Me again - Extreme Scooters legit???? 150cc Roketa "Sicily" only 835 bucks + 200 for drop ship to home fully assembled front wheel
gaffo
http://www.extremescooters.biz/productdescription.asp?URLModel=Roketa_Si
cily_MC-17_150cc_Moped
whats the catch?
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pbureau69
them...
gluck...it stick to something a) more reliable b) known.
gaffo
yes - but good price.................TOO GOOD???????
Extreme Scooters - legit?
basically at that price the fucking thing could be made in Botswana for
all I care.
I've heard of the Name "Roketa" - that is the importer. the maker is
usually Chuanl (don't know about the "Sicily" specifically). Chuanl is
on par with Tank, Baron, Diamo. not great but not utter shit like
Panterra (pepboys) or Geely either.
I have abolutely no intention of shelling out 3k nor in shelling out 1k
for a used bike.
I do have a car - which shall remain my primary means of transportation.
Extreme Scooters? legit?
thanks for the reply BTW.
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Christopher von Volborth
"gaffo" <ga...@usenet.net> wrote in message
news:0UMdg.86186$H71....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> pbureau69 wrote:
>
>> cheap chinese scooter, good price, hard to get service/parts for
>> them...
>>
>> gluck...it stick to something a) more reliable b) known.
>
> yes - but good price.................TOO GOOD???????
I think the answer must be TOO GOOD!!!!
BTW, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Chris
gaffo
well.....................I found a post from scootersBBS on this matter
after posting on this matter:
>you may look into these guys
>
>http://www.extremescooters.biz/mopeds.asp
>
>don't know if they are legit, but they claim to assemble the
>front wheel and drop ship to your home - thus not voiding
>the waranty. seem to only carry Roketa though.
>
>
>prices are unbelievable - thus my scepticism.
response:
They're legit. I just got two Roketa MC-04's that were delivered
Wednesday. He even knocked a hundred bucks off the shipping on the two.
They came fully assembled except mirrors and battery, as advertised.
Before I bought, I checked the company out, and talked to Chad on the
phone a couple of times. Responses to emails were quick and very
thorough.
If the Roketa's are junk bikes, I can live with junk - happily!
Everything worked right out of the box, performance and handling are
sweet, they look great. Nice fit and finish.
You could definitely do worse than a Roketa from extremescooters.biz
There is another one, extreme-scooters.com, that I hacve read
less-than-glowing reviews of... no personal experience though.
so they are legit and a great buy sounds like ;-).
--
Ben
- Ben
Bike guy Joe
to get a license plate on it?
A lot of folks think the "fit and finish" on these things is good, but
have never had anything to compare them to. I've compared several
Chinese against Japanese scoots side by side, and unless there has been
a substantial change in the last couple of months, there is no
comparison. (chrome that flakes off in a few months? Plastic panels
that never fit right? Carbs that need adjusting after a few hundred
miles? Front suspension assemblies that are loose and have unacceptable
freeplay within a hundred miles? Batteries that last a month? ect.
ect.)
Read up all the scooter forums on these things- terrible reviews via a
million questions about how to fix a virtually new scooter.
Don't say you weren't forwarned.
gaffo
> Let us know how you feel about it in six months....
I will!! - IF I end up buying it.
> also, did you
> manage to get a license plate on it?
not a problem here in a backwoods state.
> A lot of folks think the "fit and finish" on these things is good,
> but have never had anything to compare them to. I've compared several
> Chinese against Japanese scoots side by side, and unless there has
> been a substantial change in the last couple of months, there is no
> comparison. (chrome that flakes off in a few months? Plastic panels
> that never fit right? Carbs that need adjusting after a few hundred
> miles? Front suspension assemblies that are loose and have
> unacceptable freeplay within a hundred miles? Batteries that last a
> month? ect. ect.)
no doubt!
I'm sure there is no valid equivalent comparision to be made. if it
"runs" and can be used as secondary transportation, that is fine by me.
If I wanted the best I buy a Yamaha or Honda, but I don't want the best
for the price at will cost me. so good enough will do.
