Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

@#%@%!!!

2 views
Skip to first unread message

Powder Hound

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 11:42:12 AM8/30/06
to
I'm sick of sitting at red lights because the
motion/metal/weight/whatever sensor doesn't realize my scooter is there
and just stays red until a car comes up behind me. Is there a better
placement at the light that I'm not doing?

bwilms

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 1:24:44 PM8/30/06
to
I found the following link on the topic via a Google search:
http://nyscooterclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27189&sid=63b21a7d132edced8578bfb1eaa5f766

I have the same problem, so I'll have to try some of these out and see
if they help.

Brett

Powder Hound

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 1:56:08 PM8/30/06
to
I'm gonna slap > http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BX0X06BR
to the bottom of my scooter frame and see what happens. Will let you
know.

Tralfalmador

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 7:53:11 PM8/30/06
to
I've experienced this problem, too. I feel your frustration. I wonder
if anyone can address your questions regarding legality of dismounting
and pressing the pedestrian button or even proceeding through the red
light after some time?

Gregg

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 8:33:44 PM8/30/06
to
I went to a CarToys shop and they gave me a discarded 6" speaker, which I
stripped down to just the magnet.

I sanded the paint off the bottom of my frame, slathered some Elmers
Carpenters Glue onto the magnet and slapped it on.

That was 5 years ago, the magnet is still there, the lights get triggered
IF I pull up over the cut in the road where the sensor wire is.

Gregg
.....................................................................
"bwilms" <brett...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156958684.2...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...

phreadbarnz

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 9:21:54 PM8/30/06
to

"Powder Hound" <867...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:oliJg.24250$uH6....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Instead of spending money on 'fixes', I've taken to calling the governmental
agency that is responsible for the intersection. Call them and let them
know that their sensors are defective as they do not respond to your legally
licensed, tax paying vehicle. Sometimes it takes two or three calls, but if
you get squeaky enough, the powers that be will eventually fix it to get rid
of the annoyance.

Another solution is what some bicycle riders will do, turn right, make a U
turn, then turn right again. Obviously that only works in some situations.
Others have reported that they have run the red light when it is safe to do
so. That works 100% of the time (that you don't get caught by law
enforcement). If you DO get stopped by a LEO, then it is an grand time to
tell the JUDGE of the problem with the city's/county's/state's signal
sensors.

On my Honda Reflex I usually stop over a corner of the cut. Sometimes I
will reach back with my left foot and drop my center stand. And I've also
stopped and started my engine. All of these seem to work.

--
TravlinTim (who doesn't believe in snake oil) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


Message has been deleted

cuh...@webtv.net

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 10:14:21 PM8/30/06
to
Gimme an old Cushman Motorscooter anyday.I have owned two of them before
I never experienced the problems you talk about.
cuhulin

SoCalMike

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 11:15:19 PM8/30/06
to


yes. look at the road, and position your scooter over one of the lines
parallel to the direction of travel. if its a circle, aim for one side
of the circle or the other. i can trip about 95% of the lights on my
B400 this way. before, it was hit or miss.

i can even extend the time the arrow stays yellow if im in a line of
cars, by aiming for the sensor wire.

SoCalMike

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 11:17:17 PM8/30/06
to
Powder Hound wrote:
> I'm gonna slap > http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BX0X06BR
> to the bottom of my scooter frame and see what happens. Will let you
> know.

any magnet thats strong enough should work just fine.

hm. how about making a strong electromagnet that operates off 12v, with
a momentary contact switch near the handlebars.... hmmmmmm.

SoCalMike

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 11:18:41 PM8/30/06
to
Tralfalmador wrote:
> I've experienced this problem, too. I feel your frustration. I wonder
> if anyone can address your questions regarding legality of dismounting
> and pressing the pedestrian button or even proceeding through the red
> light after some time?

ive gone through them in the wee night hours. if theres *nobody* around,
that means there isnt a cop around :)

OTOH, most often, i turn righht, then find aplace to make a left u-turn.
same difference, but more legal.

SoCalMike

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 11:20:25 PM8/30/06
to
Gregg wrote:
> I went to a CarToys shop and they gave me a discarded 6" speaker, which I
> stripped down to just the magnet.
>
> I sanded the paint off the bottom of my frame, slathered some Elmers
> Carpenters Glue onto the magnet and slapped it on.

i didnt know carpenters glue can stick metal to metal. id probably wrap
some duct tape around the works instead.

