home alarm system?
dallasalarm
I recently purchased a rental property that has a home security
system. I want to activate the system but I don t know the pass code.
Isn't there a master programming code that I can use to reset the
whole thing?
Posted from the Free Home Improvement Forum at http://www.spicyhome.com
Nicko
(dallasalarm) wrote:
> Where can I find the master code for my home alarm system (DCS-1500)?
>
> I recently purchased a rental property that has a home security
> system. I want to activate the system but I don’t know the pass code.
> Isn't there a master programming code that I can use to reset the
> whole thing?
Wow, you really did your research before you bought this property,
didn't you?
JoeRaisin
> Where can I find the master code for my home alarm system (DCS-1500)?
>
> I recently purchased a rental property that has a home security
> Isn't there a master programming code that I can use to reset the
> whole thing?
> Posted from the Free Home Improvement Forum at http://www.spicyhome.com
Unless someone from the company that installed the system is on this
forum, there is no way anyone here can know that info. Any decent
installer will have changed the defaults.
Besides, without knowing what you are doing, jumping into programming
without a guide could get you a system that is worse than useless.
See if there are any stickers on the panel, possibly on any of the doors
or windows or maybe a yard sign with the name and number of the
servicing company. If you can get in touch with the previous owners
maybe they can tell you who to call.
If not, check out the local operators (try to avoid the nationals) with
the BBB and and give one of those guys a call.
It won't be free and I'm sure they will try to get you on board with
monitoring. But you should actually check out how much the monitoring
is against how much it may save you on homeowners insurance - you may
find it isn't that expensive in the long run.
A monitored fire system, along with low temperature sensing (in certain
areas - check local listings) and strategically placed water detector
(water damage is a real mother and insurance companies will usually do
whatever they can to avoid paying for it) or two, in a house that will
be used by tenets who may not care about the property as much as you do,
could be just what you need for piece of mind and perhaps a cut on the
insurance (I get 15% from my company).
Frank Olson
> Where can I find the master code for my home alarm system (DCS-1500)?
>
> I recently purchased a rental property that has a home security
> Isn't there a master programming code that I can use to reset the
> whole thing?
> Posted from the Free Home Improvement Forum at http://www.spicyhome.com
There is a method of defaulting the board, but you'll have to reprogram
it from scratch and you haven't indicated as to whether you have the
programming manual or not. First you have to find out if the board has
been "locked". Disconnect the battery and AC transformer (in that
order). Wait for 30 seconds and reconnect the AC. If you hear a series
of "clicks" from the onboard relay, the board is locked and the only way
to access programming is by knowing the installer code. If the relay
doesn't click multiple times, you can default the board. The procedure
is in the installation manual which you will need to reprogram the
system anyway.
The 1500 is ancient technology. You should consider upgrading to a
newer system. Stick with DSC if you're considering the DIY route. It's
one of the easiest panels to program. Find a friendly local alarm
company that's willing to sell you a DSC 1832. You'll need new keypads
as well. You can browse DSC's website at http://www.dsc.com. You can
also purchase the system from any of a number of online stores and
dealers. http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/buyingonline.htm has some
valuable tips and a couple of links to online dealers.
Good luck!!!
Robert L Bass
"JoeRaisin" <joer...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Joe's advice is correct. However, most local (and virtually all national)
alarm companies will decline to work on the system unless you sign a
multi-year monitoring contract. The terms and prices vary wildly from one
provider to the next fir essentially similar services so shop around a bit.
Regarding breaks in homeowner's insurance, the discount is usually nn% of the
burglary or fire coverage -- not the whole package. For example, our
homeowner's policy costs around $8,000 a year. The 10% discount for an alarm
system isn't 10% of $8,000. It's 10% of $800, or $80. Monitoring by any of
the local outfits around Sarasota would run about $300 a year. A colleague,
www.911Alarm.com, charges $12 a month. Net cost is $64 per year.
One thing you need to be especially careful about if you have an alarm company
service and/or monitor the system for you is that pesky lockout code (the same
one you're having trouble with at present). Most alarm companies use them to
make it more difficult / costly for customers to switch service providers.
Some will give you the code or default it for you for a price once you pay for
nn years of monitoring. Others won't give you the code, even to equipment
which you own, no matter what you do.
If you like to tinker you might want to consider buying a control panel and
doing the job yourself. It's not particularly difficult though you'll need a
modicum of tool skills and a bit of patience to get the hang of it. If that's
not your idea of a fun way to spend a Saturday, take Joe's advice and check
out a few local alarm dealers. Ask neighbors who they use and how they like
the service. Either way, best of luck.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Mark Leuck
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Robert L Bass
>
> Did you look under the couch?
