gone independent, need sources
Nathan W. Collier
some of you may remember me as a brinks home security dealer. without going
on an anti-brinks tirade, ill just say that i left the brinks program (prior
to the name change) when their business structure no longer matched my own.
my focus is primarily on physical security, but i do not want to get out of
electronic security all-together. i am seeking a real online distributor
from which to obtain quality alarm components. all i have found online i
can find cheaper on ebay and would prefer an actual distributor with a good
reputation and fair pricing.
in addition, despite the simplicity for various reasons i have always
avoided wireless systems. i have an opportunity to install 25 all wireless
systems for a local builder. specs call for a controller, keypad,
door/window sensors, motion detectors, and glass break detectors in all
downstairs rooms. i need recommendations on available brands/types, the
benefits/limitations of each, and a source from which to order them. also,
are there still wireless components that plug into 115v outlets?
thanks much.
--
Nathan In Montana
http://CarryGuide.com
http://BighornTactical.com
Effenpig1
> are there still wireless components that plug into 115v outlets?
Is this a serious question?
Nathan W. Collier
news:ebe3bdfd-fac5-4813...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> are there still wireless components that plug into 115v outlets?
> Is this a serious question?
absolutely. i have qualified that i have avoided wireless installs.and am
therefore out of date with what is currently available. i can remember back
in the 80s there was a wireless system available that utilized glass break
sensors that you simply plugged into any wall outlet thus eliminating the
need for batteries (other than the built-in backup battery). i _want_ to
say it was called "watchdog" systems but i cannot be certain because it has
been so long. i have not used ANY wireless equipment other than BHS so i am
not familiar with what is available today.
thank you,
mleuck
yup he's a Brinks guy!
Nathan W. Collier
news:915f4537-87a2-4406...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
before you continue to make an ignorant ass of yourself, perhaps you should
do a little research on older alarm technology.
Effenpig1
> "mleuck" <m.le...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
It's not that I question the existence of this equipment, it's the
fact that it never was, and never will be, something to be considered
actual "security" equipment.
>i have an opportunity to install 25 all wireless
>systems for a local builder. specs call for a controller, keypad,
>door/window sensors, motion detectors, and glass break detectors in all
>downstairs rooms. i need recommendations on available brands/types, the
>benefits/limitations of each, and a source from which to order them. also,
>are there still wireless components that plug into 115v outlets?
I think you would be doing yourself, and especially your potential
client, a great disservice by accepting this type of work until you
have gained some experience in the field. You might want to consider a
tech position with a security company that utilizes modern wireless
equipment in order to learn the ropes. I am not trying to be rude,
it's just a suggestion, but your question itself shows an general lack
of knowledge in the area of wireless technology.
Seriously, to ask for a information on what is available, and details
about wireless equipment, so you can secure a bid for 25 systems using
equipment you are unfamiliar with? This has the makings of a bad
situation written all over it.
I would hope you would take what I have written as genuine advice from
someone who has seen the results of such undertakings, and not just
someone trying to "flame" you. Accepting a 25 system job using
equipment you are not familiar with is NOT getting your new venture
off on the right foot. Sorry.
Nathan W. Collier
>It's not that I question the existence of this equipment, it's the
>fact that it never was, and never will be, something to be considered
>actual "security" equipment.
agreed. this is why i have avoided wireless systems this long. that said,
im not venturing into a new field i am simply adding wireless by request of
a very good customer. i have made my best effort to sell him on letting us
hardwire these systems but its not negotiable. i have worked with adding
receivers and transmitters to existing panels (for adding keyfobs) i have
simply preferred to hardware all sensors. any input on equipment would
truly be appreciated.
thanks,
--
Frank Olson
Nathan:
Tried, and ADI sell to dealers "on line". There are a number of other
alarm distributors that offer online ordering and account tracking. I
think these are your best choices.
Good luck with your new venture!
Nathan W. Collier
news:SMDZm.95167$We2....@newsfe09.iad...
> Tried, and ADI sell to dealers "on line". There are a number of other
> alarm distributors that offer online ordering and account tracking. I
> think these are your best choices.
>
> Good luck with your new venture!
many thanks frank. its been awhile, im glad to see there are still a few of
the old timers (in regards to length of participation in asa) still around!
nick markowitz
> "Frank Olson" <use_the_email_li...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
Do yourself an even bigger favor and walk away from this home builder.
