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6EQUJ5

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Jul 26, 2008, 2:00:12 AM7/26/08
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We should keep our minds open to such things in a universe that is
relatively infinite.


"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm
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> In thousands of years, Brad Guth will be a legend.
>
> You all will be totally forgotten.


Chris.B

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Jul 26, 2008, 4:42:54 AM7/26/08
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On Jul 26, 4:00 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm
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> In thousands of years, Brad Guth will be a legend.
>
> You all will be totally forgotten.

I want to live for a thousand years.
Just to put them right about Brad Guth
(if the subject ever comes up) :-)

BradGuth

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Jul 26, 2008, 9:43:45 AM7/26/08
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I totally agree, that an open what-if mindset is always required, and
the what-if I'm ever remembered at all it'll be centuries after the
fact of this planet having come to its own demise, with the radiation
mutated survivors trying to figure out what the hell was getting
missed way back when practical actions could have saved the day, so to
speak.

This universe and perhaps of its sister or polar opposite BB universe
may in fact go on forever, but interactions within are going to likely
reset the game of life as we know it, as galaxies manage to collide
and as rogue stars, black holes and solar system like planets get
tossed about like so much random buckshot from lose cannons, not to
mention reformulated entirely from scratch.

The comet like tails of our Selene/moon and that of Venus are in fact
likely sources of those kinds of cosmic tough little microbes/spores,
as solar wind thrown our way from one world towards another that
passes directly through a wash or rather dusting of whatever survived
elsewhere. This notion doesn't exclude those other complex forms of
life sequestered safely within thick ice as having arrived into our
environment, nor have I ever been excluding our local/terrestrial
evolution.

The toasty geothermal and thereby newish/active surface and mostly CO2
and S8 atmosphere of Venus is perhaps too much for the likes of
accommodating our notions of intelligent life, especially in the
buff. However, with some degree of local evolution and especially
upon utilizing technology is what makes Venus potentially livable for
those of us a little smarter than a hot rock.

Unfortunately, our traditional naysim loaded mindset that's primarily
faith-based and otherwise mainstream taught as though it's the one and
only word of our mostly white God, suggesting that our form of
terrestrial intelligent life is all there is to behold, and that all
else is merely of inert eye-candy that couldn't possibly have
contributed to any form of terrestrial life as we know it, is simply
status quo horsefeathers (aka intellectual flatulence) at best.

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

BradGuth

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Jul 26, 2008, 9:57:07 AM7/26/08
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I'm not the one and only messenger from hell that's trying to draw
attention to the extremely nearby planet Venus.

Many others have tried and having failed, including the somewhat
recent efforts by John Ackerman ("An Alternate View of Venus") that
reinterpreted much of the best available science pertaining to Venus
and came up with an entirely different analogy that makes the planet
Venus extremely interesting and worth our further exploring.

Instead there’s simply too much ongoing need-to-know and otherwise
layers of taboo/nondisclosure imposed as to anything Venus related, as
though those in charge of our private parts and most of everything
else that matters have something to hide.

6EQUJ5

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Jul 26, 2008, 2:03:36 PM7/26/08
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People like Brad Guth who are dominated by a science fiction mindset don't
make good
scientists and usually don't have the intelligence to do real science.


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BradGuth

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Jul 26, 2008, 7:51:33 PM7/26/08
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On Jul 26, 11:03 am, "6EQUJ5" <Q...@gmail.com> wrote:
> People like Brad Guth who are dominated by a science fiction mindset don't
> make good
> scientists and usually don't have the intelligence to do real science.

Since I'm only dominated the your mainstream status quo science, by
way of your eye-candy and that of our government promoted hype, and
yet my nose isn't brown and I'm not even a devout Zionist/Nazi (aka
pretend-Atheist); what does that make me?

Why is Venus so insurmountable for intelligent other life? (assuming
equal or better than terrestrial survival intelligence)

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

>
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

eyeball

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Jul 26, 2008, 8:29:35 PM7/26/08
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On Jul 25, 10:00 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm
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> In thousands of years, Brad Guth will be a legend.
>
> You all will be totally forgotten.

