SETI: Open letter to Dr. David P. Anderson, Project Director - suggest (0371)
Kall, Mogens
Thank You for the E-mail.
May I come with a suggest:
If I was an alien, I would know, that other aliens allways are listning into
the Center of our Galaxy, because the probability-of-Contact is highest on
this position. Therefore I will - first of all - send a message out to their
(our) positions. I will expect, that they (You) are listning on ALL-time
(local: 24 hours/day). My message will therefore be - first off all - a
identification-of-Intelligence, so that they (You) will know, that I am
alive!
A dead stone can NOT find out the mathematics constant Phi (22/7) be
itself. The constant is the beginning of all mathematics. Therefore I will
use this simple constant to tell You "I AM (ALIVE)".
I can send my message out in two ways:
(I will allways use the Frequency around 1,420 GHz, because this frequency
is coming from Hydrogen, the first atom, the beginning)
1.
Time = 0 ............ (1. impulse)
Time = 1 ............ (2. impulse)
Time = Phi (22/7) (3. impulse)
2.
Time = 0 (1. impulse at 1,420 GHz)
Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz * Phi)
or/and
Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz / Phi)
I will use the first syntax, because I know, You only have one "ear", one
frequency around 1,420 GHz.
-
I have other "customers" (I still do not know Your existence; I just hope).
Therefore I must also CALL them up (around Your area). This will take a
time, but I will CALL You up again, after a while (My "phone"-call can come
after a hour, a day, a week, a mounth or a year) - Please "HANG ON".
I will use the same syntax to CALL UP an other Galaxy (like Andromeda, M31).
My message could be ...
Input memory from file 0227:
(2002-12-09, Monday, CET 12:55)
The Song of the Bride (5104 bits)
The number on left (begin 1000) is not a part of the code:
Read-syntax:
1 bit=1
2 bit=0
3 bit=0
und-so-weither.
Bit-times: Delta DATA
Time=00,0 - -
Time=01,0 1 bit=1
Time=01,9 0,9 bit=0
Time=02,9 0,9 bit=0
...
Time=08,9 0,9 bit=0
Time=10,0 1,0 bit=1
1000 10000000010000001100000
1001 00010000010100000011000
1002 00111000000000000000000
1003 00010000000011000001110
1004 00000001000011110000000
1005 01000000000001000001001
1006 10001011100010000100101
1007 11100100000101000000000
1008 00010010000010100001101
1009 00000011000010110000011
1010 10000000000000000000000
1011 00100100000110000000000
1012 00110000000000000000100
1013 00000100100100000000001
1014 00000010000110100100100
1015 00000001100000010000110
1016 10010010010100100000000
1017 01100000010000110100100
1018 10100001100101001000000
1019 00011000000010000000101
1020 00100000000011000000010
1021 00000000100100000000011
1022 00000001000000100000000
1023 00000001100000001000000
1024 10000110100000001001001
1025 00000000000100000100010
1026 10100001101000011000000
1027 00010100000001000000100
1028 00000000000001100000100
1029 01010100100100000000011
1030 10000001100000010100100
1031 00000000001000011100000
1032 11010000000000001001000
1033 01001101010010010000000
1034 00010100001001000001010
1035 01000000000110100001000
1036 10100100101001100000001
1037 01010011000000110000000
1038 00000000110000110100001
1039 00010100100101011001010
1040 00101010101010100110101
1041 01000101001101010000000
1042 00101100001010000001100
1043 00001010000000000000111
1044 00001011000001100000000
1045 10000000000001111000010
1046 11000011100000000000000
1047 00010001111000011100000
1048 00000000100010000000100
1049 01110000000000000010010
1050 00101100001011001010000
1051 00101000001110000010010
1052 00010000000011001000111
1053 10000010000001100100100
1054 10100110110101011101011
1055 11101010000110100000000
1056 00101000011100000100000
1057 01011100101111001111110
1058 01000001010000000010101
1059 00011110000100011101111
1060 00101100010100100101000
1061 00000011010001111000000
1062 11000010101010111100100
1063 10000001110010100010101
1064 00000000111010001111000
1065 00010000001010000111010
1066 01000110010000000000011
1067 00000001000001000000101
1068 00001010110101101101000
1069 00000100110001011000000
1070 01000010110001011100011
1071 11100010000100100000000
1072 01011000011100000001000
1073 01001000101010001110100
1074 01001100010000000011011
1075 00011110000011000000001
1076 00000001000010010101010