Home Builders are notorious for not paying there subs. Especially if
these are spec homes I have seen too many contractors ruined by home
builders who stiffed them.
unless you get at 2/3 up front forget it.
Robert L Bass
>
> Do yourself an even bigger favor and walk away from this home builder. Home
That's very true. Most of the time those "opportunities" turn out to be nothing
but a waste. Whatever you choose, welcome back and good luck.
--
Regards,
Robert L Bass
==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
DIY Alarm and Home Automation Store
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================>
Jim
>
> Do yourself an even bigger favor and walk away from this home builder.
> Home Builders are notorious for not paying there subs. Especially if
> these are spec homes I have seen too many contractors ruined by home
> builders who stiffed them.
> unless you get at 2/3 up front forget it.
And why would a builder request wireless ........... anyway?
Nathan W. Collier
news:3fea3c40-c210-4075...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 27, 2:27 am, "Nathan W. Collier" <n...@way.nope> wrote:
> Home Builders are notorious for not paying there subs.
hello,
this particular builder also owns several dozen commercial properties that
we maintain (my primary business is http://BighornRefrigeration.com) for a
gross average of around $75,000 a year. he has remained loyal for several
years even when we bid higher on capital equipment projects (i have never
tried to be the cheapest game in town, only the best game in town) and
always pays his bill without trying to haggle on every job like some i have
worked for in the past. payment is a non-issue. that said, because he has
been such a good customer it is important that i sell him quality systems.
while i still do not like wireless he has made it clear that going wireless
is non-neogtiable and if im going with wireless anyway at the very least i
want to use _good_ wireless components.
all this in mind, any equipment recommendations you could make would be
sincerely appreciated.
thanks,
Nathan W. Collier
news:3Ludncr7kPqY4KrW...@giganews.com...
>Whatever you choose, welcome back and good luck.
thank you, sir. glad to see your health iimproving.
JoeRaisin
ITI has good wireless systems.
I have worked extensively with First Alert branded Ademco/Honeywell
equipment and have not had too many issues. Biggest problem I've seen
is that repeaters cannot be daisy-chained like the ITI stuff.
I'm also curious as to why the builder INSISTS on wireless.
Around here it's usually an attempt at an end-around permits as the
inspectors don't see the wiring during the rough-in inspections and trim
out only occurs after occupancy has been granted. Then again, here only
the fire equipment and wiring gets inspected.
Nathan W. Collier
news:hh8731$k7e$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> ITI has good wireless systems.
>
> I have worked extensively with First Alert branded Ademco/Honeywell
> equipment and have not had too many issues. Biggest problem I've seen is
> that repeaters cannot be daisy-chained like the ITI stuff.
many thanks. from where do you prefer to purchase both?
> I'm also curious as to why the builder INSISTS on wireless.
i am not aware of his reasons as i didnt push him for more after he stated
it was non-negotiable. were he not such a dependable customer in my primary
business i would most likely walk away from the job because of my prejudices
against wireless systems.
thanks again,
Jim Rojas
I use the Honeywell wireless products on just about all apartment, and
condo installs. Don't count on any discounts from ADI. I buy all my
alarm products on the web for 50-75 percent less.
Jim Rojas
Nathan W. Collier
From: "Jim Rojas" <jro...@tech-man.com>
Newsgroups: alt.security.alarms
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: gone independent, need sources
> I use the Honeywell wireless products on just about all apartment, and
> condo installs. Don't count on any discounts from ADI. I buy all my alarm
> products on the web for 50-75 percent less.
thank you for the information. can you share your sources for this
equipment?
Effenpig1
> "Effenpig1" <dirtyspicev...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:98e24760-5fff-4e8b...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >It's not that I question the existence of this equipment, it's the
> >fact that it never was, and never will be, something to be considered
> >actual "security" equipment.
>
> agreed. this is why i have avoided wireless systems this long. that said,
> im not venturing into a new field i am simply adding wireless by request of
> a very good customer. i have made my best effort to sell him on letting us
> hardwire these systems but its not negotiable. i have worked with adding
> receivers and transmitters to existing panels (for adding keyfobs) i have
> simply preferred to hardware all sensors. any input on equipment would
> truly be appreciated.