Hmm. I thought you didn't like posts that aren't helpful, useful and
on-topic.
Frank Olson
> Joe's advice is correct. However, most local (and virtually all
> national) alarm companies will decline to work on the system unless you
> sign a multi-year monitoring contract. The terms and prices vary wildly
> from one provider to the next fir essentially similar services so shop
> around a bit.
On the contrary... most *local* dealers aren't going to turn down a
service call as long as the customer is willing to "pony up". Count on
a two hour minimum charge and make sure you understand exactly what that
is going to be (inclusive of any "fuel surcharges") *before* you order
service.
>
> Regarding breaks in homeowner's insurance, the discount is usually nn%
> of the burglary or fire coverage -- not the whole package. For example,
> our homeowner's policy costs around $8,000 a year. The 10% discount for
> an alarm system isn't 10% of $8,000. It's 10% of $800, or $80.
> Monitoring by any of the local outfits around Sarasota would run about
> $300 a year. A colleague, www.911Alarm.com, charges $12 a month. Net
> cost is $64 per year.
I would imagine the cost of your insurance is so high because of the
recent losses the various insurers have had to cover because of the
hurricanes that frequent your area. Wow... That really sucks (pardon
the pun).
>
> One thing you need to be especially careful about if you have an alarm
> company service and/or monitor the system for you is that pesky lockout
> code (the same one you're having trouble with at present). Most alarm
> companies use them to make it more difficult / costly for customers to
> switch service providers.
Actually, the reason alarm companies use a unique installer code on a
monitored alarm panel is to prevent an unathorized (untrained)
individual from compromising the system. It has to do with the
liability aspects involved, and has no "nefarious" or underhanded
reason. In fact, most alarm companies will release the panel if you
decide you no longer wish it to be monitored and want to use it as a
"local" system (as long as you *own* the equipment and don't owe them
any money).
> Some will give you the code or default it for
> you for a price once you pay for nn years of monitoring. Others won't
> give you the code, even to equipment which you own, no matter what you do.
Again... that depends on whether or not you "own" the equipment (or owe
them money). Brinks (for instance) doesn't sell alarm panels (so they
say) so any panel with their sticker on it actually *belongs* to them.
They also won't program it as a "local system", but will insist on
recovering the equipment if you don't decide to employ their monitoring
service.
>
> If you like to tinker you might want to consider buying a control panel
> and doing the job yourself. It's not particularly difficult though
> you'll need a modicum of tool skills and a bit of patience to get the
> hang of it. If that's not your idea of a fun way to spend a Saturday,
> take Joe's advice and check out a few local alarm dealers. Ask
> neighbors who they use and how they like the service. Either way, best
> of luck.
>
Either way, it's better to deal with a local alarm dealer (if you can
find a "friendly" one) that will sell you just the equipment. Don't
expect them to honour the warranty if you decide to power up the system
after you do all the connections. I'd suggest doing the swap, and
terminating all the devices then pay the dealer the $100.00 to come out
and power it up for you. He'll ensure you've done everything correctly
and will then be in a position to replace anything you've purchased from
him (under warranty). Warranty claims are extremely difficult to
process if you've bought the equipment "online". In fact, most
wholesalers and manufacturers won't deal with end users directly (but
only through a recognized dealer).
My best advice is to buy an upgraded panel (as I suggested in my
previous response) and don't bother "fiddling" with that PC-1500. Jim
Rojas (at www.tech-man.com) will probably take it off your hands. :-)
Mark Leuck
"Robert L Bass" <Rober...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Mark Leuck" wrote:
>>
>> Did you look under the couch?
>
> Hmm. I thought you didn't like posts that aren't helpful, useful and
> on-topic.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
I don't recall asking him anything about motorcycles do you?
Doug
"dallasalarm" <dalla...@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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The default master code will be in the installation manual. If the default
master code has been changed then you will need to default the entire panel
and reprogram the system from scratch. If the lock out feature hasn't been
enabled then defaulting the panel is a straightforward procedure. If the
panel really is a DSC 1500 and not a DSC 1550 then I'm not sure if it even
had an installers lockout feature.
Doug
Sallie
In Texas it's 10% and written into legislation, so if you;re paying
$2000.00 a year for homeowners, you get a real 10% which is $200.
If you want to fuck things up, do it yourself but realize that you'll
eventually pay.
DSC1500? No parts, no support because it's a bit old, although it's
probably a 1550. Still, no parts, no support.
Robert L Bass
>
> I don't recall asking him anything about motorcycles do you?
Have you never posted about recumbent bicycles?
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Robert L Bass
>
> And it just so happens this guy hawks alarm equipment.