1077 10101100111010101110111
1078 01110100111101000000000
1079 01110000111000011100000
1080 00010000010110011101100
1081 10011100100000000101110
1082 00101000000110000011100
1083 00011100000111000001001
1084 00001001101001001010101
1085 11101011111011111110100
1086 00001100000000011110000
1087 00010001000111000010000
1088 10011001000000001111100
1089 01111000000110000000100
1090 10000100101101010100110
1091 10100000000000001001111
1092 00000010101001100000100
1093 10000001100000000000010
1094 00010000000100001010101
1095 01010100010101011101010
1096 00010010100001010000000
1097 00100010011110000101000
1098 00111000010001000100000
1099 00011000100000010001010
1100 00001010000101100001000
1101 00000001001001000100011
1102 10000001010000101010010
1103 11010010000000010100100
1104 10001000100100000110101
1105 00101000010010000011010
1106 10001110101000100101001
1107 00110001101010011011100
1108 11010010110100000000011
1109 00100111100000010101001
1110 10000001011010011000001
1111 00100000000000011100100
1112 01100100001010101010101
1113 00101101001101010110110
1114 10001010101110110100011
1115 10100000000000101001001
1116 01100100000001000110010
1117 00110110001100010011000
1118 00000010010100011000001
1119 11000000110000001100000
1120 11100000001010101000011
1121 01000101010000110000000
1122 00010101000001010011000
1123 11010010100101010100000
1124 00001101010001010100110
1125 01010010101000010011000
1126 00000000110100100110101
1127 00010100101101001001010
1128 11001010001010100000000
1129 01011010000110100110010
1130 10001010101001101000101
1131 01000000000011101001011
1132 01001000101010000110100
1133 01010100001100101101001
1134 00101001001010010100001
1135 10010101101001000101010
1136 00110010000000001111010
1137 00111010010011010010101
1138 00100010100000000000001
1139 10011110100111101001111
1140 01001000000100000000100
1141 01100101101001000101010
1142 00011010001010100001100
1143 10110101001001001001010
1144 01000110010010100100011
1145 01100101000010000001010
1146 10101100100000000001001
1147 10010001100100110100101
1148 01001000101000000000110
1149 01100111101001111010001
1150 00110001000001000000000
1151 01011001111010001001100
1152 11110100101000010000000
1153 01010110010110100110010
1154 10110110101101101001100
1155 00010101010001110100000
1156 00000110110010101100100
1157 11010100010101101101010
1158 10101000101010001110100
1159 00000001110110001101100
1160 10001010100100100101101
1161 00100101001001010010100
1162 00000000000001110011101
1163 10000111010010101001000
1164 10100000000010011100111
1165 10100111101000001110011
1166 00000100000000010111000
1167 11011001000101001010000
1168 01011010110100100100101
1169 01000011001001010100001
1170 10000000001101110001011
1171 10000111010010101001000
1172 10100000000000111100111
1173 10100111101001101110000
1174 10000100000000000000001
1175 01111000100100001001000
1176 00000000101111001010000
1177 01110000010010000001000
1178 00111000000101000000000
1179 00000000000011111000100
1180 11000001110011110100100
1181 11001000000001111110011
1182 11010000011100111101001
1183 00100010000000000000010
1184 11110100111101001111010
1185 01000000100000000100000
1186 10111101001111010001001
1187 10001000001000000000111
1188 11101101110011011100000
1189 11100111111010000000011
1190 11111011011100110111001
1191 10111000000001100000000
1192 00000001000000001000000
1193 10001110011110100010011
1194 00010001010000000001000
1195 00100011100010011001111
1196 01001010010100000000110
1197 00001000111000100110001
1198 00110001100101000000000
1199 00000000010000101001100
1200 00011100111101001111010
1201 01111010011110100010011
1202 00000111001111010011110
1203 10001001100111101000001
1204 11000100110001001100000
1205 00000001000010001101000
1206 00001000011010001000100
1207 11001010000000000100001
1208 01111000010010000111100
1209 01100010000000000101000
1210 01010010000111100011000
1211 10000000000000000001000
1212 00000000000000011000000
1213 11000000010000011111001
1214 01110110011101000111000
1215 00101000001010000010100
1216 00110110000000000000000
1217 00100000000000000111000
1218 10101001100111011010100
1219 11011001110100101101100
1220 11100000010001101100011
1221 101000010110011111100
last bit=0
1 bit/day = 5104 days = 13,97 years
1 bit/week = 35728 days = 97,82 years
Keyword:
Searchstring "Phi" at ...
