AGM battery replacements for standard cycle batts.
Animeniac
fillable ones?`
Are there cross references?
YB10L-A2 for instance.
Or am I going to run into charging systems on older bikes that are
incompatible with sealed batteries?
Anime arimasu ka? (Got Anime?)
tomcas
lead-acid batteries. As long as it's the right voltage, capacity
(amp-hours), size, and terminals, you can use it to replace a like
lead-acid type.
R. LaCasse
|>Does anyone know if there are sealed batteries that will replace regular
|>fillable ones?`
|>Are there cross references?
|>
|>YB10L-A2 for instance.
|>
|>Or am I going to run into charging systems on older bikes that are
|>incompatible with sealed batteries?
|>
The AGM/"Gel"/SLA/MF are interchangeable if you have the same specs,
and there must be one somewhere......usually some Chinese type which is OK
if you top it up once a month or leave it on charge...but the price is
right.
I prefer the non MF or non Screwed, since a lot of Sealed batteries
are still WET, and they do loose some water if your in a hurry charging
them.
Most ppl call WET SEALED Gel/AGM and other names, but they are still
WET on the manufacturers Specs., so "regular refillable ones" are an asset.
A lot of MF batts are made that way for public safety, since a lot
of ppl don't realize the possible hazards despite all the sticker postings
on them.
A reliable source for aftermakets and availability would be:
|>www.batterydirect.com
|>
|>www.discover-energy.com
|>
|>www.storedenergysolutions.com
..............the there's google, where these battery matches would come in
quantity purchased with no warranty if purchased "wholesale"....
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R. LaCasse
Although AGM needs a higher Voltage to properly charge, voltage that
your Scooter/M-cycle's alternator does not generate enough of in city, some
hi-way environments, unless your in a dirt biking or other racing
environment.
AGM's usually need a monthly topping charge which neat items like
the Battery Tender Jr/Plus (13.3float) do NOT have, but the Optima and most
small car chargers have when in AGM/Gel mode (13.7float).
The older chargers will charge, but not to the AGMs FULL capacity,
but some older chargers have an absorption charge of 15volt/7.5volt as in
Foto SLA/AGM batteries...
Bob
paul c
This may be a little late for the OP, but spring is coming, so maybe
somebody will be interested in this link:
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/pdfs/2009_yuasa_apps_specs.pdf
There is a cross-reference for a number of non-Yuasa brands starting
around page 14.
Regarding charging, I believe the only important incompatibility would
be with gel batteries, which are aimed at 'deep-cycle' applications and
so are extremely rare in the small sizes that bikes and scoots use
(maybe non-existent for all I know). The most common sealed batteries
aka MF/'maintenance-free' types of batteries apparently require
fractionally higher voltages than the refillable kind, but the
difference is something like a tenth or fifth of a volt, so I wouldn't
worry, I would think the difference isn't noticeable, after all, the
charging voltage varies quite a lot depending on engine speed.
Bob
My 4 stage Shumacher SC1200A absorb charges at less voltage in
AGM/Gel, but the float/charge is about 2 volts higher....
Most M/Cycle Scoot batteries are some form of AGM, but Gels are more
like Golf carts, RVs, and are being replaced by AGMs, which vary a whole
hell of a lot in quality, making a charging decision a bit more
difficult.....
AGMs never seem to heat up, AFAIK, but some expert may know better.
Bob
Animeniac
That is a very useful site for battery info. Thanks.