I have a Honda Car with 250,000 miles 14 yrs, had a british Truimph TR7
with 90,000 6 yr before it........................it would be laughable
to make a comparision of equivalency between those two cars (WRT
reliablity).
TR was a PIG!..............though it could run circles around the Honda
literally and looked a hell of a lot cooler - IF you could get it
started and hold it together long enough to do a donut.
> Read up all the scooter forums on these things- terrible reviews via
> a million questions about how to fix a virtually new scooter.
>
> Don't say you weren't forwarned.
I HAVE read up on the reviews!! -and you know what??????????????? THERE
AREN'T ANY!!!
type in "Roketa" in google and tell me how many reveiws you get!
or try "Diamo", or even "Baron".................how many reviews?
NONE.
We all know PepBoy's Panterra is shit, and the same for
Geely.............from scraps of info on the net (- any actual reveiws
of these brands??????????????? NOPE).
no forum posts on Roketa nor Diamo - simply no info good or bad about
them.
If you know of a (any review!) reveiw of a Roketa scooter, please
provide the link here:
--
Christopher von Volborth
> or try "Diamo",
Write POC Scooters (Pride of Cleveland Scooters) about Diamo. Apparently
it's quite a good machine.
Chris
www.cdbaby.com/vonvolborth
CaptnDan
Since I made the post on scooterBBS that was copied here, I'll answer
your questions.
Did I get a license plate on it? Yes. No problem. I just put the bolts
through the plate and fender and attached nuts to the back side to
secure it. Or do you mean was I able to get a plate issued? All you
need is a bill of sale, and an MCO. Oh, and a checkbook helps too.
I guess you're right, I have no idea how the fit and finish was on the
scooters I looked at in the local stores. I guess I should have asked
around to see if my eyes were deceiving me, as they obviously were.
Chrome that flakes of... hmmm... Guess I should have bought one that
has chrome so I could answer this one... But while I was shopping
around I did see a brand new Harley on the showroom floor with
noticeable pitting of the chrome - does that count? Or is it OK, since
it isn't Chinese?
The plastic panels fit just fine. As good as anything else I looked at.
My carb needs adjusting? It must... in fact it's a miracle that the
thing even runs at all. After all, I have just over 650 miles on it and
I have yet to touch the carb. And the free play in the front suspension
must be really bad, since they only last a hundred miles...
I have yet to see a review or a request for info on how to fix a Roketa
scooter. Where do you read all of this? Please provide links, I would
love to see it. Perhaps I could learn some valuable information for the
myriad of inevitable breakdowns that I have somehow overlooked in the
first hundred miles on these bikes.
I have two Roketa scooters that are ridden daily. My question to you,
sir, is : Have you ever had any PERSONAL experience with this
particular brand of scooter? Or are you simply reciting the rhetoric
that exists all over the 'net, perpetuated by people who have never
even so much as seen the product that they so willingly bash?
CaptnDan
Too good in what way? And you base this assumption on what?
The scooters are delivered quickly, and exactly as described.
Unlike some others, I have actually bought from extremescooters.biz so
I know what I am talking about. The proof is sitting out in my
driveway.
Maybe they're a figment of my imagination.... After all, it is TOO GOOD
TO BE TRUE.
Bike guy Joe
CaptnDan wrote:
>
>
> Did I get a license plate on it? Yes. No problem. I just put the bolts
> through the plate and fender and attached nuts to the back side to
> secure it. Or do you mean was I able to get a plate issued? All you
> need is a bill of sale, and an MCO. Oh, and a checkbook helps too.
You should have posted on the "bad comedians" NG....
>
> I guess you're right, I have no idea how the fit and finish was on the
> scooters I looked at in the local stores. I guess I should have asked
> around to see if my eyes were deceiving me, as they obviously were.
Smartass? Or did you actually look at any other scooters before you
bought one on the net for a "really cheap price"?
>
> Chrome that flakes of... hmmm... Guess I should have bought one that
> has chrome so I could answer this one... But while I was shopping
> around I did see a brand new Harley on the showroom floor with
> noticeable pitting of the chrome - does that count? Or is it OK, since
> it isn't Chinese?
