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Honda reflex starting problems

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floyd

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Apr 20, 2006, 4:08:49 PM4/20/06
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Hello once again...This is a weird question I know, but I am new to the
whole scooter thing, so sorry if this is a waste of time...My Honda Reflex,
is having some sort of trouble starting...Now I put the key on, kickstand
up, hold brake in and sometimes nothing...It will take up to 5 minutes of
just clicking the start button or fiddling with the key...I can't figure
out what's going on....The light is coming on, horn blows & signal works as
well ....And when I hit the start the light does goes out for that breif
moment I have my thumb on it...Anyone have any ideas?? Or is something
simple I am just overlooking? Sorry again, I know this is a stupid thing
but maybe one day I can laugh at this and give some other newbie advice


Take care
~~floyd

SoCalMike

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Apr 21, 2006, 1:18:26 AM4/21/06
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floyd wrote:
> Hello once again...This is a weird question I know, but I am new to the
> whole scooter thing, so sorry if this is a waste of time...My Honda Reflex,


its NEVER a waste of time. EVER. youve stumbled onto one of the least
popular usenet groups in existance that ISNT taken over by spambots.

we live to answer questions.

> is having some sort of trouble starting...Now I put the key on, kickstand
> up, hold brake in and sometimes nothing...It will take up to 5 minutes of


there are switches just behind the brake levers and kickstand. look for
em- theyre tiny and hidden, but theyre there. they should be clean and
fully extended out when the levers are pulled and the kickstand is down.
thats the "safeguard" that allows the scooter to start. if one or all
are gummed up and not fully extending itll trick the scooter into
thinking the brakes ARENT pulled, or the sidestand is STILL down.


> just clicking the start button or fiddling with the key...I can't figure
> out what's going on....The light is coming on, horn blows & signal works as
> well ....And when I hit the start the light does goes out for that breif
> moment I have my thumb on it...Anyone have any ideas?? Or is something
> simple I am just overlooking? Sorry again, I know this is a stupid thing
> but maybe one day I can laugh at this and give some other newbie advice

id undo the battery leads, clean the leads and post, take the voltage
(over 12.3v!) and make sure it isnt the battery thats flaky.

*if its a 2002 and the original battery, its likely shot.*

the tiny batteries just dont last much longer than 3 years on a scooter,
even if you do everything you can to maintain them. ive had walmart
batteries last as little as a year :(

i got my burgman 400 in 2003, and the battery is still original. i know
its on borrowed time, though.
>
>
> Take care
> ~~floyd

Pam

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Apr 22, 2006, 3:34:32 PM4/22/06
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Try mnaking sure you are squeezing the brake levers enough. Sometimes I
don't and have the same problems.

Pam
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Bike guy Joe

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Apr 23, 2006, 9:03:02 AM4/23/06
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Take a day and go through the scoot and disconnect and clean all the
contacts. Check your fuses, battery connections switch connections ect.
A bad ground is the second most common problem with electrics....after
a bum battery.

Bob Jones

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Apr 24, 2006, 1:35:02 AM4/24/06
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The battery is low. Charge it up.

In article <Xns97ABA4749CC...@65.24.7.27>, floyd

phreadbarnz

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Apr 24, 2006, 1:00:59 PM4/24/06
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It's not the battery
It's not the contacts
It's the switch on the left brake.
You have to pull it ALL THE WAY IN.
It is very easy to NOT pull it all the way in.

Many on the hondaref...@yahoogroups.com and
reflex...@yahoogroups.com websites use this method to
start their reflexes:
1. Red Kill switch in run position.
2. Side stand up.
3. Key On.
4. Start button pushed.
5. Left brake lever squeezed until starter motor starts.

Steps 1 through 4 are interchangeable. It's step #5 that is critical.

HTH
--
TravlinTim (who struggled with this problem once) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


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Bike guy Joe

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Apr 24, 2006, 6:16:38 PM4/24/06
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phread, usually you just say "I like cheese." 8^)

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 25, 2006, 9:44:17 AM4/25/06
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Heck man,clean the switches and you might as well go to a Scooter store
or a Motorcycle store and buy a good battery charger that they might
reccomend.
cuhulin

Bike guy Joe

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Apr 27, 2006, 10:19:34 PM4/27/06
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It's not the battery
It's not the contacts
It's the switch on the left brake.
You have to pull it ALL THE WAY IN.
It is very easy to NOT pull it all the way in.

Many on the hondareflexown...@yahoogroups.com and
reflexrid...@yahoogroups.com websites use this method to


start their reflexes:
1. Red Kill switch in run position.
2. Side stand up.
3. Key On.
4. Start button pushed.
5. Left brake lever squeezed until starter motor starts.


Steps 1 through 4 are interchangeable. It's step #5 that is critical.


