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Vespa ET2 vs. Honda Metropolitan

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Armando Iglesias

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Oct 30, 2001, 11:21:00 PM10/30/01
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I am looking at these two and they seem to be very comparable.
Although, the price differential is amazing:

$2950 for the Vespa vs. $1699 for the Honda

Can anyone clue me in on why the Vespa is $1251 more than the Honda?
I must be missing something.
Thanks

(Still waiting for the Habana Custom) :(


Scooter

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Oct 31, 2001, 12:38:55 AM10/31/01
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The Vespa name.

Don't get me wrong, Vespa makes fine scooters. However, they do not
represent a good value for the dollar. They are not necessarily
better than Honda's or Yamaha's or Kymco's, or Derbi's ... they have
just been around for a long time, and you pay a "well-known brand"
premium.

You'll have as much fun on the Honda as you will the Vespa, but you
won't be accepted into some scooter clubs since you won't have a "cool
european" scooter brand.

If the designer name is word $1,200 to you, get the Vespa ... if it is
irrelevant, get the Honda. Vespa's are considered as much works of
art, as trhey are scooters. Granted, some models of Honda's aren't
the prettiest things to look at, but when you make it yours, it
becomes pretty in your own eyes.

Honda makes good, reliable, fun scooters.

Quality-wise, performance-wise, reliability-wise .... zero difference,
IMHO.

There are some lemon scooters to stay away from, II think twist-n-go,
some chinese made brands, and a couple others mentioned on this group
lack in the quality department .. but not Honda.

Jeff Saunders

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Oct 31, 2001, 4:45:45 AM10/31/01
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Don't forget Marketing 101. When you enter a market, and especially
with a product that is a luxury good or is a basic good which is distinct,

then you "skim the cream" from the "early adopters". Meaning?
Products are expensive when newly introduced (especially in a limited
market), and get cheaper as competition for the customer dollar and
brand space increases.

- Jeff

autoilija

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Oct 31, 2001, 7:39:30 AM10/31/01
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> On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 04:21:00 GMT, "Armando Iglesias"
> <aigl...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I am looking at these two and they seem to be very comparable.
> >Although, the price differential is amazing:
> >
> >$2950 for the Vespa vs. $1699 for the Honda
> >
Well the $2950 is a lot for a moped. However, a real scooter, namely
ET4 seems to be cheap compared ET2 when the difference is only $1k.
I've never heard of Metropolitan but normally the mopeds cost almost
the same. Although there exemptions like Piaggio Zip being € 1k
cheaper than NRG eXtreme, which btw is more expensive than ET2. If I
would buy a moped, I would go for ET2, Gilera Runner 50 or even
Peugeot Speedfight2 50.
But if the difference between ET2 and Et4 is so small I would consider
ET4.
Here the prices for Vespas are: ET2: €2674, ET4: 4692 + insurance a
lot cheaper for ET2 because registered as a moped.

Michael Reed

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Oct 31, 2001, 10:15:54 AM10/31/01
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Armando,
I recently bought a ET2 and somehow missed the option of a
Metropolitan. I'm sickened to see what a nice machine Honda is putting
out for much less money. Go w/ the Honda!

-Mike

BeachCruiser

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Oct 31, 2001, 10:39:11 AM10/31/01
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Jeff,
I tried to mail you but it bounced (??).
I read your letter regarding the Habana 150. Great job!
I don't have the whole picture here though. Does Aprilia no want to
import the Habana unless it can market all of the versions? IE the
50cc, 150cc, etc...
Is the Habana 50cc in question also regarding safety?
I am basically wondering if this hold up is affecting the bringing in
of the Habana 50cc anytime soon. Are there plans to bring it in solo
withing the next few months?

Thanks,

Jeff Saunders <f...@bar.com> wrote in message news:<3BDFC7D5...@bar.com>...

Dave

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Oct 31, 2001, 3:34:46 PM10/31/01
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Seems like someone always has to drop this suggestion in...

Have you considered the Yamaha Vino? It is very similar to both the
ET2 and the Metropolitan, is easy to derestrict, and there are lots of
performance parts readily available for it. A well built, well
designed scoot... I love mine. MSRP is currently $1699, but no one
should have to pay that. I got mine for $1614, that includes licensing
and fees. Also, the Vino has been around for a few years and has been
able to work up a good track record, whereas no one knows much about
the Metropolitan right now, and Vespa (I may be getting crucified for
this one again) hasn't maintained a very good record in the States
since they were reintroduced here...

Good luck and let us know what you decide on.

"Armando Iglesias" <aigl...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<M_KD7.532296$8c3.89...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>...

Jeff Saunders

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Nov 1, 2001, 2:17:02 AM11/1/01
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Yeah, f...@bar.com is a spam foiler. If you want to mail me directly,
go to 2StrokeSmoke on Yahoo groups and you can link to me from there.

Not sure what I said about the Habana 150, but the basics of the US market
are pretty similar for anything above 50cc. I can't say what Aprilia does
or does not want to do other than what is in the public media (I don't have
any connections to any manufacturers), but the old party line for most
scooter companies was "there's no market". That appears to be changing.

- Jeff

Veljko

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Nov 11, 2001, 11:34:46 AM11/11/01
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Michael Reed <mr...@ll.mit.edu> wrote in message news:<3BE015AA...@ll.mit.edu>...

> Armando,
> I recently bought a ET2 and somehow missed the option of a
> Metropolitan. I'm sickened to see what a nice machine Honda is putting
> out for much less money. Go w/ the Honda!
>
> -Mike
>
Mike,

Are you interested in selling the ET2?

To compare the three neo-classic scotters, the Yamaha Vino and the
Vespa Et2 are both 2-stroke engines although Vespa's is very advanced
and meets stringent 2002 European emission standards. The Honda
Metropolitan on the other hand has a four stroke engine, so emissions
are much lower.

The problem is that the Metropolitan's official release date is in
April of next year. Fine for most, but not early enought for some in
the warmer parts of the country.

Veljko

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