ADT Yard Signs
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
selling of ADT yard signs. I have a self-installed system and am using
a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
everyone recognizes ADT). I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
can source these. Please let me know either here or via private email
at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com
Thanks.
Robert L Bass
Try this:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=ADT+Yard+sign
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Bass Home Electronics
941-866-1100
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Crash Gordon
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alarman
> selling of ADT yard signs.
Why do you suppose that is?
> I have a self-installed system and am using
> a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
> everyone recognizes ADT).
Yes, they are recognized far and wide as the some of the cheapest, most
poorly designed and installed residential systems currently available.
>I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
> more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
> can source these.
Source them? SOURCE them? You mean steal them and sell them to you?
> Please let me know either here or via private email
> at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com
Wait. You're a network engineer, right?
> Thanks.
Fuck off.
js
nick markowitz
customers. Might as well hang a sign out to come and rob me because i have
an alarm system becuse im afraid i have something of value to loose. I have
a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his share
of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one house
and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin and
depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed and
designed.
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Crash Gordon
Come on man, does that really make sense to you?
"nick markowitz" <nick-ma...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Stanley Barthfarkle
> customers. Might as well hang a sign out to come and rob me because i have
> an alarm system becuse im afraid i have something of value to loose. I
> have a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his
> share of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one
> house and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin
> and depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed
> and designed.
I prefer to use yard signs & window stickers. I pity the fool who uses signs
but has no system installed, though.
PS- Use spell checker Nick.
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
alarman wrote:
> <briansgoogl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162346618.1...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > Seems as though ADT or Ebay (or both) have put the clamps down on the
> > selling of ADT yard signs.
>
> Why do you suppose that is?
Because they hate capitalism?
> > I have a self-installed system and am using
> > a central station of my choosing, but have one ADT yard sign (because
> > everyone recognizes ADT).
>
> Yes, they are recognized far and wide as the some of the cheapest, most
> poorly designed and installed residential systems currently available.
I don't care, and the low life wetbacks who are breaking and entering
in my neck of the woods don't know this.
> >I'd be interested in purchasing a couple
> > more to place elsewhere on the property, and am looking for anyone who
> > can source these.
>
> Source them? SOURCE them? You mean steal them and sell them to you?
I could steal them myself. They're everywhere. No I mean source them,
jackass.
> > Please let me know either here or via private email
> > at briantf27 (at) yahoo (dot) com
>
> Wait. You're a network engineer, right?
Nope, but you're obviously an idiot.
> > Thanks.
>
> Fuck off.
Blow me.
Bob Worthy
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Sounds like you blew it.
>
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
Bob Worthy wrote:
>
> Sounds like you blew it.
Perhaps, but I had my expectations set very low to begin with.
Bob Worthy
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>
> Bob Worthy wrote:
>
> >
> > Sounds like you blew it.
>
> Perhaps, but I had my expectations set very low to begin with.
Need to learn how to take things with a grain of salt around here. You may
have heard me say many times, it is just kicks and giggles for me with some
of these folks. Pick out what you need and either have fun or ignore the
rest.
>
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
nick markowitz wrote:
> I have
> a customer who is a councelor at local prison and has interviewed his share
> of burglars and they all tell him when they see an alarm sign on one house
> and not the other that the sign usuually is a target for a breakin and
> depending on the sign burglars already know how a system is installed and
> designed.
That follows the EXACT opposite pattern from almost all the breakins in
my neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods, and frankly isn't
intuitive. Most breakins are quick smash and grab jobs... And here in
California, it's the illegals that our legislature coddles who are the
perpetrators. These aren't tech savvy criminals. They want to get in,
grab stuff of value that can be pawned off, and get out. First they
pick the neighborhood (affluent areas), and then pick the easy targets
within the neighborhood. The houses with signs (with or without
systems) are not getting hit.
The *one* story I've heard that hasn't fit this mold were a pair of
idiots who thought they knew the police reponse time, and could get in
and out of alarmed houses fast enough. They didn't count on a neighbor
hearing the alarm and subduing them with a couple Taser guns until the
police arrived.
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
Yep. And when it ceases to be fun, my replies usually stop. :)
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
Crash Gordon wrote:
> What's your address? I'll have ADT's attorneys deliver one special.
>
Hahaha. Right. I can understand ADT taking exception to EBay sellers
who are suggesting the use of the signs without buying an alarm
system... But what I do with a sign on my private property that I
obtained legally is beyond their concern and control.
