DSC, DLS and PCLINK

[Alan Rothenbush]

Novice here, so please bear with me.

I purchased a DSC Power832 (PC5010) with expander module, wireless
reciever (for those places _impossible_ to get wire to) and LED keypad.

My dealer was most helpful in getting me setup and teaching me how to
program it myself.

(I'm an electronics/computer guy, so having this neato electronic thing
and not having any knowledge of the "workings" was unnacceptable).

There's two things on my mind.

a. About once every three months, the system reports a tamper to the
monitoring station, which phones me, I tell them to ignore it, etc.

The panel, as best I can determine after punching in all the keys, never
tells me what caused the tamper, and indeed, never shows any sort fault
as having happened at all.

This leads me to ...

b. what do I have to buy to allow me to examine the programming and the
"reports" on a computer.

I think I need a PCLINK cable, which certainly looks like something I can wire
up in a minute, and I guess I need the DLS software, which I can purchase
from a few sites.

But do I need anything else ?

I suspect I need a PC5401 module, as I cannot think of where else to
connect a PCLINK cable to.

Any help gratefully appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Alan
--
Alan Rothenbush | The Spartans do not ask the number of the
Academic Computing Services | enemy, only where they are.
Simon Fraser University |
Burnaby, B.C., Canada | Agix of Sparta

[petem]

a pc link can be wired directly to the pc 5010

no need of a pc 5401..

But this can only be a temporary connection cause if the pc link is
connected this will prevent the transmission to the central of any code..

if you want to use this as a permanent connection you will need the pc5401..
in this case you will need to aply power to the pc5401 but dont connect the
combuss wire to it..(only the red and black)
then you put the provided wire between the pc 5010 and the pc5401 then
connect the serial cable of the computer to the serial connecteur of the
pc5401..

hope it helped..

"Alan Rothenbush" <be...@sfu.ca> a écrit dans le message de
news:slrnce953...@sauron.ucs.sfu.ca...

[Alan Rothenbush]

In article <pm1Fc.11845$t55.5...@wagner.videotron.net>, petem wrote:
>
> hope it helped..
>

Yup, I think so.

If I understand, the panel is programmed either to "speak" out its modem (to
the central monitoring station) or to speak out its serial port to a local
PC, but not both.

I have downloaded a copy of the DLS3 software, that explains how to program
the panel to speak out the serial port, but not documnet how to put it back !

Perhaps my installer can help .. or maybe I can figure it out from the
downloaded info.

Thanks again.

[Dorian Kruse]

Alan Rothenbush <be...@sfu.ca> wrote in message news:<slrnce953...@sauron.ucs.sfu.ca>...

Alan, The PC5401 is not what you need. The PC5401 is for RS232
conection to other systems and controls. The DLS software conects to
the panel thru a modem. You will need to get the DLS software and the
proper Modem (which by the way is extremly slow, since the last time I
downloaded a panel) and downkoad the panel make any changes and upload
it back to the panel. The tamper could be from the wireless devices
cover or a number of other things, I don't think the download software
is going to be of any help but it sounds like you might have fun with
it. It is pretty cool software and the PC 832 is by far the best panel
on the market. If I can be of more assitance let me know.

[Interested]

Alan Rothenbush <be...@sfu.ca> wrote in message news:<slrnce953...@sauron.ucs.sfu.ca>...

<snip>

>
> b. what do I have to buy to allow me to examine the programming and the
> "reports" on a computer.
>
> I think I need a PCLINK cable, which certainly looks like something I can wire
> up in a minute, and I guess I need the DLS software, which I can purchase
> from a few sites.
>
> But do I need anything else ?
>
> I suspect I need a PC5401 module, as I cannot think of where else to
> connect a PCLINK cable to.

<snip>

A PCLINK should do what you need. There should be a 4-pin header on
the panel labeled something like "PC Link", usually it is slightly up
and to the left of center of the board.

You can make one in a few minutes-- the pinout is available. I seem to
remember a resistor being the only thing close to being an "odd" item.

Then you also need DLS.

Shouldn't need a 5401 unless you're doing some interesting stuff.

Interested.

