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Andy Woodward

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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Assuming you had a 2stroke and you couldnt get 2stroke oil. What would be a good substitute
a) long term and b) short term.
And what damage would it do?

Elvis Presley

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In article <azw.12209...@aber.ac.uk>, Andy Woodward
<a...@aber.ac.uk> writes

This answer is actually more serious than it sounds. I have been told a
number of times that you can use vegetable (cooking) oil in strokers. I
thought this was preposterous. After all, how could anything which burns
with such a complicated smell as 2 stroke oil be so simple?

Anyway, whilst working on my moped, I received a mouthful of motul
injector synthetic oil. It tastes like Mazola.

Go on Adny - give it a try.
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Barry Richards

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In article <azw.12209...@aber.ac.uk>, Andy Woodward
<a...@aber.ac.uk> writes
>Assuming you had a 2stroke and you couldnt get 2stroke oil. What would be a good
>substitute
>a) long term and b) short term.
>And what damage would it do?


I would borrow some money off of a mate ( assuming one has one) and buy
some. You could try Crisp and Dry , or extra virgin olive oil. damage?
you'll find out when dogs chase you up the street smelling like a chip
shop.
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Paul Matthews

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:13:29 +0000, Elvis Presley
<el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Anyway, whilst working on my moped, I received a mouthful of motul
>injector synthetic oil. It tastes like Mazola.
>

So, We have a closet Mazola drinker, able to discern between brands of
ccoking oils?

Paul Matthews
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Elvis Presley

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In article <33089546...@news.u-net.com>, Paul Matthews
<paul...@triton.u-net.com> writes

>On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:13:29 +0000, Elvis Presley
><el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Anyway, whilst working on my moped, I received a mouthful of motul
>>injector synthetic oil. It tastes like Mazola.
>>
>So, We have a closet Mazola drinker, able to discern between brands of
>ccoking oils?
>
Can't everybody?

Julian Bond

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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Andy Woodward <a...@aber.ac.uk> wrote:
>Assuming you had a 2stroke and you couldnt get 2stroke oil. What would be a good
>substitute
>a) long term and b) short term.
>And what damage would it do?

On MZs you can use the gearbox oil in emergencies, just don't do it
twice and try and remember to put some more back in.

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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In article <azw.12209...@aber.ac.uk>, Andy Woodward wrote:
>Assuming you had a 2stroke and you couldnt get 2stroke oil. What would be a good
> substitute
>a) long term and b) short term.
>And what damage would it do?

Use what I did before two-stroke oil was generally available -- use
a 30-grade motor oil. Probably best to get a straight- rather than multi-
grade, to have fewer additives. It may lead to faster plug-fouling and
more carbon build-up but that's no great problem for an experienced
two-stroke owner.

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Janice in NYC

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:03:33 GMT, paul...@triton.u-net.com (Paul
Matthews) wrote:

>>Anyway, whilst working on my moped, I received a mouthful of motul
>>injector synthetic oil. It tastes like Mazola.
>>
>So, We have a closet Mazola drinker, able to discern between brands

We oil connosieuers can EASILY taste the difference between different
brands and types of vegetable, animal, and motor oils.

>of ccoking oils?

While there's nothing in the books that says you can't, the question
is, _why_ would you want to use oil while coking? You're
unnecessarily adding in more saturated fat, reducing the purity of
your coke and increasing the probability that you will die from
coronary heart disease. It's completely pointless. But to each their
own, I suppose............

Mike Fleming

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On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:13:29 +0000, Elvis Presley
<el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Anyway, whilst working on my moped, I received a mouthful of motul
> injector synthetic oil. It tastes like Mazola.

Did your moped respect you in the morning, though?

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Andy Woodward

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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>>Assuming you had a 2stroke and you couldnt get 2stroke oil. What would be a
>good
>> substitute
>>a) long term and b) short term.
>>And what damage would it do?

> Use what I did before two-stroke oil was generally available -- use
>a 30-grade motor oil. Probably best to get a straight- rather than multi-
>grade, to have fewer additives. It may lead to faster plug-fouling and
>more carbon build-up but that's no great problem for an experienced
>two-stroke owner.

So, since puff-chariots are specified for synth 2stroke oil, would this mean
that you would be safer using something like Mobil 1?

PS, PX200 coming this weekend (again............)

Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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Hmm, you'd be better off asking a real chemist like Fire-iron about
that one.

>PS, PX200 coming this weekend (again............)

What, the NGG sent you a Valentine's _present_ as well as cards?
BTW, What are you doing with the GS?

William Fullerton

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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A bloke called gary who used to work for Oxford Instruments in Abington
once told me that he used frying oil in his two stroke. Both during his
test and subsquent pass until he got a four stroke.
I laughed at this, thinking "yeah right", but a few years later one of the
bike mags did a interview with instructors and one from oxford mention some
crazy loon whose bike smelled like a fish&chip shop cause he used frying
oil!!!

willie

ps. I would not recommend frying oil as a bike oil

andy the pugh

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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In article <01bc19ce$4b71ae30$48bc75c1@nt4_pc>, the moving finger of
full...@diasemi.co.uk wrote...