Bob Worthy
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Better that and return when you want rather than trying to return to face
the reminder of your comments. People here can dig up more stuff, regardless
of how old it is....and will quickly remind you of it. Catch ya in the
future if you decide to face the heat. ;o]
>
alarman
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:-)
js
Crash Gordon
My lawnsigns are my property and covered by my tradename (similar to
copyright protection), if you don't buy a system from me you can't get a
sign "legally", if you stole it from someone else's lawn...that ain't legal
either.
ADT does not sell lawnsigns so you don't own it legally.
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Steve
"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
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> How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally" without buying an alarm from ADT?
> My lawnsigns are my property and covered by my tradename (similar to
> copyright protection), if you don't buy a system from me you can't get a
> sign "legally", if you stole it from someone else's lawn...that ain't
> legal
> either.
>
> ADT does not sell lawnsigns so you don't own it legally.
There are legal doctrines involving the abandonment of property that would
come into play here at some point. That also applies to leased systems left
in houses.
Personally yard signs make good targets/target holders
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
Crash Gordon wrote:
> How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally" without buying an alarm from ADT?
> My lawnsigns are my property and covered by my tradename (similar to
> copyright protection), if you don't buy a system from me you can't get a
> sign "legally", if you stole it from someone else's lawn...that ain't legal
> either.
>
> ADT does not sell lawnsigns so you don't own it legally.
I guess when a law is enacted which says "Purchasing ADT lawn signs is
forbidden by law" I'd take care not to do so. Dealers who sell ADT
lawnsigns as accessories might be frowned upon by ADT, but even that is
NOT illegal. In the case of EBay, I'm sure the guys who are currently
selling ADT signs with the logo intentionally distorted in pictures
received a nice pissy letter from ADT lawyers who had their panties in
a bunch over the suggestion of using signs without buying an alarm
system and using the ADT trademark to do so. But, believe it or not,
the act of buying an ADT lawn sign does not constitute trademark
infringement. Hell, ADT should love the free advertising I am
providing, if anything.
Robert L Bass
> without buying an alarm from ADT? My
That depends on what ADT may have done. If they left the sigs there after the client stopped dealing with them the signs are
abandoned. Considering they rarely even collect leased alarm systems, I doubt they're about to go around collecting old lawn signs.
Besaides, they don't put them up as a deterrent to theft. They're advertising for the alarm company.
If ADT labels the sigs as company property and makes a reasonable effort to collect them at the expiration of the contract, then ADT
has the right to their return. However, if ADT abandons them they become the property of the homeowner and he can do whatever he
wants with them.
> and covered by my tradename (similar to
> copyright protection...
Not really. The material printed on them is covered under trademark and copyright laws but not the physical signs themselves. It's
more a book which you write. If someone in lawful possession of the book wants to sell it on eBay he has every right to do so. He
just copy and can't publish the book.
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
Robert L Bass wrote:
> > How did you obtain an ADT sign "legally"
> > without buying an alarm from ADT? My
> > lawnsigns are my property...
>
> That depends on what ADT may have done. If they left the sigs there after the client stopped dealing with them the signs are
> abandoned. Considering they rarely even collect leased alarm systems, I doubt they're about to go around collecting old lawn signs.
> Besaides, they don't put them up as a deterrent to theft. They're advertising for the alarm company.
>
> If ADT labels the sigs as company property and makes a reasonable effort to collect them at the expiration of the contract, then ADT
> has the right to their return. However, if ADT abandons them they become the property of the homeowner and he can do whatever he
> wants with them.
>
> > and covered by my tradename (similar to
> > copyright protection...
>
> Not really. The material printed on them is covered under trademark and copyright laws but not the physical signs themselves. It's
> more a book which you write. If someone in lawful possession of the book wants to sell it on eBay he has every right to do so. He
> just copy and can't publish the book.
>
For all the flack you get around here, Bass, it appears as though you
do know what you're talking about.... At least sometimes. ;)
Robert L Bass
> Bass, it appears as though you do
> know what you're talking about.... At
> least sometimes. ;)
Once in a while. :^)
nick markowitz
he violated nearly 400 homes with systems he only chose homes with systems.
he never got caught doing a burglary he beat every system he went against
except for a couple that went off and he left with out getting caught he
finnaly got caught fencing the goods.
and he is just a hand full I have heard from .
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Frank Olson
> For all the flack you get around here, Bass, it appears as though you
> do know what you're talking about.... At least sometimes. ;)
>
He's been workin' on (and dodging) "legal angles" for most of his career.