[Frank Olson]

"Alan Rothenbush" <be...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:slrnce953...@sauron.ucs.sfu.ca...
>

> Novice here, so please bear with me.
>
> I purchased a DSC Power832 (PC5010) with expander module, wireless
> reciever (for those places _impossible_ to get wire to) and LED keypad.
>
> My dealer was most helpful in getting me setup and teaching me how to
> program it myself.
>
> (I'm an electronics/computer guy, so having this neato electronic thing
> and not having any knowledge of the "workings" was unnacceptable).
>
> There's two things on my mind.
>
> a. About once every three months, the system reports a tamper to the
> monitoring station, which phones me, I tell them to ignore it, etc.

Disable "general system tamper" reporting (location 338). This usually "cures"
the problem with version 2.0 boards.

Someone's already provided you the answer for the rest... :-))

[Robert L. Bass]

> ... and downkoad the panel make any changes and
> upload it back to the panel...

For the sake of clarity (and to avoid a nasty surprise:)), you download *to*
the panel and upload *from* it. If you get the terminology wrong it's easy
to wipe out your programming.

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http://www.bass-home.com/faq/masterfaq/faq.htm

Regards,
Robert

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[Robert L. Bass]

> A PCLINK should do what you need. There should be a 4-pin header on
> the panel labeled something like "PC Link", usually it is slightly up
> and to the left of center of the board.
>
> You can make one in a few minutes-- the pinout is available. I seem to
> remember a resistor being the only thing close to being an "odd" item.
>
> Then you also need DLS.
>
> Shouldn't need a 5401 unless you're doing some interesting stuff.

That is correct. The PC-LINK9 and the software are cheap. I carry both in
my online store.

[Mark Leuck]

"Frank Olson" <Please_use_th...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in
message news:fd6Fc.964782$oR5.226286@pd7tw3no...

But it doesn't cure the actual tamper, I'd find out what that is first

[x]

I'd like to know wht that pinout is, if someone can explain or direct e
somewhere?

Thanks
Michael

"Interested" <phon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Alan Rothenbush]

Many thanks to all who've helped. I think I've got it now.

I am VERY embarrassed to say that while I have been an EE for some
30 years now, I entirely missed the 4 pin PCLINK connector on
the panel ! Darkish closet, failing eyesight, evil shadow are my
excuses. <G>

I have one last question that I'm not clear on. The DLS3 docs
state that to communicate with the local computer via a PCLINK
cable, I enter

*8
installer code
499
installer code
499

and the panel should then communicate with the PC.

I assume this to mean that the panel is now using its serial port
instead of its modem to send info.

The question is, how do I "flip" the panel back, so that it is again
communicating by modem with the monitoring station ?

You see, the point of this exercise is not to do my own monitoring
nor is it to be able to watch things remotely.

I simply want to know how my panel is programmed, in every detail,
and get that to paper, and I don't want to do so by laboriously
pounding away on my LED keypad.

Thanks again.

[Alan Rothenbush]

In article <dreFc.12791$a24.10020@attbi_s03>, Mark Leuck wrote:
>> Disable "general system tamper" reporting (location 338). This usually
> "cures"
>> the problem with version 2.0 boards.
>
> But it doesn't cure the actual tamper, I'd find out what that is first

Agreed.

That's one of the reasons why I want to get this PCLINK/DLS thing
working, to have a look at

a. the current programming (both for archive purposes and to understand
how the zillion settings might interact), and

b. the event buffer, to see if there's something in there that doesn't
show up with all my button presses

That's also why I'm interested in a PC5401, to log all events and maybe
make some sense from those.

(It is not, as my wife insists, just another toy. It is a serious
and necessary component of our overall security system. She should
believe _me_, and not her lying eyes !)

[RH.Campbell]

Sir, there is nothing special you need to do. By going into section 499 in
the sequence you describe, the panel will communicate via the PC link cable.
When you exit, it will always use the modem for outgoing communications with
the central station. There is nothing special you need to do.

However, in your software, you must default the laptop / software to the
option of using the PC Link cable instead of it looking for a modem
connection for the panel to go into PC Link communications mode. In other
words, you must force it to communicate through the PC Link connection.....

RHC

"Alan Rothenbush" <be...@sfu.ca> wrote in message

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[x]

I have been trying uncuccessfully to install the DLS software. I am stopped
by the message to install "DLS2002 Engine Only" which doesn't make sense.
Probably something simple, but would someone please put me out of my misery?

