buying a yamaha zuma 125
etr...@gmail.com
bought a scooter before, and am going to get a zuma 125. all the local
dealers have the bike listed for $2999, and have several hundred
dollars of markups for assembly, etc. one dealer told me the bike was
$3700 out the door which seems terribly high. he also said that yamaha
had 9.99% financing which seems high.
I've heard the invoice price for these is around $2700, but looking
around online there are only a couple of resources that i've found
that try to sell you an actual invoice price. i'm interested in
offering the dealer his invoice price plus a couple of hundred dollars
out the door. can anyone shed some light on this? what's a good way to
negotiate the price of a bike for a first-time buyer?
thanks.
paul c
Personally, I think no first time scoot buyer who cares that much about
cost should buy new, at least in the peak selling season. There are
just too many variables, many having to do with unrealistic expectations
on the buyer's part. Just how to find a good used scoot for a
first-timer I'll leave to the other regulars here, except to say that it
helps to know a serious mechanic to check a used one over. Having blown
a lot on scoots over the years, I recommend patience. Just my two cents.
Denizen
> i have read the flame wars on here and i'm really confused. i've never
> bought a scooter before, and am going to get a zuma 125. all the local
> dealers have the bike listed for $2999, and have several hundred
> dollars of markups for assembly, etc. one dealer told me the bike was
> $3700 out the door which seems terribly high. he also said that yamaha
> had 9.99% financing which seems high.
>
$3900 or some such number).
Congratulations on your choice of scooter. The bigger (125) Zuma looks
like a very good machine.
d.
SoCalMike
> i have read the flame wars on here and i'm really confused. i've never
> bought a scooter before, and am going to get a zuma 125. all the local
not a bad choice, IMO.
> dealers have the bike listed for $2999, and have several hundred
thats MSRP, correct?
> dollars of markups for assembly, etc. one dealer told me the bike was
assembly and setup fees are bullshit, basically. but if therye the only
dealer, youre kinda stuck. i got my yamaha tmax for a hundred bucks over
MSRP. and that was "out the door", including sales tax, license, and
registration.
> $3700 out the door which seems terribly high. he also said that yamaha
> had 9.99% financing which seems high.
you have to figure out what your sales tax is, if any. thats usually the
biggest chunk. as for the financing? shop around. if your credit is
good, you should be able to beat 10% easily.
>
> I've heard the invoice price for these is around $2700, but looking
> around online there are only a couple of resources that i've found
> that try to sell you an actual invoice price. i'm interested in
good luck on that. as long as they have suckers willing to pay top
dollar, theyre gonna get top dollar. theres a dealership in california
and colorado called otdmotorsports. they quote an "out the door" price.
> offering the dealer his invoice price plus a couple of hundred dollars
> out the door. can anyone shed some light on this? what's a good way to
> negotiate the price of a bike for a first-time buyer?
if you can do better than MSRP plus tax, id say youre ahead of the game.
theyre only going to sell below MSRP if the thing is collecting dust on
the sales floor.
>
> thanks.
etr...@gmail.com
have my choice of dealers. I went to several over the weekend and a
few of them have a couple of them sitting on the floor, which means
that prices will probably be negotiable. we'll see. the hardest part
for me is stomaching $4k for a 125cc scooter, which I'm not willing to
do. I think it's the best scooter for what I need, so I'm going to
wait and get it for a fair price. I'm in no rush.
Thanks again! I'll let you know how it goes.
--evan
SoCalMike
youre in southern california, so try
http://www.otdcyclesports.com/?bikes/view&bik_id:570
if the link doesnt work, go to www.otdcyclesports.com and take it from
there.
theyre legit, and theyre good. the price they are going to quote you is
an out the door price, all taxes, fees, registration included. if you
like the price, you need to CALL and CONFIRM. make sure you get a
contact name. ive gone through bob gregor with both of my sales (yamaha
XT225, yamaha TMax)over the past 3 yrs.
each time i paid about $100 over MSRP, but that was the OTD price. i
know i saved at least $900 each time over other dealers. some
salesslimeballs wouldnt even bother asking their bosses if theyd match
price.
nope, dont work for em- just extremely satisfied. their yamaha
dearlerships on lincoln blvd in marina del rey, just so ya know...
