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Faux_Pseudo

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Feb 5, 2008, 8:43:08 PM2/5/08
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Today I picked up my new Yamaha C3. Compared to my metro it is fast
and spacious. Compared to my modified metro it is still fast and
still spacious. Compared to my SunL it has a faster pickup but same
top speed and is just a little more spacious. Alas just like the SunL
it hasn't got a kick stand lock. I am only 8 miles in but I am really
happy so far. If only there were accessories for the C3 like a trunk
big enough to hold a full helmet or leg guard mounted storage rack.
But we can't win them all.

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Feb 6, 2008, 12:14:40 AM2/6/08
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Faux_Pseudo wrote:
> happy so far. If only there were accessories for the C3 like a trunk
> big enough to hold a full helmet or leg guard mounted storage rack.
> But we can't win them all.


Isn't the C3 the one that's the picnic cooler on wheels?

Faux_Pseudo

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Feb 6, 2008, 7:24:34 AM2/6/08
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_.-In alt.scooter, Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply wrote the following -._

Thats the one. That cooler gives me lots of room that I didn't have on
the other bikes. On the honda metro a 6'2" person is risking damaged
kneecaps or handle bars.

Blaster

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Feb 6, 2008, 10:25:47 AM2/6/08
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"Faux_Pseudo" <Faux....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Mg8qj.2915$5M1....@newsfe23.lga...

Keep us updated, I'm looking at a C3 come spring, How do you like the brakes
?
Paul


Faux_Pseudo

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Feb 6, 2008, 8:40:07 PM2/6/08
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_.-In alt.scooter, Blaster wrote the following -._

> "Faux_Pseudo" <Faux....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Mg8qj.2915$5M1....@newsfe23.lga...
>> Today I picked up my new Yamaha C3. Compared to my metro it is fast
>> and spacious. Compared to my modified metro it is still fast and
>> still spacious. Compared to my SunL it has a faster pickup but same
>> top speed and is just a little more spacious. Alas just like the SunL
>> it hasn't got a kick stand lock. I am only 8 miles in but I am really
>> happy so far. If only there were accessories for the C3 like a trunk
>> big enough to hold a full helmet or leg guard mounted storage rack.
>> But we can't win them all.
>>
>
> Keep us updated, I'm looking at a C3 come spring, How do you like the brakes
> ?

The breaks work very well even when you factor in 43 MPH on a scooter's
wheel base. I would have to give them top marks over all. Would I
like them to be better? Yes. Would better actually be better? Not
really. If they stopped you any faster then they do now it would
incurage reckless driving. :)

The big negatives right now are the already mentioned lack of a
kickstand lock and that the trunk won't hold a full sized helmet. The
trunk is very long but it isn't very deep.

I have seen a number of posters online complain about the 4.5 inch
clearance but I haven't had that be an issue on any of the speed bumps
I have been over. Another issue mentioned is that the capacity is 187
pounds but I am almost positive that Yamaha is not telling us
something about that. It is a big scooter that seems built for big
people and that number just seems way too low. If you figure in 4
pounds of coolant, half a pound of oil and 10 pounds of gass then the
real limit would be closer to 173 pounds[0] and we aren't even talking
about the 10 pounds of gear like boots, cloths an helm yet. The
number just seems like a lie or some really bad design comprimise. I
have seen 250 pound people on these things without even a hint of
change in the shocks or ground clearance. I would love to know where
that number came from.

[0] 5 pounds less than I am as of this month. 17 pounds less than I
was 7 months ago.

Jim Crowther

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Feb 6, 2008, 9:43:03 PM2/6/08
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In alt.scooter, on Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:40:07, Faux_Pseudo wrote:

>The breaks work very well

I hope you mend them.

I'm bloody fed up with folk who can't spell "brake". A spreading habit
sadly, please don't be part of the problem.

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Jim Crowther

Dirk

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Feb 7, 2008, 12:58:18 PM2/7/08
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Eh, cut the brother a brake.

Mike G

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Feb 7, 2008, 4:29:44 PM2/7/08
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In article <Xjtqj.38985$Ft5....@newsfe15.lga>,
Faux_Pseudo <Faux....@gmail.com> wrote:

> The big negatives right now are the already mentioned lack of a
> kickstand lock

I've seen the C3 and looked it over stem to stern. It has a diaphragm
lock over the ignition switch, and I can't recall if it has a fork lock
- but I have no idea what a kickstand lock is.

Want to point me to an example online?

> and that the trunk won't hold a full sized helmet. The
> trunk is very long but it isn't very deep.

Disappointing to me too. I'd like a scooter that will internally hold a
helmet or lunch box cooler, or an OEM rack designed to secure a small to
medium IGLOO cooler.