There you go then, just use the equipment you already have experience
with adding keyfobs and receiver to. Modern wireless is great,
although I always prefer wired motions over wireless.
Effenpig1
Did a Home Builder beat you as a child or something?
Nathan W. Collier
On Dec 27, 2:02 am, "Nathan W. Collier" <n...@way.nope> wrote:
hardware recommendations (including sources/distributors) certianly
ABLE1
"Nathan W. Collier" <n...@way.nope> wrote in message >> Modern wireless is
>
> hardware recommendations (including sources/distributors) certianly
> appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan In Montana
> http://CarryGuide.com
> http://BighornTactical.com
Nathan,
You have been given sources/distributors but you are not
satisfied................................
Please Google these ADI
Tri-Ed
Eastern Distribution
Alarmax
First Action
and get phone numbers and start making calls, set up your dealer account,
ask for terms or use a credit card.
As for equipment please Google these GE Security Networx (ITI)
Ademco
DSC
Napco
Ask whatever distributor that is favorable to you what product they carry
and get hold of the mfg rep. Find out what works for your project, quote a
price to your builder/friend (don't forget to add in profit). Get a
signature on a contract and 50% down, buy the equipment, learn how to
install, program, set up and test. Collect your balance due and get on to
the next job.
How difficult could it all be??
Now if you would like me to design the system layout, spec out the
equipment, order the equipment, have it drop shipped to you on site, I will
need to have conversation with your builder/friend to get him to provide me
with drawings of the buildings and what security level he is looking to pay
for or would desire. I will then provide you with a cost of equipment and
my services that must be paid in full before delivery of equipment.
If you pay by check there will be a 15 day waiting period. However, if you
make payment to my PayPal account the equipment will be enroute to you with
in 48 hours. Please let me know how you want to proceed.
BTW if you would to hire me for my services please be advised I will not be
available for technical support. That is why the manufactures have a Tech
Support Dept.
I wish you all the luck in your new adventure, and hope all goes well and
profitable for you.
Have a Happy New Year!!!
Les
Robert L Bass
>
> And why would a builder request wireless ........... anyway?
I was wondering the same thing, Jim. Perhaps the subject only came to mind
after the drywall was finished. Other than that it doesn't make much sense.
Then again, how much does make sense these days? :^)
Robert L Bass
>
> hardware recommendations (including sources/distributors)
> certianly appreciated.
Nate,
I have a huge assortment of hard-wired as well as wireless components in my
online store. As a dealer of course you would order from the same places I do
but feel free to browse my site for information on much of what's currently
being used in the trade. If you're interested in anything in particular let me
know and I'll give you the supplier's contact information.
mleuck
I once had a builder tell the customer they prewired the house for a
wireless system, it was rather funny
Nathan W. Collier
news:IyWZm.453767$Jp1.3...@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
> You have been given sources/distributors but you are not
> satisfied................................
dont get the wrong idea. its not that im "not satisified"; i am simply
seeking as many sources as possible as well as many informed opinions and
preferences as possible.
> Please Google these ADI
> Tri-Ed
> Eastern Distribution
> Alarmax
> First Action
would ADI that several have referenced be adilink.com or
alarmdistributors.com? both call themselves ADI.
> As for equipment please Google these GE Security Networx (ITI)
> Ademco
> DSC
> Napco
thank you, this is certainly prove useful.
--
Nathan In Montana
http://CarryGuide.com
http://BighornTactical.com
>
Frank Olson
That all depends on how much they charged the guy for wireless wire.
And whether it was "shielded" or not. :-)
Effenpig1
Eastern Distributing is now "Edist"
Anyway, If the job is bid right, 50% down should cover all your costs,
and anything more should be pure profit. (I'm a whore, I know, I know)
Robert L Bass
news:Nuydncttc_6xCarW...@bresnan.com...
>
> --- snip stuff about good client worth doing job for ---
>
> all this in mind, any equipment recommendations you could make would be
> sincerely appreciated.
OK, in that case, take a look at Napco's wireless. Their stuff lasts forever
without much service. ITI's wireless has always enjoyed a strong reputation
though with GE Security selling the whole kit and kaboodle to UTC, there's no
way to know which, if any of their lines will still exist a year from now.