>
>A bloke called gary who used to work for Oxford Instruments in Abington
>once told me that he used frying oil in his two stroke.

Performing Berks dis a 2-stroke oils test a year or so back. Far the laugh
they put some cooking oil through the same tests. It came out very well,
second in the scuff resistance tests. Vegetable oils have very good film
strength, they just tend to cook and form gummy deposits in engines.

Castrol-R is a vegetable oil. The name 'Castrol' is derived from 'Castor
Oil'.

ap


Trevor Dennis

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Feb 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/14/97
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andy the pugh <A.C....@shef.ac.uk> said

>
>Castrol-R is a vegetable oil. The name 'Castrol' is derived from 'Castor
>Oil'.

/Micheal Cain voice on.

Not many people know that.

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Simon Pontin

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Feb 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/14/97
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Should be:

Noh-uh-loh-uh-peepul-know-dat...

Julian Bond

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Feb 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/14/97
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Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> wrote

>andy the pugh <A.C....@shef.ac.uk> said
>>Castrol-R is a vegetable oil. The name 'Castrol' is derived from
>>'Castor Oil'.
>/Micheal Caine voice on.

> Not many people know that.

You know, I don't think I'm going to let you stay in the film business.

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Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility

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Feb 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/16/97
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In article <01bc19ce$4b71ae30$48bc75c1@nt4_pc>, William Fullerton wrote:
>A bloke called gary who used to work for Oxford Instruments in Abington
>once told me that he used frying oil in his two stroke.

Which just confirms some of the stories I've heard about Oxford
Instruments...

Mick Whittingham

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Feb 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/16/97
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In article <slrn5gdsg6....@PSW086.PSI.CH>, "Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR
Facility" <re...@psi.ch> writes

>In article <01bc19ce$4b71ae30$48bc75c1@nt4_pc>, William Fullerton wrote:
>>A bloke called gary who used to work for Oxford Instruments in Abington
>>once told me that he used frying oil in his two stroke.
>
> Which just confirms some of the stories I've heard about Oxford
>Instruments...
>
It's sort of common for the locals to use coconut oil in car engines in
Guyana (French, Dutch or English). Don't know about 2T though.
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Elvis Presley

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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In article <3301d8c8...@news.demon.co.uk>, Mike Fleming
<mi...@tauzero.demon.co.uk> writes

>On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 19:13:29 +0000, Elvis Presley
><el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, whilst working on my moped, I received a mouthful of motul
>> injector synthetic oil. It tastes like Mazola.
>
>Did your moped respect you in the morning, though?
>

No, it dumped me. Several times.


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Ian Vincent

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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Mick Whittingham (Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <slrn5gdsg6....@PSW086.PSI.CH>, "Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR

: Facility" <re...@psi.ch> writes
: >In article <01bc19ce$4b71ae30$48bc75c1@nt4_pc>, William Fullerton wrote:
: >>A bloke called gary who used to work for Oxford Instruments in Abington
: >>once told me that he used frying oil in his two stroke.
: >
: > Which just confirms some of the stories I've heard about Oxford
: >Instruments...
: >
: It's sort of common for the locals to use coconut oil in car engines in
: Guyana (French, Dutch or English). Don't know about 2T though.

I saw some programme about Cuba and they made brake fluid from shampoo and
sugar.

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Elvis Presley

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In article <19970217.E1...@binny.demon.co.uk>, Ian Vincent
<i...@binny.demon.co.uk> writes

>I saw some programme about Cuba and they made brake fluid from shampoo and
>sugar.

I suppose it's better than making shampoo and sugar out of brake fluid!

William Fullerton

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Feb 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/18/97
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"Jeremy Clarksons Motorworld" I believe.
Talking (?) about Top Gear, I don't think Steve Berry was too overjoyed
about the t595.
Give the bike to me, I'll thrash it down to the south of france and try
some of the local circuits there.

willie

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steve harrison

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In article <slrn5g3sv1....@PSW086.PSI.CH>, "Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR
Facility" <re...@psi.ch> writes

>more carbon build-up but that's no great problem for an experienced
>two-stroke owner.
>
he he he. I know its childish but ain`t it fun to take things out of
context ;))

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Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility

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In article <azw.12209...@aber.ac.uk>, Andy Woodward wrote:

>Assuming you had a 2stroke and you couldnt get 2stroke oil. What would be a good

> substitute
>a) long term and b) short term.
>And what damage would it do?

So, Adny, how's the new scooter going?

Andy Woodward

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> So, Adny, how's the new scooter going?

I'll let you know if Piaggio ever get roun to supplying one >:-[

I'd guess the GS500 will peg out before one is delivered and I'll at that
point, say 'Stuff Piaggio' and buy a CG125.

What is it with Piaggio that makes them so completely unable to supply
products to folk who hae the money siutting there ready fro immediate sale?

Incompetents!

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