Harleys are not scooters in case you werwen't aware and they have
Chinese parts on 'em too....;^)
>
>
> My carb needs adjusting? It must... in fact it's a miracle that the
> thing even runs at all. After all, I have just over 650 miles on it and
> I have yet to touch the carb. And the free play in the front suspension
> must be really bad, since they only last a hundred miles...
Wow! A whole 650 miles! You are a contender for the Iron Butt Trophy!
>
> I have yet to see a review or a request for info on how to fix a Roketa
> scooter. Where do you read all of this?
Didn't read it and I'm not parroting anything....I do work on scoots
of all nationalities and all the Chinese scoots have been pretty crappy
so far. (In comparison to "other" nationalities)
One more thing junior, don't call me sir.
CaptnDan
> CaptnDan wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Did I get a license plate on it? Yes. No problem. I just put the bolts
> > through the plate and fender and attached nuts to the back side to
> > secure it. Or do you mean was I able to get a plate issued? All you
> > need is a bill of sale, and an MCO. Oh, and a checkbook helps too.
>
> You should have posted on the "bad comedians" NG....
How would you expect someone to answer such a ridiculous question? With
two pieces of paper and some money you get a license plate. Nothing to
it.
> >
> > I guess you're right, I have no idea how the fit and finish was on the
> > scooters I looked at in the local stores. I guess I should have asked
> > around to see if my eyes were deceiving me, as they obviously were.
>
> Smartass? Or did you actually look at any other scooters before you
> bought one on the net for a "really cheap price"?
Yes, I did. And when I saw all the flaws in the "big name" brands I
decided that they were over-hyped and not worth the price.
> > Chrome that flakes of... hmmm... Guess I should have bought one that
> > has chrome so I could answer this one... But while I was shopping
> > around I did see a brand new Harley on the showroom floor with
> > noticeable pitting of the chrome - does that count? Or is it OK, since
> > it isn't Chinese?
>
> Harleys are not scooters in case you werwen't aware and they have
> Chinese parts on 'em too....;^)
So they do fall into your "It's from China, therefore crap" category
too? Thanks for the clarification.
> > My carb needs adjusting? It must... in fact it's a miracle that the
> > thing even runs at all. After all, I have just over 650 miles on it and
> > I have yet to touch the carb. And the free play in the front suspension
> > must be really bad, since they only last a hundred miles...
>
> Wow! A whole 650 miles! You are a contender for the Iron Butt Trophy!
But you said it would not last 100 miles.... I never said that 650
miles was a great amount of riding, only that it is far more than you
stated the bike would go before needing major overhaul.
> >
> > I have yet to see a review or a request for info on how to fix a Roketa
> > scooter. Where do you read all of this?
>
> Didn't read it and I'm not parroting anything....I do work on scoots
> of all nationalities and all the Chinese scoots have been pretty crappy
> so far. (In comparison to "other" nationalities)
You specifically said, "Read up all the scooter forums on these things-
terrible reviews via a million questions about how to fix a virtually
new scooter." All I want to know is where to find this myriad of
information.
> One more thing junior, don't call me sir.
Junior? LOL! Thats a good one.
Bike guy Joe
CraptnDan wrote:
> How would you expect someone to answer such a ridiculous question? With
> two pieces of paper and some money you get a license plate. Nothing to
> it.
>
paper and your check book, unless you are bribing someone....
> > Smartass? Or did you actually look at any other scooters before you
> > bought one on the net for a "really cheap price"?
>
> Yes, I did. And when I saw all the flaws in the "big name" brands I
> decided that they were over-hyped and not worth the price.
What big name brands- TNG or Rocketa?
> So they do fall into your "It's from China, therefore crap" category
> too? Thanks for the clarification.
No but your cheap Chinese scoot does....
> But you said it would not last 100 miles.... I never said that 650
> miles was a great amount of riding, only that it is far more than you
> stated the bike would go before needing major overhaul.
No, that's your mind playing tricks on you again, but mark my words,
unless you got a really good one, it will be a pile of crap when a
Honda or Yamaha is just getting broken in.
