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Nomen Nescio

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Sep 29, 2007, 8:52:00 PM9/29/07
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Check it out. A 10 Year Old hacks into a Brinks Security System.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwwbZmBRiI

Videoman In New Jersey


Frank Olson

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Sep 30, 2007, 12:52:37 AM9/30/07
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Like I'm sure Brinks is really worried.

Nick Lawrence

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Sep 30, 2007, 2:14:12 AM9/30/07
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No, this is what they are worried about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oRTqTn89-4&NR=1
and the other scummy things being done by the fake apex alarm out of
provo utah.
More about all this is at the real http:apexalarm.com site.

Nick Lawrence

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Sep 30, 2007, 2:15:26 AM9/30/07
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correction:

> No, this is what they are worried about:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oRTqTn89-4&NR=1
> and the other scummy things being done by the 'fake' apex alarm out of
> provo utah.

> More about all this is at the real http://ApexAlarm.com site.

Nomen Nescio

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Sep 30, 2007, 9:10:04 AM9/30/07
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What Brinks failed to mention is that these so called bad
guys are either former employees or brinks dealers. Brinks
is stupid to think that authorized dealers have any loyalty
towards them at all. It's all about money. Brinks gave them
all the knowledge and tools needed to takeover their systems.

From what I have heard, this is becoming a nationwide issue.
The only way brinks can stop this from happening is to remote
download all systems and take away the manuals and field
programmers each technician now has.

I am no fan of brinks, but they did this to themselves.

Angry Man In Guateng

Mark Leuck

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Sep 30, 2007, 9:13:11 AM9/30/07
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"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
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> Check it out. A 10 Year Old hacks into a Brinks Security System.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwwbZmBRiI
>
> Videoman In New Jersey

Wow, kid learns what red and black wires do, I hardly call that a hack


Anonymous Sender

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Sep 30, 2007, 9:37:30 AM9/30/07
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I am sure it was meant as a joke. It was kind of cute to see
a kid figure out something brinks may consider confidential
information.

Afterall, it's not rocket science. Right RLB?

Pittsburgh Steeler Fan

Crash Gordon

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Sep 30, 2007, 11:40:03 AM9/30/07
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A customer would have to be kinda numb to let a alarm company just show up
at the door un announced...but I can understand how this shit can
happen...'cause it happened to me (another company representing themselves
as us trying to steal my clients).

--
Crash Gordon
-------ouch------

<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>


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BDEBJ

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Sep 30, 2007, 12:11:07 PM9/30/07
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no, you "failed to mention" that you are making shit up.
these are not "former employees" or "dealers"!!!
these guys are from utah, and employ college students
to go door to door, and do this crap, and it's not just
brinks...there are SEVERAL companies having problems
with this ONE company!! and yes, it's becoming a nationwide
problem.

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Anonymous

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Sep 30, 2007, 1:04:52 PM9/30/07
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I have seen customers switched from one provider to another numerous times
within a short time. It turned out that the salespeople were selling the
same accounts to several account buyers at the same time. By the time they
got wind of what was going on, the 2nd & 3rd companies were out lots of
money. This kind of thing still goes on. The only difference is now they
are licensed to do it now. Nothing has changed, except that police officers
and fire fighters have been taken out of the side job market.

Authorized dealers have the best racket. They sell accounts to Monitronics,
ADT, Brinks, etc. After the contract has been completed, they go back and
switch the account back to a friendly competitor, and the friend competitor
does the same thing, or they resell the account to another
unsuspecting buyer, and take the account back yet again.

You can't make a living with $99 systems. Brinks still thinks they can. So
as long as they keep on playing this silly game, dealers will do whatever
they have to just to survive.

Pittburgh Steeler Fan

A customer would have to be kinda numb to let a alarm company just show up
at the door un announced...but I can understand how this shit can
happen...'cause it happened to me (another company representing themselves
as us trying to steal my clients).