SoCalMike
> etr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> : the hardest part
> :for me is stomaching $4k for a 125cc scooter, which I'm not willing to
> :do.
>
> --
last time i checked, a good new rebel was about $3000. bang for the
buck, scooters are NOT frugal. therye fun, though. and different. i just
spent $8099 on a scooter a month ago, and i dont regret it.
etr...@gmail.com
> etro...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks for the good advice. Luckily, being in Southern California I
> > have my choice of dealers. I went to several over the weekend and a
> > few of them have a couple of them sitting on the floor, which means
> > that prices will probably be negotiable. we'll see. the hardest part
> > for me is stomaching $4k for a 125cc scooter, which I'm not willing to
> > do. I think it's the best scooter for what I need, so I'm going to
> > wait and get it for a fair price. I'm in no rush.
>
> > Thanks again! I'll let you know how it goes.
>
> > --evan
>
> youre in southern california, so try
>
> http://www.otdcyclesports.com/?bikes/view&bik_id:570
>
> there.
>
> theyre legit, and theyre good. the price they are going to quote you is
> an out the door price, all taxes, fees, registration included. if you
> like the price, you need to CALL and CONFIRM. make sure you get a
> contact name. ive gone through bob gregor with both of my sales (yamaha
> XT225, yamaha TMax)over the past 3 yrs.
>
> each time i paid about $100 over MSRP, but that was the OTD price. i
> know i saved at least $900 each time over other dealers. some
> salesslimeballs wouldnt even bother asking their bosses if theyd match
> price.
>
> nope, dont work for em- just extremely satisfied. their yamaha
> dearlerships on lincoln blvd in marina del rey, just so ya know...
they are $500 over MSRP. seems like everyone charges these extra fees
to capitalize on the so-called scooter craze.
SoCalMike
>
> they are $500 over MSRP. seems like everyone charges these extra fees
> to capitalize on the so-called scooter craze.
thats OTD's quoted out the door price? considering some places charge
$500 for setup and another $300 for delivery, and tax on top of all
that, im not sure youre going to do better but you can try.
etr...@gmail.com
yeah, that's what i ended up paying today. i got my zuma 125!
Kent Murdick
I have a Zuma (50cc) and am not happy with it. I bought it new and
have 9,000 miles on it. The dealer was not very good to me, and I've
continually had problems. A friend bought a Yamaha motorcyle and had
many problems with it. This may be all coincidence, but I thought you
should know. Honda, on the other hand, seems more reliable.
SoCalMike
> I have a Zuma (50cc) and am not happy with it. I bought it new and
> have 9,000 miles on it. The dealer was not very good to me, and I've
> continually had problems. A friend bought a Yamaha motorcyle and had
> many problems with it. This may be all coincidence, but I thought you
> should know. Honda, on the other hand, seems more reliable.
theres a big difference between the 50cc 2 stroke, and the 125cc 4
stroke. what kind of problems? 9k miles is a decent amount for a 50cc
engine...
im on my second yamaha. first was (and is) an XT225 dualsport. no
problems, love it.
the latest is a yamaha TMax. no problems, love it... build quality is
actually nicer than any honda ive had and worldwide reviews suggest
reliability will be at least as good as anything honda makes.
and ive had hondas... 5 honda scooters. all were nice, no problems with
any of them. the dealer was no better than any of the others ive dealt
with either. most dealers are multi-line, so often honda, kawasaki,
yamaha and suzuki are carried by the same dealership.
i do all my own work, so dealership service means nearly nothing to me.
i basically shop purely on price, so OTDcyclesports is the only place i
go. any warranty stuff can be handled by my local ripoff center.
sorry your dealership sucks... hope you find a better one!