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Ant
May 15, 2012, 12:34:14 AM5/15/12
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Hello.
According to quick Google searches, it seems like FrontPointSecurity is
better than ADT. Do you guys agree on this? Has anyone tried both for a
house? Is it true that FrontPointSecurity doesn't have 24/7 support like
ADT?
Thank you in advance. :)
Best regards,
Ant (remove ANT if e-mailing)
According to quick Google searches, it seems like FrontPointSecurity is
better than ADT. Do you guys agree on this? Has anyone tried both for a
house? Is it true that FrontPointSecurity doesn't have 24/7 support like
ADT?
Thank you in advance. :)
Best regards,
Ant (remove ANT if e-mailing)
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Jim
May 15, 2012, 10:26:55 AM5/15/12
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That is to say .... ADT is known for ripping off the end user by using their well known name in the commercial alarm installation trade and their deep pockets to advertise on TV, to play to home owners where they do little more than trap people into paying exobitant amounts of money for years for the installation of a minimal amount of the cheapest equipment. Also, the people who install these systems are not ADT employees but simply people who ( in my opinion ) can't make it on their own in this trade and become ADT "dealers" who install alarm systems, then sell the accounts to ADT.
Find a local independent alarm installation company who is not part of some national franchise if you are looking for good value for your money. Do your research of at least three local companys and ask your friends etc for referrals.
tourman
May 15, 2012, 2:10:38 PM5/15/12
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serving, do some research before committing to ANY company. My site is
like many out there serving the end user...it may
assist....www.homemetal.com
Good luck.....you'll likely need it....:))
mleuck
May 15, 2012, 10:32:22 PM5/15/12
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Chris
May 17, 2012, 12:53:58 AM5/17/12
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> FrontPoint sends you a GE Simon XT and some sensors that you install yourself, how is this better?
Well that would give you the option of using screws to mount devices with instead of double-sided tape or silicon that all the doorknockers seem to be using lately.
To Ant though - Jim's post is exactly the advice you need. Go with someone local who can install a better quality system with the technical knowledge to install and service it properly. You should also find they can charge you $20-30 per month for proper monitoring instead of $50-60 for frills you don't need. There's a huge difference between companies that sell alarm systems and companies that sell contracts.
- Chris
mleuck
May 24, 2012, 4:19:29 PM5/24/12
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On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:53:58 PM UTC-5, Chris wrote:
> > FrontPoint sends you a GE Simon XT and some sensors that you install yourself, how is this better?
>
>
> Well that would give you the option of using screws to mount devices with instead of double-sided tape or silicon that all the doorknockers seem to be using lately.
>
> - Chris
> > FrontPoint sends you a GE Simon XT and some sensors that you install yourself, how is this better?
>
>
> Well that would give you the option of using screws to mount devices with instead of double-sided tape or silicon that all the doorknockers seem to be using lately.
>
And which method of mounting do you suppose an inexperienced customer would choose? Especially when the manufacturers often include double-stick tape with the sensor.
Chris
May 25, 2012, 7:40:51 PM5/25/12
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Although I find that parts usually have under-sized, philips screws included, or occasionally both screws and tape.
The only parts I can think of that only have tape included are the ones that can only be mounted with tape, such as the "vanishing" contacts from Secure Wireless. This is one reason why I don't use those contacts.
- Chris
Ant
Jul 26, 2012, 2:07:03 PM7/26/12
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Hi again.
Does anyone have personal opinions on Protect America and Time Warner
Cable's home security systems compared to the others earlier? This is
for a big one floor house, with a family, who don't want to build one.
Thank you in advance. :)
Does anyone have personal opinions on Protect America and Time Warner
Cable's home security systems compared to the others earlier? This is
for a big one floor house, with a family, who don't want to build one.
