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Poe

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Jan 13, 2002, 10:11:06 PM1/13/02
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What is the polarity of Earths magnetic field and is it a constant?. Is
it possible to create a device that would counteract this magnetic
field. i.e. a levitation device.

Thanks


poe

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Lee Pugh

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Jan 14, 2002, 12:57:24 AM1/14/02
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The magnetic polarity of the earths geomagnetic field is that the north
seeking pole of a compas points to the north pole of the earth.
The magnetic field of the earth is supported entirely by the earths dynamic
electrical field which supports both the magnetic field and earth
gravitation and the dynamic electrical field is westbound as a tangent to
the earth. See http://www.terraworld.net/leepugh/theory.txt.
Yes it is fairly easy to accomplish levitation in many forms. two donut
magnets on a stick placed there to oppose for example. hollow spkr magnets
work great. Regards, Lee Pugh
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Etherman

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"Poe" <p...@shymail.com> wrote in message
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> What is the polarity of Earths magnetic field and is it a constant?.

The magnetic south is located at the North Pole. Every so often the
field switches. IIRC the last flip was 100,000 years ago. The
intensity of the field isn't constant either.

> Is it possible to create a device that would counteract this
magnetic
> field. i.e. a levitation device.

Yes, you're sitting on one.


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Bonobo

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Jan 17, 2002, 6:34:20 PM1/17/02
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It is possible to counteract the earth's magnetic field using an
appropriate magnetic structure. A Helmholtz coil does this and is used
where one wants to get rid of the earth's magnetc field in a small area.
Search Helmholtz. The earth's magnetic field has nothing to do with gravity
so counteracting the mag field won't levitate things. Of course, any strong
magnet can pick up iron objects thus countering gravity in a simplistic
sort of way. So can a piece of rope.
Bonobo

EL

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Jan 17, 2002, 10:33:09 PM1/17/02
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[EL]
Interestingly, I find your post scientific.
I agree that the usefulness of a rope and a pulley can demonstrate
"anti gravitational" activities. :-)
Keep up that spirit. :-)

EL


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Poe

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Jan 18, 2002, 10:53:52 AM1/18/02
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Would the same apply for a piece of string?

Paul Mays

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Jan 18, 2002, 1:14:23 PM1/18/02
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Yes if your very very skinny....

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Jan 19, 2002, 7:48:42 AM1/19/02
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Hi Poe Magnetisim can be blocked,its magnetic field does not go through
every thing. You would have to take a compass to the North Pole and
when its needle points straight down(its south end) than cover that
magnetic pole with the insulating material. You know you did the job
right if the needle does not point down any more (over a large area)
Please don't do this for lots of animals have built in compasses in
their brains. Magnetic fields are made of photons and photons can be
blocked. Gravity fields are made of gravitons and they can't be
blocked. If gravitons could be blocked there would be no universe.
Best regards Herb

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Jan 26, 2002, 7:31:45 AM1/26/02
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It is interesting that the only difference an electric current than a
magnetic field is motion. Best regards to all Herb

antiaging

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Feb 10, 2002, 2:03:20 AM2/10/02
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Poe <p...@shymail.com> wrote in message news:<3C424C4A...@shymail.com>...
> What is the polarity of Earths magnetic field and is it a constant?. Is
> it possible to create a device that would counteract this magnetic
> field. i.e. a levitation device.
>
> Thanks

Yes. There seems to be a way of changing stones into South magnetic
monopoles and the Earth's magnetic field, in the Northern hemisphere,
will push up on them and make them float. A man named Ed Leedskalnin
may have done just this. Read the following:
The Real Method of Pyramid Constrution