Honeywell wireless is OK but service ate ADI leaves somewhat to be desired and
prices are outrageous unless you buy *lots* from them. Getting started afressh,
even if they know you from before, they'll charge you top dollar.
Tri-Ed gives good service and will try to beat most competitors' prices.
Systems Depot has nice people but they make a lot of order processing errors.
Northern Video will beat anyone and everyone's prices but they don't stock as
much as dedicated security distributors do.
Robert L Bass
And whether he grounded the wireless rough-in boxes.
Frank Olson
Yeah... most especially the plastic ones.
Effenpig1
> > messagenews:5a7_m.120005$gg6....@newsfe25.iad...
Speaking of which, does anyone know where I can buy plastic ground
screws in bulk?
Crash Gordon
with...I'd wire a new home not use wireless.
--
**Crash Gordon**
"nick markowitz" <nmark...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Crash Gordon
help to bring you up to date...a little.
--
**Crash Gordon**
"Nathan W. Collier" <n...@way.nope> wrote in message
news:vpmdncxpSMzhm6rW...@bresnan.com...
> "Effenpig1" <dirtysp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:98e24760-5fff-4e8b...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>It's not that I question the existence of this equipment, it's the
>>fact that it never was, and never will be, something to be considered
>>actual "security" equipment.
>
> agreed. this is why i have avoided wireless systems this long. that
> said, im not venturing into a new field i am simply adding wireless by
> request of a very good customer. i have made my best effort to sell him
> on letting us hardwire these systems but its not negotiable. i have
> worked with adding receivers and transmitters to existing panels (for
> adding keyfobs) i have simply preferred to hardware all sensors. any
> input on equipment would truly be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
Spellcheck Patrol
> hello,
> some of you may remember me as a brinks home security dealer. without going
> on an anti-brinks tirade, ill just say that i left the brinks program (prior
> to the name change) when their business structure no longer matched my own.
>
> my focus is primarily on physical security, but i do not want to get out of
> electronic security all-together. i am seeking a real online distributor
> from which to obtain quality alarm components. all i have found online i
> can find cheaper on ebay and would prefer an actual distributor with a good
> reputation and fair pricing.
>
> in addition, despite the simplicity for various reasons i have always
> avoided wireless systems. i have an opportunity to install 25 all wireless
> systems for a local builder. specs call for a controller, keypad,
> door/window sensors, motion detectors, and glass break detectors in all
> downstairs rooms. i need recommendations on available brands/types, the
> benefits/limitations of each, and a source from which to order them. also,
> are there still wireless components that plug into 115v outlets?
>
> thanks much.
> --
> Nathan In Montanahttp://CarryGuide.comhttp://BighornTactical.com <
Congrats on the wise business choice, Nate. I dumped Brinks a few
months after they hired that douchebag Garrido to replace Clark.
The transition is easier than you think. When I get a free moment I'll
send across as much info as I can.
JoeRaisin
> "Jim" wrote:
>>
>> And why would a builder request wireless ........... anyway?
>
> I was wondering the same thing, Jim. Perhaps the subject only came to
> mind after the drywall was finished. Other than that it doesn't make
> much sense. Then again, how much does make sense these days? :^)
>
I still think it's a permit dodge
Effenpig1
There are certain jobs that can be better done with a wireless sensor,
but I will always hard-wire as much as possible. You can only guess
the reasoning behind the wireless request, did you explain that it
will still have wires?
I used to do some installs of point to point wireless internet. I
would ask these people were they wanted the wire run, and it never
ceased to amaze me how many people looked at me like I was an idiot
and said, " I thought this was wireless"
Robert L Bass
>
>> Please Google these ADI
>> Tri-Ed
>> Eastern Distribution
>> Alarmax
>> First Action
>
> would ADI that several have referenced be adilink.com or
> alarmdistributors.com? both call themselves ADI.
ADI is ADILINK. ALARMDISTRIBUTORS is someone else.
Alarmax are decent people.
Tri-ed, like every other distributor has had occasional problems but they do
good work.
I'm not familiar with First Action and I have not dealt with Eastern
Distribution.
Bob La Londe
> "Jim" wrote:
>>
>> And why would a builder request wireless ........... anyway?