Center of our Galaxy
180° out from our Galaxy in our direction
Andromeda
M32
NGC 205
Pulse-delta (1-3) un-known (expected >1 second, many "customers").
Wish You all good hunting!
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Update 1
Input News from alt.astronomy (file 0415):
Re: Open letter to Dr. David P. Anderson, Project Director - suggest (0371)
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2003-03-24, Monday, CET 04:09
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"Pete Davis" wrote:
> Pardon? The probablity of contact is highest where? In the center of the
> galaxy?
>
> Why would you say that?
>
> The area around the nucleus of the galaxy is unlikely to harbor any sort
> of
> life. I mean, I suppose it's possible, but I just find it highly unlikely
> that anything can survive the conditions in that area. First of all, the
> stars in the center of the galaxy are packed much tighter, so you're
> talking
> about radiaton pouring in from every direction from all these stars.
> Second
> of all, you'd have a much higher chance of supernovae going off in a given
> volume of space, further reducing the chances of planets (if they're
> around), being habitable, as a nearby supernovae would wreak havoc on a
> planet.
>
> I could be wrong, but I would suspect the center of the galaxy is the last
> place one would expect to find life. It would have to be some form of
> "radiation-proof" life.
>
> Pete
Hey Pete,
I'm sorry, You misunderstood me (I'm from Denmark, my english is very bad).
As far as I remember the Center itself is a black hole. No life-2 can live
here.
What I'm talk'ing about, is the NETWORK-syntax:
Our star, the sun, is about 30.000 light-years away from the Center. If You
look up, You can see the Milky-Way. If You are look'ing into the Center, You
can register, that there are more stars in this direction than elsewhere.
Life-2 can be everywhere, but mostly You meet "people" at town (30.000 -
5.000 light-years).
Therefore my suggest is this (file 0407 ... file 0414) :
> ... I will expect, that they (You) are listning on ALL-time
> (local: 24 hours/day). ...
I have heard, that there was a signal around this position (in 1973 - ?) for
about 23 seconds. I think, it was a *Please - "HANG ON"*-signal.
SETI is only list'ing some seconds on each positions.
...
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Update 2
Input News from de.sci.astronomie (file 0436):
Re: SETI: Open letter to Dr. David P. Anderson, Project Director - suggest
(0371)
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2003-03-25, Tuesday, CET 22:35
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"Frank Feger" wrote:
> >1 bit/day = 5104 days = 13,97 years
> >1 bit/week = 35728 days = 97,82 years
>
> Too slow, there are much more noise signals between the bits.
Hey Frank,
I'm sorry, You misunderstood me (I'm from Denmark, my english is very bad).
Every bit has 3 impulses:
Input memory from file 0371:
1.
Time = 0 ............ (1. impulse)
Time = 1 ............ (2. impulse)
Time = Phi (22/7) (3. impulse)
By this we will get (an example):
y=year
d=day
h=hour
m=minute
s=second
START:
Time=0000y000d00h00m00s000 - 0001 inpulse
Time=0000y000d00h00m10s000 - 0002 inpulse
Time=0000y000d00h00m31s416 - 0003 inpulse
1.bit:
Time=0000y001d00h00m00s000 - 0004 inpulse
Time=0000y001d00h00m10s000 - 0005 inpulse
Time=0000y001d00h00m31s416 - 0006 inpulse - 1.bit=1
2.bit:
Time=0000y001d23h50m00s000 - 0007 inpulse
Time=0000y001d23h50m10s000 - 0008 inpulse
Time=0000y001d23h50m31s416 - 0009 inpulse - 2.bit=0
und-so-weither
> >Center of our Galaxy
> >180° out from our Galaxy in our direction
> >Andromeda
> >M32
> >NGC 205
>
> That brings me to an idea:
I like this !!!
> ... send signals to the _opposite_ directions
> of interesting radio objects. Aliens watching them in radio frequencies
> will get the signals _without_ searching for them! Trying to receive
> signals from there is also a good idea.
WONDERFUL IDÉA - write to SETI !!!
...
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Interrupt H-2304 over-and-out.
Yours respectfully
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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DADDY-Break (2003-03-25, CET 19:27):
- "Det skal du (copy 0371 to *.SETI)"
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Time for OUTPUT:
2003-03-25, Tuesday, CET 23:23
David H. Lipman
Please reamin on your prescribed regiment.
DHL
Kall, Mogens
> Now is NOT the time to stop taking your Prozac.
>
> Please reamin on your prescribed regiment.
Sorry - message not understand You (I'm from Denmark, my english is very
bad)!
Can You use more simple words to explain, what You mean ?
