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David M Johnson

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Mar 5, 2002, 10:42:53 AM3/5/02
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Hello all. I am currently replacing my DSC 832 with a Caddx unit, either
the nx8 or 8e, and have a couple of questions. I can connect to my DSC panel
with a serial connection to program it using a program on my computer. This
is a very easy way to progam the unit, and I was wondering if the same can
be done with either of the caddx panels I am looking at. I have seen that
you can connect to the panel using a modem, but what about a serial
connection? Also, what advantages does the 8e offer over the 8 with the
exception of the serial connection and the capability of more zones? I know
that the automation control board will not plug into the 8e, but it will
work with the 8. I plan on getting a stargate controler down the road when
time and money allows, but for the mean time I would like to do some basic
x-10 control with the panel. If I buy the 8 with the automation control
board, and the board to allow it to hook up to the stargate, if it is a
different board, will it essentally be the same unit, with less zones? Any
help is appreciated

Thanks
Dave


Rob

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Mar 5, 2002, 11:10:12 AM3/5/02
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You can program the Caddx Nx8 with a serial cable if you buy the optional
NX-584 module...The Nx8e has this built in. The software is Caddx DL900.


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Technical

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Mar 5, 2002, 3:28:41 PM3/5/02
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The part needed for direct connect is the NX-586. It is recommended to use
this for the 8E as well as the 8. The NX-8E does have a serial interface
built in, but it was not set up to fully support direct connect.


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Rob

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Mar 5, 2002, 3:44:02 PM3/5/02
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I have the NX-584 and it works fine...You don't need the NX-586...The NX-584
will allow connection to many home automation controllers as well, once
you're done programming it.


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Technical

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Mar 5, 2002, 7:20:45 PM3/5/02
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FYI:


If you use the 584 or the port on the NX-8E there are things that will not
work 100% correct.

Using the port on the 8E, if the siren is changed to/from voltage, you will
have to enter/exit programming after direct connecting for this to take
effect. The same is true for enable/disable 2-wire smoke.

With the NX-584, this is the same for all panels. Also, the 584 must be
enrolled to direct connect to an NX-4 or 6, where the 586 never enrolls.

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David M Johnson

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Mar 5, 2002, 11:37:15 PM3/5/02
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Ok...whats the bottom line. Would it be better to choose the 8e or 8? I
want to have automation control using the system right out of the box,
without the need for the JDS stargate at this time. By automation control I
mean x-10 of course. Could you list the modules I would need to accomplish
this using the 8, and if it is possable using the same modules with the 8e?
Also which one is easier to program using the serial connection?

Thanks
Dave


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Rob

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Mar 6, 2002, 8:37:52 AM3/6/02
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Ahh...Thanks for the clarification...I've only used the NX8 with the 584,
and it's worked great...I've heard of a few bugaboos with the NX8e from
various user groups, so I've generally avoided it.


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Rob

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Mar 6, 2002, 8:36:18 AM3/6/02
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I'm not sure I follow your question...I'm not too familiar with the 8e, but
the 8 is not an automation controller...It's not cable of sending or
receiving X-10 signals...I assume the 8e is much the same. Most users
eventually tie their NX8's to their automation controllers (JDS, HomeVision,
etc) through the NX-584 serial interface for remote arming/disarming, zone
monitoring, etc.....But, unless I'm way off mark here, the NX8(e) does no
automation itself.


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Technical

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Mar 6, 2002, 2:19:46 PM3/6/02
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The only difference between the 8 and 8E, as far as automation is concerned,
is that the 8E has the serial interface build in, and would not require an
NX-584.

The NX-586 is recommended for direct connecting to either panel, so the
there is really no difference in the ease of programming.

The NX-8E has more zones, users, a bigger event log, more current available,
as well as a few added features.

Neither panel will actually send X-10 signals. There are modules that will
connect to either panel to do this:

NX-508E
NX-507E
NX-540( will not work on the 8E)
NX-534E

These require a PSC 04(PL513) interface to connect to the AC for sending
X-10 commands.

The first 3 above have programmable events to determine what will trigger an
X-10 signal to be generated. The last one is a listen-in device wich allows
the Central station, or you if you are listening in, to activate X-10. All
of these devices talk to each other on the keypad buss, therefore, if using
multiple devices on a system, only one need be connected to the PSC04
module.This is also what allows a system, such as Stargate, to tell the
alarm system to send X-10 commands. This is, of course, done through the
automation interface(584 or 8E).


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David M Johnson

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Mar 7, 2002, 12:26:47 AM3/7/02
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Ok if I buy the 8e, and I dont have the Stargate, how would I get it do
do x-10 like my DSC 832 with the escort module? Plus...I can access my alarm
panel with any telephone in my house, or remotly away, does caddx have
anything that will do something like this?

Thanks
Dave

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Technical

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Mar 7, 2002, 10:15:44 AM3/7/02
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Our equivilant to the escort is the NX-540. This does have an X-10
interface, but will not work on the NX-8E.

If you need telephone control, you will have to have an NX-8, not an 8E.


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Tom Cox

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Mar 7, 2002, 10:18:19 AM3/7/02
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Hi Dave,

You can use our vKey Virtual Keypad to connect to the serial port of the
NX-8 or NX-8E to control the panel from your PC, network, or via the web,
plus you can send X10 if you have one of the X10 modules mentioned above.
Check out www.traxsoft.com/vkeyinfo.html for more information and a download
version.

Tom


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