-- Crash Gordon -------ouch------ <I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe> "Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message news:4f400843e5bf79c3...@dizum.com... | Check it out. A 10 Year Old hacks into a Brinks Security System. | | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwwbZmBRiI | | Videoman In New Jersey | | | |

Nomen Nescio

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Sep 30, 2007, 1:40:02 PM9/30/07
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I think that is just one case that happened to get local
news attention. He does have a point about the possibility
that other situations may have been switched over by former
Brinks employees or dealers. It's possible. With over
1 million existing Brinks accounts out there, they are ripe
for the taking. Brinks however does the same exact thing.
They takeover Ademco, DSC, and other systems all the time.
They don't swap panels unless it is locked out, or if their
local branch manager insists on the board change out.

Pittsburgh Steeler Fan


no, you "failed to mention" that you are making shit up.
these are not "former employees" or "dealers"!!!
these guys are from utah, and employ college students
to go door to door, and do this crap, and it's not just
brinks...there are SEVERAL companies having problems
with this ONE company!! and yes, it's becoming a nationwide
problem.

"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message

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> > What Brinks failed to mention is that these so called bad
> > guys are either former employees or brinks dealers. Brinks
> > is stupid to think that authorized dealers have any loyalty
> > towards them at all. It's all about money. Brinks gave them
> > all the knowledge and tools needed to takeover their systems.
> >
> > From what I have heard, this is becoming a nationwide issue.
> > The only way brinks can stop this from happening is to remote
> > download all systems and take away the manuals and field
> > programmers each technician now has.
> >
> > I am no fan of brinks, but they did this to themselves.
> >
> > Angry Man In Guateng
> >

BDEBJ

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Sep 30, 2007, 3:12:22 PM9/30/07
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you are wrong....they do not take over other panels.
there is not one panel monitored by brinks that is not
a brinks panel!!! the motherboard and keypad is ALWAYS
switched out...no exceptions.

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George Orwell

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Sep 30, 2007, 3:46:49 PM9/30/07
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The next thing you will be telling us is that Brinks has its own special wire, siren, contacts, motion detector, and let's not forget the patented brinks back up battery.

How do you think that fake Apex alarm company switch over those unsuspecting brinks customers, unless they had the training, tools and know how to do so?

I say that too many brinks dealers spoil the soup. :)

Angry Man In Gauteng.

you are wrong....they do not take over other panels.
there is not one panel monitored by brinks that is not
a brinks panel!!! the motherboard and keypad is ALWAYS
switched out...no exceptions.

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BDEBJ

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Sep 30, 2007, 4:33:04 PM9/30/07
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do some research before you respond!!! apex uses their OWN keypads and
motherboard!!!
they do not take over brinks equipment and brinks does not take over anyone
elses!!!
not too bright are ya?!?!


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Nick Markowitz Jr.

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Sep 30, 2007, 6:24:03 PM9/30/07
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We had that going on here with sevral people one guy ended up in jail on bad
checks of all things.

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Anonymous

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Sep 30, 2007, 7:50:42 PM9/30/07
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Motherboard? Its an alarm system, not a desktop computer you dick head.

Brinks needs to better educate their customers instead of running away after they sign on the dotted line.

Pittsburgh Steeler Fan

Nomen Nescio

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Sep 30, 2007, 8:40:09 PM9/30/07
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I see. So what you are saying is that Brinks actively engages in Tortious Interference of their competitors customers and toss out their equipment? Is that it?

I hope APX takes over every damn brinks account on the planet. But I hope they do it slowly, so I can keep a score chart. Its about time brinks gets whats coming to them.

I saw both sides of the brinks & APX scandal. Brinks cries foul when it hurts their bottom line. Yet the rest of us are suppose to just accept losing one to brinks? HAHAHA

Angry Man In Gauteng


you are wrong....they do not take over other panels.
there is not one panel monitored by brinks that is not
a brinks panel!!! the motherboard and keypad is ALWAYS
switched out...no exceptions.

