GE, Honeywell & TYCO

[Jim Cook]

Is there to be a "big three" in equipment manufacturers now with each
dabbling in distribution & installation? It's kind of ironic, GE getting
into the security industry, because I was under the impression that they
would sell Honeywell's security unit if the merger had been approved.

I see TYCO claims to be the #1 provider of CCTV equipment in the world with
Philips, Pelco & Panasonic more or less tied for #2. Vicon & Ultrak haven't
fared well lately and may be up-for-grabs soon, who knows!

Where do you all think this is headed. I also wonder about the fallout with
vender/manufacturer/distributor/installer relationships weaving in and out
of different competitors. Makes my head spin!

I personally don't think that manufacturing, distribution and installation
should be held by a single entity, but this is the land of the free and
that's what sets us apart from the socialists, communists and dictatorships
etc.

If the Gov't placed oppressive restrictions on how we do business, would the
U.S.A. be as powerful as it is now & where would technology be now?

I love this industry!

[charle...@hotmail.com]

Big Three ... OK I don't claim to be an industry expert but

GE - GBC,FiberOptions,Kalatel,Caddx,Sentrol,Aritech,ITI,CSI-Rusco
TYCO - ADT,Ansul,Simplex,Sonitrol,Software House

How does Tyco claim to be #1 in CCTV, I thought TYCO's companies
were mainly systems / monitoring / installation / fire ?

Who does Honeywell own besides First Alert ?

I guess I wasn't aware of the distribution side of the big three ?

Thanks for any education guys. CB

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:32:09 GMT, "Jim Cook" <jimc...@home.com>
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[Robert L Bass]

Every big company claims to be "Number One." It's just hype. It makes no
difference whether they are number one, two or thirty-six.

<charle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: Big Three ... OK I don't claim to be an industry expert but

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[Jim Cook]

Honeywell bought Pitway which is Ademco, Northern Computers, ADI, Firelite,
Notifier, AlarmNet, Apex, ASC, IntelliSense, FBII and others. They had also
bought C&K & Westinghouse Access Control just to name a couple and don't
forget their installation wing - Honeywell Security.

Here are a few other TYCO companies, some of whom you missed:
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Sensormatic
Tyco Fire & Security
ADT (US)
ADT (Australia)
ADT (Canada)
ADT (Latin America)
ADT (UK)
ADT (Malaysia)
ADT (New Zealand)
ADT (Singapore)
ADT Fire Monitoring
Ansul
Atlas Fire Engineering
Armourguard
Automatic Sprinkler
Barlin Scott
Bon + Naga
CAPS Korea
CIPE
Climatech
Designair
Dong Bang Electronic Industrial Co.
Energy Control
Environ Air conditioning
Exelgard
Flag Fire Equipment
Fire Control
Fire Defender
Grinnell UK
Grinnell Fire Protection Systems
Haden Engineering
Haden FM
Interco Alarms
Kooline Refrigeration
Macron Safety Systems (UK) Ltd
Mather & Platt
Modern
National Fire & Security
Niedner
O'Donnell Griffin
Olsen Engineering
OPPI
PT ODG/Wormald (Indonesia)
Quintrix Communications
Refrigeration Systems
SEPCI
Simplex
Software House
Sonitrol
Tempest
Thorn Security (Hong Kong)
Thorn Security (Nederland)
Thorn Security (Singapore)
Thorn Security International Marine and Offshore
Total Walther
Tyco Australia
Tyco Building Products Australia
Tyco Engineering and Construction (HK)
Tyco Engineering and Construction (India)
Tyco Engineering and Construction (Malaysia)
Tyco Electronic Product Group (TEPG)
Tyco Engineering Services (UK)
Tyco International (Thailand)
Tyco Integrated Systems (Czech Republic)
Tyco Integrated Systems (Germany)
Tyco Integrated Systems (Poland)
Tyco Integrated Systems (Switzerland)
Tyco New Zealand
Tyco Pieco (Philippines)
Tyco Services (Australia)
Tyco Services (New Zealand)
Tyco Services (Singapore)
Wormald Fire Systems (BE)
Wormald Fire Systems (NL)
Wormald Fire Systems (NO)
Wormald Fire Systems (DK)
Wormald Fire Systems (Singapore)
Wormald Fire Systems (UK)
Wormald Engineering (Taiwan)

Plus literally hundreds of smaller security companies world wide.

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[charle...@hotmail.com]

Wow .. thanks for the education Jim ... I also now realize that
Honeywell bought Pittway and got the whole Ademco Group thing ...

these are big mother companies !

since Honeywell Home and Building Control is a $5 B company I
guess Sensormatic ($1 B) and similar are the next tier down ... CB

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:11:10 GMT, "Jim Cook" <jimc...@home.com>

[charle...@hotmail.com]

Oops, just realized sensormatic was on the list!

[grumpy]

Did I miss it or did some one mention that ADT/TYCO also owns Honeywell
Security Canada...

Well, they do.

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[Jim Cook]

That's right, they (TYCO) did buy Honeywell Canada, as well as Honeywell
Australia a couple of years ago! I think ADT got P1, Great Britain also
(along with every third British Alarm Company in existence).

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[Gregasarus]

Tyco - Sensormatic.