There was a man in the 1920s named Edward Leedskalnin, and he built a
small castle made of 3 million pounds of coral rock. Some of the coral
stones that he built it with weigh 30 tons. The tools that he had were
only simple pulleys and winches and chains. Scientists do not know how
he did it. The equipment he had was not strong enough to lift the
great stones. He said that he knew the secret of how the Egyptian
pyramids were built. He did his own experiments on magnetism and
developed his own theories. People spying on him with binoculars swore
that they saw one of the great stones move by itself. It seems like he
knew some secret of using magnetic force to make the stones weigh
less. You can read about him and what he did at
http://www.coralcastle.com
I believe that I know how Mr. Leedskalnin, {the creator of Coral
Castle}, and the ancient pyramid builders levitated the great stones.
I made a careful study of Edward Leedskalnin's books about his
experiments with electricity and magnetism and found a clue to how he
used electricity to levitate the heavy coral stones. I tried to
reproduce this in my backyard and I made a 15 Lb. cement brick to
weigh 13 Lbs.. I did this twice; I only tried it twice. Essentially,
Leedskalnin found a way to make the stones into a South magnetic
monopole, using electricity, and the Earth's magnetic field would then
push up on them making them lighter. It only works at night when there
is no interference from sunlight. I would like to point out to you
that many small ceramic jars containing metal were found near the
pyramids and these jars would become electric batteries if a corrosive
liquid, such as vinegar or other acids, were put into them. Eric Von
Daniken believes that these had to be used as electric batteries. They
coud be connected together in series to produce either very large
voltage or very large amperage, depending on how you connect them. I
believe the pyramid builders were using electricity to levitate the
stones just like Leedskalnin did.
Edward Leedskalnin had a totally different way of looking at
electricity which he derived by doing his own careful experiments with
magnets and electricity. I have a BS degree in physics, and I am
inclined to believe that his way of looking at electricity is more
accurate than accepted scientific theories. I will summarize it for
you: He published three books on his magnetic theory:- Magnetic
Current, Magnetic Base and Cosmic Force. Scientists and others have
read these books since the 1920s and no one understood them. If you
want to buy these books and read about him and what he did, visit this
website: http://www.coralcastle.com You can buy these books for about
$11.20.
I'll summarize what he found out by experimenting with magnets. Just
like physics considers an electron or proton to be the smallest unit
of electric charge, there is a smallest unit of magnetism which he
calls north and south pole individual magnets. They are free to flow
in metals, in the air and in other things. The iron shavings around a
bar magnet trace their path. From the North end of a magnet, there are
many north pole magnets flowing out and going around the outside of
the magnet and coming into the south pole of the magnet and then
running in the metal and returning to the North pole. From the South
pole of the magnet, there are many south pole magnets flowing out and
going around the outside of the magnet and going into the North pole
and flowing through the metal and returing to the South pole. Some
flow straight out from the poles and don't return, but are replaced by
others from the air.
Experimenting with small magnets hung over a wire carring a current he
concludes this: Electricity is really north pole magnets flowing out
from the + terminal of a battery and flowing through the wire with a
right hand twist and there is an opposite flow of south pole magnets
coming out of the - terminal of a battery and flowing in the wire with
a right hand twist. Modern electronics developed with the theoretical
notion of a positive current flowing through a wire, but this is only
a way of thinking about electricity to describe and quantify its
effects. There is no real positive current flowing through the wire,
because protons will not flow through a wire like electricity. Free
electrons in the wire only have a slow drift speed, so negative charge
cannot flow through a wire like electricity either. This idea of
opposing north and south pole magnetic units flowing through a wire
might be what is really happening in an electric current. He
experimentally shows that this can explain the magnetic effects that
electricity produces by its actions on nearby magnets. Too many of
these magnetic units being made to flow through a place that has high
resistance produces heat, so it can also explain the heat effects of
electricity.
I just rubbed a plastic comb on a spread to get an electrostatic
charge and I picked up two pieces of small paper, one hanging from the
other. I put a magnet near the bottom piece and it was attracted to
the magnet like it was really a magnetic force and not an
electrostatic force like physics tries to say. Maybe electrical forces
could better be explained by small units of north and south pole
magnets and not electric charge.
Leedskalnin took two soft iron welding rods and connected one to the
positive terminal of a battery and the other to the negative terminal
of the battery. He touched them together and held them together till
they got hot. He sepearated them from each other while still connected
to the battery and investigated them with magnets. The iron connected
to the negative terminal was a completely south monopole magnet, and
the iron connected to the positive terminal was a completely north
monopole magnet. This experiment helped him to develope his theory on
electric current.


