FAI Security Guard II wireless security system

[Aaron Priest]

Hi
I am seeking information from anyone who has a copy of, or knows how to
program "Security Guard I and II" security alarm systems.
This system was distributed in Australia by FAI Home Security (a branch of
FAI insurance). The company is now defunct and Chubb apparently now has the
contract for servicing these systems.
As well as a programming manual, I would also like to know if it is possible
to purchase key fobs, and extra remote PIR's for the system.
I am unsure if FAI had these systems made specifically for FAI, or if they
branded a system manufactured by another company.

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[Cracker]

If you are talking about that box you screw to the wall and plug into a
power point to charge up the battery, the manuals are very hard to come by,
as for parts the product was made by Ness in Sydney, it cost $185.00 to make
FAI sold it for $2500.00 with $500.00 commission going to the salesperson.
There definition of a monitored alarm is your neighbour listiing for the
siren ( hopefully there home), you would be better of not wasting money on
it.

"Aaron Priest" <aa...@arcom.com.au> wrote in message
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[Aaron Priest]

Yep that's the one. Thank you for the info. I have never known one to be
monitored, but I reason that anything that makes a noise is a deterrent,
especially to opportunistic burglars (even if it is for only a few seconds
before it is ripped/smashed off the wall).

Again, thanks for your reply.
Aaron

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[Cracker]

They do have outputs for a dialler on the main board, but i have never seen
a dialler board for one, you could slave a low current trigger relay of the
built in siren to trigger a nidac slave dialler for example, the biggest
problem with the whole system is the unit containing all the electroincs is
mounted on the wall and in 99% of fai installations that is in the lounge
room. This makes it very easy for attack and to disable. My advice is dont
was any money on it, you would be better of getting a new alarm system and
most companies will do you a better alarm system than the FAI crap and at
half the price of you paid for the box on the wall. Just dont get tied up
into any of these long term monitoring contracts. There is no such thing as
a free alarm system.

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[Aaron Priest]

The FAI system was an existing feature when I moved in - hence the lack of
any manuals - and I have since replaced it with a Networx NX-12, Cosmos dual
tech's etc. I did however want to chuck the old unit in a shack my family
owns, just outside of Adelaide. I am aware of the unit's shortcomings - I
think everyone is - after having seen the story that aired on one of the
current affairs shows a few years back (A Current Affair perhaps?).
It's one of those things where it's not worth purchasing a new system for
the shack, but if an old one can be made use of, for little or no money,
then why not. I have contacted Ness to see what the damage will be to get
what I need, and if I can get it at all. Thanks for the lead.

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[Mark Leuck]

"Aaron Priest" <aa...@arcom.com.au> wrote in message

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> The FAI system was an existing feature when I moved in - hence the lack of
> any manuals - and I have since replaced it with a Networx NX-12, Cosmos
dual
> tech's etc. I did however want to chuck the old unit in a shack my family
> owns, just outside of Adelaide. I am aware of the unit's shortcomings - I
> think everyone is - after having seen the story that aired on one of the
> current affairs shows a few years back (A Current Affair perhaps?).
> It's one of those things where it's not worth purchasing a new system for
> the shack, but if an old one can be made use of, for little or no money,
> then why not. I have contacted Ness to see what the damage will be to get
> what I need, and if I can get it at all. Thanks for the lead.

I could be wrong but if its like the SecurityGuard III you won't be able to
reprogram the dialer anyway. It locks the dialer after a month

[stni...@gmail.com]

Hi folks (if there is anyone still out there?) we have an old unit still in our home (Auckland NZ) and want to redecorate the room its in

Can anyone advised me how to remove the unit or I guess the outer front face so to access the screws holding it to the wall so I can paint the area behind it please?

It it positioned on internal corner walls which are an exterior wall / corner of the house (if this helps)

Any suggestions would be very gratefully appreciated

You can email direct at the above address i.e. stni...@gmail.com

Cheers from Nick S :-)

[eoin....@gmail.com]

Any luck getting it off your wall? Thanks.

[spongesqua...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 3:51:24 PM UTC+12, eoin....@gmail.com wrote:
> Any luck getting it off your wall? Thanks.

