Synthetic Models
Jesse
We're setting up a new company to make synthetic artist's models for
sculptors and painters. These are laser scanned and digitally rendered
reproductions of live models. At the present time we're offering the very
first one, which is a standing female nude in a 41" or 21" size. Other
models and
poses are in progress. I'd appreciate any feedback you might have.
http://www.syntheticmodels.com
Thanks Jesse
Gary Waller
http://www.realdoll.com/. And perverts have more money than artists.
The big problem in figure work, as I am attempting to master, is lighting-
which occurs in planes, like in a wire frame. There are some good models of
the human head planes, around $57 if I recall. The devil is in the details
for sure, but the model doesn't help at that stage, the details are the
downhill, technical perserverance,slide. Getting to the top is the problem.
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Gary Oblock
You may joke about the sex dolls but, alas, they seem to be closer to
being useful as synthetic models than what Jesse is doing (sorry Jesse).
-- Gary Oblock
Bronze Dreams
Santa Clara, CA
http://www.bronzedreams.com
Gary Waller
emphasis on 'weighting' for high quality work - how gravity works on the
body in a particular pose. A scenic painter I once worked with raved about
an artist featured in an important arts magazine - this artist specialized
in painting obese women, who often posed on with body parts on clear acrylic
sheets, they were basically studies of gravity and skin texture. This
'weighting', as well as capturing imperfections, are keys to a work with any
life to it. Remember this one? Have someone hold a mirror vertically,
halfway in your face, center of the nose, then have that person turn the
mirror so the half of the relected face shows as exact size - the person's
face looks a lot different, because our faces are not symetrical, each face
has its own measure of 'disproportion'. Fashion models are often of a unique
beauty because they were born with more symetrical faces than normal, at
least according to a TV show I watched. Also, maybe we are so bombarded with
images of "beautiful" humans, we fail to appreciate the more common body
types - in Canada and the US I read a recent 'factoid' that over 70% of
people are 'overweight' (10% over recommended body weight).
Why the sex dolls are more useful is because they have gel silicone and
different rubbers, so more "gravity natural". But I notice the price is
$5000, not the $700 that Jesse plans.
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Gary Oblock
The $700 version is 41 inches high and available in a limited number of "canned"
poses. A synethic model based on the dolls technology, though much more
expensive, could be posed in an infinite number of poses (including those that
a live model can only hold for merely seconds due to the muscle strain involved).
To defer the larger expense involved and to get access to a varity of models, artists
would probably have to rent them from someone willing to purchase them or
form co-ops to share them.
-- Gary
Lenny
If you folks can really afford these prices, I strongly suggest you
hire live models and stock-up on amatomy texts & atlases:
Anatomy for the Artist- by Barcsay__ISBN 0 7064 0243 X
Anatomy_A Regional Atlas of the Humane Body- by Clemente_ISBN
0-8067-0322-9
(many of the studies are rendered by Lepier, who apparently studied
in Germany, during WWII. Rather than the flacid musculature seen
in medical books, these appear to have been done fromŠŠ well, use
your darkest inagination)
Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist- by Peck_ISBN0-19--503095-8 (pbk.)
The Human Machine- by Bridgeman_ISBN 0-486-22707-3
(in fact, any or all if George Bridgeman's books_ Dover sells/sold
them at very affordable prices)
Living Anatomy_A Photographic Atlas of Muscles in Action and Surface
Contours- by Lockhart_ISBN 0 571 09177 6
(this deliniates when and how various muscles are flexed in
various postures and actions -- given to me by a former nursing
student from U.S.C.)
Any other great books you folks might know of would be greatly
appreciated from this end.
---- a note regarding the necessity of figure studies and their
advantages over plastic models:
I was lucky to have had Lorser Feidelson, decades ago, while attending
the Art Center College in L.A. (now in Pasadena). Lorser wouldn't let
his students use any paper other newsprint. That was to get though our
thick skulls that we weren't there to make ART, but to study the human
figure, pure and simple. The ACT of observation of the figure as it
appears was the goal. We used the classic western technique of using
measured proportions and copied lines of direction accomplish this
task.*
Further, Lorser chose ballet dancers as our models. Athletes would do
in a pinch. Some were obese, some were old. That mattered not as much
as their sense of balance and dicipline. They ALL could hold a pose.
That mattered.
The sculptor Richard Williams and the Star Wars poster illustrator,
Drew Strewsand (sp?), both studied under Mr. Feidelson, to name just a
couple.
Most good models command good wages, and are well worth it.
How to afford this?
Group sessions, adult night classes, junior college classes, teaching
sessions yourself, are a few ways to reduce the cost.
Understand, I'm cheap, really cheap!
I doubt that I've barely spent the price of the $700 synthetic model,
in all my years of drawing.
*First, a light mark on the paper for the topmost element, and another
at the bottom. Then a mark at side extremities, the distance apart
taken as a proportion of the vertical measurement, as measured with our
charcoal pencils with our shoulders squared and arms/elbows extended.
The angle from the top and bottom points to lateral points was directly
copied from that of the corresponding points on the model, again using
our pencils. And so on and so forthŠto be continued. Maybe not.
Hey Gang, WHAT WE REALLY NEED HERE IS AN ACCOMPANYING BINARIES GROUP.
TO DIAGRAM CONCEPTS. What say?!!
By the way, though my sig may change, I'm the new guy, busy packing my
stuff, to make the move to Eureka/Vancouver/North Carolina. It's late.
My wife just called and summoned me home.
g'night
Todd
In article <3D687E89...@earthlink.net>, Gary Oblock
Fred Mason
respond better to images of "real women" sculpted, painted or drawn. They
know that gravity catches up will all of us sooner or later. Most also
realize they are far from the ersatz sex symbols generated by hollywood &
tv-land.
Join a figure group. Nothing beats working with live models, even if only
for sketching a few hours a week. Anatomy books are great but live is
better.
Fred
"Lenny" <tleo...@dock.net> wrote in message
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>
> If you folks can really afford these prices, I strongly suggest you
> hire live models and stock-up on amatomy texts & atlases:
>
> Anatomy for the Artist- by Barcsay__ISBN 0 7064 0243 X
>
> Anatomy_A Regional Atlas of the Humane Body- by Clemente_ISBN
> 0-8067-0322-9
> (many of the studies are rendered by Lepier, who apparently studied
> in Germany, during WWII. Rather than the flacid musculature seen
> in medical books, these appear to have been done fromSS well, use
> our pencils. And so on and so forthSto be continued. Maybe not.