>
> I was wondering the same thing, Jim. Perhaps the subject only came to
> mind after the drywall was finished. Other than that it doesn't make much
> sense. Then again, how much does make sense these days? :^)
I have seen an alarm company offer a cheap "prewire for wireless alarm"
package to builders. It would be quick. Phone, power, siren, keypad.,
done.
Bob La Londe
> Tri-Ed gives good service
They do not. I get treated poorly by them, and they make a fair number of
mistakes.
> and will try to beat most competitors' prices.
The only reason I still have an account with them is price.
> Systems Depot has nice people but they make a lot of order processing
> errors.
Have not experienced that, but I don't do that much business with them.
That may change though.
> Northern Video will beat anyone and everyone's prices but they don't stock
> as much as dedicated security distributors do.
And a lot of lines they just do not have.
--
Sincerely,
Robert (Bob) J La Londe III
The Security Consultant
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366
Licensed Communications Contractor
Serving Yuma Since 1994
Commercial & Residentail
ROC103044 & ROC103047
(928) 782-9765 Voice
(928) 782-7873 Fax
alarm_...@hotmail.com
^ underscore
Robert L Bass
>
>> Tri-Ed gives good service
>
> They do not. I get treated poorly by them, and they make a fair number of
> mistakes.
I don't doubt you, Bob. Mayb it varies with the location. I've had good
service locally from them. Clearly, you have not and I think you may have said
so in an earlier thread.
>> and will try to beat most competitors' prices.
>
> The only reason I still have an account with them is price.
Also, you have to ask for price breaks. They don't automatically move you to a
better "column" when your buying reaches a given theshold.
>> Systems Depot has nice people but they make a lot of order processing errors.
>
> Have not experienced that, but I don't do that much business with them. That
> may change though.
I always liked their staff around Clearwater. They had a lot of turnover it
seems though. There's a girl named Diane who is long gone now. She came from
ADI and before that, who knows. We'd sometimes call in an urgent order close to
close of the day and she'd call another branch from her cell phone on the way
home from work, just to make sure the order got shipped.
>> Northern Video will beat anyone and everyone's prices but they don't stock as
>> much as dedicated security distributors do.
>
> And a lot of lines they just do not have.
They "handle" a lot but stock only a few major lines. With some lines (I think
ARM is one of them) they build the DVRs to order and ship same day or next.
That works fine if the client happens to want that brand. Their on-line order
tracking system is in some ways better than ADI's. Tri-Ed could do better in
that area but they've been improving at least.
Robert L Bass
>
> Speaking of which, does anyone know where I can buy plastic ground screws in
> bulk?
Heh, heh, heh.... :^)
Happy new year, Eff.
Robert L Bass
>
> Congrats on the wise business choice, Nate.
> I dumped Brinks a few months after they hired
> that douchebag Garrido to replace Clark. The
> transition is easier than you think. When I get
> a free moment I'll send across as much info as
> I can.
I was hoping you'd show up today, Tom, just so I could wish you a happy new
year. How's everything going with you?
Nathan W. Collier
> news:Nuydncttc_6xCarW...@bresnan.com...
>>
>> --- snip stuff about good client worth doing job for ---
>>
>> all this in mind, any equipment recommendations you could make would be
>> sincerely appreciated.
>
> OK, in that case, take a look at Napco's wireless. Their stuff lasts
> forever without much service. ITI's wireless has always enjoyed a strong
> reputation though with GE Security selling the whole kit and kaboodle to
> UTC, there's no way to know which, if any of their lines will still exist
> a year from now. Honeywell wireless is OK but service ate ADI leaves
> somewhat to be desired and prices are outrageous unless you buy *lots*
> from them. Getting started afressh, even if they know you from before,
> they'll charge you top dollar.
>
> Tri-Ed gives good service and will try to beat most competitors' prices.
> Systems Depot has nice people but they make a lot of order processing
> errors. Northern Video will beat anyone and everyone's prices but they
> don't stock as much as dedicated security distributors do.
thanks for all the information.
Nathan W. Collier
news:9381acdb-b019-42a0...@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>Congrats on the wise business choice, Nate. I dumped Brinks a few
>months after they hired that douchebag Garrido to replace Clark.
