Notifier AFB-200
jewel...@yahoo.com
voltage work (Burg & Fire). When installing fire we work with
Fire-Lite mainly. On a take over account, I can across this Notifier
AFB-200, which looks like their version of Fire-Lite's 9600 panel.
Like the Fire-Lite panel, this panel has a level 1 and level 2 password
(defualted to 00000 & 11111, respectively) but the installer changed
the passwords so that we cant even update the time settings.
On a 9600, tech support will give a procedure to return the passwords
to default (they even include the procedure in the manual, now).
However, Notifier is not as willing to speak to you unless you are an
"authorized" distributer. I hate that ^%$#! Whose friggen panel is
it??!! An your telling me the owner can't authorize me to work on HIS
panel. Companies/engineers can be such idiots.
<gets down off soapbox>
Does anyone know how to return the passwords to defualt on this panel.
Any help would be much appreciated
Frank Olson
<jewel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Fire alarms are a whole different issue from security systems. In BC and
Alberta (the two provinces I've worked in), the manufacturer (or their
authorized representative) does the verification on the installation which
includes programming the system to meet the specifications provided by the
Engineer. The master programming password is intentionally changed from
default to prevent anyone but the individual company responsible for the
verification from accessing the system and changing the parameters away from
the programmed ones approved and sealed by the Eng.
Having said all this, please email me at feolson at shaw dot ca (no spaces).
I'll have to verify where you are and who your local Notifier rep is before
I can help you (I don't want to "step on any toes", if you catch my drift).
Frank Olson
> voltage work (Burg & Fire). When installing fire we work with
> Fire-Lite mainly. On a take over account, I can across this Notifier
> AFB-200, which looks like their version of Fire-Lite's 9600 panel.
That's "AFP-200", by the way...
Robert L Bass
> --- snip drivel ---
Does anyone else notice that almost every "tech support" answer from Olson
gives no tech support at all -- just a bunch of nonsense that the OP
probably already knows, or a few trite questions about the particulars --
but NO useful answers?
Mark Leuck
"Robert L Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Only thing I noticed is Frank didn't help someone default a FIRE panel, it
would be stupid to do otherwise
Robert L Bass
>>> --- snip drivel ---
>>
>> Does anyone else notice that almost every "tech
>> support" answer from Olson gives no tech support
>> at all -- just a bunch of nonsense that the OP
>> probably already knows, or a few trite questions
>> about the particulars -- but NO useful answers?
>
> Only thing I noticed is Frank didn't help someone
The OP didn't ask how to default a FIRE panel. He asked if anyone knows how
to return the PASSWORDS to default on the panel. Is there some reason you
think it's necessary to yell FIRE when discussing the panel?
> it would be stupid to do otherwise
Are you saying that Olson isn't stupid? Do you have proof that he's not
stupid? Have you seen one shred of evidence to support the idea that he's
not stupid? Do you believe he snap-rolled a 737? Wait, that would make you
stupid too. You can plead the fifth (after Cracker finishes drinking it).
Mark Leuck
Only thing I'm curious about is if you know the name of the company he works
for, if you can't answer that then I think we all know who is really stupid
Crash Gordon®
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message news:5aydndPwR__...@comcast.com...
Mark Leuck
"Crash Gordon®" <webm...@siriussystems.INVALID> wrote in message
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curious: why is Franks employer important?
Robert has made many references to Frank being a "counter clerk" and in
order to know that he'd have to know where Frank works, I don't think he
does and therefore doesn't know what Frank does
joe
therefore proving once again that bass is a serial liar
Crash Gordon®
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message news:e9SdnRUnD_3...@comcast.com...
Doug L
stations, distributors and suppliers looking for information on Frank.
Doug L
--
"Crash Gordon®" <webm...@siriussystems.INVALID> wrote in message
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Jim
Yes, we all know that respect for installation companies is not
important to you. We all know that you'd give proprietary information
to anyone who asked for it, if you could make a $.05 sale. Yes, yes,
yes, .... we know that you're a scumbag and have no loyalties, or
concerns for anyone but yourself. And we certainly know that you only
provide information here so that you can make money and that you use
the expertise of others here for the same purpose. It's understandable
how you'd not recognize Franks use of discretion, since you don't have
any.
Not only are you fat in person, but you also have the social manners of
a pig.
Jim
Crash Gordon® wrote:
> curious: why is Franks employer important?
>
>
Because one of Bass's self admitted favorite things to do to someone
who disagrees with him, is to locate his employer or suppliers and make
up stories to get his detractors in trouble.
I'm surprised you haven't seen reference to the numerous times he's
done this to people. A number of years ago, after Bass had stolen some
information from someone in an aviation group, everyone in the group
chasitised him. He then tried to "ransome" his way back into acceptance
by giving back the information. But he'd already shown his true colors.
