Atkinson/Gordon info
LPeterson
Now that I've regained my composure after following the amusing
discussion on 'regimentals', can anyone suggest or recommend a good
refernce for the history of the Atkinsons and/or Gordon clan? I've been
researching my Atkinson family history and traced them to Northern
Ireland (contrary to family history that maintained the Atkinsons were
Scots). I've found mention that the Atkinsons were a sept of Clan Gordon
and I'm working to establish a probable origin for my family.
Thanks,
Lance Peterson
Ed & Joyce Thomas
Lance, you need to study your history. Northern Ireland was made up of
Scots & English after the early 1600's. They are the people called the
Scotch/Irish when they immigrated to America. To me they were still Scot.
Tiss
Robert McKay
>From: LPeterson lpet...@bellsouth.net
>Date: Wed, 15 September 1999 11:08 PM EDT
> I've been
>researching my Atkinson family history and traced them to Northern
>Ireland (contrary to family history that maintained the Atkinsons were
>Scots).
Actually both might be true. Some Scots immigrated to Ireland, and thence to
America - the Scot-Irish. And of course the Scotti originally came from
Ireland - which proves that they had the sense to get into the right part of
the world.<gd&r>
> I've found mention that the Atkinsons were a sept of Clan Gordon...
I find that Atkinson is indeed a sept of the Gordons (see
http://www.tartans.com/clans/Gordon/gordon.html). Whether this is the same
bunch of Atkinsons that you're descended from is another question entirely.<g>
Robert McKay/Raibeart MacAoidh
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E-mail - goffsca...@aol.com
Weird Load
anne.burgess
Adam'.
Whether or not your particular sons of Adam were related to Clan Gordon is
open to question. Adam is a fairly common name and not everyone who was a
'son of Adam' could be a Gordon.
If you are interested in joining a clan, by all means pick Clan Gordon. If
you are researching your own ancestry, bear in mind that your Atkinsons may
have had nothing at all to do with any clan. Work back from what you know
for sure - don't try to work forward from a possibly non-existent starting
point.
As far as the Irish connection is concerned, there was massive migration
from Scotland to Northern Ireland in the 17th century, so it is quite
possible that yours moved from Scotland at that time.
HTH
Anne
Kiltie8703
>Subject: Re: Atkinson/Gordon info
>From: Ed & Joyce Thomas ejth...@i1.net
>Date: Thu, 16 September 1999 12:30 AM EDT
>Message-id: <37E0727D...@i1.net>
>
>LPeterson wrote:
>
>> Hello To All,
>>
>> Now that I've regained my composure after following the amusing
>> discussion on 'regimentals', can anyone suggest or recommend a good
>> researching my Atkinson family history and traced them to Northern
>> Ireland (contrary to family history that maintained the Atkinsons were
>> and I'm working to establish a probable origin for my family.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lance Peterson
>
>Lance, you need to study your history. Northern Ireland was made up of
>Scots & English after the early 1600's. They are the people called the
>Scotch/Irish when they immigrated to America. To me they were still Scot.
>
>Tiss
>
>
same as Aitchison, which is an E. Lothian name from the 14thC. and a sept of
the Gordon Clan. George Black in his "surnames of Scotland" says to see under
Acheson. Under Acheson as the primary spelling, the other secondary spellings
are Aicheson, Aitcheson, Aitchison and Atkinson. These five names alll mean
"son of Adam, the first four from the diminutive Atty, and the last fthe
diminutive Adkin with the "d" sharpened to "t". Bye for now & Good Hunting,
Kilti...@AOL.com
LPeterson
Is it that simple to join a clan? I would expect that it would require a
sponsor, family documentation or some sort of proof. I hadn't considered
joining a clan but then again, I had no idea my family had connections to a
clan. I would be interested in learning more about it.
Certainly I have no idea if my lineage has any such connection and I was really
trying to determine if Atkinson is an Irish or Scottish surname. I am very
intrigued by the massive migration to Ireland and what started the big push.