You just need to remove two rectangular lids for FAI I/II or speaker/LED cover for FAI III. It will expose normally 4 screws that you need to remove.

[johnski...@gmail.com]

Rip the cunt off,patch the screww holes

[roberc...@gmail.com]

By way of background, every few years, this sort of company starts up, and they are largely nothing but a means of getting your name on a long term contract without giving you much if anything in return. Here in Canada, NPS existed for over a decade back in the '80's, and eventually it was sold and made the owner a fortune because of suckers who bought into it. The equipment was largely junk, and customers were left high and dry. The latest iteration of that sort of "scam" is Alarmforce, that continues to exists only because people buy into advertising with little forethought to what they are getting (or in this case NOT getting) for their money.

After 30 years in the security business, it still amazes me how people "shop" for their security services. Scared off by the large companies with their large ongoing costs, they rush to companies promising their salvation from expensive pricing, but get nothing in return.

FAI was another such company. You can get DIY alarms on the internet which would give you better service than this junk and save you the trouble of having to search for parts.

[RTS]

By chance did you notice the original posters DATE!! June 12,
2003

12 years is a long time for a reply....

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[roberc...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 10:32:23 AM UTC-5, RTS wrote:
> By chance did you notice the original posters DATE!! June 12,
> 2003
>
> 12 years is a long time for a reply....
>
> RTS
>
>
>
> wrote in message
> news:3a5cf399-24da-4956...@googlegroups.com...

Sure, but you're reading it. Many folks read old posts and the reply is just as valid today as back then

[Jim]

Yet .............. you actually never answered the questions.

[chpf...@gmail.com]

Just found this site. Good info. I have the securityguard 111 and it is not connected with a security co, never has, but the battery is dead, won t charge. Charge light will come on when supposed to be charging but battery won t charge up. Had it for about 9, got from Australia for $500.00 w additional sensor for back of my RV and 2 keeyfobs. Worked fine till about yr and half ago but could not find replacement battery. After reading this informative info, looks like i need to just get a cheap motion sensor and place on table in my RV, and count my blessings!!! Thanks to all. Happy New Year.
Christina

[kenz...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, 9 January 2016 09:55:10 UTC+13, chpf...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just found this site. Good info. I have the securityguard 111 and it is not connected with a security co, never has, but the battery is dead, won t charge. Charge light will come on when supposed to be charging but battery won t charge up. Had it for about 9, got from Australia for $500.00 w additional sensor for back of my RV and 2 keeyfobs. Worked fine till about yr and half ago but could not find replacement battery. After reading this informative info, looks like i need to just get a cheap motion sensor and place on table in my RV, and count my blessings!!! Thanks to all. Happy New Year.
> Christina

Hi,having battery problems with our FAI SGII and trying to open it up to see if the batteries can be replaced by other rechargeable ones.Some interesting (and old)comments.
Ken

[kenz...@gmail.com]

Hi again,have found battery (Century Batteries,Onehunga,NZ)Fitted it and got the unit back on the wall,but now need to know how to re-program the spare security key (remote) and bring the PIR sensor back on line

[mleuck]

Why bother? Even when new those things were junk

[alcha...@gmail.com]

Hi Cracker, After all these years I'm needing to open my alarm box to get it off the wall to reovate,do know where I can get an off/on key that opens the box from the bottom,its like a little barrel key. Charlie.

[Robert Campbell]

Yup, comparable to the modern day scammer Alarmforce. Sold to gullible people who do no research on security products,by fast buck artists who only stay in business because people believe advertising over facts

Sad, but inevitable

[Jim]

On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 8:17:16 AM UTC-4, Robert Campbell wrote:
> Yup, comparable to the modern day scammer Alarmforce. Sold to gullible people who do no research on security products,by fast buck artists who only stay in business because people believe advertising over facts
>
> Sad, but inevitable

Hello Robert,

I see that you're still looking at the grass from this side.

[Robert Campbell]

I check in now and then just to see if the group is still alive. Clearly nothing much has changed in our industry - scammers and opportunists still abound.

I run the business from the office these days with my son and his staff running the actual business. He has changed our scope of operations to include Voip, DSL services, structured cabling, and high end home automation services. The market is changing drastically and a business has to follow or die.