Thank you in advance. :)
onlineal...@gmail.com
Jul 29, 2012, 6:58:49 AM7/29/12
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onlineal...@gmail.com
Jul 29, 2012, 7:06:17 AM7/29/12
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What type of service do you receive from Time Warner in regards to cable, internet, and phone? Do you think they will be any better when it comes to an industry they know nothing about?
Protect America? Oh boy. That's like trying to protect yourself in a hurricane using a broken umbrella.
Ant, what State are you located in?
What's with the penny pinching when it comes to protecting your home and family?
Ant
Jul 29, 2012, 2:04:09 PM7/29/12
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On 7/29/2012 4:06 AM PT, onlineal...@gmail.com typed:
> Ant, what State are you located in?
L.A., CA.
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Just Looking
Jul 29, 2012, 4:49:58 PM7/29/12
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With a name like "Ant" certainly you must have heard of Edward O. Wilson.
From Smithsonian magazine:
Ants are a wildly successful sector of nature’s bestiary, accounting for
maybe a quarter of all terrestrial animal matter—the same percentage of
biomass that we humans can claim. They’re found on every continent save
Antarctica and in just about every possible setting, and though you may
dislike ants at a picnic, you’d dislike even more a park that was scrubbed
antiseptically ant-free.
Read more:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Edward-O-Wilsons-New-Take-on-Human-Nature.html#ixzz222ny0UDM
Although you and E.O. Wilson seem to have a great admiration of all things
ant, ants don't use electronic security systems.
It is unlikely that anyone posting here regularly would have occasion to
compare and contrast two different (and for the most part competing) vendors
of security services to end users. Those entities are competitors, and the
people posting here already have a strong notion that what they have to
offer in the marketplace is superior to what is offered by those type of
mass market companies.
Without knowing the specifics of your unique situation, it would be
difficult to recommend anything equipment or even vendor wise.
Limiting your selection to those two particular vendors as you did, without
discussing your reasons for that selection in the first place, makes the
task of any meaningful recommendations nearly impossible.
There are other big brand names of security equipment.
Honeywell,
UTC Interlogix (formerly GE security)
DSC (Tyco)
DMP
Bosch
2gig
just to name a few
Doing a little on line research into what is on offer there and then perhaps
making a call to the manufacturer to see what dealers in your area handle
the brand you have interest in would get you a better start in selecting a
security services contractor.
"Ant" wrote in message
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From Smithsonian magazine:
Ants are a wildly successful sector of nature’s bestiary, accounting for
maybe a quarter of all terrestrial animal matter—the same percentage of
biomass that we humans can claim. They’re found on every continent save
Antarctica and in just about every possible setting, and though you may
dislike ants at a picnic, you’d dislike even more a park that was scrubbed
antiseptically ant-free.
Read more:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Edward-O-Wilsons-New-Take-on-Human-Nature.html#ixzz222ny0UDM
Although you and E.O. Wilson seem to have a great admiration of all things
ant, ants don't use electronic security systems.
It is unlikely that anyone posting here regularly would have occasion to
compare and contrast two different (and for the most part competing) vendors
of security services to end users. Those entities are competitors, and the
people posting here already have a strong notion that what they have to
offer in the marketplace is superior to what is offered by those type of
mass market companies.
Without knowing the specifics of your unique situation, it would be
difficult to recommend anything equipment or even vendor wise.
Limiting your selection to those two particular vendors as you did, without
discussing your reasons for that selection in the first place, makes the
task of any meaningful recommendations nearly impossible.
There are other big brand names of security equipment.
Honeywell,
UTC Interlogix (formerly GE security)
DSC (Tyco)
DMP
Bosch
2gig
just to name a few
Doing a little on line research into what is on offer there and then perhaps
making a call to the manufacturer to see what dealers in your area handle
the brand you have interest in would get you a better start in selecting a
security services contractor.
"Ant" wrote in message
news:KZWdnTI4qKjaGozN...@earthlink.com...