Does it also just so happen you hawk installed systems? Monitoring? I'm just
curious.
> In Texas it's 10% and written into legislation, so if you;re paying
> $2000.00 a year for homeowners, you get a real 10% which is $200.
I'd love to pay only $2,000 per year for homeowner's insurance.
> If you want to fuck things up, do it yourself but realize that you'll
> eventually pay.
If you *really* want to &*^% things up, vote Republican.
> DSC1500? No parts, no support because it's a bit old, although it's
> probably a 1550. Still, no parts, no support.
So the gentleman has a 1550. It can be upgraded if need be. However, if he
can find a way to get the code he can easily get the manual from Jim Rojas.
If not, he has a choice -- go with a professional or DIY. The deciding
factors should be his ability or willingness to do it (the work is pretty
simple) vs. the simpler solution which is to let someone else do it for him.
No big deal either way.
Robert L Bass
>
> The default master code will be in the installation manual. If the default
> master code has been changed then you will need to default the entire panel
> and reprogram the system from scratch. If the lock out feature hasn't been
> enabled then defaulting the panel is a straightforward procedure. If the
> panel really is a DSC 1500 and not a DSC 1550 then I'm not sure if it even
> had an installers lockout feature.
The first thing the gentleman needs is the correct manual. He can get that
from Jim Rojas or I can send him one if he wants. Jim stores tens of
thousands of manuals on tech-man.com. I keep a few hundred of the more
frequently requested ones around in case a client needs one. I don't charge
for manuals. Although Jim's site is a pay site, I think he'll send a free
copy to a homeowner if the gentleman requests one.
Sallie
people DIY. Most are cheap bastards that piss and moan when they have
to eventually pay the going rate for someone to come in and clean up
their mess.
Besides, if the guy wound up hitting this newsgroup on recommendation,
he doesn't have a DIY clue.
Here's a hint - - why not go to the manufacturer's web site?
Plenty of places that you're not overcharged for insurance.
Unless you're pretty well to do to start off, or you like seeing old
motion picture actors, voting republican won't help.
Rojas? I heard he took a managers job with Brinks in Florida!
Unfortunately the job won't last. He'll be out when they find out he
knows what he's doing and the pay that he won't get equals $25,000.
Sallie
Robert L Bass
>
> I hawk stuff, but other than changing a battery, I don't suggest people
I understand. If they DIY they don't have to pay you to do it for them. No
problem. I sell direct to DIYers so of course I do suggest that *some* people
DIY. Every so often I speak with someone who seems unable to handle the work.
When that happens I suggest they hire a pro. That's not to common, mind you.
Installing and servicing burglar alarms is fairly simple stuff.
> Most are cheap bastards that piss and moan when they have to eventually pay
> the going rate for someone to come in and clean up their mess.
We must be dealing with two different segments of the population. I find that
most people interested in DIY do so because they enjoy the challenge. Some
are only looking to save money but that's not a bad thing unless they happen
to be saving by not paying you, right? :^)
> Besides, if the guy wound up hitting this newsgroup on recommendation, he
> doesn't have a DIY clue.
The newsgroup is called ALT.SECURITY.ALARMS. To someone looking for
information on security alarms this would seem a logical place to start.
However, I prefer they search [blatant plug] --> www.BassHome.com. <--
[blatant plug]
> Here's a hint - - why not go to the manufacturer's web site?
You think the manufacturer will help the gentleman? IME, most alarm cturers
refuse to assist end users. They prefer the user go either to an alarm dealer
or shop online, as long as the customer buys something without bothering them.
> Plenty of places that you're not overcharged for insurance.
It may have something to do with the value of the home.
> Unless you're pretty well to do to start off, or you like seeing old motion
> picture actors, voting republican won't help.
Heh, heh, heh. We certainly agree there.
> Rojas? I heard he took a managers job with Brinks in Florida!
> Unfortunately the job won't last. He'll be out when they find out he
> knows what he's doing and the pay that he won't get equals $25,000.
Manager? I never met a Brinks manager. Do they actually supervise stuff?
Crash Gordon
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Doug
"Robert L Bass" <> wrote in message news:kck7k.2527$gE.1233@trnddc07...
> "Doug" wrote:
>>
>> The default master code will be in the installation manual. If the
>> default master code has been changed then you will need to default the
>> entire panel and reprogram the system from scratch. If the lock out
>> feature hasn't been enabled then defaulting the panel is a
>> straightforward procedure. If the panel really is a DSC 1500 and not a
>> DSC 1550 then I'm not sure if it even had an installers lockout feature.