I hope your business is thriving and you are doing well.

On Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 3:13:45 AM UTC-4, Aaron Priest wrote:

[Jim]

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 9:42:56 AM UTC-4, Robert Campbell wrote:
> I check in now and then just to see if the group is still alive. Clearly nothing much has changed in our industry - scammers and opportunists still abound.
>
> I run the business from the office these days with my son and his staff running the actual business. He has changed our scope of operations to include Voip, DSL services, structured cabling, and high end home automation services. The market is changing drastically and a business has to follow or die.
>
> I hope your business is thriving and you are doing well.
>
>

Doing all the things I like to do now. If I don't want to do it ..... I don't.

But I'm into so many technologies now that I've become a "one stop shop"
In new high end homes nowdays they want all the gadgets and I do them all. Anything to do with Internet, CCTV, home theater, whole house audio, TV mounting, automated lighting and remote control via IPhone/Ipad etc, etc etc. Lovin every minute of it.

I get a kick out of the kids of my clients. They see me come in and I can see the total disinterest in this "old guy" and what their parents may want. That is until I start talking their language about the hookup of their computers, the wifi networks and video games. THEN ..... I become their "best buddy" "Can you hook this game up?" "Can you make my TV split screen ?" I love it.

I don't know why I still have the grey matter to do these things that most others my age are clueless about and the good health to pursue it, but .... It's great fun.

Hope your doing well. It's good that your son took a liking to the business. I'm not so fortunate in that regard. When I go out ..... it's done. But, 47 years and counting is a pretty good run.

Take care.

[Robert Campbell]

On Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 3:13:45 AM UTC-4, Aaron Priest wrote:

That is exactly what my son has evolved our business into. That is where the demand is. He seems to spend most of his days doing huge custom homes and doing exactly the things you are doing. I guess that says something about you and I. I had no desire to do those things but you rightly did. So while you evolved correctly, my business would have likely died without my son taking it over.

36 years for me; 47 for you. As long as it's still fun and you have the physical stamina to maintain it, keep at it. It WILL keep you young.

All the best. Too bad we never met in person. Your arch nemesis Bob Bass wasn't such a bad guy in person...:)) In spite of our many strongly held differences, I suspect the same about you...

[Jim]

On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 8:09:03 AM UTC-4, Robert Campbell wrote:

>
> That is exactly what my son has evolved our business into. That is where the demand is. He seems to spend most of his days doing huge custom homes and doing exactly the things you are doing. I guess that says something about you and I. I had no desire to do those things but you rightly did. So while you evolved correctly, my business would have likely died without my son taking it over.
>
> 36 years for me; 47 for you. As long as it's still fun and you have the physical stamina to maintain it, keep at it. It WILL keep you young.
>
> All the best. Too bad we never met in person. Your arch nemesis Bob Bass wasn't such a bad guy in person...:)) In spite of our many strongly held differences, I suspect the same about you...

I can agree with you on the latter part but if you'll notice

I'm still here, you're still here and a few of the other "old timers" are here or still show up now and then ....... So ..... you will note that with only one catalyst missing ..... every thing is peaceful.

I think that says it all.

[nanop...@gmail.com]

https://www.chubbhomesecurity.com.au/media/1236/sg2-user-manual.pdf

[brad....@gmail.com]

The key doesn't open the box.
Does anyone know how to remove the unit off the wall - preferrably undamaged?

I can't seem to find an installation guide for this model (SG II)

Any help appreciated

B

[John R. Sowden]

I am not familiar with that specific panel, but if it has a panel lock,
and you are removing the system, I would suggest drilling the lock. A
sharp 1/4" bit and some patience (go slowly) should do the trick.
Replacing a panel lock is usually a $2-8 trick. (About 2.00 wholesale).