Ant
Jul 29, 2012, 9:38:34 PM7/29/12
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On 7/29/2012 1:49 PM PT, Just Looking typed:
> With a name like "Ant" certainly you must have heard of Edward O. Wilson.
Definitely yes! I have never met him before though. :)
> From Smithsonian magazine:
> Ants are a wildly successful sector of nature’s bestiary, accounting for
> maybe a quarter of all terrestrial animal matter—the same percentage of
> biomass that we humans can claim. They’re found on every continent save
> Antarctica and in just about every possible setting, and though you may
> dislike ants at a picnic, you’d dislike even more a park that was
> scrubbed antiseptically ant-free.
> Read more:
> http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Edward-O-Wilsons-New-Take-on-Human-Nature.html#ixzz222ny0UDM
Yep! Ants rule!
> Although you and E.O. Wilson seem to have a great admiration of all
> things ant, ants don't use electronic security systems.
This one does. My friend teased me that ants don't use computers, but I
do! :P
> It is unlikely that anyone posting here regularly would have occasion to
> compare and contrast two different (and for the most part competing)
> vendors of security services to end users. Those entities are
> competitors, and the people posting here already have a strong notion
> that what they have to offer in the marketplace is superior to what is
> offered by those type of mass market companies.
Yeah, I noticed. :(
> Without knowing the specifics of your unique situation, it would be
> difficult to recommend anything equipment or even vendor wise.
> Limiting your selection to those two particular vendors as you did,
> without discussing your reasons for that selection in the first place,
> makes the task of any meaningful recommendations nearly impossible.
Well, this is for a big one floor house on a small mountain/giant hill,
with several big windows and doors. Wireless isn't stable for the phone
carriers, like Verizon and T-Mobile, etc.
> There are other big brand names of security equipment.
> Honeywell,
> UTC Interlogix (formerly GE security)
> DSC (Tyco)
> DMP
> Bosch
> 2gig
> just to name a few
OK, but what about services and supports? That is what my family cares
about. :(
> Doing a little on line research into what is on offer there and then
> perhaps making a call to the manufacturer to see what dealers in your
> area handle the brand you have interest in would get you a better start
> in selecting a security services contractor.
Would these dealers set up the security alarm systems as well?
> With a name like "Ant" certainly you must have heard of Edward O. Wilson.
> From Smithsonian magazine:
> Ants are a wildly successful sector of nature’s bestiary, accounting for
> maybe a quarter of all terrestrial animal matter—the same percentage of
> biomass that we humans can claim. They’re found on every continent save
> Antarctica and in just about every possible setting, and though you may
> dislike ants at a picnic, you’d dislike even more a park that was
> scrubbed antiseptically ant-free.
> Read more:
> http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Edward-O-Wilsons-New-Take-on-Human-Nature.html#ixzz222ny0UDM
> Although you and E.O. Wilson seem to have a great admiration of all
> things ant, ants don't use electronic security systems.
do! :P
> It is unlikely that anyone posting here regularly would have occasion to
> compare and contrast two different (and for the most part competing)
> vendors of security services to end users. Those entities are
> competitors, and the people posting here already have a strong notion
> that what they have to offer in the marketplace is superior to what is
> offered by those type of mass market companies.
> Without knowing the specifics of your unique situation, it would be
> difficult to recommend anything equipment or even vendor wise.
> Limiting your selection to those two particular vendors as you did,
> without discussing your reasons for that selection in the first place,
> makes the task of any meaningful recommendations nearly impossible.
with several big windows and doors. Wireless isn't stable for the phone
carriers, like Verizon and T-Mobile, etc.
> There are other big brand names of security equipment.
> Honeywell,
> UTC Interlogix (formerly GE security)
> DSC (Tyco)
> DMP
> Bosch
> 2gig
> just to name a few
about. :(
> Doing a little on line research into what is on offer there and then
> perhaps making a call to the manufacturer to see what dealers in your
> area handle the brand you have interest in would get you a better start
> in selecting a security services contractor.
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