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DSC keyfob 5 digit serial number

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Tower Security

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Jan 23, 2010, 5:29:57 PM1/23/10
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I'm trying to add a wireless keyfob to a version 1.0 DSC PC5010. The
receiver is a RF5108 V1.0 and I can connect to it via DSL2002 and it's
looking for a 5-digit serial number. The ESN on the fob is 6 digits
and the box or fob doesn't list any 5-digit number. I've tried
truncating the first or last digit, but no success. Anyone know how
to input a 5-digit code from the 6-digit ESN?

Jim Rojas

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:09:44 PM1/23/10
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If you left mouse click the 5, a check the box will appear. You check it
off, and it will switch from 5 digit to 6 digit ESN.

Jim Rojas

Jim Rojas

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:15:56 PM1/23/10
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If the 5010 programming does not support 6 digit ESN at all, you will
have to call DSC support to get the correct conversion.

Jim Rojas


Tower Security

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:16:45 PM1/23/10
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> If you left mouse click the 5, a check the box will appear. You check it
> off, and it will switch from 5 digit to 6 digit ESN.

The 5 or 6 field is greyed out and I can't alter that field in the DLS
software. I suspect because the download software knows that it's
connected to a PC5010 version 1.0 and the "Note" under that field says
5-digit serial numbers must be used if this module is used with PC5010
V1.0

I wonder whether DSC has some conversion from a 6-digit ESN to 5-
digit? Or am I stuck unless I find an older fob that lists both 6-
digit and 5-digit ESNs?

Reg

mleuck

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:21:54 PM1/23/10
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This is the conversion they do

1. The 1st digit of ESN number is also 1st digit of SN
2. Open up calculator in Microsoft Windows
3. Click on VIEW at top of calculator and select SCIENTIFIC
3a. Click on HEX button at top left of calculator
5. Input the 2nd, 3rd and 4th characters or numbers of the ESN number
6. Click on DEC button at top left of calculator
7. These are the last 4 digits of the SN number
Example: ESN 26DA4A would be SN 21754

Jim Rojas

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Jan 23, 2010, 8:10:07 PM1/23/10
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3. Click on VIEW at top of calculator and select SCIENTIFIC (or
PROGRAMMING in Vista or Win 7)


3a. Click on HEX button at top left of calculator
5. Input the 2nd, 3rd and 4th characters or numbers of the ESN number
6. Click on DEC button at top left of calculator
7. These are the last 4 digits of the SN number
Example: ESN 26DA4A would be SN 21754

Jim Rojas

Tower Security

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Jan 23, 2010, 11:52:48 PM1/23/10
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Awesome!!! It's too late for me to download the panel and test it,
but that looks to be the solution as the DLS software accepts the
converted 5-digit ESN

Thanks a bunch!!!

mleuck

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Jan 24, 2010, 12:27:47 AM1/24/10
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I forgot to post the rest of it, here's the entire process

1. The 1st digit of ESN number is also 1st digit of SN
2. Open up calculator in Microsoft Windows
3. Click on VIEW at top of calculator and select SCIENTIFIC

4. Click on HEX button at top left of calculator


5. Input the 2nd, 3rd and 4th characters or numbers of the ESN number
6. Click on DEC button at top left of calculator
7. These are the last 4 digits of the SN number
Example: ESN 26DA4A would be SN 21754

8. If 0 is 2nd digit use 3rd and 4th digits into calculator then add
00 to beginning of the result
Example: If ESN is 6039E9
1. The 1st digit (6) of ESN number is also 1st digit of SN
2. Click on VIEW at top of calculator and select SCIENTIFIC
3. Click on HEX button at top left of calculator
4. Enter 3rd and 4th digit (39)
5. Click DEC button, the result should be 57
6. The SN number will be 60057

mleuck

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Jan 24, 2010, 12:32:27 AM1/24/10
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On Jan 23, 10:52 pm, Tower Security <regsiem...@hotmail.com> wrote:

You are almost better off with a v2 or higher 5010, that v1 was odd in
how it handled hardwire and wireless sensors.

Robert L Bass

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Jan 24, 2010, 12:49:35 AM1/24/10
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And someone said Napco software is a pain???

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mleuck

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Jan 24, 2010, 3:04:37 AM1/24/10
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On Jan 23, 11:49 pm, "Robert L Bass" <nore...@bogusemail.com> wrote:
> And someone said Napco software is a pain???
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> --
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> Regards,
> Robert L Bass

No, DSC's software has a simple check box to toggle 5 or 6-digit
serial numbers in fact it's amazing he missed it. The calculation I
posted has nothing to do with the software other than determining the
converted serial number to use modern sensors on ancient and rare
PC5010 v1.0 or WS5010 panels.

Napco's software on the other hand is bloated, slow and has a terrible
interface regardless of the wireless sensors and panels it is
programming.

Tower Security

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:22:19 AM1/24/10
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I tried toggling the 5 digits to 6 even before my first post but it's
not an option. I suspect DSC software is smart enough to know what
number of digits is required based on the panel that it's connected
to. Despite a fiddly conversion, the fact that my customer can
purchase a current wireless receiver and fob that works on a panel
that is 14 years old is remarkable.

mleuck

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Jan 24, 2010, 9:29:21 AM1/24/10
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It was a good panel but v2 really made it a classic

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