Mark Leuck
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>
> For all the flack you get around here, Bass, it appears as though you
> do know what you're talking about.... At least sometimes. ;)
A broken clock is correct twice a day
Mark Leuck
> This wanst just any burglar They called him the snake.Wille Carter
> he violated nearly 400 homes with systems he only chose homes with
systems.
> he never got caught doing a burglary he beat every system he went against
> except for a couple that went off and he left with out getting caught he
> finnaly got caught fencing the goods.
> and he is just a hand full I have heard from .
There is tho far more evidence burglars stay away from houses with security
signs than your example here. There's always a few that buck the trend
Crash Gordon
their truck that would be tradename infringement (and I DID win a lawsuit
based upon this)...i wonder how it would be different?
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Crash Gordon
It defies logic that a burglar would burgle a house with a sign over one
without.
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G. Morgan
<webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
>He's an amateur...and he still got caught.
>It defies logic that a burglar would burgle a house with a sign over one
>without.
He sounds like a pro to me with 400 burglaries.
--
-Graham
(remove the double e's to email)
Frank Olson
> A broken clock is correct twice a day
Not if it's LCD... :-)
Robert L Bass
> and put it on the side of their truck that would
> be tradename infringement (and I DID win a
> lawsuit based upon this)...i wonder how it would
> be different?
Easy. If they steal *your* sign it's theft. If they use it to pretend they're you, that's impersonation. If they try to attract
business pretending to be you, that's a trade name infringement. But if you abandon the sign itself (not the copyright) the person
you left it with can dispose of it lawfully. Once you abandon property you can't come back later and claim ownership rights to it.
There is a significant difference between copyright or trademark rights and chattel property rights.
Let's go back to the analogy of a written work. Suppose you write a book on the "Life and Times of Jiminex". It's only about six
pages long but you wrote it and you're proud of it. You publish it at significant expense down at Office Depot's copy center.
After being thrown out for printing profane language, you visit Bob Lalonde and go for a ride on his brand new Vespa. While there
you lend Bob a copy of the book. Bob reads it in five minutes, snickers a few times and tosses it on a heap of rotting copies of
Easy Rider magazine in the corner of his garage. Three years go by and you make no effort to retrieve the book. You visit Bob a
few times during that time and see the book staring balefully at you from the heap but you don't ask for it back.
One night Bob passes the book on to Stevens, who he ran into at a strip bar around the corner from the ISC show. Stevens has been
waiting for years to get his hands on a photo of the subject for his website. The following week Bob L offends you in the newsgroup
so you demand your book back. Unbeknownst to Bob, Stevens has already scanned the picture of Jiminex from the front page and posted
it on his website.
You can't sue Bob because you gave him the book. Even though it was originally a loan, by failing to retrieve it for several years
you effectively abandoned it. He doesn't have to give it back and he can lawfully give it away.
You later discover that Stevens has scanned your prized photo of Jiminex in his rowboat, crossing the Arthur Kill between Staten
Island, NY and Elizabeth, NJ, cursing and flailing his arms at some seagull which has just proven itself incredibly accurate at
aerial targeting and... well, never mind that for now.
You can sue Stevens for all he's worth. He has infringed your copyright. Jiminex, in turn, files a lawsuit against you for failing
to curse me out in the book. Graham calls and offers to testify in your favor if only you'll pleeeease be his friend.
I hope this explanation helps.
G. Morgan
<rober...@comcast.net> wrote:
>You can sue Stevens for all he's worth. He has infringed your copyright. Jiminex, in turn, files a lawsuit against you for failing
>to curse me out in the book. Graham calls and offers to testify in your favor if only you'll pleeeease be his friend.
You really should not be the one doling out legal advice, especially
concerning copyright infringements.
Mark Leuck
"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> Not sure about that. If someone stole my sign and put it on the side of
> their truck that would be tradename infringement (and I DID win a lawsuit
> based upon this)...i wonder how it would be different?
No if they started a business with your company name and logo then yes but
just putting your sign on a truck won't do it
briansgoogl...@yahoo.com
Exactly. A name on a truck won't do it, nor will a sign in my yard.
It's not illegal just because ADT doesn't approve (or you don't approve
as the case may be).
Crash Gordon
didn't actually have any licenses or a legal business.
This is interesting though. So you guys are kinda saying that if I bought a
used ADT service truck with their signage on it, and drove it around not
intending to do any alarm business that ADT or lets say just parked it on my
driveway - would have no case? (tangent from OP...just posing another ?)
