Learn

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Dec 7, 2003, 11:39:20 AM12/7/03
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"Frank Olson" <Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in
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> Sounds to me like you're going to need to upgrade your system (if
> Mike's unwilling to program a new tape for you). It's going to
take a
> little "work" on your part to do so. Some of the simplest to
program
> products around are manufactured by DSC. The system on it's own
can
> communicate an alarm to a pocket pager but then you're getting into
> the realm of spending money every month for this service. If you
have
> a cell phone, Robert Bass suggested using the Visonic dialer which
> I've had very good results from. Here's the link to Visonic's
website:
>

Thanks, I will check out the links you gave me. When it comes to the
older systems, I am no novice, as I used to do this work, but like
most of us older techs, I let the new stuff pass me by. I went on to
other things. I can re wire the house if I have to, I just want to
find a all in one system that does not require a monitoring station,
but that to may become an option as all other options are closing.
Thanks for your help and responses.

Frank Olson

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Dec 7, 2003, 11:55:25 AM12/7/03
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"C.G. Learn" <NoS...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks, I will check out the links you gave me. When it comes to the
> older systems, I am no novice, as I used to do this work, but like
> most of us older techs, I let the new stuff pass me by. I went on to
> other things. I can re wire the house if I have to, I just want to
> find a all in one system that does not require a monitoring station,
> but that to may become an option as all other options are closing.
> Thanks for your help and responses.

No problem!!

If there's nothing wrong with your old system, I'd suggest emailing Mike and
asking him what he would charge to program a new tape for you. I can't
imagine it would be prohibitively expensive. Buying the programmer from him
would also involve less headache on your part, but paying $175.00 for
something that's probably been gathering dust in his garage is a bit "much".
I'm sure no reasonable offer would be refused.

Good luck!!

C.G. Learn

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Dec 7, 2003, 12:45:16 PM12/7/03
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"Frank Olson" <Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in
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> "C.G. Learn" <NoS...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns944A768AB8C9...@204.127.36.1...
>

> No problem!!
>
> If there's nothing wrong with your old system, I'd suggest emailing
> Mike and asking him what he would charge to program a new tape for
> you. I can't imagine it would be prohibitively expensive. Buying the
> programmer from him would also involve less headache on your part, but
> paying $175.00 for something that's probably been gathering dust in
> his garage is a bit "much". I'm sure no reasonable offer would be
> refused.
>
> Good luck!!
>
>

Already done that, waiting on a response from him. I sent it through reg
e-mail. Thanks again

Carl

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Dec 7, 2003, 1:00:29 PM12/7/03
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I remember those panels quite well. API was out of Long Island City (Queens)
NY. They must be out of business going on 15 years or so. We used to use
their product. I believe the unit you have was available as a dialer only
and with an integated control unit. Easist way to remedy this situation is
to disconnect your unit from the phone line and install a digital dialer
unit from Linear across the bell terminals and connect this unit to the
phone line. I would also remove the tape from your dialer as well.


Frank Olson

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"Alarmsrvcs" <alarm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape

> Frank Said:

Hmmm... AlarmSuperStore a division of ASI (Alarm Services Inc.)? "Make
checks & money orders payable to ASI".

Is further explanation required?? No. I figure it's all pretty clear.


>
> PS: I am still waiting for the address to send my payment for my laptop.
OR was
> that all bullshit too and you really had no laptops for sale.


The one's advertised are all gone, unfortunately (they move pretty fast).
If you're really "in the market", send me an email and I'll set one with
your particular requirements aside next time. I have to tell you that it's
been a while since I've seen a Mattel "See and Spell" machine that's used
and in good condition though. :-)


Alarmsrvcs

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Dec 7, 2003, 1:08:18 PM12/7/03
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Subject: Re: Alarm Products International Tape
From: "Frank Olson" Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com
Date: 12/7/2003 11:55 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <1YIAb.590343$6C4.251355@pd7tw1no>

Buying the programmer from him would also involve less headache on your part,
but paying $175.00 for something that's probably been gathering dust in his
garage is a bit "much".
I'm sure no reasonable offer would be refused.
Good luck!!
--
Frank E. Olson
Free listings for qualified industry professionals.
Alarm system information and FAQ's at
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com

Mike said:
Frank, there is no kown other programmers that have surrived. The price
reflects this also. Not like you can run down to ADI and buy a piece of alarm
history.