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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Kall, Mogens
> He's suggesting that you are crazy.
Yes - of course!
> Prozac is a drug widely used in the US for the treatment of
> depression. Depression is a very real and, for many people, a
> very serious problem; the medication often helps them have a
> more productive, useful life. In severe cases it can help them
> avoid suicide. It's not nice to make jokes about such people.
Certainly not (it tells a lot about the man).
> On the other hand, your ideas are, to say the least, extremely
> unorthodox, so you should probably not be too surprised if they
> result in unpleasant, even hostile, responses.
You got it right (extremely unorthodox):
Óne brain^many ideas = 1^ideas
Many brains^many ideas = many^ideas
People don't like this, because they are loosing control!
Help-line to people like David H. Lipman:
CALL memory-banq (1974-11-16, Drake, 1679 bits)
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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Kall, Mogens
1 bit/day = 5104 days = 13,97 years
1 bit/week = 35728 days = 97,82 years
This will take too long time!
Bit-compression:
-----------------
Suggest
bit 1 = + 001 minute (0h01m00s)
bit 2 = + 002 minute (0h02m00s)
bit 3 = + 004 minute (0h04m00s)
bit 4 = + 008 minute (0h08m00s)
bit 5 = + 016 minute (0h16m00s)
bit 6 = + 032 minute (0h32m00s)
bit 7 = + 064 minute (1h04m00s)
bit 8 = + 128 minute (2h08m00s)
The result wil then be:
1 byte/day = 638 days = 1,75 years
1 byte/week = 4466 days = 13,97 years
2 years !!! - That's fine - very good !!!
-
By this we will get (which also will help to understand the code):
Input "The Song of the Bride", (5104 bits)
(an time-example):
y=year
d=day
h=hour
m=minute
s=second
START:
Time=0000y000d00h00m00s000 - 0001 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y000d00h00m10s000 - 0002 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y000d00h00m31s416 - 0003 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 001 (out of 638 bytes)
10000000 = 1 (out of 256 possible, 0-255)
Time=0000y001d00h01m00s000 - 0004 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y001d00h01m10s000 - 0005 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y001d00h01m31s416 - 0006 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 002
01000000 = 2
Time=0000y002d00h02m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y002d00h02m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y002d00h02m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 003
11000000 = 3
Time=0000y003d00h03m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y003d00h03m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y003d00h03m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 004
00100000 = 4
Time=0000y004d00h04m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y004d00h04m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y004d00h04m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 005
10100000 = 5
Time=0000y005d00h05m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y005d00h05m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y005d00h05m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 006
01100000 = 6
Time=0000y006d00h06m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y006d00h06m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y006d00h06m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 007
11100000 = 7
Time=0000y007d00h07m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y007d00h07m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y007d00h07m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 008
00000000 = 0
Time=0000y008d00h00m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y008d00h00m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y008d00h00m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
(on this position they will be enable to understand the byte-syntax)
Byte 009
00000000 = 0
Time=0000y009d00h00m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y009d00h00m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y009d00h00m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 010
10000000 = 1
Time=0000y010d00h01m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y010d00h01m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y010d00h01m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 011
01100000 = 6
Time=0000y011d00h06m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y011d00h06m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y011d00h06m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 012
11100000 = 7
Time=0000y012d00h07m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y012d00h07m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y012d00h07m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 013
00010000 = 8
Time=0000y013d00h08m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y013d00h08m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y013d00h08m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 014
11110000 = 15
Time=0000y014d00h15m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y014d00h15m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y014d00h15m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 015
00001000 = 16
Time=0000y015d00h16m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y015d00h16m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y015d00h16m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 016
00000000 = 0
Time=0000y016d00h00m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y016d00h00m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y016d00h00m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 017
10000010 = 65
Time=0000y017d01h05m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y017d01h05m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y017d01h05m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 018
01100010 = 70
Time=0000y018d01h10m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y018d01h10m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y018d01h10m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 019
11100010 = 71
Time=0000y019d01h11m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y019d01h11m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y019d01h11m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 020
00010010 = 72
Time=0000y020d01h12m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y020d01h12m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y020d01h12m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 021
11110010 = 79
Time=0000y021d01h19m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y021d01h19m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y021d01h19m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 022
00001010 = 80
Time=0000y022d01h20m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y022d01h20m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y022d01h20m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 023
00000000 = 0
Time=0000y023d00h00m00s000 - 0000 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y023d00h00m10s000 - 0000 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y023d00h00m31s416 - 0000 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
und-so-weither.