In his writings he does make some statements about other things like
gravity and moon orbit and tries to explain this by magnetic force.
These statements go beyond his experiments and seem to be just false
opinions. He only had a 4th grade education, but he studied what
science said about electrons and current, and he thought science was
wrong about it because his own experiments showed something else.
Mineral, Vegetable and Animal Life, Copyright October 1945 By Edward
Leedskalnin Quote:
"The North pole magnets come out of the battery's positive terminal
and South pole magnets come out of car battery's negative terminal. To
be sure it is so, you get two pieces of soft steel welding rod four
inches long, put them in clips and connect them with the car battery.
Put those two loose rod ends together until the rod gets hot. Now test
each of those rod ends you were putting together with a small
needle-like horizontally hanging magnet. Then you will see the one
which is connected with positive terminal is North pole magnet, and
the one which is connected with negative terminal is South pole magnet
(Like poles repulses, and unlike poles attract). You can change the
rod peices, but every time the one is connected with positive terminal
will be North pole magnet, and the one connected with negative
terminal will be South pole magnet". Therefore, to change a large
stone into a South Pole magnet, it would need to be connected to the
negative terminal. The levitation must be done at night, with no full
moon, preferably with no moonlight. Leedskalnin said that the magnetic
units travel in light and moonlight or sunlight can mess up the
experiment. Try soaking the stones with water for conductivity.
Leedskalnin believed that electostatic force was really a magnetic
force. He would describe an electrostatically charged piece of rubber
this way: IN rubber the north and south pole magnetic units are not
flowing like they are in a bar iron magnet, (he said the magnetic
units flowing in an iron magnet are excess magnetic units that were
added to the metal when it was magnetized) but in rubber they are
stationary and they are the north and south pole magnetic forces that
hold the rubber molecules together. This causes many small north and
south magnetic
poles on the same side of the rubber, and this is what causes the
electrostatic charge. He proves this to be a magnetic force by
attracting iron filings to an electrostatically charged rubber, and
bringing a metal bar magnet near. When the bar magnet's poles are
reversed by turning it to the other end, some of the iron filings jump
off of the rubber. He believed the first approach of the bar magnet
with its stronger field, reversed the magnetic fields of some of the
iron filings and when the magnet was turned around, the magnetic
fields repelled each other. He believed it was magnetic and not
electrostatic. He also detected South pole magnetic units flowing
upward and North
pole magnetic units flowing downward in the northern hemisphere, by
hanging a long magnet in the middle and the south pole end would
always hang up. To make it level, the south pole end needed to be
longer.
In his writings he does make some statements about other things like
gravity and moon orbit and tries to explain this by magnetic force.
These statements go beyond his experiments and seem to be just false
opinions.
Find a scientist or engineer that is willing to experiment on this and
try to levitate huge stones. I believe that I have given you enough
clues in this writing to show you how it was done.
I once read a quote from an ancient text about the building of the
pyramids, it went something like this.
True it was that the priests of On levitated the great stones and they
flew through the air the distance of a bowshot.
I read this quote in the writings of Desmond Leslie, a researcher of
ancient texts.


Go get a dictionary and look up electricity. Definition: An
imponderable force of nature that is known by its effects, heat,
magnetic and chemical effects. Ever since Ben Franklin discovered
electricity, modern science has never described what it is made of.
All of our circuitry theory is based on the idea that electricity is
electrical impulses flowing in a wire, and yet protons do not flow
through wire and electrons drift so slowly in a wire (at the speed of
heat conduction) that electricity cannot be made of either positive or
negative charge flowing in a wire. Leedskalnin's experiments with
magnets show what electricity is really made of, North and South
magnetic units flowing in a wire. All of modern science developed
circuitry, and motors and computers based on the effects that
electricity produced and yet science never did adequately describe
what electricity is really made of. Because Leedskalnin found out what
electricity is really made of, he could see that he could do something
else with it. He levitated very heavy stones weighing many tons with
it.
This should be done at night, with no moonlight.
I connected a cement block (15Lbs) to the negative pole of battery
charger and put it on a scale. The positive pole was connected to a
metal pole stuck in cement. I soaked the cement ground with water, and
the cement block with water. Turned on the battery charger. car
battery charger When I picked up the cement block from the scale,
turned off battery charger, and then put it back on the scale, it
weighed 13 lbs. It lost two pounds. I did this twice. Just as the rods
connected to leadskalnins battery became north and south monopoles
when he broke the connection between them, I believe that when I
picked the block up off the scale, it became a magnetic south
monopole. I had soaked the ground with water so the scale was
effectively the connecting point between the plus and minus poles of
the battery; picking it up broke the connection. Being a South
magnetic monopole, the Earth's magnetic field pushed up on it and it
lost 2 lbs. I never tried this again.

