Tracing Clan for Leiper

[Wayne Leiper]

I require help in tracing my Actual Clan.
Info from past persons says that it is Napier But am not to sure.
My Surname is Leiper....
Any info to help me on this would be greatfully Recieved.
Yours in Good Faith
Wayne Leiper

[LVKiltie8703]

>Subject: Tracing Clan for Leiper
>From: "Wayne Leiper" Wmml...@btinternet.com
>Date: 4/9/01 11:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9asu0h$oil$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>

Hi Wayne, Kiltie here. According to Scots Kith & Kin, the primary spelling is
shown as Leaper. The spelling that you use is also spelled with the double
"p".Under Leaper it show that tne name was first used in Edinburgh in the
12thC. and in Buchan in the 13thC. The name is derived from Napier.
Napier(Napper) shown first in Lennox in the 13thC. and is a sept of MacFarlane
firstly and Scott secondly. Under MacFarlane Clan both Leipper and Leaper, and
Napier are shown as septs. Under Scott only Napier is shown as a sept. In
"Scottish Surnames by David Dorward, only the Leiper spelling is shown. There
it says that the name is from the Old English word "leap" meaning basket.
Leiper is pronounced as leaper, refers to the trade of basket weaving and in
Scotland at least has nothing to do with leprosy (leper was pronounced than as
lipper). Black in Surnames of Scotland shows Leaper as the Primary spelling,
plus another spelling Laiper. There he says that a leap was a basket made of
rush or sedge. Black also states that the name has nothing to do with a leper.
He shows that Leiper was first used in 1608 and Leipper in 1711. Johannes Leper
was a burgess of Edinburgh as early as 1189. Bye for now and Best Regards,
Charles Hamilton Leitch.

[Akins of that Ilk]

"Wayne Leiper" <Wmml...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Looks vaguely Germanic, are you certain that it is Scottish?

[Wayne Leiper]

Thank You for your Reply Akins of that Ilk

Fairly Certain, My Father (Now Deceased) once told me that the name came
from East Coast of Scotland,,, A Fishing Viliage.. Ats all i know :-S

" Akins of that Ilk" <sja...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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[Rev Timothy N Nurse]

In article <9avova$8jl$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "Wayne Leiper"
<Wmml...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Thank You for your Reply Akins of that Ilk
>
> Fairly Certain, My Father (Now Deceased) once told me that the name came
> from East Coast of Scotland,,, A Fishing Viliage..

Kincardine and Lanark mainly. Very little in Fife. Appears to be derived
from Leaper. Seem to have moved to Scotland 18thC from Derbyshire
and London in England where it was spelled Leaper/Leeper in 16th/17thC
so it looks like it's an English name.

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[Anne Burgess]

Wayne Leiper wrote:

> I require help in tracing my Actual Clan.
> Info from past persons says that it is Napier But am not to sure.
> My Surname is Leiper....

G F Black's "Surnames of Scotland" says that Leiper or Leaper is from Old
English and means a basket maker (a leap was a basket made of rush or
sedge). The earliest mention is in 1189, and all the early mentions are in
the Lowlands.

Therefore it is most likely that you (like the majority of Scots) have no
clan affiliation, so trying to find your 'actual clan' will be a wild goose
chase.

The name is not uncommon. The longest list of Leipers in any current
Scottish East Coast telephone directory is in the city of Aberdeen, and the
next longest is in the rural North-East (the area around Aberdeen). There
are also quite a lot in Angus.

The name Napier has an entirely different origin and meaning.

HTH

Anne

[Steven Twigg]

Hello Wayne, this is a bit late. I came across your post while looking for the kith and kin of clan Napier as my mother who was a Leiper always told me her clan was Napier and wore a scarf of the Napier tartan. Steve

[D Leeper]

I am the Leeper Y-DNA Project administrator over at FTDNA. We have connected 15 Leepers, 12 who's ancestors went to Ireland at the beginning of the Ulster Plantations and their descendants ending up in Colonial America. Two of these were of County Down, one lived in Annahilt and transferred Churches to Ballynahinch in 1716, records of marriage found, as well as the baptisms of the first four children, all the same show up in the records in Beverly Manor, Augusta, Colonial Virginia, in the importation record, Headrights Land documents, etc. He arrived 1738 in PA and had a survey done in VA, then did a Land Indenture in 23 Feb 1739. He brough six children to America, and also had two more in the Colonies. He also had a brother, whom may have arrived in 1726 to work the Virginia plantations as an indentured servant, skilled trade, records show both of them were blacksmiths. His brother last musters in 1742, also gets in a skirmish with a powerful English man, whom he threatens the very life of. By 1748 he is found mustering in Anson, NC, which became Lincoln and Gaston, his land claims return in 1750, and with a turn around of 4-6 years on those, he was likely there some time before that muster. I have a ton of more information, as well as Cousin Allen Leeper of PA, whom also Y-DNA connects, but a little further back in time.

2 Leepers branch further back in time directly from Scotland, 1611 in Edinburgh, one of their descendants ended up in New Zealand, and we have a third of this group, who is actually a Napier, but doesn't match the majority of Clan Napier, but certainly definitely matches Leeper!

All 15 folks had a common ancestor born circa 1296.

dougl...@gmail.com

[D Leeper]

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 3:08:37 PM UTC-7, Steven Twigg wrote:

I would really like to connect with other Leiper, Leipper, Leaper, Lepper, Leeper folks back in the Old Country, especially for working Y-DNA! Y-DNA does not divide and get diluted like Autosomal DNA (Ancestry, FTDNA, MyHeritage, 23andMe, etc.)