"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message

news:9328482eb7b064ed...@dizum.com...
> >I think that is just one case that happened to get local
> > news attention. He does have a point about the possibility
> > that other situations may have been switched over by former
> > Brinks employees or dealers. It's possible. With over
> > 1 million existing Brinks accounts out there, they are ripe
> > for the taking. Brinks however does the same exact thing.
> > They takeover Ademco, DSC, and other systems all the time.
> > They don't swap panels unless it is locked out, or if their
> > local branch manager insists on the board change out.
> >
> > Pittsburgh Steeler Fan
> >
> >
> > no, you "failed to mention" that you are making shit up.
> > these are not "former employees" or "dealers"!!!
> > these guys are from utah, and employ college students
> > to go door to door, and do this crap, and it's not just
> > brinks...there are SEVERAL companies having problems
> > with this ONE company!! and yes, it's becoming a nationwide
> > problem.
> >
> >
> >

> > "Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message

> > news:40957a39d5470bf3...@dizum.com...
>>> >> > What Brinks failed to mention is that these so called bad
>>> >> > guys are either former employees or brinks dealers. Brinks
>>> >> > is stupid to think that authorized dealers have any loyalty
>>> >> > towards them at all. It's all about money. Brinks gave them
>>> >> > all the knowledge and tools needed to takeover their systems.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > From what I have heard, this is becoming a nationwide issue.
>>> >> > The only way brinks can stop this from happening is to remote
>>> >> > download all systems and take away the manuals and field
>>> >> > programmers each technician now has.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am no fan of brinks, but they did this to themselves.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Angry Man In Guateng
>>> >> >
> >
> >

Mark Leuck

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Sep 30, 2007, 8:46:25 PM9/30/07
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Apex uses standard Lynx panels with some Vista-15P's

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BDEBJ

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Sep 30, 2007, 9:02:27 PM9/30/07
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yes, motherboard....still not too bright huh??


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BDEBJ

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Sep 30, 2007, 10:23:21 PM9/30/07
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sorry, what i meant is they bring their own stuff to the
install...they don't use the brinks motherboard or keypads
they pull out all of the brinks equipment


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Petem

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Sep 30, 2007, 10:26:51 PM9/30/07
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"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@tx.rr.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
46ffa0e2$0$24253$4c36...@roadrunner.com...

I wonder if the kid will be receive news from the Brinks head office,after
all he proved that the keypad is powered by dc voltage,and that's surely a
trade secret!!! ;-)

BDEBJ

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Sep 30, 2007, 10:28:12 PM9/30/07
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no, dumbass, they pull out the other equipment, install their own
and leave the pulled equipment with the cust.
if you don't know by now that brinks uses proprietary equipment
then you obviously don't have a clue of what you are talking about

you wouldn't "lose one to brinks" if you were not such an idiot!!


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Robert L Bass

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Oct 1, 2007, 12:20:36 AM10/1/07
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> no, you "failed to mention" that you are making shit up. these are
> not "former employees" or "dealers"!!! these guys are from utah,
> and employ college students to go door to door, and do this crap,
> and it's not just brinks...there are SEVERAL companies having
> problems with this ONE company!! and yes, it's becoming a
> nationwide problem.

Let me see if I got this right so far. Ex-Brinks employees or other
dealers are now stealing Brinks' customers? So thieves are robbing
thieves. How is this a problem (for anyone but Brinks) and why
should anyone other than some idiot Brinks salesman give a rat's
olson either way?

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>

Robert L Bass

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Oct 1, 2007, 12:23:39 AM10/1/07
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> I have seen customers switched from one provider to another
> numerous times within a short time. It turned out that the
> salespeople were selling the same accounts to several account
> buyers at the same time. By the time they got wind of what was
> going on, the 2nd & 3rd companies were out lots of money. This kind
> of thing still goes on. The only difference is now they are
> licensed to do it now. Nothing has changed, except that police
> officers and fire fighters have been taken out of the side job
> market.
>
> Authorized dealers have the best racket. They sell accounts to
> Monitronics, ADT, Brinks, etc. After the contract has been
> completed, they go back and switch the account back to a friendly
> competitor, and the friend competitor does the same thing, or they
> resell the account to another unsuspecting buyer, and take the
> account back yet again.

For the customer it's sort of like gang rape except it takes several
years to finish.