Some of the bytes in "The Song of the Bride", (5104 bits) can be cut-off.
The Practical way:
------------------
To send out such a message can be done possible by using a parabolic
reflector (in space), when it is turns around (circumvolve) the Galactic
Northpol. Message will then be send to all "members" on the Galactic
Latitude 2 (perhaps5)°N to 2 (perhaps 5)°S.
Each circumvolve-frekvency must be lower than (an example:) 24hour minus
bit=255 (2h08s) minus Phi (31s416) = 21h51m.
Start position can be Galactic Langitude 180° (low "members")
Stop position will then be Gal.Lang. 179,999° or 180,001°
Wait-time (synkroniserüng 0-2h09m).
"Customers" around Gal.latitude 180° will get a dobble-signal
(1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 ...), but they will soon find out the answer to this
problem.
If we have more than óne parabolic reflector (in space), we can use one to
the area around Galactic Latitude +2 to -2, another +4 to +2 and-so-on. This
will also give some "customers" (around +1,9 to +2,1) dobble-signal.
The 3-impulse (position 0,1 and Phi) can be done practical possible by
using 3 stationary radio-transmitters inside the reflector (maybe we have to
chance the time a little, 31s416).
-
Wish You all good hunting!
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Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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maus.wissenschaft.astronomie file 0461
pl.sci.kosmos.seti .................. file 0462
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Time for OUTPUT:
2003-03-27, Thursday, CET 10:10
David H. Lipman
I think you should stop taking LSD !
Dave :)
Kall, Mogens
Hey Dave,
I'm sorry, if my speech-input make You ... !
Have a nice day.
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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Kall, Mogens
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Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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de.sci.astronomie ................. file 0477
fr.sci.astronomie ................... file 0478
it.scienza.astronomia.seti ....... file 0479
maus.wissenschaft.astronomie file 0480
pl.sci.kosmos.seti .................. file 0481
sci.astro.seti .......................... file 0482
se.vetenskap.astronomi ......... file 0483
tw.bbs.sci.astronomy ............ file 0484
uk.sci.astronomy ................... file 0485
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2003-03-27, Thursday, CET 22:49
Chris Priest
> [something incomprehensible]
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> Internal:
>
> File-name:
> Re: Open letter to Dr. David P. Anderson, Project Director - suggest (0371)
> 0476
>
> This file has been send to the Newsgroups:
> alt.astronomy ....................... file 0475
> alt.sci.seti ............................. file 0476
> de.sci.astronomie ................. file 0477
> fr.sci.astronomie ................... file 0478
> it.scienza.astronomia.seti ....... file 0479
> maus.wissenschaft.astronomie file 0480
> pl.sci.kosmos.seti .................. file 0481
> sci.astro.seti .......................... file 0482
> se.vetenskap.astronomi ......... file 0483
> tw.bbs.sci.astronomy ............ file 0484
> uk.sci.astronomy ................... file 0485
>
> Time for OUTPUT:
> 2003-03-27, Thursday, CET 22:49
Mmmm... 11 groups. Have you ever considered sending just one message to
multiple groups so that I only get to read your messages once? (Like
this one)
Chris
Chris Priest
>
> Dear Dr. David P. Anderson,
>
> Thank You for the E-mail.
>
> May I come with a suggest:
>
> If I was an alien, I would know, that other aliens allways are listning into
> the Center of our Galaxy, because the probability-of-Contact is highest on
> this position. Therefore I will - first of all - send a message out to their
> (our) positions. I will expect, that they (You) are listning on ALL-time
> (local: 24 hours/day). My message will therefore be - first off all - a
> identification-of-Intelligence, so that they (You) will know, that I am
> alive!
> A dead stone can NOT find out the mathematics constant Phi (22/7) be
> itself. The constant is the beginning of all mathematics. Therefore I will
> use this simple constant to tell You "I AM (ALIVE)".
Why Pi (circle) when e (natural logarithm) is more fundamental
mathematically?
Why 22/7 when 355/113 is a more accurate rational approximation?
Why such a big frequency ratio when the inter- and intra-galactic media
affects different frequencies differently, and the larger the frequency
difference, the larger the differential affect? Consider attenuation,
dispersion, smearing, speed of EMR, and the transmitter and receiver
sizes and tuning for instance.
>
> I can send my message out in two ways:
>
> (I will allways use the Frequency around 1,420 GHz, because this frequency
> is coming from Hydrogen, the first atom, the beginning)
>
> 1.
> Time = 0 ............ (1. impulse)
> Time = 1 ............ (2. impulse)
> Time = Phi (22/7) (3. impulse)
>
> 2.