antiaging

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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<11840-3C...@storefull-132.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

> It is interesting that the only difference an electric current than a
> magnetic field is motion. Best regards to all Herb

CORAL CASTLE AND THE THEORIES OF ITS BUILDER

MAGNETIC CURRENT


There was a man in the 1920s named Edward Leedskalnin, and he built a
small castle made of 3 million pounds of coral rock. Some of the coral
stones that he built it with weigh 30 tons. The tools that he had were
only simple pulleys and winches and chains. Scientists do not know how
he did it. The equipment he had was not strong enough to lift the
great stones. He said that he knew the secret of how the Egyptian
pyramids were built. He did his own experiments on magnetism and
developed his own theories. People spying on him with binoculars swore
that they saw one of the great stones move by itself. It seems like he
knew some secret of using magnetic force to make the stones weigh

less. He published three books on his magnetic theory:- Magnetic


Current, Magnetic Base and Cosmic Force. Scientists and others have
read these books since the 1920s and no one understood them. If you
want to buy these books and read about him and what he did, visit this
website: http://www.coralcastle.com You can buy these books for about
$11.20.

Maybe you can understand his use of magnetic force to levitate great
stones. I just started reading his theories and they are all backed up
with experiments. It looks like his way of viewing electricity and
magnetism might be more accurate than what modern physics teaches.

Leedskalnin believed that electostatic force was really a
magnetic force. He would describe an electrostatically charged piece
of rubber this way: IN rubber the north and south pole magnetic units
are not flowing like they are in a bar iron magnet, (he said the
magnetic units flowing in an iron magnet are excess magnetic units
that were added to the metal when it was magnetized) but in rubber
they are stationary and they are the north and south pole magnetic
forces that hold the rubber molecules together. This causes many small
north and south magnetic poles on the same side of the rubber, and
this is what causes the electrostatic charge. He proves this to be a
magnetic force by
attracting iron filings to an electrostatically charged rubber, and
bringing a metal bar magnet near. When the bar magnet's poles are
reversed by turning it to the other end, some of the iron filings jump
off of the rubber. He believed the first approach of the bar magnet
with its stronger field, reversed the magnetic fields of some of the
iron filings and when the magnet was turned around, the magnetic
fields repelled each other. He believed it was magnetic and not
electrostatic. He also detected South pole magnetic units flowing
upward and North pole magnetic units flowing downward in the northern
hemisphere, by hanging a long magnet in the middle and the south pole

end would always hang down. To make it level, the south pole end


needed to be longer.
In his writings he does make some statements about other things like
gravity and moon orbit and tries to explain this by magnetic force.
These statements go beyond his experiments and seem to be just false

opinions. He only had a 4th grade education, but he studied what
science said about electrons and current, and he thought science was
wrong about it because his own experiments showed something else.
Mineral, Vegetable and Animal Life, Copyright October 1945 By
Edward Leedskalnin Quote:
"The North pole magnets come out of the battery's positive terminal
and South pole magnets come out of car battery's negative terminal. To
be sure it is so, you get two pieces of soft steel welding rod four
inches long, put them in clips and connect them with the car battery.
Put those two loose rod ends together until the rod gets hot. Now test
each of those rod ends you were putting together with a small
needle-like horizontally hanging magnet. Then you will see the one
which is connected with positive terminal is North pole magnet, and
the one which is connected with negative terminal is South pole magnet
(Like poles repulses, and unlike poles attract). You can change the
rod peices, but every time the one is connected with positive terminal
will be North pole magnet, and the one connected with negative
terminal will be South pole magnet".

