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jan.halama

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Apr 6, 2011, 9:40:05 AM4/6/11
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Hi all,
I am trying to get some information about SIA standards. I hope this is
the right
place to get the answers for this topic.

My questions:
1. Is SIA DC-09 Internet protocol event reporting protocol wide-spread in
the
security systems and supported by receivers?

2. Is there any standard for video verification? DC-04 DSC 2000?

Jan

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SRyckman

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Apr 6, 2011, 10:35:26 AM4/6/11
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On Apr 6, 9:40 am, halama_at_jablocom_dot_...@foo.com (jan.halama)
wrote:

> 1. Is SIA DC-09 Internet protocol event reporting protocol wide-spread in
> the security systems and supported by receivers?

No. Several manufacturers have said they have it implemented but it's
use is very low at best. Most manufacturers use their proprietary
protocols as the default in their equipment.

> > 2. Is there any standard for video verification? DC-04 DSC 2000?

DC-04 (DCS SIA 2000 Standard) - commonly called SIA 2000 also has very
little adoption. I'm not aware of any mainstream panels that support
it and most receivers do not either. This standard was created for
future expansion and most vendors have not seen the need for it yet.

nick markowitz

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Apr 6, 2011, 5:41:09 PM4/6/11
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Only receiver I know that even receives SIA is Osborne Hoffman do not
know if they even make them any more

mleuck

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Apr 6, 2011, 11:56:08 PM4/6/11
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On Apr 6, 4:41 pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Only receiver I know that even receives SIA is Osborne Hoffman  do not
> know if they even make them any more

Huh? Just about every receiver currently made supports SIA including
Silent Knight, Honeywell and especially DSC, we use that format
extensively due to the longer account number capability

The new Honeywell Lynx Touch supports SIA along with CID

nick markowitz

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Apr 7, 2011, 6:10:43 AM4/7/11
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FBII does not forgot about SK .

mleuck

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Apr 7, 2011, 12:49:09 PM4/7/11
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They haven't made the FBII receiver in ages tho, at least 15-18 years
which was before SIA became widely implemented. I think OH only
produces IP receivers these days which are standard blade servers with
OH software.

SRyckman

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Apr 7, 2011, 2:03:03 PM4/7/11
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On Apr 6, 10:56 pm, mleuck <m.le...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 4:41 pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Only receiver I know that even receives SIA is Osborne Hoffman  do not
> > know if they even make them any more
>
> Huh? Just about every receiver currently made supports SIA including
> Silent Knight, Honeywell and especially DSC, we use that format
>


Not SIA, SIA 2000 - they are different. Yes SIA (original version)
is supported by most current receivers, Surgard System x series, Bosch
6600, OH2000 (no longer sold), SK9500/9800, ITI CS5000, etc.

jan.halama

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Apr 7, 2011, 4:09:36 PM4/7/11
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http://www.secure-gear.com/security-physical/SIA-standards-59218-.htm
jan.halama wrote:
SRyckman wrote:

> On Apr 6, 9:40=A0am, halama_at_jablocom_dot_...@foo.com (jan.halama)
> wrote:

>> 1. Is SIA DC-09 Internet protocol event reporting protocol

>> wide-spread i=


> n
>> the security systems and supported by receivers?

> No. Several manufacturers have said they have it implemented but it's
> use is very low at best. Most manufacturers use their proprietary
> protocols as the default in their equipment.

>> > 2. Is there any standard for video verification? DC-04 DSC
>>> 2000?

> DC-04 (DCS SIA 2000 Standard) - commonly called SIA 2000 also has very
> little adoption. I'm not aware of any mainstream panels that support
> it and most receivers do not either. This standard was created for
> future expansion and most vendors have not seen the need for it yet.


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Thank you for your answers. I am interested in IP communication to CMS.
You say
that new SIA protocols are not supported. How does it work in the CMS
world if
every manufacturer has own proprietary protocol. Is it neccesary to have
special
receiver for every type of control panel which is connected?


jan.halama

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Apr 7, 2011, 4:20:07 PM4/7/11
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responding to
http://www.secure-gear.com/security-physical/SIA-standards-59218-.htm
jan.halama wrote:
SRyckman wrote:

> On Apr 6, 10:56=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 4:41=A0pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@gmail.com>


>> wrote:
>>
>> > Only receiver I know that even receives SIA is Osborne Hoffman

>>> =A0do no=


> t
>> > know if they even make them any more
>>
>> Huh? Just about every receiver currently made supports SIA
>> including
>> Silent Knight, Honeywell and especially DSC, we use that format
>>


> Not SIA, SIA 2000 - they are different. Yes SIA (original version)
> is supported by most current receivers, Surgard System x series, Bosch
> 6600, OH2000 (no longer sold), SK9500/9800, ITI CS5000, etc.

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SIA the original version is probably SIA DC-03 am I right?


mleuck

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Apr 7, 2011, 10:59:00 PM4/7/11
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On Apr 7, 3:09 pm, halama_at_jablocom_dot_...@foo.com (jan.halama)
wrote:
> responding tohttp://www.secure-gear.com/security-physical/SIA-standards-59218-.htm

Every manufacturer uses a different method of IP communication from
the panel and at the central station

mleuck

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Apr 7, 2011, 11:02:25 PM4/7/11
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The ITI CS5000 has been discontinued for some time now, I have 3 of
them I'm trying to sell on Ebay, special made SK9800's and nice
receivers. I did notice today that OH discontinued the 2000e last
December.

You are correct about SIA 2000 although Nick just mentioned SIA

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