>
> > >
> > > I have yet to see a review or a request for info on how to fix a Roketa
> > > scooter. Where do you read all of this?
Look at all the friggin' posts here and around, nothing but "I bought
a Chinese scooter and I have 300 miles on it and it won't run/has no
spark (see aforementioned)parts fell off/ the carb won't work
right/doesn't have lights/ect. You are one in a thousand who will even
say they are happy with their purchase.
> >
> > Didn't read it and I'm not parroting anything....I do work on scoots
> > of all nationalities and all the Chinese scoots have been pretty crappy
> > so far. (In comparison to "other" nationalities)
>
> You specifically said, "Read up all the scooter forums on these things-
> terrible reviews via a million questions about how to fix a virtually
> new scooter." All I want to know is where to find this myriad of
> information.
See above....
O.K., you may call me "Sir"
gaffo
Hi Dan, Seen your posts at the forum a couple of weeks ago. i ran
accross the guys you bought your scooters from after dwfscooters.com
"dissapeared" last month. they had a Roketa Sicily for 1300 total.
our guys - via - googling "Roketa" offered the same bike for 1000 bucks.
sadly they seem to be soldout............I'll wait awhile.
let us know how they hold up and thanks for defending your scoots from
those who assume too much (we all know what that makes).
looks like there are more than Geelys or Panteras made in china now.
peace.
--
Bike guy Joe
laffo wrote:
thanks for defending your scoots from
> those who assume too much (we all know what that makes).
>
"Assume too much?
I base all statements on empirical observation and testing....that's a
big word for you but you can look it up.
Tommy Tutone
I agree that the fit and finish of this thing seems a little cheap,
and the on-off light switch doesn't work although I don't mind much
since it is stuck in the "on" position.
Otherwise I am mostly satisfied. I was surprised by the power train,
and if the speedo is correct, it can easily achieve its 125 kph max
speed. What's pissing me off though, is the fact that after 2weeks I
still haven't seen the MCO so the 20 miles I have put on this have been
completely illegal.
Can anyone verify that Roketa 150cc scoots are California legal? My
state (Mass) won't let you register any vehicle that's not legal in all
50 states including CA.
Bike guy Joe
Tommy Tutone wrote:
> >
> I also bought a Roketa scooter from extremescooters.biz (Bermuda MC-11).
> I agree that the fit and finish of this thing seems a little cheap,
> and the on-off light switch doesn't work although I don't mind much
> since it is stuck in the "on" position.
>
> Otherwise I am mostly satisfied. I was surprised by the power train,
> and if the speedo is correct, it can easily achieve its 125 kph max
> speed. What's pissing me off though, is the fact that after 2weeks I
> still haven't seen the MCO so the 20 miles I have put on this have been
> completely illegal.
>
> Can anyone verify that Roketa 150cc scoots are California legal? My
> state (Mass) won't let you register any vehicle that's not legal in all
> 50 states including CA.
Well there ya' go, another satisfied customer, sorry for your problems
TT.
Like I was sayin'......
gaffo
have you tested a Roketa scooter joe?
Am I to assume that you have?
or are you only making another assumption about a Make or Model that
you have not tested?
I (and others here most likely) would like you to clearify your
statement on this matter.
I can use big words too buddyboy
http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2004/01/14.html
seems fairly apt.
I await your clearification that you have indeed tested and ridden a
Roketa branded scooter.
not a Geely not a Tank not a Pantera not a Diamo not a Barron not a
Bandit...............a ROKETA.
while your at it - since you tested so many Chinese bikes and all -
list the brands and models in a nice readable table with a summary of
what you have found out about their quality - that way your post could
be immeasurably (big word again!) relivant and helpfull for all of the
rest of us who are looking into buying a mulit-thousand dollar item.
thanks joe.
--
gaffo
seems i ran accross an application for EPA certification online by the
importers of chual (Roketa).........Goldenvale importers - dated to
October 05. I think it was granted, but it was a few months ago that I
found the site and read this - so could be wrong.
try goole "goldenvale" "roteta"
roketa has their own homepage.......www.roketa.com (maybe).......try
there first.