Thanks
Michael

[petem]

The dsl software is splitted in many section

you need to first install the dsl engine folowed by the driver you
need..(north american or the rest of the world driver)

then you need the service packs...

<x> a écrit dans le message de news:40e6b...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[x]

Yep, understand that.

I have the DSL2002 and the service packs but I cannot identify the specific
Engine component.

"petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
news:znAFc.66604$t55.1...@wagner.videotron.net...

[petem]

what are the name of the installer that you have?

<x> a écrit dans le message de news:40e7f...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[x]

I have
- dls2002_int_products
- dls2002 sp1A
- dls2002 sp2

and then
- dls3v1-3_int_drv
- dls-3 lcd5500z v3.0 driver

"petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com> wrote in message

news:CD1Gc.14114$D_3.5...@weber.videotron.net...

[Mark Leuck]

You have the international version but if its like the north America version
you would also need dls2002_engine_only.exe

<x> wrote in message news:40e9a...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[alarman]

Alan Rothenbush wrote
The Spartans do not ask the number of the enemy, only where they are.

The Spartans then lack critical tactical information necessary to form an
effective battle plan.
js

[petem]

As Mark Stated you need the Engine only installer..with out that,the rest is
not useable..

"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:HCjGc.30077$Oq2.10698@attbi_s52...

[petem]

I f you want i can send you the engine section of the installer..

but i would like to see the international version(dont have acccess to it..)

but i need an email addy to send it to you..

<x> a écrit dans le message de news:40e9a...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[x]

How big is this "engine only installer" ? if it is reasonable (like 1 or two
Mb) then email will be feasible for me.

The international version in its most compressed form is about 37Mb.. so I'm
not quite sure how to show you that.

Thanks

"petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com> wrote in message

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[petem]

i will set a small ftp here and leave you a password for it..

you will have access to the installer

i ll post it when its ready

<x> a écrit dans le message de news:40eb0...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[x]

Thank you very much.

"petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com> wrote in message

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[petem]

ftp seted up at

ftp://petem.is-a-geek.net
on port 21
log in anonymously..

no password needed

can you please upload the international files that you have?
tks

<x> a écrit dans le message de news:40ed9...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[petem]

LOL nice ass sent here on my ftp....

i wont post the ip....but sprint should not let kids play with computer
!!LOL

if someone want to download i will keep it on the server!!! he hehe

"petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:5vkHc.16410$m77.3...@weber.videotron.net...

[Security Pro]

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 19:37:46 -0400, "petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com>
wrote:

>LOL nice ass sent here on my ftp....

hehehehehe :)

[Security Pro]

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 19:37:46 -0400, "petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com>
wrote:

>

>if someone want to download i will keep it on the server!!! he hehe

[5] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:47 - (000014) IP-Name:
PCP03201011PCS.PALMRN01.FL.COMCAST.NET
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:47 - (000014) USER anonymous
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:47 - (000014) 331 User name okay, please send
complete E-mail address as password.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) PASS IEUser@
[5] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) ANONYMOUS logged in, password:
IEUSER@
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 230 User logged in, proceed.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) opts utf8 on
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 501 Invalid option.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) syst
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 215 UNIX Type: L8
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) site help
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 501 SITE option not supported.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) PWD
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 257 "/" is current directory.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) noop
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 200 Command okay.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) CWD /
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 250 Directory changed to /
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) TYPE A
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 200 Type set to A.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) PASV
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 227 Entering Passive Mode
(192,168,123,102,11,101)
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) LIST
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 150 Opening ASCII mode data
connection for /bin/ls.
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:40:48 - (000014) 226 Transfer complete.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:22 - (000014) noop
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:22 - (000014) 200 Command okay.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:22 - (000014) CWD /
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:22 - (000014) 250 Directory changed to /
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:22 - (000014) DELE A0101003.JPG
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:22 - (000014) 550 Permission denied.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:30 - (000014) noop
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:30 - (000014) 200 Command okay.
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:30 - (000014) CWD /
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:30 - (000014) 250 Directory changed to /
[2] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:30 - (000014) DELE P1010444.JPG
[6] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:30 - (000014) 550 Permission denied.
[5] Thu 08Jul04 19:41:39 - (000014) Closing connection for user
ANONYMOUS (00:00:52 connected)

every thing is logged….