Run everyone! The tinfoil hat society is going to team up against us!

6EQUJ5

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Jul 26, 2008, 10:27:08 PM7/26/08
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> People like Brad Guth who are dominated by a science fiction mindset don't
> make good
> scientists and usually don't have the intelligence to do real science.

Since I'm only dominated the your mainstream status quo science, by
way of your eye-candy and that of our government promoted hype, and
yet my nose isn't brown and I'm not even a devout Zionist/Nazi (aka
pretend-Atheist); what does that make me?

ummmm...an idiot?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

I rest my case

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BradGuth

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Jul 27, 2008, 12:09:00 PM7/27/08
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On Jul 26, 7:33 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:

> 6EQUJ5 wrote:
> >> People like Brad Guth who are dominated by a science fiction mindset don't
> >> make good
> >> scientists and usually don't have the intelligence to do real science.
>
> > Since I'm only dominated the your mainstream status quo science, by
> > way of your eye-candy and that of our government promoted hype, and
> > yet my nose isn't brown and I'm not even a devout Zionist/Nazi (aka
> > pretend-Atheist); what does that make me?
>
> A planetary scientist? Oh, I know, a climate scientist.
>
> > I rest my case

Try observationology scientist, because it best fits my limited
expertise that's often dyslexic encrypted for good measure.

You folks might care to reconsider the following:

”Whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell

meaning those in control of whatever gets recorded as having happened
or having been discovered are also establishing their mainstream holy
grail as to who gets future credit and/or blame for whatever, and thus
more importantly of who gets first crack at whatever future credits
and that of receiving our public support, instead of receiving
continual denial, avoidance and systematic banishment. The very root
of this orchestrated naysay imposed action against outsiders is faith-
based and otherwise cloaked as to suggest that no one public agency,
private group or individuals are ever in charge of anything that gets
overlooked or goes terribly wrong.

If the mainstream status quo of damage-control didn’t have fingers,
they’d have to point with something else. (perhaps their brown nose
would due)

Stephen Malbon

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Jul 27, 2008, 1:21:35 PM7/27/08
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6EQUJ5 wrote:
> ummmm...an idiot?
Got it in one.
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BradGuth

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Jul 27, 2008, 6:28:07 PM7/27/08
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On Jul 27, 11:13 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> In America, idiots are honored and rewarded.

That's true. Just look at our resident warlord(GW Bush) and company
of brown-nosed minions.

Jeff Findley

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Jul 27, 2008, 7:10:46 PM7/27/08
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"6EQUJ5" <Q...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> We should keep our minds open to such things in a universe that is
> relatively infinite.

I think you've kept your mind so open that your brains are falling out.
Brad Guth is a net kook, nothing more.

Jeff
--
A clever person solves a problem.
A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein


eyeball

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Jul 27, 2008, 7:11:11 PM7/27/08
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On Jul 27, 12:09 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
it best fits my limited
> expertise that's often dyslexic encrypted for good measure.
>
And qualified to lecture us brown nosed pretend athiest minions why?
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BradGuth

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Jul 28, 2008, 1:29:15 AM7/28/08
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Only because of my backwards way of deductively figuring things out,
as such is entirely different than the mainstream norm.

Observationology is all about our using the best of deductive
reasoning that we can muster.

Trial and error science future is all about our making as few of
mistakes as possible, and you can not possibly manage to do that if
you can not deductively think for yourself, and you can not
deductively think for yourself if history has been skewed away from
the best available truth(s), and it gets especially bad if evidence is
getting excluded or banished because of the messenger or unfortunate
circumstances.

BradGuth

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Jul 29, 2008, 3:47:48 PM7/29/08
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On Jul 25, 7:00 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm
>
> In thousands of years, Brad Guth will be a legend.
>
> You all will be totally forgotten.