--
SoCalMike
> Can anyone verify that Roketa 150cc scoots are California legal? My
> state (Mass) won't let you register any vehicle that's not legal in all
> 50 states including CA.
they werent listed in "scoot quarterly"s annual buyer guide, so i
seriously doubt they are. tank, however, is listed.
so you cant buy a 2 stroke stella there, either? sucks.
SoCalMike
there likely is no MCO. good luck registering it. the only place i KNEW
of that did stuff like that was in nevada, and guess what? they got shut
down. nice driveway toy.... or move to arkansas?
SoCalMike
> I await your clearification that you have indeed tested and ridden a
> Roketa branded scooter.
>
> not a Geely not a Tank not a Pantera not a Diamo not a Barron not a
> Bandit...............a ROKETA.
really doenst matter if it cant be registered. anything that cant be
registered is less than useless to me.
gaffo
these links may help you:
http://www.scooterbbs.com/board/DCForumID13/178.html
http://www.scooterbbs.com/board/DCForumID13/26.html#14
at "Roketa's" post
- try reading all of "Roketa's" posting at that scooter forum (they
have a search function) - i think he is the importer of all of them and
may have posted a relivant thing to help you find out about CA legal or
not.
THIS ANSWSERS YOUR QUESTION:
http://scooterbbs.com/board/DCForumID13/149.html#1
here in OK it is no problem - but unless you can get MA to look the
otherway (try registering it in bumfuck-backwaterville maybe) on there
silly "all 50-states" rule you are out of luck ;-/.
- could simply try a million tag agencies until one "slips up" and lets
it through ;-).
--
gaffo
not all of us live in California mike.
such information would be useful for the rest of us living in the other
49 states (minus parts of NJ and MA of course).
--
SoCalMike
or any other state with a DMV that actually cares. if your DMV doesnt
care what goes on the roads, good for them.
SoCalMike
> here in OK it is no problem - but unless you can get MA to look the
> otherway (try registering it in bumfuck-backwaterville maybe) on there
> silly "all 50-states" rule you are out of luck ;-/.
some people might think that minimum required standards are a good
thing. then theres OK ;)
CaptnDan
> I also bought a Roketa scooter from extremescooters.biz (Bermuda MC-11).
> I agree that the fit and finish of this thing seems a little cheap,
> and the on-off light switch doesn't work although I don't mind much
> since it is stuck in the "on" position.
The on-off light switch? Are you referring to the headlights? The
headlights and tail light are on whenever the engine is running. The
switch on the left is to select between high beam and low beam. You
can't turn them off.
> Can anyone verify that Roketa 150cc scoots are California legal? My
> state (Mass) won't let you register any vehicle that's not legal in all
> 50 states including CA.
I found the following info at http://www.mass.gov/rmv/regs/lev.htm
"Simply put, the LEV program requires that new vehicles - any vehicle
with 7,500 miles or less on the odometer - must be equipped with
factory-installed California-certified advanced emission control
systems. This applies to all 1995 and newer passenger cars and
light-duty trucks up to 6,000 pounds sold and registered in
Massachusetts."
It makes no specific mention of motorcycles. Actually, it seems to
exclude them as it specifies light duty trucks and passenger cars. Are
you absolutely sure the rule applies to your scooter? I wouldn't take
the word of just one person at the DMV... They may be making an
incorrect assumption, or may simply be misinformed.
Have you emailed or called Chad at extremescooter.biz? He will know if
the scooter is OK for California, and he might know if it would fall
under the rule in Mass. He's also the person to talk to about your
missing MCO... You did email the VIN to them to conform that you
received the scooter, right?
I could find no mention of California on the extremescooter.biz website
to confirm not deny that they are CARB approved.
Did you read the FAQ? It says:
4. Are the scooters street legal?
We highly recommend that you contact your state's Department of Motor
Vehicles and legislature to see what scooter laws you must follow
before purchasing your scooter online.
NOTE: Since scooter laws vary from state to state, you are solely
responsible for determining the legality of your scooter in your state.
