Fairy tales in schools and univesities
John Smith
world are taught fairy tales , that perches determine to go to lans
and transform to frogs etc evolution theory humbogue.
Why science (creationism ) is not allowed to teach ? What universities
have to fear in science ? Why science ( creationism ) is feared ?
Questions that modern scientists ponder. History shows that science
wins fairy tales inevitably. Science needs not torture chambers while
fairy tales seem to need. Lets turn back on evolution theory.
http://users.utu.fi/pertkoiv/
dlzc
> It is inconciveable that in the universities in US
> and all over the world are taught fairy tales , that
> perches determine to go to lans and transform
> to frogs etc evolution theory humbogue.
So, Pertti, you think that only creationism should be taught?
> Why science (creationism ) is not allowed to
> teach ?
Because it cannot be tested. There is no basis upon which to form
other studies. If you do, then you find that you can use those
techiniques to make reasonable projections back before "creation". So
you end up without creationism, or at least a 6000 year old Universe.
> What universities have to fear in science ?
Nothing, because science can be made fully self-consistent,
eventually.
> Why science ( creationism ) is feared ?
Several reasons. It obviates any reason for trying to understand
Nature. Because She is the way God made her, and trying to change Her
is a sin.
> Questions that modern scientists ponder.
> History shows that science wins fairy tales
> inevitably.
Except that *you* do not accept this.
> Science needs not torture chambers while
> fairy tales seem to need.
But churches provide both.
> Lets turn back on evolution theory.
Let's spam crap to unrelated newsgroups. No wait, let's don't.
David A. Smith
Double-A
> It is inconciveable that in the universities in US and all over the
> world are taught fairy tales , that perches determine to go to lans
> and transform to frogs etc evolution theory humbogue.
Humbogue? Quaint! I wonder if that's how Scrooge spelt it?
> Why science (creationism ) is not allowed to teach ? What universities
> have to fear in science ? Why science ( creationism ) is feared ?
> Questions that modern scientists ponder. History shows that science
> wins fairy tales inevitably. Science needs not torture chambers while
> fairy tales seem to need. Lets turn back on evolution theory.http://users.utu.fi/pertkoiv/
Try Oral Roberts University.
Double-A
Ron Miller
At least I evolved enough intelligence to spell "humbug".
R
Ollie
No worries, the Big Bang is straight out of the biblical book of Genesis,
eh?
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Ollie
Ron Dean
I thought Genesis say that in the beginning God created the earth?
Nothing about the big bang. What's you point?
>
Sember
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Ronnie, if you don't already get the point, no amount of explaining will
bring it home for you.
Here's a hint:
"LET THERE BE LIGHT" = "BIG BANG"
Different words, same fable.
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BradGuth
> "Ron Dean" <"Ron Dean"@email.com> wrote in messagenews:H3ldn.145226$kQ5....@newsfe08.iad...
How big of a bang in terms of visible and invisible photons was
Sirius(B) to our terrestrial environment?
How many million years ago did this local "LET THERE BE LIGHT" =
"BIG BANG" take place, and for how long (start to finish) did it last?
~ BG
Double-A
>
> - Show quoted text -
Genesis chapter 1:
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the
face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light
from the darkness.
5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And
the evening and the morning were the first day.
Wow. He did all that on the "first day"! I would call that a
"Bang"! Maybe it was during the "inflationary period" so he could get
things done FTL!
Double-A
Androcles
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Genesis chapter 1:
Double-A
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"And God saw the light" means He invented the lens, "that it was
good" means it had no spherical aberration or colour fringing.
"God divided the light from the darkness" means He invented the
telescope tube (but it wasn't a very good one or we'd be told it was).
"And the light leaks He called Dusk" somehow got left out.
Bast
While I had to check in the dusty book I have, it's more like,....
"in the beginning God created the heaven's and the earth"
And while the details are lacking, it still implies there was nothing, then
suddenly EVERYTHING.
Sound familiar ?
Now if the silly scientists would say the universe always was, and had no
beginning.
Do you think the Church book people would have accepted that without a
fight ?
Look at the fun and games that went on just about how old the earth actually
was.
Sember
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No "bang" there, Bradster, the B star got big and red and then dwarfed out!
Slight possibility it could SN1a when the A star expands to red giant!
B's pretty far away from A, though, so that's a longshot!
> How many million years ago did this local "LET THERE BE LIGHT" =
> "BIG BANG" take place, and for how long (start to finish) did it last?
>
> ~ BG
There was an explosive event near 14 billion years ago!
They happen from time to time.
The universe was already here when it happened, though!
It's been here forever, you know!
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BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Are you're saying that red supergiants don't go through any helium
flashover?
~ BG
Sember
Of course they CAN!
Javi
>
> "Ron Dean" <"Ron Dean"@email.com> wrote in message
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>> Ollie wrote:
>>> On Nov 13, 1:55 pm, John Smith <pertt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It is inconciveable that in the universities in US and all over the
>>>> world are taught fairy tales , that perches determine to go to lans
>>>> and transform to frogs etc evolution theory humbogue.
>>>> Why science (creationism ) is not allowed to teach ? What universities
>>>> have to fear in science ? Why science ( creationism ) is feared ?
>>>> Questions that modern scientists ponder. History shows that science
>>>> wins fairy tales inevitably. Science needs not torture chambers while
>>>> fairy tales seem to need. Lets turn back on evolution
>>>> theory.http://users.utu.fi/pertkoiv/
>>>
>>> No worries, the Big Bang is straight out of the biblical book of
>>> Genesis, eh?
>> Sorry, I don't recall reading anything about the _big_bang_ in Genesis. I
>> thought Genesis say that in the beginning God created the earth? Nothing
>> about the big bang. What's you point?
>>>
>
>
> While I had to check in the dusty book I have, it's more like,....
> "in the beginning God created the heaven's and the earth"
>
> And while the details are lacking, it still implies there was nothing,
> then suddenly EVERYTHING.
> Sound familiar ?
Nop, the Big Bang theory doesn't say that. It says that there was not a
before. Time begins with big bang, so you what it implicitly states is that
Universe always existed. There was no time when universe didn't exist.
>
> Now if the silly scientists would say the universe always was, and had no
> beginning.
> Do you think the Church book people would have accepted that without a
> fight ?
They can fight what they want. Reality won't change because of that.
Antares 531
wrote:
Quite right, and the book of Daniel tells us that knowledge will
increase at the end of the age. That has happened with gusto.
I'm talking about Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words,
and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and
fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Gordon
Antares 531
<doub...@hush.com> wrote:
>On Feb 13, 10:02�am, "Sember" <darlaperen...@maol.com> wrote:
>> "Ron Dean" <"Ron Dean"@email.com> wrote in messagenews:H3ldn.145226$kQ5....@newsfe08.iad...
>>
(snip)
Gerald L. Schroeder wrote a book, The Science of God, IBSN
0-7679-0303-X, on this subject. It was copyrighted in 1997, but is
still very much in line with our knowledge. It is worth reading if one
has a desire to broaden their understanding on these matters.
Gordon
Brad Guth
So whatever truly big helium flashover is optional, because?
How otherwise are white dwarfs created?
~ BG