I bet this is the combination control/Dialer that he has
http://alarmsuperstore.com/nostalgia/api/Api202.pdf

And on the bottom of this page is the programmrer:
http://alarmsuperstore.com/nostalgia/api/202P.pdf

Man I am showing my age.

Robert L. Bass

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Dec 7, 2003, 1:23:42 PM12/7/03
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> Do they still make an alarm with a built in dialer. I would be
> interested in upgrading if so. The dialer you suggested would work as
> a work around, but the alarm would not shut down after the tape ends
> as it does now. I don't want to use a monitor service, as the budget
> is very tight.

Here's a link to a more comprehensive list of USP products.
http://www.unitedsecurity.com/more_dialers.htm

At one time they had a unit with a timed siren output. All-in-one type
alarms are not favored by most in the trade because they're fairly easy to
defeat. If your system already has a timed siren output it might be
preferable to wire in a voice / pager dialer instead of the existing tape
dialer. If you don't have a control unit, those are available and prices
range from significantly less than a hundred to several hundred dollars.

Inexpensive siren timers are also available.

C.G. Learn

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Dec 8, 2003, 1:36:25 PM12/8/03
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"Robert L. Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> At one time they had a unit with a timed siren output. All-in-one
> type alarms are not favored by most in the trade because they're
> fairly easy to defeat. If your system already has a timed siren
> output it might be preferable to wire in a voice / pager dialer
> instead of the existing tape dialer. If you don't have a control
> unit, those are available and prices range from significantly less
> than a hundred to several hundred dollars.
>
>

Thanks, I marked the site to look over later. I am starting to feel like I
have no choice but to be monitored.

C.G. Learn

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Dec 8, 2003, 1:38:57 PM12/8/03
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"Carl" <Ca...@frontiernet.net> wrote in
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I thought it was just a few years agi I had a new tape made, but looking
back, it's been a good 13 to 14 years. I guess it's true that time flies.
Thanks for the info, and help. I guess I will resign myself to get a new
unit and have it monitered, but I sure did not want to go that route.

Thanks to everyone that replied to my orig message

Robert L. Bass

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Dec 8, 2003, 4:23:34 PM12/8/03
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> Thanks, I marked the site to look over later. I am
> starting to feel like I have no choice but to be
> monitored.

Not really. If you don't mind fiddling with it you can buy almost any
professional alarm gear you want online and install it yourself. I have an
extensive FAQ which teaches how to do this sort of stuff. It's not rocket
science. Anyone with a modicum of tool skills and a little patience can do
it.

If you *want* monitoring, by all means have a system monitored. You'll need
to upgrade to do so though. IMO monitoring is often a good thing. If it's
done right and the installation is proper it can be very useful, especially
where fire and carbon-monoxide detection are installed. It's not mandatory
though.

You have to decide for yourself what is appropriate for your home and what
will be effective in your location. If the PD is 10 miles away and you're
in a rural neighborhood, burglar alarm monitoring will be less useful than
if you have a town house in an area where police cruisers are only a few
minutes away. Fire monitoring is *always* worth considering, not so much
because it saves lives (good detectors usually do that well enough), but
because it can save your home if a fire starts while you're out. Just a few
things to consider...

If you are interested in a DIY solution, feel free to call or browse my
website. I'd be happy to try to assist.

Frank Olson

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Dec 8, 2003, 11:40:36 PM12/8/03
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"C.G. Learn" <NoS...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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I take it this means that Mike's refused to help you. The "big paluka".
Have you tried Jim Rojas at http://www.tech-man.com?