We will not issue any refunds based on claims of unsatisfactory legal
status.
Hope it all works out. If Mass doesn't cooperate... um, how close are
you to the border? ;-)
Tommy Tutone
> Tommy Tutone wrote:
>> I also bought a Roketa scooter from extremescooters.biz (Bermuda MC-11).
>> I agree that the fit and finish of this thing seems a little cheap,
>> and the on-off light switch doesn't work although I don't mind much
>> since it is stuck in the "on" position.
>
> The on-off light switch? Are you referring to the headlights? The
> headlights and tail light are on whenever the engine is running. The
> switch on the left is to select between high beam and low beam. You
> can't turn them off.
>
always on, but there IS a 3-way switch on the right handle bar that
looks like an off-on-control panel switch that does absolutely nothing.
>> Can anyone verify that Roketa 150cc scoots are California legal? My
>> state (Mass) won't let you register any vehicle that's not legal in all
>> 50 states including CA.
>
> I found the following info at http://www.mass.gov/rmv/regs/lev.htm
>
> "Simply put, the LEV program requires that new vehicles - any vehicle
> with 7,500 miles or less on the odometer - must be equipped with
> factory-installed California-certified advanced emission control
> systems. This applies to all 1995 and newer passenger cars and
> light-duty trucks up to 6,000 pounds sold and registered in
> Massachusetts."
>
> It makes no specific mention of motorcycles. Actually, it seems to
> exclude them as it specifies light duty trucks and passenger cars. Are
> you absolutely sure the rule applies to your scooter? I wouldn't take
> the word of just one person at the DMV... They may be making an
> incorrect assumption, or may simply be misinformed.
Quite possibly the case. When I took my motorcycle permit test, I asked
the woman behind the desk about registering my scooter. She first said
that you can't register a scooter, so I explained to here that was true
for scoots under 50cc. Anything over that the state views as a
motorcycle; hence the permit test. She looked confused and flipped
through some pages in a book and then told me that it had to conform to
CA's emission standards. So no, I don't particularly trust her. I
wouldn't doubt if you are 100% correct.
>
> Have you emailed or called Chad at extremescooter.biz? He will know if
> the scooter is OK for California, and he might know if it would fall
> under the rule in Mass. He's also the person to talk to about your
> missing MCO... You did email the VIN to them to conform that you
> received the scooter, right?
I e-mailed ES.biz after posting here. Chad wrote back that because of
the high price of gas, they have been selling like hot-cakes. He also
said it was mailed Monday, so I would expect it maybe Friday since I
live in New England. He did say that they don't sell them in California
since they are not CARB approved, but he hasn't seen a problem in any of
the other 49 states, so we'll see.....
>
> I could find no mention of California on the extremescooter.biz website
> to confirm not deny that they are CARB approved.
>
> Did you read the FAQ? It says:
>
> 4. Are the scooters street legal?
> We highly recommend that you contact your state's Department of Motor
> Vehicles and legislature to see what scooter laws you must follow
> before purchasing your scooter online.
>
> NOTE: Since scooter laws vary from state to state, you are solely
> responsible for determining the legality of your scooter in your state.
> We will not issue any refunds based on claims of unsatisfactory legal
> status.
>
>
> Hope it all works out. If Mass doesn't cooperate... um, how close are
> you to the border? ;-)
>
Pretty close, but The People's Democratic Republic of Massachusetts
won't let you register anything in another state, Comrade.
I'll let you know how it turns out.
Bike guy Joe
laffo wrote:
> Bike guy Joe wrote:
>
> >
> > laffo wrote:
> > thanks for defending your scoots from
> > > those who assume too much (we all know what that makes).
> > >
> >
> > "Assume too much?
> >
> > I base all statements on empirical observation and testing....that's
> > a big word for you but you can look it up.
>
>
>
> have you tested a Roketa scooter joe?
>
> Am I to assume that you have?
>
> or are you only making another assumption about a Make or Model that
> you have not tested?
No.
>
> I (and others here most likely) would like you to clearify your
> statement on this matter.