On Jul 29, 11:21 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
> Cactus Saul when China opens a fast food take out on the Moon there will
> be no spoons. I relate that to Chinese mothers never making Jello Go
> figure Bert

A Chinese takeout at the Selene/moon L1 is far more likely. Nearly
absolute zero gravity at the absolute minimum of orbital velocity, and
1e-21 bar worth of a vacuum that you can do all sorts of nifty fast
food things with. There's also never any shortage of clean and
renewable energy to work with, and it's extremely easy and energy
efficient to deploy whatever fast food as home deliveries intended for
reaching those of Earth or Selene.

The reentry into Earth's polluted environment takes care of whatever
last minute cooking, and the double IR worth of that roasting daytime
surface of our physically dark Selene/moon does essentially the same,
as well as for every bite being rather nicely gamma sterilized. As a
franchised fast food service investment, you can't possibly go wrong.
It's a win-win for China and their fast food customers to boot.

Check out Clarke Station, Boeing OASIS or that of my tethered 256e6
tonne LSE-CM/ISS. This commercial application and applied technology
on behalf of private enterprise would even continue to function once
having relocated our Selene/moon out to Earth L1, although it would
become extremely cold and the required energy for this fast food
takeout would have to be imported and/or delivered via the primary LSE-
CM/ISS tether and of its dipole element that could safely reach to
within less than 2r of mother Earth (possibly as close as 1.1r).

BradGuth

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Jul 29, 2008, 4:34:47 PM7/29/08
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Why is mainstream astronomy so deathly afraid of allowing the best
available truths to emerge?

Why has religion been the stealth puppet-master of those in charge of
most everything else?

What's so terribly wrong with there being other intelligent life
(possibly wiser than most of us) outside of Earth?

Scott Hedrick

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Jul 26, 2008, 5:43:35 PM7/26/08
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> "kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
> news:Gzvik.4672$1N1....@newsfe07.iad...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm
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>> In thousands of years, Brad Guth will be a legend.

Of course- a legendary *bad example*.

What will separate Brad from other historical bad examples, like Rasputin,
Benedict Arnold and Al Gore, is that the others, at one time, added value to
the societies they lived in.


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

BradGuth

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Jul 29, 2008, 9:25:25 PM7/29/08
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On Jul 25, 7:00 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7525390.stm
>
> In thousands of years, Brad Guth will be a legend.
>
> You all will be totally forgotten.

Here's a little something else that'll be just as forgotten until I'm
dead and gone.

Moon Water < 750,000 ppb (and counting)
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=moon-once-harbored-water

There’s all sorts of wet moon claims (again), of our crack NASA, JPL
and fellow Carnegie Institution of Washington and Case Western Reserve
University as offering the very latest of our public mass spectrometer
wizardry, as having supposedly uncovered 260,000 ppb (<750,000 ppb) or
possibly greater worth of h2o to behold within the once ice covered
crust of our Selene/moon. Meanwhile, at no surprise there’s not 1 ppb
of surface h2o to behold on Mars. Therefore, artificially sustaining
life or much of having to accommodate any commercial/private
enterprise as based upon utilizing Mars is kind of nullified by the
multi-trillion dollar public cost of just getting whatever human
populated enterprise there in the first place, whereas our extremely
nearby Selene/moon is looking rather good.

On Jul 29, 11:21 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
> Cactus Saul when China opens a fast food take out on the Moon there will
> be no spoons. I relate that to Chinese mothers never making Jello Go
> figure Bert

A Chinese takeout at the Selene/moon L1 is far more likely. Nearly

absolute zero gravity while at the absolute minimum of orbital


velocity, and 1e-21 bar worth of a vacuum that you can do all sorts of
nifty fast food things with. There's also never any shortage of clean
and renewable energy to work with, and it's extremely easy and energy

efficient to resupply as well as deploy whatever fast food as home or
office deliveries intended for reaching those of Earth or Selene.