He he he
Like if it was the first time I set a ftp server….

[petem]

he he he ;-)

"Security Pro" <s...@message.body> a écrit dans le message de
news:5aore0dahbqsuah2p...@4ax.com...

> every thing is logged..
>
> He he he
> Like if it was the first time I set a ftp server..
>

[Security Pro]

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:09:36 -0400, "petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com>
wrote:

>
>
>he he he ;-)

Now we know Robert's IP addy : 68.56.252.181

He did more poking around than I did! :-)

[petem]

LOL

i just put a photo of my..unshaved but still me.... he he he ;-)

"Security Pro" <s...@message.body> a écrit dans le message de

news:rlore0pmg9cv22vb5...@4ax.com...

[petem]

So x have you been able to connect to the FTP server?

if so were you able to download the files you need?

and if you did made it...i would be more then interrested in the driver you
already have (the international version)

thanks

[x]

I have been actually using a friend with a broadband connection to do the
downloads for me.

He says he has downloaded the "engine only" and uploaded the int_version
driver successfully.

Let me know if you have not got it yet.

Cheers
Michael

"petem" <pe...@nospamatall.com> wrote in message

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[x]

So now I have all the stuff installed and connected, and the gol posts move
again!

When I tell the panel (Power 832) to "Initiate PC-Link" [499], the DLS
softwar responds with "Support for the panel that answered cannot be found
in this installation" As best I can tell, I have a PC5010 Version 2.0 which
is supported by DLS 2002.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Michael

[Spike]

Do you remember picking the panels you use during the software
installation?

<x> wrote in message news:40fa4...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[x]

Yep. I have installed the software twice... but I'll try again just to make
sure.

"Spike" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[x]

Re-installed again, with service packs 1 and 2, but to no avail.
All the panels are there when installing.

Any other ideas?
Thanks
Michael

"Spike" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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[Spike]

Two files, engine and products, install engine first, then products.
When you install products, it prompts all files or selected files,
Is the 5010 v2 showing as a checked box?
If it is, I'm stumped.

<x> wrote in message news:40fad...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[alarman]

<x> wrote in message news:40fad...@news1.mweb.co.za...

> Re-installed again, with service packs 1 and 2, but to no avail.
> All the panels are there when installing.
>
> Any other ideas?
> Thanks
> Michael

Try not specifying the panel and use auto detect, see what happens.
js

[x]

Yep, got that right too.

Installed (a) the engine ony, then (b) the products (and then of course SP1
and SP2).

and the 5010 is showing. But nope, the same error message. Tried the
autodetect, but that is where the error started!

Any other ideas anyone?

Thanks
Michael

"Spike" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote in message

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[Spike]

Any chance there's a Intl' version of the engine?

<x> wrote in message news:40fc1...@news1.mweb.co.za...

[petem]

no international version of the engine just the driver..

By the way X what version of driver did you used?
and in what country are you?

"Spike" <som...@microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de
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[x]

HA! Finally got it working.

Seems that I made a bad choice when installing the software... I chose the
wrong country.

It would seem that the option are then dependant on the country chosen! So
much for the global village I suppose.

Cheers
Michael

[carlss...@gmail.com]

Ok,
I realize this is a very old thread. However, I'll give it a try at least.

I'm looking for sw to program my DSC PC 5015 (Power 832) V 3.22 C. That i bought used and want to install in our house.

I'm however not that excited about doing all the programming using the keypad (not realizing how hard it would be to get hold of the sw for the computer.

Can anyone help me out??!

As far as i understand i need DLS 2002 + intl driver pack (cannot find) + driver for the PC 5015 (cannot find)

I will runt a PK5500 wired keypad so i guess these are the only drivers needed, right?

Can anyone help me get these drivers?

br
Jens

[eljefe...@gmail.com]

http://www.shieldlab.com/forum/index.php?topic=35931.0

[mleuck]

Problem not solved that link has a PC1864 and the forum points to installing DLS5 which isn't compatible with older 5010/5015's. For that he still requires DLS-2002

He's better off programming it from the keypad, it's a heck of a lot quicker