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Robert L Bass
> saying that if I bought a used ADT service truck
> with their signage on it, and drove it around not
> intending to do any alarm business that ADT or
> lets say just parked it on my driveway - would have
> no case? (tangent from OP...just posing another ?)
Correct.
Crash Gordon
to work now.
:-)
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Bob Worthy
"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> Well, yes..they were representing themselves as being me/my company. They
> didn't actually have any licenses or a legal business.
>
> This is interesting though. So you guys are kinda saying that if I bought
a
> used ADT service truck with their signage on it, and drove it around not
> intending to do any alarm business that ADT or lets say just parked it on
my
> driveway - would have no case? (tangent from OP...just posing another ?)
In your case it may have been a different issue than what is being talked
about here. It is the action of the individual that "could" constitute some
sort of illegal act. If he was an unlicensed person, driving an ADT truck
and not employeed by ADT, out there selling, installing, servicing alarms as
an ADT whatever, there may be some sort of fraud and deception thing going
on, not to mention any of the unlicensed contractor penaltys and who knows
what else. But simply having possession of a sign, or a truck etc. with a
logo on it is not illegal unless it was stolen. Even with that, the crime
would be possession of stolen property and not anything to do with the logo.
Stealing an ADT truck would carry no heavier penalty than stealing RLB's
Camary. You have to forget what seems to be right, ethical, common sense and
even what may have been law last year. None of that comes into play when
attorneys are involved.
Roland Moore
even what may have been law last year. None of that comes into play when
attorneys are involved.
Truer words were never spoken.
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RobertM
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>
Many years ago I worked for a company that manufactured police badges
and notary seals. One day someone came in to order a badge and something
didn't quite seem right. Usually orders came from the city on a P.O. This
man wanted to pay cash and didn't have a purchase order. So I phoned the
police and asked about the legal aspect of someone who might not be a law
officer buying a police badge. The police said there is no law against
buying a badge as long as the owner of the badge doesn't impersonate a
police officer. I don't know for what other purpose someone would buy a
badge but it was legal for the customer to buy it and legal for us to sell
it to him. The law may vary by state.
Bob
Steve
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There are websites that cater to police badges and miniatures. Some
consider them collectables. IIRC, there has been some restriction on them
as of late.
Steve
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Say what you will, it was quite funny........
Bob Worthy
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>
>
> There are websites that cater to police badges and miniatures. Some
> consider them collectables. IIRC, there has been some restriction on them
> as of late.
Yep. I think Texas is one that has some heavy restrictions on their Texas
Star, and that goes way back.
>
>
Mark Leuck
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Keep in mind that I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express
last night
Mark Leuck
"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> Well, yes..they were representing themselves as being me/my company. They
> didn't actually have any licenses or a legal business.
>
> This is interesting though. So you guys are kinda saying that if I bought
a
> used ADT service truck with their signage on it, and drove it around not
> intending to do any alarm business that ADT or lets say just parked it on
my
> driveway - would have no case? (tangent from OP...just posing another ?)
I wouldn't think so but again I'm no lawyer
Mark Leuck
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>
> would be possession of stolen property and not anything to do with the
logo.
> Stealing an ADT truck would carry no heavier penalty than stealing RLB's
> Camary.
That depends if you have a non-functional firearm
Mark Leuck
Try putting something up with the word "Kentucky" in it
alarman
> Keep in mind that I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express
> last night
Nonsense. Monitronics wouldn't spring for a Holiday Express.
js
Nomen Nescio
>This is interesting though. So you guys are kinda saying that if I bought a
>used ADT service truck with their signage on it, and drove it around not
>intending to do any alarm business that ADT or lets say just parked it on my
>driveway - would have no case?
Yes, especially since ADT had the opportunity to remove the signs before
selling you the truck and chose not to do so.
Trademark law is primarily about identifying the source of goods and
services. In the example you gave, where someone is using the name of your
business without permission, to try and make some money, it's a trademark
violation because the public will probably be confused into thinking they
are buying from you.
Big companies like ADT are so well known, their trademarks are known as
"famous marks," and they get extra protection under the law. For example,
you can't open a hamburger stand and call it McDonald's, even if your name
is McDonald. But if your ADT truck is just parked in the driveway, it's
not being used in commerce, and the public is not being confused.
Where ADT may have a point on the yard signs is this: suppose some DIYer
puts in his own piece of shit system, puts up some ADT yard signs to make
it look official...and the system starts causing lots of false alarms.