The reentry into Earth's polluted environment takes care of whatever
last minute cooking, and the double IR worth of that roasting daytime
surface of our physically dark Selene/moon does essentially the same

(though taking a bit longer), as well as for every bite being rather


nicely gamma sterilized. As a franchised fast food service
investment, you can't possibly go wrong. It's a win-win for China and

all of their fast food operatives and customers to boot.

Check out Clarke Station, Boeing OASIS or that of my tethered 256e6

tonne LSE-CM/ISS. This fully commercial off-world application and of
the applied technology on behalf of private enterprise would even


continue to function once having relocated our Selene/moon out to

Earth L1, although situated much further away from the moon and
obviously becoming extremely cold, with the required energy for this
fast food takeout depot/gateway/oasis having to be imported or
delivered via the primary LSE-CM/ISS tether and/or from its dipole
element that could safely reach its termination pod to within less

P. Edward Murray

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Jul 29, 2008, 10:36:30 PM7/29/08
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And exactly what did Brad discover? Hmmmm?

BradGuth

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Jul 30, 2008, 1:11:37 AM7/30/08
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On Jul 29, 7:36 pm, "P. Edward Murray" <P.EdwardMur...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> And exactly what did Brad discover? Hmmmm?

Nothing you'd be interested in.

Pat Flannery

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Jul 30, 2008, 4:17:02 AM7/30/08
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Scott Hedrick wrote:
>
> What will separate Brad from other historical bad examples, like Rasputin,
> Benedict Arnold and Al Gore, is that the others, at one time, added value to
> the societies they lived in.
>

Rasputin was a positive force at one time?
I doubt it.

Pat

Jeff Findley

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Jul 30, 2008, 9:43:50 AM7/30/08
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"P. Edward Murray" <P.Edwar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And exactly what did Brad discover? Hmmmm?

Who cares. Any discovery of his is just a figment of his imagination. Most
sensible readers here have him in their killfile, since his drivel simply
isn't worth the time spent reading it.

BradGuth

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Jul 30, 2008, 9:44:24 AM7/30/08
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You'd doubt anything that rocks your good ship LOLLIPOP, including
your own mother if need be. God forbid, revise anything of history to
represent the actual truths, because our Pat Flannery would likely
impolde.

Eric Chomko

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Jul 31, 2008, 4:44:34 PM7/31/08
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Wait this reminds me of a movie where a guy gets thrown into the
future and finds society so screwed up that they forget how to grow
food. The guy from the past is declared the world's smartest human
when he teaches them how to actually grow food (corporations had been
supplied processed food for years and no one knew how it was done).

Anywat, THAT society if it ever comes to pass would worship Brad.

BradGuth

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On Jul 30, 6:43 am, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find...@ugs.nojunk.com>
wrote:
> "P. Edward Murray" <P.EdwardMur...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e693af73-df38-44f2...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>
> > And exactly what did Brad discover? Hmmmm?
>
> Who cares. Any discovery of his is just a figment of his imagination. Most
> sensible readers here have him in their killfile, since his drivel simply
> isn't worth the time spent reading it.
>
> Jeff
> --
> A clever person solves a problem.
> A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein

And yet another mainstream DARPA damage control reply, via the brown
nose of Jeff Findley.

What's so unusually dark and scary about Venus?

Technically the planet Venus is not too geothermally hot unless you
plan upon landing yourself into an active lava/mud pit, or directly on
top of any number of those geothermally pumped CO2 and S8 gas/vapor
vents.

The ridged composite airship method eliminates any need of touching
down. But then that has always been known. The required technologies
have also been well enough known, that would have permitted such a
substantial mission as of a decade ago.

Setting up a cool POOF City at Venus L2 has also been technically
doable, as of more than a decade ago.