> Time = 0 (1. impulse at 1,420 GHz)
> Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz * Phi)
> or/and
> Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz / Phi)
Huh????? Anyway, data sent at the same time at each frequency will not
arrive at the same time. So how do you synchronise the clock?
>
> I will use the first syntax, because I know, You only have one "ear", one
> frequency around 1,420 GHz.
>
> -
>
> I have other "customers" (I still do not know Your existence; I just hope).
> Therefore I must also CALL them up (around Your area). This will take a
> time, but I will CALL You up again, after a while (My "phone"-call can come
> after a hour, a day, a week, a mounth or a year) - Please "HANG ON".
>
> I will use the same syntax to CALL UP an other Galaxy (like Andromeda, M31).
Why bother? Do you think the human race will remember in 5 million years
time that it sent out a message now and should be listening for a reply
(even if the data was not lost in the noise)?
>
> My message could be ...
>
> Input memory from file 0227:
> (2002-12-09, Monday, CET 12:55)
>
> The Song of the Bride (5104 bits)
So what's the Song of the Bride? How should an alien interpret these
bits?
Chris.
P.S. Am I feeding a troll here?
Randall R Schulz
Then your conterpart will flame him about cross-posting.
Now it's your turn to flame me about the horror of top-posting...
Randall Schulz
Chris Priest
>
> Chris,
>
> Then your conterpart will flame him about cross-posting.
>
his case.
> Now it's your turn to flame me about the horror of top-posting...
Indeed, scum of the earth etc., etc. :-)
Cheers,
Chris.
Kall, Mogens
> Mmmm... 11 groups. Have you ever considered sending just one message to
> multiple groups so that I only get to read your messages once? (Like
> this one)
Hey Chris,
I'm sorry, but - You see - I try to call-up all "Einstein"s (include You).
(some people just look'ing and use'ing one group)
Input memory from file 0443:
Óne brain^many ideas = 1^ideas
Many brains^many ideas = many^ideas
When we work together, we will closer to our destination.
My first message was just óne message to multiple groups (file 0371), but it
didn't work!
Your multiple is work'ing (alt.sci.seti,sci.astro.seti) - Thank You very
much!
There is also an other thing:
"Some" people from - for instance - France and Italy don't like english.
I told them this (file 471)
I know, this is a french newsgroup, but if I got such kind of news in a
swedish newsgroup, I would be glad; because I want to find out the answers.
If I not was enable to understand the written language, I would ask You or
another person to help me!
Next message is also to You igt. Phi .
JUMP 0487
2003-03-28, Friday, CET 09:33
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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2003-03-28, Friday, CET 09:32
Kall, Mogens
> Why Pi (circle) when e (natural logarithm) is more fundamental
> mathematically?
Thank You for Your responce.
I like Your idéa.
You maybe right (I'm not a good mathematician; I'm just use'ing it)
Can You give more explanation of this - I forgot everything about e
(natural logarithm) - in simple english (my english is very bad).
> Why 22/7 when 355/113 is a more accurate rational approximation?
Phi (22/7 or 355/113) is - in this case - just a "mark-pointer", so that
Life-2 knows, that the signal is coming from Life-1. Your suggest (e -
natural logarithm) is maybe better!
> Why such a big frequency ratio when the inter- and intra-galactic media
> affects different frequencies differently, and the larger the frequency
> difference, the larger the differential affect? Consider attenuation,
> dispersion, smearing, speed of EMR, and the transmitter and receiver
> sizes and tuning for instance.
These lines is difficult for me to understand. But I will try:
Are You talk'ing igt. ...
> > 2.
> > Time = 0 (1. impulse at 1,420 GHz)
> > Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz * Phi)
> > or/and
> > Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz / Phi)
We can change it:
Time = 0 (1. impulse at 1,420 GHz
Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,4201 GHz) - Definition of 1
Time = 0 (3. impulse at 1,420314159 GHz) - Definition of Phi
But then the transmitter-Life only can do communications with
receiver-people (with many "ears") like us since 1990- (receiver-people like
us from 1950- is cut-off)
My suggest is written in file 0457.
(2003-03-27, Thursday, CET 10:10)
> Huh????? Anyway, data sent at the same time at each frequency will not
> arrive at the same time. So how do you synchronise the clock?
Are You sure about this. As far as I have learned, electromagnetic waves (no
batter which frequency they have) allways have the speed of light in space!
> > I will use the same syntax to CALL UP an other Galaxy (like Andromeda,
M31).