Frank


C.G. Learn

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Dec 13, 2003, 5:52:14 PM12/13/03
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"Frank Olson" <Use-the-e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in
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> I take it this means that Mike's refused to help you. The "big paluka".
> Have you tried Jim Rojas at http://www.tech-man.com?
>
>

Not yet, but I will be sure to check it out now...thanks

C.G. Learn

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Dec 13, 2003, 5:53:47 PM12/13/03
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"Robert L. Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in news:tv-
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> If you are interested in a DIY solution, feel free to call or browse my
> website. I'd be happy to try to assist.
>

Thanks, I will swing by and check it out, however I would really like to
just get a tape recorded and be don with it. Thanks for the response.

usmc...@gmail.com

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Aug 8, 2016, 10:03:59 PM8/8/16
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I have a tape dialer recorder for the tape dialers.
Here's my contact info
Tony Cueto
305-200-4627
usmc...@gmail.com

usmc...@gmail.com

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Aug 8, 2016, 10:08:18 PM8/8/16
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I will make you a tape.
Contact: 305-200-4627

usmc...@gmail.com

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Aug 8, 2016, 10:17:07 PM8/8/16
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Or you can have a new tape made by me..

usmc...@gmail.com

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Aug 8, 2016, 10:25:55 PM8/8/16
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Yes you do have many options

ABLE1

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Aug 9, 2016, 8:05:00 AM8/9/16
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SAY WHAT??
I must be getting old but was this a post from the 1960's or 1970's??

No, that is not possible there was no usenet posting from that time frame.

Am I being pulled into a time warp??

This is gonna hurt!!




Rocky T. Squirrel

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Aug 9, 2016, 9:54:48 AM8/9/16
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hehe, I got a Adcor NW-422 recorder somewhere maybe even a Ademco
612 recorder...

RTS

Jim

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Aug 9, 2016, 1:35:57 PM8/9/16
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On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:54:48 AM UTC-4, Rocky T. Squirrel wrote:
> On 8/9/2016 7:04 AM, ABLE1 wrote:
> > On 8/8/2016 10:03 PM, usmc...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I have a tape dialer recorder for the tape dialers.
> >> Here's my contact info
> >> Tony Cueto
> >> 305-200-4627
> >> usmc6900@> >>
> >
> >
> > SAY WHAT??
> > I must be getting old but was this a post from the 1960's or 1970's??
> >
> > No, that is not possible there was no usenet posting from that time frame.
> >
> > Am I being pulled into a time warp??
> >
> > This is gonna hurt!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> hehe, I got a Adcor NW-422 recorder somewhere maybe even a Ademco
> 612 recorder...
>
> RTS

I have a candle lamp owned by my old friend Paul Revere.
(One if by land, two if by sea)

ABLE1

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Aug 9, 2016, 3:39:40 PM8/9/16
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There was a new Middle School being built locally back in 2001. I was
asked by the Maintenance Manager to look over the bid specs for the
security and fire alarm systems before they went out for bid.

It the specs that was provide by the architect it had devoted at least 3
pages to the requirement for an Ademco 612 Tape Dialer to be installed
for central station communication.
Needless to say that that item was removed from the final before bid.

Architect's just rubber stamp what was done before without review and a
little bit of common sense.

Les

Rocky T. Squirrel

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Aug 9, 2016, 4:52:44 PM8/9/16
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same thing Les,
Had a remote building with a sprinkler booster pump for a very large
warehouse and the plans called for a 612 dialer to be installed to
remotely notify the fire dept whenever the pump was running..
Main problem was that there was no telephone lines within a mile of the
building..
RTS

ABLE1

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Aug 9, 2016, 9:07:51 PM8/9/16
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What's the problem?? Just hook up the 612 to a cell phone and run the tape.
It would have been possible with one of the original Telguard Cellular
T1630M.
Piece of cake!!

But then you have to ask yourself................... WHY?????
LOL

Bob La Londe

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Aug 12, 2016, 12:04:38 PM8/12/16
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"Rocky T. Squirrel" <gafa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh, come on now. Only 25 years ago ( or 26 ) I figured out the solution to
getting a tape dialer to call a new number without any of the setup
information. We recorded the touch tones on the audio recording. I was
amazed, but it worked.



Bob La Londe

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Aug 12, 2016, 12:05:45 PM8/12/16
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"Bob La Londe" <no...@none.com99> wrote in message
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Now that I think for a minute I think it was more like 27 or 28 years ago.



Rocky T. Squirrel

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Aug 12, 2016, 5:36:25 PM8/12/16
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yea, we use to do that with a Radio Shack tone dialer (had the audio
cup on the back) nifty gadget in its day..

RTS
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