Hope this helps,

John Sowden
American Sentry

[splo...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 4:55:10 AM UTC+8, chpf...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just found this site. Good info. I have the securityguard 111 and it is not connected with a security co, never has, but the battery is dead, won t charge. Charge light will come on when supposed to be charging but battery won t charge up. Had it for about 9, got from Australia for $500.00 w additional sensor for back of my RV and 2 keeyfobs. Worked fine till about yr and half ago but could not find replacement battery. After reading this informative info, looks like i need to just get a cheap motion sensor and place on table in my RV, and count my blessings!!! Thanks to all. Happy New Year.
> Christina

Found these posts today. We have an FAI SGII and discovered that one of the detectors isn't programmed in. Showing a "-" on the main unit display. The manuals supplied by Chubb don't give you steps on how to program detectors in. I phoned Chubb as I have before and they have been able to help me on the phone but his time they said a technician would need to come out to do it at $150 call out fee, etc.... Does anyone out there know how to program in a detector that is showing this dash "-"? thanks in advance. Helen

[BobbyD]

The key is only needed to power up the unit and reset it for programming. You first take a small very short screwdriver blade and pry the small plastic horizontal strip located in the middle front off. You will see cover screws underneath. Remove screws. You will then need to squeeze on the sides of the unit for the cover to pop off. It takes a certain touch so you will have to just feel your way along. The cover has a close tolerance on the edges. I suggest squeezing from the top sides and work your way down. It is easy once you get the feel for it. Once you have popped off the cover you will see the mounting screws that mount the unit into the wall. There are four of them. Have fun....

[gregtech...@gmail.com]

To remove the FAI SG2 from the wall or to open it to change the battery.

Go here: Instructions with pictures.

http://www.fixya.com/support/t21961020-replacement_system_battery

Manuals are not hard to get - if you want them contact me.

Plus I'll help you in any other way I can as I pretty much know everything there is to know about them. Even how to reset the locked out dialer (that has been mentioned and how to reset the SG3 v1.1 which can't be reset via the default option. Most technicians who talk these Guardpost systems down, usually do because they don't have complete knowledge on them, otherwise they'd be helping too instead of promoting their own products.

Agreed, they are old systems, and the SG1 in my view was the 'lemon', but I still have all the parts required to keep them running for those that choose.

Cheers,
Greg
Security Service Technician

[gregtech...@gmail.com]

Sorry I forgot my contact details:

gregtech...@gmail.com
or
0416021311

[jono...@gmail.com]

I know this is a little bit of an old post, but I got help from Greg from one of the later posts, he was really helpful and even did a quick video for me which cleared up anything I wasn't sure about. Really easy to program using the remote.

[jono...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:13:45 UTC+12, Aaron Priest wrote:
> Hi
> I am seeking information from anyone who has a copy of, or knows how to
> program "Security Guard I and II" security alarm systems.
> This system was distributed in Australia by FAI Home Security (a branch of
> FAI insurance). The company is now defunct and Chubb apparently now has the
> contract for servicing these systems.
> As well as a programming manual, I would also like to know if it is possible
> to purchase key fobs, and extra remote PIR's for the system.
> I am unsure if FAI had these systems made specifically for FAI, or if they
> branded a system manufactured by another company.
>
>
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I know this is an old post, but I found it a couple of days ago and saw the post from Greg near the bottom... he was very helpful and I have been able to get my alarm unit undone and replaced the battery and reprogrammed without too much trouble. Greg was even able to provide a video which really made things so much easier, easier than reading the manual, but the manual also offered some insight to some of the other options available.

Thanks Greg for your help, truly wonderful, I can not head away on my break for a few days knowing the house is once again alarmed.

[gregtech...@gmail.com]

Thanks Johnathan,

Yes, it's much easier when you're given the PROPER information.

I've started another post here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.security.alarms/soJ1S-VBqq4

To try and help others wanting my expertise and to get the correct information first.

Kind regards,
Greg

[you...@southcom.com.au]

On Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 5:13:45 PM UTC+10, Aaron Priest wrote:
> Hi
> I am seeking information from anyone who has a copy of, or knows how to
> program "Security Guard I and II" security alarm systems.
> This system was distributed in Australia by FAI Home Security (a branch of
> FAI insurance). The company is now defunct and Chubb apparently now has the
> contract for servicing these systems.
> As well as a programming manual, I would also like to know if it is possible
> to purchase key fobs, and extra remote PIR's for the system.
> I am unsure if FAI had these systems made specifically for FAI, or if they
> branded a system manufactured by another company.
>
>
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I have a copy if you are still interested.