>
> The first thing the gentleman needs is the correct manual. He can get
> that from Jim Rojas. Jim stores tens of thousands of manuals on
> tech-man.com. Although Jim's site is a pay site, I think he'll send a
> free copy to a homeowner if the gentleman requests one.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> ==============================>
> http://www.bassburgIaraIarms.com
> ==============================>
Since the Tyco suits have apparently warned Jim not to offer any DSC, ADT or
any other Tyco owned brand manuals on his website, its probably not a good
idea for him to send anyone a copy.
Doug
Crash Gordon
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>
> I'd love to pay only $2,000 per year for homeowner's insurance.
Yea but look at how much you paid for the house...
Mark Leuck
> "Mark Leuck" wrote:
>>
>> I don't recall asking him anything about motorcycles do you?
>
> Have you never posted about recumbent bicycles?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
Once or twice although if I recall I never carried out a conversation here
with it
Mark Leuck
The PC1550 was the v3 model of the 1500 wasn't it? If so it did have the
lockout feature
Doug
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> Tyco suits?
>
>
>
>
> --
> **Crash Gordon**
http://www.tech-man.com/tyco.asp?manualID=1389
Doug
Doug
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> Tyco suits?
>
>
>
>
> --
> **Crash Gordon**
>
I actually meant it as a slang term as in
Slang: a person wearing a suit; specif., a business executive or a
bureaucrat: usually a term of mild derision
not as a lawsuit, but given Jim's problems with Brinks and their (law)suits,
reading my post again I can see it was probably a poor choice of words.
Doug
Robert L Bass
>
> Since the Tyco suits have apparently warned Jim not to offer any DSC, ADT or
> any other Tyco owned brand manuals on his website, its probably not a good
> idea for him to send anyone a copy.
That's too bad. Jim's a nice guy and the leadership of Tyco aren't.
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Robert L Bass
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>
> Once or twice although if I recall I never carried out a conversation here
> with it
You've carried on hundreds of OT conversations. Be honest for once. Your
whine had nothing to do with posts being OT.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Robert L Bass
>
> The PC1550 was the v3 model of the 1500 wasn't it? If so it did have the
> lockout feature
To reset the Installer's code to 1500
Power up the panel. Short the "default" pins. Enter 80000. Remove the short.
Enter 91. Enter 20 1500 ##.
Russell Brill
starting to show...... Hint: YOU CAN'T SUE YOUR WAY OUT OF A SLOW
QUARTER.........
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> "Mark Leuck" <mle...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Once or twice although if I recall I never carried out a conversation
>> here with it
>
> You've carried on hundreds of OT conversations. Be honest for once. Your
> whine had nothing to do with posts being OT.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
I don't think I'm the one doing the whining here
Mark Leuck
company is getting
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Mark Leuck
I wonder if that really is a result of the Paradox/DSC lawsuit
Doug
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Being as I'm the undisputed official ASA whiner I feel uniquely qualified to
comment on this, and after giving it some considerable and totally
impartial thought, I have to agree with Mark in this instance
Doug
Mark Leuck
> "Mark Leuck" wrote:
>>
>> The PC1550 was the v3 model of the 1500 wasn't it? If so it did have the
>> lockout feature
>
>
> To reset the Installer's code to 1500
> Power up the panel. Short the "default" pins. Enter 80000. Remove the
> short. Enter 91. Enter 20 1500 ##.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
1. That doesn't change the fact it has a lockout feature
2, Thank you for telling me this since I was the one who originally posted
it here
3. Your method won't work
4.
Doug
Being as I'm the undisputed official ASA whiner I feel uniquely qualified to
Doug
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> Doug wrote:
>
>>
>>Being as I'm the undisputed official ASA whiner I feel uniquely qualified
>>to
>>comment on this, and after giving it some considerable and totally
>>impartial thought, I have to agree with Mark in this instance
>
> You must *strongly agree* since you posted it twice.
>
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> Study: Most Children Strongly Opposed To Childrens Healthcare
> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/study_most_children_strongly
I did that in an attempt to stop you whining about the -- that I left at the
top of the first post
Doug
Russell Brill
is now offering a $99 package again, that's a price range they were looking
to get out of a couple of years ago when biz was booming...
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Sam
Mark Leuck
downloading of ADT manuals?
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Russell Brill
all Indians, "Plug all holes in the dam ASAP, anything that looks like a
hole (Jim) plug it too.
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Crash Gordon
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Robert L Bass
>> Power up the panel. Short the "default" pins. Enter 80000. Remove the
>> short. Enter 91. Enter 20 1500 ##.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert L Bass
>
> 1. That doesn't change the fact it has a lockout feature
I didn't say it would. The real question isn't whether there's a lockout
feature. It is whether the lockout has been implemented.