People see the yard signs and blame ADT, and maybe they don't buy an ADT
system because of it. The public is confused as to the source of the alarm
system.
- badenov
Jim
Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> Yes, especially since ADT had the opportunity to remove the signs before
> selling you the truck and chose not to do so.
>
> Trademark law is primarily about identifying the source of goods and
> services. In the example you gave, where someone is using the name of your
> business without permission, to try and make some money, it's a trademark
> violation because the public will probably be confused into thinking they
> are buying from you.
>
> Big companies like ADT are so well known, their trademarks are known as
> "famous marks," and they get extra protection under the law. For example,
> you can't open a hamburger stand and call it McDonald's, even if your name
> is McDonald. But if your ADT truck is just parked in the driveway, it's
> not being used in commerce, and the public is not being confused.
>
> Where ADT may have a point on the yard signs is this: suppose some DIYer
> puts in his own piece of shit system, puts up some ADT yard signs to make
> it look official...and the system starts causing lots of false alarms.
> People see the yard signs and blame ADT, and maybe they don't buy an ADT
> system because of it.
> The public is confused as to the source of the alarm
> system.
Not really.
I'd guess that it doesn't really matter which one installed the system.
The results would be the same.
>
> - badenov
Bob Worthy
Can't, there are no restrictions on fried chicken. If there were, obesity in
the US won't be a problem.
>
>
Mark Leuck
That affects much more than fried chicken tho
Crash Gordon
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Robert L Bass
Leuck got drunk?
Mark Leuck
"Robert L Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > That's what I was getting at; dilution of a famous mark.
>
> Leuck got drunk?
Leuck doesn't drink, Leuck also doesn't threaten relatives with supposed
non-working firearms
Robert L Bass
> relatives with supposed non-working firearms
Well, that's what you claim.
G. Morgan
Yeah, and you have no reason to say otherwise.
Bob Worthy
Yep, I just shed thirty pounds and have another 20 to go. Some what of an
expert on that problem. I could eat with the best of them, except those hot
dog eating contests. Those are sick! :o]
>
>
Mark Leuck
>
> > > the US won't be a problem.
> >
> > That affects much more than fried chicken tho
>
> Yep, I just shed thirty pounds and have another 20 to go. Some what of an
> expert on that problem. I could eat with the best of them, except those
hot
> dog eating contests. Those are sick! :o]
I know where your coming from, I lost 90 2 years ago
Bob Worthy
Wow! Good job. I know the older you get the harder it is. But, if you wanta
get older........
Crash Gordon
back but still feel great
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Bob Worthy
"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> I lost 86 two/three years ago, but not completely by choice....gained 40
> back but still feel great
Damn, now I feel like a late comer in this game. Between you and Mark, those
are some big numbers. Bob L. would like to posts those in one of his fishing
tourneys.
Robert L Bass
> by choice....gained 40 back but still feel great
I lost 50 pounds when I moved to Florida. I gained half of it back over a few years, then lost 30 pounds earlier this year. It's
always a struggle. :^)
Mark Leuck
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Crash Gordon
a year...when taste came back I pigged out.
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caste...@gmail.com
E DAWSON
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> can sell them to you legally.
3-year contract for each one of them...
ADT- The only company that thieves trust. They can be assured that 50% of
the households who have them, only have a sign. The next 25% of them are not
monitored anymore because of their high pricing. That leaves the remaining
25% who are still monitored with the minimal system of 2-3 doors and the
almighty motion that will cover all of the rest of their household... not!
Jim
Now you gave it away and now everybody knows.
E DAWSON
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Doing The Wrong Thing disorder. Also been diagnosed with plain old ADT
syndrone...Acute Developmental Trauma disorder...that was after being
exposed to the ADT salesforce as an installation manager for them for 7
months. I've never been the same since. I can't talk about this anymore, it
just hurts too much.
Jim
> > OH darn you anyway.
> >
> > Now you gave it away and now everybody knows.
>
> I'm sorry. Just couldn't help myself. I suffer from ADTWT syndrone...Always
> Doing The Wrong Thing disorder. Also been diagnosed with plain old ADT
> syndrone...Acute Developmental Trauma disorder...that was after being
> exposed to the ADT salesforce as an installation manager for them for 7
> months. I've never been the same since. I can't talk about this anymore, it
> just hurts too much.
Just try this
Whenever you see their lawn signs
System Installed by
ADT
Just think
System installed by
Another Dumb Technician