Mike G.
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Faux_Pseudo

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Feb 7, 2008, 10:08:36 PM2/7/08
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_.-In alt.scooter, Mike G wrote the following -._

> In article <Xjtqj.38985$Ft5....@newsfe15.lga>,
> Faux_Pseudo <Faux....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The big negatives right now are the already mentioned lack of a
>> kickstand lock
>
> I've seen the C3 and looked it over stem to stern. It has a diaphragm
> lock over the ignition switch, and I can't recall if it has a fork lock
> - but I have no idea what a kickstand lock is.
>
> Want to point me to an example online?

No need to point one out as the idea is simple. On the Honda Metro
when you pop the trunk there is a little lever and when you move it
counter clockwise it locks the kickstand so that when you push the
bike forward the kickstand won't release. This way someone can't walk
off with the scooter.

Mike G

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Feb 8, 2008, 12:33:31 PM2/8/08
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In article <UIPqj.27390$hO4....@newsfe19.lga>,
Faux_Pseudo <Faux....@gmail.com> wrote:

> _.-In alt.scooter, Mike G wrote the following -._
> > In article <Xjtqj.38985$Ft5....@newsfe15.lga>,
> > Faux_Pseudo <Faux....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The big negatives right now are the already mentioned lack of a
> >> kickstand lock
> >
> > I've seen the C3 and looked it over stem to stern. It has a diaphragm
> > lock over the ignition switch, and I can't recall if it has a fork lock
> > - but I have no idea what a kickstand lock is.
> >
> > Want to point me to an example online?
>
> No need to point one out as the idea is simple. On the Honda Metro
> when you pop the trunk there is a little lever and when you move it
> counter clockwise it locks the kickstand so that when you push the
> bike forward the kickstand won't release. This way someone can't walk
> off with the scooter.

What about when you try to ride away? Do you have to open the trunk to
release it?

No thanks.

Mike G.
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Faux_Pseudo

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Feb 9, 2008, 12:06:18 AM2/9/08
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_.-In alt.scooter, Mike G wrote the following -._
>> No need to point one out as the idea is simple. On the Honda Metro
>> when you pop the trunk there is a little lever and when you move it
>> counter clockwise it locks the kickstand so that when you push the
>> bike forward the kickstand won't release. This way someone can't walk
>> off with the scooter.
>
> What about when you try to ride away? Do you have to open the trunk to
> release it?
>
> No thanks.

Every security feature known to man comes at the expense of some
convenience. Unlike many this is one you have the option to use or
not use.

Bike guy Joe

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Feb 9, 2008, 7:14:12 AM2/9/08
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On Feb 8, 12:33 pm, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <UIPqj.27390$hO4.1...@newsfe19.lga>,

>
>
>
>
>
>  Faux_Pseudo <Faux.Pse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > _.-In alt.scooter, Mike G wrote the following -._
> > > In article <Xjtqj.38985$Ft5.2...@newsfe15.lga>,

> > >  Faux_Pseudo <Faux.Pse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> The big negatives right now are the already mentioned lack of a
> > >> kickstand lock
>
> > > I've seen the C3 and looked it over stem to stern. It has a diaphragm
> > > lock over the ignition switch, and I can't recall if it has a fork lock
> > > - but I have no idea what a kickstand lock is.
>
> > > Want to point me to an example online?
>
> > No need to point one out as the idea is simple.  On the Honda Metro
> > when you pop the trunk there is a little lever and when you move it
> > counter clockwise it locks the kickstand so that when you push the
> > bike forward the kickstand won't release.  This way someone can't walk
> > off with the scooter.
>
> What about when you try to ride away? Do you have to open the trunk to
> release it?
>
> No thanks.
>
> Mike G.
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>
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Yeah, geeze, that's a lot of work, might sprain something.

Bob

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Feb 9, 2008, 9:35:02 AM2/9/08
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It sounds easier to unlock than walking home.

Rkirt

Bob

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Feb 11, 2008, 11:09:35 PM2/11/08
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:33:31 -0600, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid>
wrote:

|>What about when you try to ride away? Do you have to open the trunk to
|>release it?
|>
|>No thanks.
|>

I think the ignition immobilizer on the side stand is a bit much at
that too, especially on a scooter, were you can't rev it up to warm it MORE
before setting off on a ride....

The side stand switch system belongs on cycle with a neutral option.

Yamy Majesty 400cc

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Jim Crowther

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Feb 12, 2008, 5:36:01 AM2/12/08
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In alt.scooter, on Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:09:35, Bob wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:33:31 -0600, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>|>What about when you try to ride away? Do you have to open the trunk to
>|>release it?
>|>
>|>No thanks.
>|>
>
> I think the ignition immobilizer on the side stand is a bit much at
>that too, especially on a scooter, were you can't rev it up to warm it MORE
>before setting off on a ride....

Don't warm up before riding off with a modern scooter, they are designed
to be ridden from switch-on. Just don't use full revs for the first 30
secs or so.

> The side stand switch system belongs on cycle with a neutral option.

The switch belongs on any CVT machine, a safety measure, and sensible
IHMO. It isn't mandatory, only on those where the side-stand 'clicks'
into place. And if the side-stand doesn't 'click' into place it's a
PITA.

--
Jim Crowther

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