>
>
> I can use big words too buddyboy.
Like what, "clearify", or "clearification" or relivant?-
http://www.dictionary.net/clearify
>
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2004/01/14.html
>
>
> seems fairly apt.
Yes, yes it does.
> while your at it - since you tested so many Chinese bikes and all -
> list the brands and models in a nice readable table with a summary of
> what you have found out about their quality -
IMNSHO, and it's just an educated and truly tested opinion-
Geely- Real crap.....sorry to those that own one of these.
Roketa, (yes I have)- crap, but not as bad. Uses the old Honda knock
off counterfiet engine, and I might add the ones I checked out had
expansion chambers left over from the previous two stroke models on
them to boot! That's not good, ya' know what I'm sayin'? Still no
customer support, though the dealer is still there after a few months.
The guy who ran it even bitched about lack of factory support and
unavailable manuals (shop). Sorry, I knew that would piss you off.
Vento, yeah, I know not made in China, right? Still crappy and no
customer support or manuals available after a year.
KYMCO probably the best of the bunch, but not up to the Japanese
scoots.
Hyosung- no, but I will. (I know, not Chinese)
Royal Enfield, or Enfield India for the anal retentive. Not really so
bad, but I'd buy a Japanese motorcycle for the same money first, maybe
I'd buy one as a novelty item though. (I know, not a scooter either).
> thanks joe.
You asked, and you're welcome.
Joe
Bike guy Joe
Sorry, forgot to add the "Yamati/Motostrada- about the same as Roketa,
including the "Tuned silencer thing".
gaffo
maybe - you can get all environmental on me if you want.
but I prefer serving environmetalism via frugality of finances over yet
another government law/regulation.
I know you being funny, but your post sort of disses my State (of only
that is my perception).
The USA is made up of 50 of them - not only the one called California.
The troubles that plague the US of A are many - an incompetant
president, a fascist vice-president, an imperialist cabinet, an illegal
and unwinnable war, a falling dollar a falling standard of living a
rising national debt a rising cost of living and a rising belligerant
Nationalistic Nation called China.
I think pollution standards for scooters is way way down the list.
peace.
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CaptnDan
> Thanks for the reply, CaptnDan. It makes sense that the lights are
> always on, but there IS a 3-way switch on the right handle bar that
> looks like an off-on-control panel switch that does absolutely nothing.
I'd be interested in knowing what that switch is, when you find out.
On mine, (Fiji MC-04) the engine kill switch is just inboard of the
right hand grip, with the electric start right below it. On the left is
the turn signals (left, right, center/off). Inboard of that is the
hazard lights, and above all of this is the high/low beam headlight
control.
Maybe the three position switch is the turn sigs? I think they are on a
fuse. If they don't work, check for that.
Best,
Dan
Bike guy Joe
Bike guy Joe wrote:
> Sorry, forgot to add the "Yamati/Motostrada- about the same as Roketa,
> including the "Tuned silencer thing".
So where'd you go gaffo, I was awaiting your terse response....
gaffo
I'm here - I did not respond because the newreader I use - XanaNews on
occasion cannot read some posts - in this case it reads your two replys
to yourself - yet not the original 74-line post.
I disslike Outlook (hangs my PC too often) and Thunderbird is too
bloaty.
I use Xana even though 1/25 posts I cannot read for some reason. It is
lean, fast and has a commonsense interface.
If you care to repost - I could respond - or we could just let it go.
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Bike guy Joe
I've enjoyed the jousting, but we can let it go here...
gaffo
deal, I agree.
as an aside, could you tell me if you posted the unreadable 74-line
post from another program than your others?
or did it have HTML in it??
I'd like you know why XanaNews can't read some posts - only the
header/size of them.
finding a good news-reader is not easy. and a good binary reader is
even more nightmarish. I like to stick with Xana.
any help in this matter I would be most greatful ;-).
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Bike guy Joe
gaffo wrote:
>
> as an aside, could you tell me if you posted the unreadable 74-line
> post from another program than your others?
>
Nope sho' wasn't me, I can't keep my attention on track for 74 lines! --