HTH
--
TravlinTim (who struggled with this problem once) Hansen

phreadba...@iwon.com

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> Hello once again...This is a weird question I know, but I am new to the
> whole scooter thing, so sorry if this is a waste of time...My Honda
> Reflex,
> is having some sort of trouble starting...Now I put the key on, kickstand
> up, hold brake in and sometimes nothing...It will take up to 5 minutes of
> just clicking the start button or fiddling with the key...I can't figure
> out what's going on....The light is coming on, horn blows & signal works
> as
> well ....And when I hit the start the light does goes out for that breif
> moment I have my thumb on it...Anyone have any ideas?? Or is something
> simple I am just overlooking? Sorry again, I know this is a stupid thing
> but maybe one day I can laugh at this and give some other newbie advice

> Take care
> ~~floyd

phread, usually you just say "I like cheese." 8^)
Sorry, phread, how was that?

phreadbarnz

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Apr 27, 2006, 11:24:18 PM4/27/06
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"Bike guy Joe" <jetst...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> phread, usually you just say "I like cheese." 8^)
> Sorry, phread, how was that?
>
Ya see "Joe", I aim to be helpful when I can. When I say I like cheese it
is my way of being helpful in a slightly different manner.

--
TravlinTim (who likes extra sharp cheddar from Oregon) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


floyd

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Apr 28, 2006, 8:34:00 AM4/28/06
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Thanks all for the kind advice, I really appreciate it. I gave it a little
tune up as best I could. I knew it already had a brand new battery as that
was the first thing I did...As phreadbarnz said, it was not squeezing the
brake hard enough.....Mighty odd I thought, as i had never remembered
having to squeeze it that hard to start her up before...But, I just went
out squeezed for all it was worth and it cranked right up....tried same
thing off and on over the next few days and have had no problems since...I
thank all of you once again

Take Care
~~floyd

Bike guy Joe

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Apr 28, 2006, 9:06:52 AM4/28/06
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...As phreadbarnz said, it was not squeezing the
brake hard enough....

Well there ya go phread, ya' done good.

Peace.

SoCalMike

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Apr 28, 2006, 2:48:19 PM4/28/06
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Bike guy Joe wrote:
> ....As phreadbarnz said, it was not squeezing the

> brake hard enough....
>
> Well there ya go phread, ya' done good.

might wanna squirt the switch with some contact cleaner, make sure it
isnt getting gummed up.
>
> Peace.
>

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 28, 2006, 6:31:19 PM4/28/06
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Ahhhh,the good old days of the good old Scooters (such as the good old
Cushmans and ecetera and et al) when all you had to do was raise that
kick starter pedal up and kick it on down.Life is sooooo complicated
nowdays.
cuhulin

phreadbarnz

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Apr 29, 2006, 2:29:45 AM4/29/06
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Life is only complicated if you fail to read the manual......
--
TravlinTim (who is livin' easy) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


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cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 29, 2006, 9:37:46 AM4/29/06
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Yeah,but LQQK.Those old kick start Motor Scooters, (and Motorcycles)
they each had their own style and engine sounds.You could tell one from
another a mile away,sort of like those Automobiles of the 1950's.Even at
night time,you could tell which car was which by their tail lights going
down the road.

Of course those old kick start two wheelers would work you half to death
trying to get them started if they weren't in good shape.The big old
kick start Motorcycles,you literally had to stand up on those kick
starters.

Long Live Kick Starters,,, and Rope Pull Lawn Mowers and Outboard Boat
Engines.
Hip Hip Hooray,Hip Hip Hooray,Hip Hip Hooray.
cuhulin

Bike guy Joe

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Apr 30, 2006, 8:43:25 AM4/30/06
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phread, wasn't that a "top post"?

Bike guy Joe

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Apr 30, 2006, 8:43:19 AM4/30/06
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phreadbarnz

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May 1, 2006, 1:50:53 AM5/1/06
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"Bike guy Joe" <jetst...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> phread, wasn't that a "top post"?
>
Wasn't <what> a "top post"?
You see, once I read a post, it vanishes from my list, so when you come
along and respond to it the way you do, it makes no sense whatsoever. But
you know that. Far be it for me to point out how idiotic that makes you
seem......

--
TravlinTim (who left the entire post so that others will understand) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


cuh...@webtv.net

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May 1, 2006, 3:20:43 AM5/1/06
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www.hometownfreepress.com FLORIDA.I dont live in FLORIDA.
cuhulin

Bike guy Joe

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May 1, 2006, 8:04:01 AM5/1/06
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phreadbarnz has pronounce me an idiot....my life is over.

lighten up phread your life is getting shorter by the day.

Happy riding.

You DO ride don't you?

phreadbarnz

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May 1, 2006, 5:28:19 PM5/1/06
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"Bike guy Joe" <jetst...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yeah. I ride everyday to work. I ride on the weekends for pleasure. I
ride to do errands.

I also leave part (or all) of posts so that when I reply people know what
I'm talking about.

Not to beat a dead horse, but "cuhulin" just posted this to the same thread
[Re: Honda reflex starting problems]

<quote>


www.hometownfreepress.com FLORIDA.I dont live in FLORIDA.
cuhulin

</quote>

Now can someone please tell me what his statement has to do with [Re: Honda
reflex starting problems]?

--
TravlinTim (who doubts anyone will see the light, but will continue to shine
it anyway) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


schmitt...@gmail.com

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May 9, 2018, 12:27:47 AM5/9/18
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Scooter will not start when I pull the rear break with the side kickstand up.

de...@derpdi.derp

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May 20, 2018, 7:28:09 PM5/20/18
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> Scooter will not start when I pull the rear break with the side kickstand up.

So, does it start with the kickstand down? If yes then most likely it's
a faulty safety switch, usually located on the brake lever bracket. Those
are pretty flimsy and fail regularly; most people just open them up and
twist the wires together to bypass the switch.
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