Reset a FA120C to factory defaults
mrne...@my-deja.com
First Alert FA120C system installed. This house
had been previously vacant for almost two years
and the original owners long gone. Meaning we do
not have access to any of the master/user codes.
It is also apparent that the panel is locked out
from programming. Is there a way to reset the
system to the factory defaults, without frying
the board? Note that I do have the installation
manual and the original installation setup
parameters so I can reprogram the system without
much trouble.
Thanks,
Richard
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Jacob Ashbury
account to unlock it.
120 is old and bare-bones. I thought they were tough boards, but very
limited. Spring for about $125 and get a Vista 10se- you will love it, it
can handle wireless and key-fobs and has current technology. Not a super
panel by any means, but very dependable and will work with almost Ademco's
entire product line (largest and most extensive in the industry).
Find a reasonable CS (monitoring station) but make sure it is UL- don't go
with a non-UL station as the few dollars you could save will be pure risk
money.
Jake-
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Robert L Bass
panel will work with almost every wired sensor from all the manufacturers.
Ademco has a fairly wide assortment, but they are far from being a
technology leader. There are other options which the gentleman should
consider, such as Napco Gemini, DSC Power832 and Caddx Networx series
panels.
As to monitoring, it's all "risk money" because the client has no way of
knowing if the CS he chooses -- UL or not -- will do a good job. There are
good and bad large CS operations and there are good and bad local outfits.
Some UL stations are awful and some are great. The same can be said for
non-UL stations.
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Robert L Bass
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Ashbury wrote:
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> --- snip for brevity ---
Spaceycat
panel. The 120's use 5700 series wireless and most of the ones you get now use
5800 series (at least First Alert and Ademco)
Pati
Mark Leuck
"Jacob Ashbury" <ch...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> IF you are positive it is locked, then you have to have the CS holding the
> account to unlock it.
>
> 120 is old and bare-bones. I thought they were tough boards, but very
> limited. Spring for about $125 and get a Vista 10se- you will love it, it
> can handle wireless and key-fobs and has current technology. Not a super
> panel by any means, but very dependable and will work with almost Ademco's
> entire product line (largest and most extensive in the industry).
>
> Find a reasonable CS (monitoring station) but make sure it is UL- don't go
> with a non-UL station as the few dollars you could save will be pure risk
> money.
>
> Jake-
Don't forget the 6139 Alpha keypad required to program it (assuming the end
user will be doing that)
Jacob Ashbury
saying this in public) have the system downloaded- this will help ensure
proper programming.
Damn- : )
Jake-
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Mark Leuck
> I'm not- but with a decent UL listed CS they really should (gulp, I hate
> saying this in public) have the system downloaded- this will help ensure
> proper programming.
>
> Damn- : )
>
> Jake-
Heh, in all honesty I don't know how many CS's will actually do that for an
end user or even download period, in my experience very few monitoring
centers even have anyone who knows how to do it
Marc Mazzarese
into a house with a FA system?
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question is the quantity of devices, the 120c will handle more wl zones than
a 10se if I remember correctly, so you will have to use a Via 30. The only
thing with the 5700 series is that if a device has crapped out it might be
tough to replace as it no longer manufactured. Applies mostly to 5775
motions and 5706 smokes I think.
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Jacob Ashbury
don't remember that. It is entirely possible though- the FA series of
panels are strong panels.
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Mark Leuck
> I'm gonna have to find my old 120 books- more WL than a V10? Hmm, I sure
> don't remember that. It is entirely possible though- the FA series of
> panels are strong panels.
The 120 is a clone of the 4110XM, whats a WL?
Jacob Ashbury
Sorry, was using the "WL" for wireless.
120 was a solid low-end panel and we had very few failures. An occasional
fuse or resistor for electrical reasons but very few boards went bad after
installation.
I do remember one particular part of the local area that has some type of
local telephone network- we never got a 120 to communicate properly from
that area.
In general I remember 120s being very particular about ring and tip (you
know, orange and blue : )
Jake-
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Mark Leuck
> Not an exact clone- remember FAs service call feature, etc.
> Sorry, was using the "WL" for wireless.
> 120 was a solid low-end panel and we had very few failures. An occasional
> fuse or resistor for electrical reasons but very few boards went bad after
> installation.
> I do remember one particular part of the local area that has some type of
> local telephone network- we never got a 120 to communicate properly from
> that area.
> In general I remember 120s being very particular about ring and tip (you
> know, orange and blue : )
I can only find that service feature on the FA-145C which is an offshoot of
a Vista-10, the program sheet for the FA120 is just like the 4110XM, it
doesn't have that
Wierd thing is I've seen a "Vista-12" which is an exact copy of the FA-145C
which is an offshoot..... (you get the idea)
Jacob Ashbury
Haven't done one in years, so you're probably right, it was a reconfigured
panic button. I do remember many 'service calls' for a company called Scott
Alarm- they had customer service down to a science.
The 145 has a "lug" for strobes etc.- neat feature.
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Marc Mazzarese
V10 = 8 wl zones w/ H or M receiversnews:932ba4$k44$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
Marc Mazzarese
Marc Mazzarese
FA panels are more of a hybrid version of Ademco panels.
120c = up to 16 wl zones 4110xm = 8
120c = hardwire expansion 4110xm = none
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Marc Mazzarese
mikey
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jim
<mc...@yahoo.com> writes:
>Subject: Re: Reset a FA120C to factory defaults
>From: "mikey" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:38:45 GMT
>
>ah hah!!! trying to sneak this one past Paul, were ya?
>
heh heh heh!
You're right. Shusssh! Don't mention the * Double U * word.
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Mark Leuck
> I know- the press for service on the 120 was not in the program sheets.
> Haven't done one in years, so you're probably right, it was a
reconfigured
> panic button. I do remember many 'service calls' for a company called
Scott
> Alarm- they had customer service down to a science.
> The 145 has a "lug" for strobes etc.- neat feature.
I *think* that feature was added for Scott Alarm, hard to say
Jacob Ashbury
Ah, we try
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Mark Leuck
> come on Mark, WL = wireless.
> FA panels are more of a hybrid version of Ademco panels.
> 120c = up to 16 wl zones 4110xm = 8
> 120c = hardwire expansion 4110xm = none
>
It slipped past, thanks for the info on the 120, I've been dealing with
techs on those for the past 3 years and never knew this stuff, seems I'm
always learning something new
Marc Mazzarese
a great outlet for info.
P.S. Still have not learned anything from that Loxxon stuff or was that Al
Gore's Lock Box, I can't remember anymore. :-)
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Mark Leuck
> P.S. Still have not learned anything from that Loxxon stuff or was that Al
> Gore's Lock Box, I can't remember anymore. :-)
Doesn't matter, they were/are both vaporware anyway :)