>The transition is easier than you think. When I get a free moment I'll
>send across as much info as I can.
many thanks!
Spellcheck Patrol
wrote:
> "Spellcheck Patrol" wrote:
>
> > Congrats on the wise business choice, Nate.
> > I dumped Brinks a few months after they hired
> > that douchebag Garrido to replace Clark. The
> > transition is easier than you think. When I get
> > a free moment I'll send across as much info as
> > I can.
>
> I was hoping you'd show up today, Tom, just so I could wish you a happy new
> year. How's everything going with you?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> ==============================>
> Bass Home Electronics
Thanks and Happy New Year to you too. Things are hectic as usual. How
are you? Keep up the fight no matter what.
Spellcheck Patrol
> "Spellcheck Patrol" <alarminst...@aol.com> wrote in message
Anytime. Happy New Year
Robert L Bass
>
> Thanks and Happy New Year to you too. Things are hectic as usual. How are you?
> Keep up the fight no matter what.
I'm OK. Last week was pretty rough. Spent a little time in the hospital due to
a medication reaction. They sent me home with 24/7 nursing care for a few days.
Now I'm on my own again, but my family is keeping me surrounded. I even went to
a New Year's Eve party the other night. I don't drink much but I had a swig of
champaigne (kind of nice) to ring in '10.
If I can get well enough to travel some time in the next month or two, I want to
come up to NJ to visit family. Maybe I can make it into the city and say hi in
person over an Orange Julus (haven't had one of those in 25 years, I think).
G. Morgan
<nor...@bogusemail.com> wrote:
>Maybe I can make it into the city and say hi in
>person over an Orange Julus (haven't had one of those in 25 years, I think).
They still have Orange Julus? I haven't seen one in 25 years! Maybe
they are just up north?
petem
"G. Morgan" <usenet...@gawab.com> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : 56q6k5lume6qr1ha5...@4ax.com...
here we have Orange Julep. is this the same thing?.
http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/orange.htm
Robert L Bass
news:56q6k5lume6qr1ha5...@4ax.com...
I don't really know if they still exist in NYC. There used to be one that I
went to downtown late at night sometimes.
Spellcheck Patrol
> "G. Morgan" <usenet_ab...@gawab.com> wrote in message
>
> news:56q6k5lume6qr1ha5...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:17:59 -0500, "Robert L Bass"
> > <nore...@bogusemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Maybe I can make it into the city and say hi in
> >>person over an Orange Julus (haven't had one of those in 25 years, I think).
>
> > They still have Orange Julus? I haven't seen one in 25 years! Maybe
> > they are just up north?
>
> I don't really know if they still exist in NYC. There used to be one that I
> went to downtown late at night sometimes.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> ==============================>
> Bass Home Electronics
They left years ago but are coming back to the area as part of the
Dairy Queen family.
Spellcheck Patrol
> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:17:59 -0500, "Robert L Bass"
>
> >Maybe I can make it into the city and say hi in
> >person over an Orange Julus (haven't had one of those in 25 years, I think).
>
> They still have Orange Julus? I haven't seen one in 25 years! Maybe
> they are just up north? <
You guys still have Whataburger? Best burger of all time
Robert L Bass
>
> You guys still have Whataburger? Best burger of all time
Not quite. Mine are still the best on the planet. :^)
Jim
> "G. Morgan" <usenet_ab...@gawab.com> wrote in message
>
> news:56q6k5lume6qr1ha5...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:17:59 -0500, "Robert L Bass"
> > <nore...@bogusemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Maybe I can make it into the city and say hi in
> >>person over an Orange Julus (haven't had one of those in 25 years, I think).
>
> > They still have Orange Julus? �I haven't seen one in 25 years! �Maybe
> > they are just up north?
>
> I don't really know if they still exist in NYC. �There used to be one that I
> went to downtown late at night sometimes.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
In NYC, Orange Julius is a minority now.
Robert L Bass
>
> In NYC, Orange Julius is a minority now.
I'd have suggested cheesecake at Roxie's but I heard they're closed (hope not).
Robert
G. Morgan
<alarmi...@aol.com> wrote:
>You guys still have Whataburger? Best burger of all time
Sure do! I had a double meat with cheese and jalapeneos just 2 days
ago. Mmmmmmm :-)