>
> Why bother? Do you think the human race will remember in 5 million years
> time that it sent out a message now and should be listening for a reply
> (even if the data was not lost in the noise)?
I'm sorry - You misunderstood me.
Drake was list'ing to M31 in the 1970-
The point is this:
If only óne Life-2 is reality inside M31 the delay time is only 2,2 million
years. If they got contact with someone from our Galaxy, they will also be
inable to tell us about it (include their address). Then we can call them up
on the local-"phone".
> > My message could be ...
> >
> > Input memory from file 0227:
> > (2002-12-09, Monday, CET 12:55)
> >
> > The Song of the Bride (5104 bits)
>
> So what's the Song of the Bride? How should an alien interpret these
> bits?
To understand this - please JUMP file 0476.
(2003-03-27, Thursday, CET 22:50)
... and then perhaps You will understand, why I call it "Song of the Bride".
>
> Chris.
>
> P.S. Am I feeding a troll here?
No - of course NOT. Thank You for Your responce, Sir!
Have a nice day.
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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2003-03-28, Friday, CET 09:33
Chris Priest
>
> "Chris Priest" wrote:
>
> > Why Pi (circle) when e (natural logarithm) is more fundamental
> > mathematically?
>
> Thank You for Your responce.
>
> I like Your idéa.
>
> You maybe right (I'm not a good mathematician; I'm just use'ing it)
>
> Can You give more explanation of this - I forgot everything about e
> (natural logarithm) - in simple english (my english is very bad).
What function does not change under differentiation? That is, what is f
such that
df/dx = f(x) ?
The answer is e to the power x where e ~= 2.718281828...
> [re-ordered for clarity]
> Are You sure about this. As far as I have learned, electromagnetic waves (no
> batter which frequency they have) allways have the speed of light in space!
In a vacuum, photons travel at the speed of light. However, the space
between the stars and galaxies is not empty, so photons there travel a
little slower than the vacuum speed of light.
Here is a definition of Refractive Index found by Google:
"The absolute refractive index of a medium is the ratio of the speed of
electromagnetic radiation in free space to the speed of that radiation
in that medium. As the refractive index varies with wavelength, the
wavelength should be specified."
So the local speed of light, or the speed at which photons travel,
depends on the refractive index of the medium and the wavelength of the
photon.
Typical glass has an R.I. of around 1.5, so light travels at about
200,000 km/sec in glass.
Note that it is possible to accelerate electrons or other particles so
that they are travelling faster than the local speed of light, and this
gives rise to Cherenkov Radiation if they are charged.
>
> > Why 22/7 when 355/113 is a more accurate rational approximation?
>
> Phi (22/7 or 355/113) is - in this case - just a "mark-pointer", so that
> Life-2 knows, that the signal is coming from Life-1. Your suggest (e -
> natural logarithm) is maybe better!
But there are so many other interesting numbers too. You would have to
continuously monitor a very wide frequency band to pick up co-ordinated
signals. And because the local speed of light varies with frequency, a
pulse sent at the same time at two frequencies will arrive at different
times. How would you know that the two pulses are connected when
received?
> > Why such a big frequency ratio when the inter- and intra-galactic media
> > affects different frequencies differently, and the larger the frequency
> > difference, the larger the differential affect? Consider attenuation,
> > dispersion, smearing, speed of EMR, and the transmitter and receiver
> > sizes and tuning for instance.
Consider a photon or several for a pulse travelling through the
interstellar medium, atoms and molecules with varying characteristics
like density and velocity. Photons could be absorbed (attenuation),
bounce off in a different direction (dispersion), take slightly
different paths (smearing), arrive at different times (local speed of
light) etc. A radio dish suitable for sending and/or receiving at
1.420GHz is unlikely to work well at three times or one third of that
frequency (Pi or e).
>
> These lines is difficult for me to understand. But I will try:
>
> Are You talk'ing igt. ...
> > > 2.
> > > Time = 0 (1. impulse at 1,420 GHz)
> > > Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz * Phi)
> > > or/and
> > > Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,420 GHz / Phi)
>
> We can change it:
>
> Time = 0 (1. impulse at 1,420 GHz
> Time = 0 (2. impulse at 1,4201 GHz) - Definition of 1
> Time = 0 (3. impulse at 1,420314159 GHz) - Definition of Phi
>
> But then the transmitter-Life only can do communications with
> receiver-people (with many "ears") like us since 1990- (receiver-people like
> us from 1950- is cut-off)
The frequency number is purely dependent on our definition of a second.