Robert L Bass

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Oct 1, 2007, 12:27:44 AM10/1/07
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> you are wrong....they do not take over other panels. there is not
> one panel monitored by brinks that is not a brinks panel!!! the
> motherboard and keypad is ALWAYS switched out...no exceptions.

In this particular case, this Brinks salesman is correct. Rather
than monitor a system which can easily be taken away by another
company after the customer has had a taste of Brinks' service, Brinks
rips out and trashes perfectly good, functioning security systems
which the customers own and then replaces them with their
proprietary, leased trash. Worse still, many salesthieves don't even
tell the customer that they won't own the system.

Borked Pseudo Mailed

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Oct 1, 2007, 12:24:50 AM10/1/07
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Interesting reading:

http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2005/3/17/8131/00969

Pittsburgh Steeler Fan

Robert L Bass

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Oct 1, 2007, 12:29:20 AM10/1/07
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> they pull out all of the brinks equipment...

As would anyone with a lick of sense, including the customer.

BDEBJ

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Oct 1, 2007, 7:54:36 AM10/1/07
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1. i'm not a brinks salesman, you murderer
2. i know i am correct, that's why i said it!!!

Robert L Bass

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Oct 1, 2007, 8:23:22 AM10/1/07
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"BDEBJ" wrote:
>
> 1. i'm not a brinks salesman, you murderer

And Nixon was not a crook.

Slim

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Oct 1, 2007, 8:43:06 AM10/1/07
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"RoberBass" <Robe...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "BDEBJ" wrote:
>>
>> 1. i'm not a brinks salesman, you murderer
>
> And Nixon was not a crook.

but U & Clinton R, bAss.


Crash Gordon

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Oct 1, 2007, 11:08:21 AM10/1/07
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They probably sue him, claiming they invented DC powered keypads.

--
Crash Gordon
-------ouch------

<I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe>

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shotgun boogie

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Oct 1, 2007, 12:17:30 PM10/1/07
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Crash Gordon wrote:
> They probably sue him, claiming they invented DC powered keypads.

Ah, no. That was Al Gore.

--
js

- The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
( Also, the harder they bite, punch, and kick.)


Petem

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Oct 1, 2007, 9:06:44 PM10/1/07
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"Crash Gordon" <webm...@siriussystems.invalid> a écrit dans le message de
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> They probably sue him, claiming they invented DC powered keypads.
>
> --
> Crash Gordon

be careful here they will sue you on the fact that they had the idea of
suing the kid first and that you took it from them


Jim Rojas

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Oct 2, 2007, 5:01:03 PM10/2/07
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I'll show you how to properly reprogram a Brinks Security System. Just
give me a couple of weeks to play with their boards and create a
template that anyone can follow.

Pissed off to the extreme.

Jim Rojas

Frank Olson

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Oct 3, 2007, 1:26:23 AM10/3/07
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When you finally get around to recording the method (for posting on
YouTube), remember to put lots of powder on that head of yours or the
glare from the lights will make you look like an oncoming '54 Buick with
the high-beams on. :-)

Roland More

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Oct 3, 2007, 2:00:02 AM10/3/07
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Putting that on YouTube? That would leave Rojas with just the Tube. Brinks'
lawyers would be able to bill enough to all buy themselves new condos in the
Bahamas.

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Petem

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Oct 3, 2007, 8:34:03 PM10/3/07
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"Roland More" <NoSpam...@corridor.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Putting that on YouTube? That would leave Rojas with just the Tube.
> Brinks' lawyers would be able to bill enough to all buy themselves new
> condos in the Bahamas.

not just new condos....they would have enough to buy the whole place ;-)

Frank Olson

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Oct 5, 2007, 1:18:34 AM10/5/07
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Only if they managed to get a good price on the pile of used Brinks
panels in Jim's back yard.

Jim Rojas

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Oct 5, 2007, 4:30:32 PM10/5/07
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I reshingled my roof with several thousand Brinks 1000 keypads.

I spray painted them a terra cotta color, Home Depot carries a pretty
good line of roof paint.

Jim Rojas

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