be just false opinions. He only had a 4th grade education, but he

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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I think it was a very olden day Greek that said "Give me a long enough
lever,and I'll move the earth. The great stones of the pyramids were
turned into axel's and had a wide wheel on each end.Once moving one man
could keep it rolling as long as the friction that it rolled on was
greatly reduced. Making the stone into a wheel the device was given the
name "cradle" and is carved in stone near the great pyramid. Best
regards Herb

antiaging

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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<24866-3C6...@storefull-137.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Get real. I have looked at the theories on TV of how the stones were
moved and lifted and none of the so-called experts said anything like
this. There was nothing said by anyone about places on the stones
where wheels were fitted. The stones are cut so perfectly that they
fit into place with a precision that cannot be matched to day for any
stones of that size. Leedskalnin is the only one that came close to
that, in modern times, and he was one man working alone.
Even if you could tell how they were transported, there are engineers
that will tell you today that they could not be lifted and put into
place with our modern machinery to that degree of accuracy. Some of
those stones weight like 50 tons, 100 tons; you are not going to fit
any wide wheels on them and roll over sandy desert. The experts that I
saw on TV said that the theories of how the stones were moved and
lifted and fitted into place are not enough to account for the
pyramids. In the ammount of time that they were supposed to have been
built, one huge stone would haved needed to be set in place, with
great accuracy, about every few minutes. There are over 1 million huge
heavy stones in the great pyramid at Giza. The experts are saying that
our modern machinery could not build the pyramids today, the way that
they were built. A line going from the bottom of one of the corners
running to the top is so straight, that no engineer today would even
try to duplicate that with a stone structure, one expert said.

David Thomas

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Antiaging wrote:

>Get real. I have looked at the theories on TV of how the stones were
>moved and lifted and none of the so-called experts said anything like
>this. There was nothing said by anyone

... blah blah blah...

>The experts are saying that
>our modern machinery could not build the pyramids today, the way that
>they were built. A line going from the bottom of one of the corners
>running to the top is so straight, that no engineer today would even
>try to duplicate that with a stone structure, one expert said.

I don't know how much expert-referencing you do, but I can speak on
your Television viewing.
I watched a special on... I believe it was The Learning Channel,
though it was possibly some other type of 'Televised Knowledge Channel'
...anyhow, on the great pyrimids. A rather small group of people (less than
100) used simple machines hand-built of rope and wood and, over the course of
five months, constructed a pyrimid of about 1/4 the size of the largest at
Giza. That is, less than a hundred used simple machines to build a large
pyrimid in little under half a year. Imagine what Pharoah could make thousands
of slaves do in forty years.
I've read your bits about this Leedskalnin character and your weird
theories, and I think you're about the most full of shit person I've ever read.
(Aside, of course, from our resident Quack, (notso)Smart1234.) I find your
'expert' blabs to be annoying and stupid. The idea that the pyrimids were
built by UFOs, or using some sort of advanced technology, or even by any other
method than cleverness--as the Egyptians were quite clever--and bloodthirsty
enslavement--as the Egyptians, if they were anything more than clever, were
bloodthirsty--is sheer lunacy.

>The stones are cut so perfectly that they
>fit into place with a precision that cannot be matched to day for any
>stones of that size.

And this is about the peak of your ignorance.


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>From: vael...@aol.comUspamao (David Thomas)

>The idea that the pyrimids were
>built by UFOs, or using some sort of advanced technology, or even by any
>other
>method than cleverness--as the Egyptians were quite clever--and bloodthirsty
>enslavement--as the Egyptians, if they were anything more than clever, were
>bloodthirsty--is sheer lunacy.

UFO's ..
yes,
They would not build Pyramids. (would be a total waste of time and energy)

Egyptians being bloodthirsty?
Not all of them,
and It was not slavery that built precision.
It was guidance, and care, and food, and water.

Yup,
levers and fulcrums rule!
The Egyptians knew about levers and fulcrums...
and also had a few thoughts of thier own about UFO's but not about
them building the pyramids.
<G>

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Spaceman
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JeffMo

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anti...@email-lotto.com (antiaging) wrote:

>herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<24866-3C6...@storefull-137.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
>> I think it was a very olden day Greek that said "Give me a long enough
>> lever,and I'll move the earth. The great stones of the pyramids were
>> turned into axel's and had a wide wheel on each end.Once moving one man
>> could keep it rolling as long as the friction that it rolled on was
>> greatly reduced. Making the stone into a wheel the device was given the
>> name "cradle" and is carved in stone near the great pyramid. Best
>> regards Herb
>
>Get real. I have looked at the theories on TV of how the stones were
>moved and lifted and none of the so-called experts said anything like
>this.