BradGuth

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Aug 1, 2008, 11:46:17 AM8/1/08
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On Aug 1, 6:53 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 6:43 am, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find...@ugs.nojunk.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "P. Edward Murray" <P.EdwardMur...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e693af73-df38-44f2...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > And exactly what did Brad discover? Hmmmm?
>
> > Who cares. Any discovery of his is just a figment of his imagination. Most
> > sensible readers here have him in their killfile, since his drivel simply
> > isn't worth the time spent reading it.
>
> > Jeff
> > --
> > A clever person solves a problem.
> > A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein
>
> And yet another mainstream DARPA damage control reply, via the brown
> nose of Jeff Findley.
>
> What's so unusually dark and scary about Venus?
>
> Technically the planet Venus is not too geothermally hot unless you
> plan upon landing yourself into an active lava/mud pit, or directly on
> top of any number of those geothermally pumped CO2 and S8 gas/vapor
> vents.
>
> The rigid composite airship method eliminates any requirement of touching

> down. But then that has always been known. The required technologies
> have also been well enough known, that would have permitted such a
> substantial mission as of a decade ago.
>
> Setting up a cool POOF City at Venus L2 has also been technically
> doable, as of more than a decade ago.
>
> - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Once again, the mainstream status quo of DARPA brown-nosed minions
tries to continually snooker and dumbfounded the rest of us village
idiots.

Scott Hedrick

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Jul 30, 2008, 2:09:41 PM7/30/08
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"Pat Flannery" <fla...@daktel.com> wrote in message
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Sure- clearly, he was a party animal, bringing temporary joy to some. Plus,
he helped stimulate the economy by forcing his assassins to purchase the
means to kill him multiple times.

Pat Flannery

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Aug 3, 2008, 5:38:35 AM8/3/08
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Scott Hedrick wrote:
> "Pat Flannery" <fla...@daktel.com> wrote in message
> news:76KdnWfTs6s2vg3V...@posted.northdakotatelephone...
>
>> Scott Hedrick wrote:
>>
>>> What will separate Brad from other historical bad examples, like
>>> Rasputin, Benedict Arnold and Al Gore, is that the others, at one time,
>>> added value to the societies they lived in.
>>>
>> Rasputin was a positive force at one time?
>>
>
> Sure- clearly, he was a party animal, bringing temporary joy to some.
>

Well, reading Brad's stuff can be quite a hoot also.
And he may well stimulate Kleenex industry as people laugh so hard they
start crying. :-D

Pat

BradGuth

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Aug 3, 2008, 7:51:49 AM8/3/08
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On Aug 3, 2:38 am, Pat Flannery <flan...@daktel.com> wrote:
> Scott Hedrick wrote:
> > "Pat Flannery" <flan...@daktel.com> wrote in message

“We're ignorant of life in the universe. We only have one planet that
serves as an example and in science it's not good to derive
information from a sample size of one.” / David Grinspoon

or is that simply too much for the likes of your mindset to
comprehend?

What's so hoot worthy about your kind artificially creating and
sustaining war?

What's so hoot worthy about our having been ignoring other intelligent
life on Venus?

What's so hoot worthy of our mainstream continually ignoring the
Sirius star/solar system?

What's so hoot worthy about the notion of our physically dark Selene/
moon having been tidal flexing Earth and subsequently global warming
us ever since the very last ice-age this planet w/moon is ever going
to see?

What's so hoot worthy of honest efforts that directly benefit the
lower 99.9% of humanity, and that of our best physics and science
efforts at salvaging our frail environment?

Other than perpetual plagiarism and parroting, what are the best of
Pat Flannery contributions or worthiness to physics and science?
(figured anything out as of lately?)

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Roddy Duda

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GOOFISM is on the rise.


BradGuth

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Aug 16, 2008, 7:46:40 PM8/16/08
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On Aug 3, 10:55 am, "Roddy Duda" <d...@nospam.net> wrote:
> GOOFISM is on the rise.

Was that one out of your DARPA Old Testament Qur'an?

eyeball

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Aug 16, 2008, 10:57:54 PM8/16/08
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No, he's just pretending to believe that.

BradGuth

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Pretend-Atheists do tend to spoof and pretend about a great many
things.

~ BG

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