> 2, Thank you for telling me this since I was the one who originally posted
> it here
I wasn't telling you. This is Usenet -- not a private conversation.
> 3. Your method won't work
It's not my method or yours. It's DSC's method.
> 4.
4.01 So what?
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Frank Olson
No. It's only another corporate giant trying to protect their
"intellectual property".
Frank Olson
> Sheesh.
>
>
>
You can say *that* two times!!
Frank Olson
>> 3. Your method won't work
>
> It's not my method or yours. It's DSC's method.
No actually... It's not. But then I'm only a "counter clerk". What do
I know?? :-)
Mark Leuck
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Mark Leuck
>>> To reset the Installer's code to 1500
>>> Power up the panel. Short the "default" pins. Enter 80000. Remove the
>>> short. Enter 91. Enter 20 1500 ##.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Robert L Bass
>>
>> 1. That doesn't change the fact it has a lockout feature
>
> I didn't say it would. The real question isn't whether there's a lockout
> feature. It is whether the lockout has been implemented.
>
>> 2, Thank you for telling me this since I was the one who originally
>> posted it here
>
> I wasn't telling you. This is Usenet -- not a private conversation.
>
>> 3. Your method won't work
>
> It's not my method or yours. It's DSC's method.
>
>> 4.
>
> 4.01 So what?
Since you appear to be a little dense tonight I'll rephrase it
3. The method you show won't work, it's also not DSC's method
Bob La Londe
>> Rojas? I heard he took a managers job with Brinks in Florida!
>> Unfortunately the job won't last. He'll be out when they find out he
>> knows what he's doing and the pay that he won't get equals $25,000.
>
> Manager? I never met a Brinks manager. Do they actually supervise stuff?
Actually I heard it was ADT, and they agreed to pay him off shore to a
numbered Kayman Islands account just to piss of Brinks.
Robert L Bass
>
> Actually I heard it was ADT, and they agreed to pay him off shore to a
> numbered Kayman Islands account just to piss of Brinks.
I sort of doubt they'll ever see any money from the lawsuit but their
objective wasn't to get money out of him. The purpose seems to have been to
scare off other potential infringers. If that is the case, they already got
what they wanted.
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Robert L Bass
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Frank Olson
> "Bob La Londe" wrote:
>>
>> Actually I heard it was ADT, and they agreed to pay him off shore to a
>> numbered Kayman Islands account just to piss of Brinks.
>
> I sort of doubt they'll ever see any money from the lawsuit but their
> objective wasn't to get money out of him. The purpose seems to have
> been to scare off other potential infringers. If that is the case, they
> already got what they wanted.
>
I disagree. They accomplished less than nothing since their Judgment
was a "default one". They didn't establish their IP (indeed probably
couldn't have if Jim had played it right)...
Bob La Londe
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Actually while they did not establish a good quality precedent to use in
future court cases I suspect that a number of people here have been
intimidated by their bullying tactics.
Jim
> Actually while they did not establish a good quality precedent to use in
> future court cases I suspect that a number of people here have been
> intimidated by their bullying tactics.-
Actually all of what they did, provides me with a little porfolio of
information which I will freely show to anyone who even considers
watching a Brinks commercial on TV. Anytime a prospect mentions the
TV adds, I bring out some of the posts that were made here and show
them what kind of companys advertise on TV. I use them as a prime
example of how they are going to be screwed and how willing they are
to protect their right to screw people who are dumb enough to sign
their agreements.
That is, if Brinks is picky enough to go after a little guy down in
Florida who sells their old discarded equipment because it's leased to
all of their customers, just imagine what they'd do to the customer
who decided they didn't like the service they were getting from them.
I feel bad that it was at the expense of Jim, but that was beyond my
control and I think everyone else in the industry should benefit from
it as much as possible.
I have and as far as I can tell, no customer that I've shown the
information to has gone with Brinks or any National company.
Yesssssssssssss! You can't get a better testimonial about how bad a
company can be than if it's actually from the actions of the company
itself.
THANK YOU BINKY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crash Gordon
Actually it's really easy selling against any of the big boys.
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**Crash Gordon**
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> ...Actually it's really easy selling against any of the big boys.
Over 30 years ago when I was first getting started I was a little intimidated
by the nationals. I was working by myself, had little sales experience and
used to dress in jeans and polo shirts. Every so often I'd cross paths with
an ADT salesman. They had cars with their national logo, wore suits and
looked very impressive. It wasn't until a few clients told me some of the
dumb stuff these guys would say and the woefully inadequate systems they
offered that I realized how easy they were to beat.