Well, if they didn't say it on TV, that settles it.

JeffMo

"You can't have freedom OF religion, unless you also have freedom FROM the next guy's religion." -- JeffMo

antiaging

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vael...@aol.comUspamao (David Thomas) wrote in message news:<20020210234750...@mb-fs.aol.com>...

> Antiaging wrote:
>
> >Get real. I have looked at the theories on TV of how the stones were
> >moved and lifted and none of the so-called experts said anything like
> >this. There was nothing said by anyone
>
> ... blah blah blah...
>
> >The experts are saying that
> >our modern machinery could not build the pyramids today, the way that
> >they were built. A line going from the bottom of one of the corners
> >running to the top is so straight, that no engineer today would even
> >try to duplicate that with a stone structure, one expert said.
>
> I don't know how much expert-referencing you do, but I can speak on
> your Television viewing.
> I watched a special on... I believe it was The Learning Channel,
> though it was possibly some other type of 'Televised Knowledge Channel'
> ...anyhow, on the great pyrimids. A rather small group of people (less than
> 100) used simple machines hand-built of rope and wood and, over the course of
> five months, constructed a pyrimid of about 1/4 the size of the largest at
> Giza. That is, less than a hundred used simple machines to build a large
> pyrimid in little under half a year. Imagine what Pharoah could make thousands

I believe that I saw that too. Did you note that the building stones
that they used were much smaller and weighed much less than the stones
that the great pyramid was made of? It is not a matter of putting
smaller less heavy stones together. Today's methods could work with
the smaller stones. No one has been able to do it with stones of the
size and weight that the actual great pyramid was constructed with. 50
tons, 100 tons, 150 tons. Those people you were talking about could
just barely handle 15 ton stones, if that much.

> of slaves do in forty years.
> I've read your bits about this Leedskalnin character and your weird
> theories, and I think you're about the most full of shit person I've ever read.

There is about 3 million pounds of coral rock sitting there in Florida
and the best scientific minds from the 1920s till now have not been
able to determine how he did it. He moved a 30 ton stone with
equipment that could barely handle 10 tons. Look at in search of on
the history channel. They have a story about Leedskalnin. There are
witnesses that signe affidavits stating that they saw large stones
foating in the air like helium balloons when they spied on him while
he was working. That is why they put the story on In Search Of, it is
a real mystery. Go to http://www.coralcastle.com and read for yourself
how the experts and scientists cannot explain how he did it.

> (Aside, of course, from our resident Quack, (notso)Smart1234.) I find your
> 'expert' blabs to be annoying and stupid. The idea that the pyrimids were
> built by UFOs, or using some sort of advanced technology, or even by any other
> method than cleverness--as the Egyptians were quite clever--and bloodthirsty
> enslavement--as the Egyptians, if they were anything more than clever, were
> bloodthirsty--is sheer lunacy.

There is a place in Bolivia where large stones were used to build
buildings high up on the cliffs in the Andes Mountains. The quarries
for the huge heavy stones is down in the valley. No one can explain
how the stones were lifted up the cliff to build the buildings. A
stone gate weighs 400 tons. The idea of a human labor force cannot be
true because the air is so thin at that height that heavy labor cannot
be done and also food crops cannot be grown to feed a labor force at
that height; there is not enough oxygen for the crops It is considered
by experts to be definite evidence that the ancient world had a
superior technology for heavy stone building. Modern cranes and
machinery could not bring those stones up the steep cliffs today.

>
> >The stones are cut so perfectly that they
> >fit into place with a precision that cannot be matched to day for any
> >stones of that size.
>
> And this is about the peak of your ignorance.

A credit card or razor blade cannot be passed through the cracks where
the stones meet. This is the peak of your ignorance. Research the
pyramids before you speak on them. Modern stone masons cannot set
stones to within 1 100th of an inch when they weigh as much as 100
tons. The reason you keep seeing specials on the pyramids is because
they are still a mystery today.

On In Search Of a crain was used to try to duplicate what Leedskalnin
did and the crane operator said that he could not do it with his heavy
crain, which almost tipped over trying to lift even a small coral
stone, smaller than the 30 ton stone that Leedskalnin handled.