Ratios are still the same if aliens use a different unit time, but
addition of a number like 1 or Pi to a frequency does not compute to the
same value for sender and receiver using different unit times.
All in all, listening at a small frequency range to extract a signal is
best, like seti@home does. But of course different SETI projects may
listen at different frequencies. It is not until we get an intelligent
signal at one frequency that it is worth looking at that source at other
very different frequencies.
Cheers,
Chris.
Robi
news:kSTga.1284$mI2.2...@news000.worldonline.dk...
> "Chris Priest" wrote:
>
> > Mmmm... 11 groups. Have you ever considered sending just one message to
> > multiple groups so that I only get to read your messages once? (Like
> > this one)
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> I'm sorry, but - You see - I try to call-up all "Einstein"s (include You).
> (some people just look'ing and use'ing one group)
Hello Einstein,
crossposting is what he means.
> Input memory from file 0443:
> Óne brain^many ideas = 1^ideas
> Many brains^many ideas = many^ideas
howzabout you place those "Ideas" on a website and just post the link to it?
Makes for a slim message.
> When we work together, we will closer to our destination.
>
> My first message was just óne message to multiple groups (file 0371), but it
> didn't work!
but not crossposted.
> Your multiple is work'ing (alt.sci.seti,sci.astro.seti) - Thank You very
> much!
>
> There is also an other thing:
> "Some" people from - for instance - France and Italy don't like english.
>
> I told them this (file 471)
> I know, this is a french newsgroup, but if I got such kind of news in a
> swedish newsgroup, I would be glad; because I want to find out the answers.
> If I not was enable to understand the written language, I would ask You or
> another person to help me!
>
>
> Next message is also to You igt. Phi .
> JUMP 0487
> 2003-03-28, Friday, CET 09:33
>
>
> Regards,
> Mogens Kall
> The servant of Michael
> ---------------------------------------------------------
the above should be formatted as
--
(bar)(bar)(space)(return)
> Internal:
>
> File-name:
> Re: Open letter to Dr. David P. Anderson, Project Director - suggest (0371)
> 0486
>
> This file has been send to the Newsgroups:
> alt.sci.seti
> sci.astro.seti
>
> Time for OUTPUT:
> 2003-03-28, Friday, CET 09:32
--
Robi
(2.4#@ 2.29 yrs)
Kall, Mogens
> Hello Einstein,
Sorry - I'm not Einstein; I'm just a fool.
> howzabout you place those "Ideas" on a website and just post the link to
it?
> Makes for a slim message.
Good idea,
> the above should be formatted as
> --
> (bar)(bar)(space)(return)
No - I'm sorry. You see, I use the bar*many (in letters and now also on
news-to-groups) as a mark-pointer to show (for our eyes) something happened
(before and after)
> (2.4#@ 2.29 yrs)
M31 ?
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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2003-03-29, Saturday, CET 07:35
Kall, Mogens
What function does not change under differentiation? That is, what is f
such that
df/dx = f(x) ?
The answer is e to the power x where e ~= 2.718281828...
Thank You for Your help!
... (cut 2003-03-29)
All in all, listening at a small frequency range to extract a signal is
best, like seti@home does. But of course different SETI projects may
listen at different frequencies. It is not until we get an intelligent
signal at one frequency that it is worth looking at that source at other
very different frequencies.
Oh - Now I see! You misunderstood me:
File 0437:
I will use the first syntax, because I know, You only have one "ear", one
frequency around 1,420 GHz.
File 0457:
START:
Time=0000y000d00h00m00s000 - 0001 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y000d00h00m10s000 - 0002 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y000d00h00m31s416 - 0003 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
Byte 001
10000000 = 1
Time=0000y001d00h01m00s000 - 0004 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y001d00h01m10s000 - 0005 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y001d00h01m31s416 - 0006 inpulse - Phi (22/7)
-
0001 impulse at 1,420 GHz
0002 impulse at 1,420 GHz
0003 impulse at 1,420 GHz
and-so-on.
only óne frequenzy!
(the frequency MUST be extract)
-
If we use Your suggest igt. e, then the result will be:
START:
Time=0000y000d00h00m00s000 - 0001 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y000d00h00m10s000 - 0002 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y000d00h00m27s183 - 0003 inpulse - e ~= 2.718281828...
Byte 001
10000000 = 1
Time=0000y001d00h01m00s000 - 0004 inpulse - 0
Time=0000y001d00h01m10s000 - 0005 inpulse - 1
Time=0000y001d00h01m27s183 - 0006 inpulse - e ~= 2.718281828...
Regards,
Mogens Kall
The servant of Michael
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