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Programming First Alert Pro FA168CPS Alarm Panel

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neil...@hotmail.com

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Jul 27, 2007, 8:06:44 PM7/27/07
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I recently bought a house with an alarm system and I want to change
some of the zone programming.

The alarm panel is a First Alert Pro FA-168CPS and I have the
programming manual and can get into programming mode and change
things. Unfortunately, my keypad is not an alpha-numberic one and so I
can't program the zones.

The programming manual mentions the Compass software so I was hoping
that I could do the zone programming using this. I downloaded Compass
1.5.8.54 and the First Alert Pro Canadian Personality disk (I live in
Canada). The problem is that when I start up Compass, the First Alert
Panels do not appear in the list of panels.

Do I need any other software to get Compass to work with my panel?
Can I connect Compass up to my panel directly without using a
telephone line?
Is there any special programming I need to do to the panel to get it
to work with Compass?
Is there any other way to do the zone programming without an alpha-
numeric keypad?

I asked First Alert these questions and they simply referred me to a
local dealer. I asked the local dealer and he only wanted to sell me
alarm monitoring service. Can anybody help?

Mark Leuck

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Jul 27, 2007, 9:51:38 PM7/27/07
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<neil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Have you tried a rocket scientist?


Buggs

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Jul 28, 2007, 2:55:45 AM7/28/07
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"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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They're not smart enough.
js


Robert L Bass

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Jul 28, 2007, 3:24:08 AM7/28/07
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>> Have you tried a rocket scientist?
>
> They're not smart enough.

The funny thing is that although there are
none in ASA, I have a fair number of clients
who actually *are* rocket scientists. :^)

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Robert L Bass

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Bob La Londe

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Jul 28, 2007, 10:37:44 AM7/28/07
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"Robert L Bass" <Rober...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:saCqi.
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>>> Have you tried a rocket scientist?
>>
>> They're not smart enough.
>
> The funny thing is that although there are
> none in ASA, I have a fair number of clients
> who actually *are* rocket scientists. :^)

You realize don't you that rocket scientists may be plenty smart, when
it comes to making things work they get a mechanic to do the work.

My grandfather retired from NASA. He was a research mechanic.
Basically when some egghead want to do an experiment or test something
they would call my gramps and ask him how to do it.


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Bob La Londe
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Frank Olson

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Jul 28, 2007, 11:20:48 AM7/28/07
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Bob La Londe wrote:

>> The funny thing is that although there are
>> none in ASA, I have a fair number of clients
>> who actually *are* rocket scientists. :^)
>
> You realize don't you that rocket scientists may be plenty smart, when
> it comes to making things work they get a mechanic to do the work.

You mean that with "24 years" running a "modestly successful central
station alarm company", Bass may have actually had to *hire* installers
and service techs to do the actual work?? GASP!!! That sort of
explains a lot.


>
> My grandfather retired from NASA. He was a research mechanic.
> Basically when some egghead want to do an experiment or test something
> they would call my gramps and ask him how to do it.

I want to put an old Volvo into orbit... What's your "Gramps" email
address? :-)

Mark Leuck

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Jul 28, 2007, 2:07:39 PM7/28/07
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"Bob La Londe" <alarm_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Robert L Bass" <Rober...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:saCqi.
> 287$Ya1.142@trnddc06...
> >>> Have you tried a rocket scientist?
> >>
> >> They're not smart enough.
> >
> > The funny thing is that although there are
> > none in ASA, I have a fair number of clients
> > who actually *are* rocket scientists. :^)
>
> You realize don't you that rocket scientists may be plenty smart, when
> it comes to making things work they get a mechanic to do the work.
>
> My grandfather retired from NASA. He was a research mechanic.
> Basically when some egghead want to do an experiment or test something
> they would call my gramps and ask him how to do it.

Ain't that the truth, add computer programmers to the list


Crash Gordon

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Jul 29, 2007, 10:22:15 AM7/29/07
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Gonna be cheaper for you to buy a keypad to program with than trying to get
Compass to work locally...cause you'll need the proper modem (hard to find)
and a dial tone emulator...programming keypad's cheaper.

Then it's just a simple matter of reading and understanding the
install/programming manual to make the changes you want.

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Frank Olson

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Jul 29, 2007, 10:40:10 AM7/29/07
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Crash Gordon wrote:
> Gonna be cheaper for you to buy a keypad to program with than trying to get
> Compass to work locally...cause you'll need the proper modem (hard to find)
> and a dial tone emulator...programming keypad's cheaper.
>
> Then it's just a simple matter of reading and understanding the
> install/programming manual to make the changes you want.


You forgot to mention that it isn't "Rocket Science".

Crash Gordon

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Jul 29, 2007, 11:20:42 AM7/29/07
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And a degree in Alarmglish to understand some of the manuals.

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Just Looking

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Jul 30, 2007, 1:05:13 PM7/30/07
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I wonder how you got the "First Alert Pro Canadian Personality Disk" since
the U.S. version seems tough to come by.

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Mark Leuck

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Jul 30, 2007, 9:16:19 PM7/30/07
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"Just Looking" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I wonder how you got the "First Alert Pro Canadian Personality Disk" since
> the U.S. version seems tough to come by.

It is?


neil...@hotmail.com

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Jul 30, 2007, 10:14:29 PM7/30/07
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On Jul 30, 10:05 am, "Just Looking" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I wonder how you got the "First Alert Pro Canadian Personality Disk" since
> the U.S. version seems tough to come by.
>
> <neilmg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > alarm monitoring service. Can anybody help?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Canadian personality disk can be found on this page:
http://www.homesecuritystore.com/compass.htm. Here is a direct link:
http://www.homesecuritystore.com/software/ademco/compass/canada.zip.

Does anyone have a link the the US disk or can you email it to me?

Thanks.
Neil.

amper...@gmail.com

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Mar 16, 2015, 12:11:31 PM3/16/15
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The Ademco Vista panels and the First Alert Panels are the same system, same panel different package. So the programing of a FA 168 is the same as a Vista 168
Jeff Richerson
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