[zipidid...@gmail.com]

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/m8p6yhro4eeaz/FAI_Manuals

SG 1 Programming Flowchart.pdf

SG 1 User Manual.pdf

SG 2 Programming Flowchart.pdf

SG 2 Tech Manual.pdf

SG 2 User Manual.pdf

SG 3 User Manual (original).pdf

SG3 Programming Manual.pdf

[wong.s...@gmail.com]

Thanks very much for posting the manuals

[zipidid...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 5:27:14 PM UTC+10, wong.s...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks very much for posting the manuals

To easy Wong, but the real thanks should be to Greg from GREGTECH SERVICES from the posts above, I got them from him and he said it would be okay to post whatever I want because he only wants to help others who want to do this stuff themselves.

He has amazing knowledge on all these systems because he said he was an installer of them in the 90's and he said he then worked for Chubb via service dealers until 2015. He said Chubb didn't need his expert experience anymore probably because it prevented them from upgrading to other systems. He said a usual service job mostly required batteries and remote keys, etc. He said Chubb sees them as obsolete because parts are unavailable from Ness. BUT I know this isn't totally true as I purchased a Ness sensor and remote key from Greg which he programmed into my SG2.
In case you cant locate him in these posts - you can contact him here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.security.alarms/soJ1S-VBqq4
I'm happy to promote him because he has helped me many times over the phone.
I wish other tradies were like him. Thanks again Greg, you are a rare breed.

[cheemi...@gmail.com]

I also had Greg to replaced my Sg II battery. Good job.

Lately one of my pir detector is faulty. It always send force alarm to the controller. Hence i thought wanna to DIY and had bought an ordinary Pir detector from ebay.

Now, my issue is how to get this pir detector to communicate / send signal to the controller.

Does anyone has the idea ? Thanks in advance for guidance.

Chee

[gregtech...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 5:01:10 PM UTC+11, cheemi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I also had Greg to replaced my Sg II battery. Good job.

> Thanks Chee,
Sorry, I haven't looked in here for awhile - I could've helped you further if you had contacted me (again) ??

As I've maintained, I'm here to help, where I can.
So if you (or anyone) require my FREE technical expertise via E-Mail or phone;

gregtech...@gmail.com

or

0416021311 (Australian mobile)

Cheers,
Greg

[june...@gmail.com]

Interesting, we purchased our security guard from FAI in 1999 before going on an overseas holiday & before there was much choice in the market here in NZ. It is now telling us the battery is failing, won’t charge so I think it’s time to look at an alternative option now that we are spoilt for choice. 😊

[tony59...@gmail.com]

Hi Greg, I have an SG2 fitted in my home and i now require new remote key units. Where can I purchase these units? I reside in South Africa. Thanks. Tony

[gregtech...@gmail.com]

> Hi Greg, I have an SG2 fitted in my home and i now require new remote key units. Where can I purchase these units? I reside in South Africa. Thanks. Tony

Hi Tony,
Search Ebay for "RK3+1"
Whether they will send them to South Africa is the big question though.

[Melissa Dryden]

I'm in new Zealand (Auckland) and I recently moved into a new house and it has Came with FAI SECURITY GARD SG II 2 remotes for it and 3 wall mounted batterie sensors. I've looked EveryWare for a charger for the main module (FAI SECURITY GARD SG II 2) so ive come on here looking for it. if you guys know what it is and where to buy it please reply, thanks.

[ABLE1]

On 6/3/2023 3:35 AM, Melissa Dryden wrote:
> I'm in new Zealand (Auckland) and I recently moved into a new house and it has Came with FAI SECURITY GARD SG II 2 remotes for it and 3 wall mounted batterie sensors. I've looked EveryWare for a charger for the main module (FAI SECURITY GARD SG II 2) so ive come on here looking for it. if you guys know what it is and where to buy it please reply, thanks.
>

Melissa,

I know nothing about the FAI GARD SG II. However, with a little
searching I found the following.

https://o.b5z.net/i/u/10158074/f/SGII_User_Manual.pdf

If you go to page 21 on the right side the specs on the charger
are there. That is what you should be looking to find.

For Auckland/New Zealand 220-260v AC input and 17 VAC @300mA output.