SoCalMike

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 11:26:46 PM8/30/06
to
phreadbarnz wrote:

> On my Honda Reflex I usually stop over a corner of the cut. Sometimes I
> will reach back with my left foot and drop my center stand. And I've also
> stopped and started my engine. All of these seem to work.
>

magnets arent snake oil. theyre just magnets. and in theory, a magnet
thats strong enough should help trip the sensor.

Message has been deleted

Gregg

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 12:17:39 AM8/31/06
to

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BIqdnaQcFpnnyGvZ...@comcast.com...
....................................................................................................................................
Actually the glue is redundant, the grip of a six inch magnet is more than
strong enough.


Android Cat

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 6:35:26 AM8/31/06
to

Except in places where there's no legal right turn on a red like Quebec.

I am amazed by the people who design light systems that won't give a
pedestrian Walk signal unless the button is pressed--and then they stick the
button on a post 15' away from the corner where it's going to be surrounded
by mud and water on wet days, and snow banks in the winter time. Exactly
how is someone on one of those electric mobility scooters going to get to
the button and hopefully get back to the corner before the 5 second window
when the Walk is white (rather amber-flashing) is up?

All bow down before the wants and whims of King Car!

--
Ron Sharp.


Bike guy Joe

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 8:26:50 AM8/31/06
to

I just pull up far enough to let the car behind me trip it. If there
is no car, I wait "long enough" and go.

Russell

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 8:39:24 AM8/31/06
to
Tralfalmador wrote:
> I've experienced this problem, too. I feel your frustration. I wonder
> if anyone can address your questions regarding legality of dismounting
> and pressing the pedestrian button or even proceeding through the red
> light after some time?

Check your state laws. Recently some states, including mine, changed
the law so that a scooterist or motorcyclist could, IIRC, treat a red
light like a 4-way stop if you sit there for awhile and it won't change
(and it is clear). I'm certain that the law was changed to address
this, but I could be off on the specifics of how you're supposed to get
across. I can't recall if you can go straight across or if you have to
turn right first, etc. But the laws did change in a number of states to
address this very issue. Good luck.

R

phreadbarnz

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 11:08:05 AM8/31/06
to

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vIydnc6RXolqy2vZ...@comcast.com...

Magnets sold as "Green Light Triggers" and "Fuel Line Magnets" and "Feel
Good Magnets" are all snake oil.
My solution of calling the local authority only costs your time and you
correct the problem for ALL vehicles, not just yours.

--
TravlinTim (who wouldn't buy a bridge either) Hansen
phrea...@iwon.com


az21

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 11:16:38 AM8/31/06
to
I stopped at the police station about this.. the cop, a motorcycle rider,
said to wait an appropriate amount of time and if it did not change, wait
till it was safe and go through it.

I assume I could still get a ticket from an uninformed cop, but I also think
if I did it safely, a judge would find me not guilty.... I suspect a smart
cop would say, ok, but do it safely.

az21
.

"Tralfalmador" <kimcl...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1156981991....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

cuh...@webtv.net

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 1:22:51 PM8/31/06
to
I used to have a powerfull little horseshoe magnet on my keyring.One day
I came back from the food store and I threw my key ring on top of my tv
set and I turned my tv set on.The top part of my tv set's picture was
warped.Then I removed my key ring and the picture went back to normal.
cuhulin

Tralfalmador

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 1:44:31 PM8/31/06
to

Steve wrote:

> I don't even bother to dismount. There's a light sensor to get out of
> my neighborhood onto the main street that my scooter can't trip. I just
> ride up onto the sidewalk from a driveway, hit the pedestrian button and
> when it changes, ride down the handi-ramp back onto the street.
>
> Steve

Fantastic.

SoCalMike

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 8:48:06 PM8/31/06
to
yes. putting a speaker on a TV can do the same thing, and/or make the
colors all wonky.

google for "degaussing"

cuh...@webtv.net

unread,
Sep 1, 2006, 1:32:43 AM9/1/06
to
I once worked at Delta Cotton Oil.Old Henry Hunter always had a piece of
copper wire around his right ankle.One day I asked Henry,Henry,what's
that wire for? He said,,,,, To drain off electstwicity.
cuhulin

0 new messages