He subsequently reported some one in the group to FAA or some relevant
flying organization, as flying while intoxicated, with no proof, just
to get even with him. He's done similar things to others too. If he
could find out where Frank was employed, he'd do his best to attempt to
destroy his reputation. Bass has repeatedly stated that he's searched
and made telephone calls to various people in Franks area, attempting
to find information about him. Frank, being at least as cautious as I
am, fortunately has concealed his identity sufficiently to avoid Bass's
inquiries. Thus Bass assumes that Frank is merely a "counter clerk".
Stick around Crash. Every day you'll gain a little more insight to the
manevolence of our infamous Mr. Fat Ass Bass
Mark Leuck
"Crash Gordon®" <webm...@siriussystems.INVALID> wrote in message
ah i see.
And true to form his silence provides all the answers
Crash Gordon
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Frank Olson
>>>> Fire alarms are a whole different issue...
>>>> --- snip drivel ---
>>>
>>> Does anyone else notice that almost every "tech
>>> support" answer from Olson gives no tech support
>>> at all -- just a bunch of nonsense that the OP
>>> probably already knows, or a few trite questions
>>> about the particulars -- but NO useful answers?
>>
>> Only thing I noticed is Frank didn't help someone
>> default a FIRE panel...
>
> The OP didn't ask how to default a FIRE panel. He asked if anyone knows
> how to return the PASSWORDS to default on the panel. Is there some reason
> you think it's necessary to yell FIRE when discussing the panel?
Since you don't know what you're talking about (again), I'll try and clarify
things (for your benefit). In order to restore the level one or level two
passwords, he's going to need the level 3 password (which also happens to be
the main programming one). Defaulting the passwords to the AFP-200 panel
*will* enable the OP to change the programming parameters of the system. He
can do this in one of two ways. He can use a laptop and hook it into the
RS485 port or he can program the system through the onboard keypad. If the
system has a DACT and it happens to be the one that's fully compatible with
the AFP-200, he can also call in from a remote location and use the Notifier
software to program the panel.
I don't give out the means to do this on *any* fire alarm panel unless I
know whom I'm dealing with and they can verify several things. So far, the
OP hasn't contacted me and perhaps he's leary of providing personal and
corporate information to "just anyone" he happens to meet on Usenet. I
quite frankly don't blame him. He is, after all, participating in a
Newsgroup with an individual (one Robert L. Bass) who has without hesitation
posted pertinent personal information in this forum, contacted the employers
of several individuals in this Newsgroup (with whom he has ongoing disputes)
to file grossly exaggerated claims of unprofessional conduct and outright
lies, and tried to find out information about me (I believe for no other
reason than to take his Newsgroup attacks to the "next level" -real life!!).
>
>> it would be stupid to do otherwise
>
> Are you saying that Olson isn't stupid? Do you have proof that he's not
> stupid? Have you seen one shred of evidence to support the idea that he's
> not stupid? Do you believe he snap-rolled a 737? Wait, that would make
> you stupid too. You can plead the fifth (after Cracker finishes drinking
> it).
Uh-huh... and once again you play the aviation card... Pity you've been
"trumped" so many times it's become a "non issue" with everyone but you...
Did you finally get ahold of Elk Technical Support?? Did they tell you all
about the M1XEP??
Mark Leuck
"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
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> He's on his way to Brazil again
He had plenty of time to respond this past week but didn't, you will find
when he gets called on things he goes silent
And I don't know what newsgroup reader you used to use but now that you have
the XP machine I can respond properly since it now shows the > stuff on your
text. What were you using before?
Bob Worthy
>
> "Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote in message
> news:PcWEe.698$1i6....@news.uswest.net...
> > He's on his way to Brazil again
>
> He had plenty of time to respond this past week but didn't, you will find
> when he gets called on things he goes silent
He hasn't responded to anything I've post since I called him out on some
stuff about six weeks or so ago and I've even been baiting him. I guess I am
on his **ignore list**. Maybe that way he feels he doesn't have to respond
to the questions I put to him. As far as Frank's employer goes, Bass is just
fishing hoping to pick up on a glue, since he doesn't have one.
Crash Gordon
Mozilla once in a while on the old machine.
Maybe I had > turned off
"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Robert L Bass
>> how to return the PASSWORDS to default on the panel. Is there some reason
>> you think it's necessary to yell FIRE when discussing the panel?
>
> *will* enable the OP to change the programming
You seem to confuse allowing saomeone to make programming changes
with defaulting the panel. Perhaps if ytou actually installed
fire alarm systems you would have known that.
> I don't give out the means to do this on *any* fire alarm panel...
Unless you can figure out how to do so by reading the manual.
> So far, the OP hasn't contacted me...
What a surprise!
> I quite frankly don't...
You don't do anything frankly.