The key part of the charger will be the input connecting plug to meet
your local requirements. There are also such things as the correct
diameter and voltage output sockets.

Good Luck in your search.

Les

[RTS]

as Les said,
..
However, If your looking to find the transformer in your new home.
It would depend on the whereabouts the main cabinet is located..
If it's in a closet, try looking at outlets in surrounding rooms,
or basement below the closet, or even floor above (including attic near
access door)
..
But as Les assumes, you've already done all that, then go with a
replacement transformer...
Taking care, when you install the new one..
..
Being an older system, be sure and change all the batteries, (panel
included) and record the date (and keep it in or on the alarm cabinet)..
that way you can tell if a sensor might be going bad or replacing..
..
Welcome to the world of Alarm system maintenance/ownership...
..
RTS
--

*Rocky T. Squirrel, esq.*

[ABLE1]

Rocky,

According to the manual this has a rechargeable battery that will keep
the system running for 3 months. The txfmr. is a wall wart with a cord
and small jack to fit a socket. Like your cell phone, but not!!

If Melissa can't find it any where in her "now" house, it would be my
guess that the previous owner packed it up in the MISC. Box when they
moved out. :-(

Les

[RTS]

Nice,,,
Tks, for the update...

[GREGTECH SERVICES]

Hi Melissa,

I've sent you an Email but in case you don't receive it, and for the benefit others whom are interested.

The technical info that ABLE1 (Les) provided from the manual is as he stated, what you are looking for.
As I concluded in the Email, if you don't find one I maybe able to send you one.
I can also make up one from a radio dialer charger as they are the same specs, I just have to put a proper connector at the end of the cable and lengthen the cable. I have many of these dialer chargers as the dialer's are now obsolete since the advent of GSM in Guardpost's for communication.
Alternatively I could purchase a new one from Ness and send you that. Unfortunately they are not listed on Ness's website so I would have to get in contact with them to order one. Mostly when I do service work and a charger is required, I just make up one from a dialer charger, unless of course the customer wants a new one. All the new chargers are bigger and black with black ugly cable, which looks terrible on most white walls. The dialer chargers are white and I use white cable to extend it to any length required. The only positive aspect of the new black charger is that it can be opened by unscrewing four screws if need be.

If the SGII doesn't have a flashing red LED (every 5 seconds) showing on it, I would say depending on the date you moved into the house and if the Guardpost was functioning prior to your moving in, it will most likely need a replacement battery. Attempting to charge a dead battery (especially on the SGII) can most commonly default the system to factory specs, meaning sensors (PIR's) and remote hand fobs may require reprogramming, as well as some system settings. Also you made no mention of an EOK (Emergency Override Key), which is handy for getting into system programming (on this model). Otherwise the front cover needs to be removed to briefly disconnect/reconnect the battery, which does the same thing as the EOK if used for that purpose. Other than that the EOK is used to shut the system down in case of hand fob remote loss or failure if the system is in an ARMED state, etc, and you want to STOP the very, very loud noise.

Cheers,
Greg

[mleuck]

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 2:35:16 AM UTC-5, Melissa Dryden wrote:
> I'm in new Zealand (Auckland) and I recently moved into a new house and it has Came with FAI SECURITY GARD SG II 2 remotes for it and 3 wall mounted batterie sensors. I've looked EveryWare for a charger for the main module (FAI SECURITY GARD SG II 2) so ive come on here looking for it. if you guys know what it is and where to buy it please reply, thanks.

I have the manuals for it but please do the world a favor and get rid of that garbage, it was junk when new

[GREGTECH SERVICES]

lol - says a couch expert - really - pull your head in and get off the "whining bandwagon" about things you don't have complete knowledge on.
Like previously when you stated,

"I could be wrong but if its like the SecurityGuard III you won't be able to reprogram the dialer anyway. It locks the dialer after a month."

Well that's not true, we did reprogram (reset) the dialer and SGIII when we had to - it just wasn't public knowledge at the time, but it was in 2016 when you made that comment. But obviously you were too lazy to check because if others were saying it, it must be true.

[mleuck]

Far from a couch potato I had one, it was later rebadged as an ElkGuard. Garbage then garbage now.