I'm on my way to my local musty book store this weekend ASAP.
Thanks and please forgive my ignorance, but what does 'HTH' signify?
Lance
Lesley Robertson
LPeterson <lpet...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:37E1A9E7...@bellsouth.net...
> Hi Anne,
>
> Is it that simple to join a clan? I would expect that it would require a
> sponsor, family documentation or some sort of proof. I hadn't considered
> joining a clan but then again, I had no idea my family had connections to
a
> clan. I would be interested in learning more about it.
You don't "join" a clan - you are born into a clan. What you can join is a
Clan Society - the different societies have different requirements, but most
take those who carry a relevant surname - many will also take those who
have family links, and a few take people "who are interested". You would
have to contact the relevant Society.
> Certainly I have no idea if my lineage has any such connection and I was
really
> trying to determine if Atkinson is an Irish or Scottish surname. I am very
> intrigued by the massive migration to Ireland and what started the big
push.
> I'm on my way to my local musty book store this weekend ASAP.
> Thanks and please forgive my ignorance, but what does 'HTH' signify?
There has always been free exchange of people between Scotland and Ireland,
but one major factor was the making available of land in N.Ireland for
farming by protestant scots (late 18th century I think) - the motives of the
polititicans were otherwise, but the people who went were mostly economic
migrants.
Have a look at my favourite site - Rampant Scotland
http://www.rampantscotland.com/
or read the books of TC Smout - I especially like his work because he tells
you what happened and lets you draw your own conclusions.
Lesley Robertson
anne.burgess
I should have said the same - go ahead, pick a clan society and join it if
you want.
But don't regard it as a genealogical tool!
Anne
Helen Ramsay
LPeterson <lpet...@bellsouth.net> asked
Thanks and please forgive my ignorance, but what does 'HTH' signify?
>
Hope this helps,
HTH ;-)
Helen
Ed & Joyce Thomas
> LPeterson <lpet...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:37E1A9E7...@bellsouth.net...
> > Hi Anne,
> >
> > Is it that simple to join a clan? I would expect that it would require a
> > sponsor, family documentation or some sort of proof. I hadn't considered
> > joining a clan but then again, I had no idea my family had connections to
> a
> > clan. I would be interested in learning more about it.
>
> You don't "join" a clan - you are born into a clan. What you can join is a
> Clan Society - the different societies have different requirements, but most
> take those who carry a relevant surname - many will also take those who
> have family links, and a few take people "who are interested". You would
> have to contact the relevant Society.
>
> > Certainly I have no idea if my lineage has any such connection and I was
> really
> > trying to determine if Atkinson is an Irish or Scottish surname. I am very
> > intrigued by the massive migration to Ireland and what started the big
> push.
> > I'm on my way to my local musty book store this weekend ASAP.
> > Thanks and please forgive my ignorance, but what does 'HTH' signify?
>
> There has always been free exchange of people between Scotland and Ireland,
> but one major factor was the making available of land in N.Ireland for
> farming by protestant scots (late 18th century I think) - the motives of the
> polititicans were otherwise, but the people who went were mostly economic
> migrants.
> Have a look at my favourite site - Rampant Scotland
> http://www.rampantscotland.com/
> or read the books of TC Smout - I especially like his work because he tells
> you what happened and lets you draw your own conclusions.
>
> Lesley Robertson
Leslie, I'm going to disagree with you. The Ulster Plantations were started by
Jame I & VI about the 1640's and both Lowlanders & Englishmen were encourged to
move to Ulster to hold the Catholic Irish off and to farm large plantations. By
the late 1600's and definitely by 1720, the Ulstermen were so victimized by
famine and greedy English landlords that they started migrating to America.
BTW when they first arrived in America, they called themselves Irish. It was
some preacher that named them the Scotch/Irish in a very derogatory way. It
wasn't until the Great Famine in Ireland in 1850 that the Ulstermen started
calling themselves Scot/Irish to distinguish themselves from the Catholic Irish.
Tiss.