>> it would be stupid to do otherwise
>>
>> Are you saying that Olson isn't stupid? Do you have proof that he's not
>> stupid? Have you seen one shred of evidence to support the idea that he's
>> not stupid? Do you believe he snap-rolled a 737? Wait, that would make
>> you stupid too. You can plead the fifth (after Cracker finishes drinking
>> it).
>
> Uh-huh... and once again you play the aviation card...
You're the moron who claimed to have snap-rolled a 737. You
don't get to tell such bullshit stories and then pretend you're
not a liar.
> Did you finally get ahold of Elk Technical Support??
Prior to replying to the original question, yes.
> Did they tell you all about the M1XEP??
They had a good laugh at your posts.
Frank Olson
"Robert L Bass" <sa...@bassburglaralarms.com> wrote in message
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>>> The OP didn't ask how to default a FIRE panel. He asked if anyone knows
>>> how to return the PASSWORDS to default on the panel. Is there some
>>> reason
>>> you think it's necessary to yell FIRE when discussing the panel?
>>
>> Defaulting the passwords to the AFP-200 panel
>> *will* enable the OP to change the programming
>> parameters of the system...
>
> You seem to confuse allowing saomeone to make programming changes
> with defaulting the panel. Perhaps if ytou actually installed
> fire alarm systems you would have known that.
Nope... I'm not "confused" at all... I simply won't give someone I don't
know (or can't verify) the means to enter installer level programming on a
functioning fire alarm panel. Since you've obviously the one that's never
installed a fire alarm system I only wanted to educate you to the facts...
>
>> I don't give out the means to do this on *any* fire alarm panel...
>
> Unless you can figure out how to do so by reading the manual.
Heh... You can't "default" the password on an AFP-200 by "reading the
manual". There's no means to do that. There is, however, a way of
"cracking" the existing code that involves some basic arithmetic (and since
you still insist that "15" equals "28" the even this would be well beyond
your present capabilities).
<snip>
> You're the moron who claimed to have snap-rolled a 737.
Nope... The only aircraft which *I* personally have "snap-rolled" consist
of a Cessna 150 "Aerobat", a Decathalon, and a Pitts Special...
> You
> don't get to tell such bullshit stories and then pretend you're
> not a liar.
Heh... And the "proof" of this is what, Mr. "Aviation Expert"?? More
moronic explanations involving mis-spelled words like "aeleron", or terms
like "negative lift", and "angle of attack of the wind"?? You *say* you had
a student pilot permit at one time... It's quite obvious to me that you
flunked ground school... Face it, Robert:
1. Cessna *still* doesn't make a "152 tail-dragger" (or even a "150 tail
dragger").
2. An aircraft is perfectly capable of flying upside down *and* maintaining
a constant altitude (as long as it's equipped with things like inverted oil
and fuel systems and the pilot is well-strapped in).
3. Convair (in the '50's) made a number of different aircraft types most of
which didn't hold a candle to the performance demonstrated by the Avro
Arrow.
5. The Cessna 182 has fixed tricycle undercarriage and only when you put an
"RG" designation on it does it mean the gear is retractable.
6. The Cessna 150 was *not* the predecessor of the "182". The "180" was.
7. You can exceed a 60 degree bank angle in all modern passenger jets and
still affect full recovery to level flight.
8. You can punch "full left rudder" in any modern passenger jet. You will
not get full deflection of the rudder (or any control surface for that
matter) "at flight speeds" as the flight control system employs limiters
that prohibit large scale movements. These are designed to ensure the
aircraft's structural integrity isn't compromised. I would not expect you
to understand (or even know) this as you've never actually flown "heavy
iron" (and quite obviously have never really conversed with someone that
has).
9. You can successfully roll a Boeing 737-200 with minimal loss of
altitude. I'm a living witness to this fact. I have no doubt that *any* of
Mr. Boeings aircraft can demonstrate a full roll maneuver without any
"hiccups". If you put Bob Hoover at the controls of *any* commercial
transport, I'm certain you'll witness aerobatics the likes of which you've
only ever dreamed of. At Abbotsford one year, I saw him put a Twin
Commander through maneuvers that would make even the designers at Rockwell
cringe.
10. "4" is missing as a courtesy to Mark (who often whines when it's
included in a "list" of this type).
>
>> Did you finally get ahold of Elk Technical Support??
>
> Prior to replying to the original question, yes.
Liar. You got "caught" once again trying to impress people with product
knowledge you don't have, and even now can't make up your mind whether you
have an ELK M1-Gold in your house or a Napco 9600... Ohhh... I forgot...
You have *both*... An ELK in your *office* and a Napco 9600 in your
house... Must get pretty confusing for the wife considering you have a
home-office...
>
>> Did they tell you all about the M1XEP??
>
> They had a good laugh at your posts.
Uh-huh... Who did you talk to at Elk?? And where is it that I work again??
Manny
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
I know this was posted a few months back, but if you still need the code
reply to the message
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Thanks,
Guido
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