Skeptics like you have spoken against every scientific advancement,
until they were proved wrong and the advancement happened anyway.
They laughed at Pasteur. People like you were speaking against the
automobile when it was first invented.
...blah blah blah ...

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 11, 2002, 2:32:02 PM2/11/02
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Hi Jeffmo Your funny TV is not the big educator. I would rather he
said the books he read had a different idea than the "cradle"
Well Jeffmo Staying with the magnetic and the electric fields. My
question is when both field simultaneously go to zero where does the
energy go? I think I read the both fields have equal energy.Each sharing
half the energy(yes) Best regards Herb

antiaging

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jef...@dipstick.cfw.com (JeffMo) wrote in message news:<3c67fc23....@64.154.60.165>...

> anti...@email-lotto.com (antiaging) wrote:
>
> >herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<24866-3C6...@storefull-137.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> >> I think it was a very olden day Greek that said "Give me a long enough
> >> lever,and I'll move the earth. The great stones of the pyramids were
> >> turned into axel's and had a wide wheel on each end.Once moving one man
> >> could keep it rolling as long as the friction that it rolled on was
> >> greatly reduced. Making the stone into a wheel the device was given the
> >> name "cradle" and is carved in stone near the great pyramid. Best
> >> regards Herb
> >
> >Get real. I have looked at the theories on TV of how the stones were
> >moved and lifted and none of the so-called experts said anything like
> >this.
>
> Well, if they didn't say it on TV, that settles it.

The people that talk on TV are the experts that wrote the books about
it.
The standard ideas about thousands of men moving the heavy pyramid
stones accross Egypt to the pyramid site have been disproved by
several scientists and engineers. The only trees they had were date
palms, a food tree, and they would not have cut down the millions of
date palms needed to make the logs to roll the big stones on. They
needed those trees for food. Also the logs would have been crushed
into wood pulp after only a short distance. The ramp theory that the
stones were rolled on logs up a ramp to be placed on the pyramid has
been discounted. It would have taken longer and used up more material
than the pyramid itself just to build the ramp. There is no evidence
of the millions of cubic yards of ramp material around the pyramid
that would have been needed. A corner line on the great pyramid where
the sides meet is straiter and about 5 times more accurate, going from
the base to the top, than modern engineers can make today even with
the best machines we have. Professional building engineers have stated
that even if they had the heavy stones at the building site, they
still could not place them accurately enough to build the pyramids the
way that they were built. In order to build the pyramid in 30 years it
would have taken something like laying one 100 ton stone every minute
and a 1/2, 24 hours per day around the clock, and they would have to
be laid together with an accuracy that modern engineers can't do
today. A razor blade can't pass between the stones they fit so well.
If the stones were made much lighter using the Earth's magnetic field
to hold them up, then it would be much easier to shape and fit the
stones accurately together.

JeffMo

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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

>Hi Jeffmo Your funny TV is not the big educator. I would rather he
>said the books he read had a different idea than the "cradle"

I was being sarcastic. I hope you caught that.

>Well Jeffmo Staying with the magnetic and the electric fields. My
>question is when both field simultaneously go to zero where does the
>energy go? I think I read the both fields have equal energy.Each sharing
>half the energy(yes) Best regards Herb

Please give more details about the experiment you have in mind.

JeffMo

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anti...@email-lotto.com (antiaging) wrote:

>jef...@dipstick.cfw.com (JeffMo) wrote in message news:<3c67fc23....@64.154.60.165>...
>> anti...@email-lotto.com (antiaging) wrote:
>>
>> >herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<24866-3C6...@storefull-137.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
>> >> I think it was a very olden day Greek that said "Give me a long enough
>> >> lever,and I'll move the earth. The great stones of the pyramids were
>> >> turned into axel's and had a wide wheel on each end.Once moving one man
>> >> could keep it rolling as long as the friction that it rolled on was
>> >> greatly reduced. Making the stone into a wheel the device was given the
>> >> name "cradle" and is carved in stone near the great pyramid. Best
>> >> regards Herb
>> >
>> >Get real. I have looked at the theories on TV of how the stones were
>> >moved and lifted and none of the so-called experts said anything like
>> >this.
>>
>> Well, if they didn't say it on TV, that settles it.
>
>The people that talk on TV are the experts that wrote the books about
>it.

Your citations of references are underwhelming.

<snip many bold assertions>

David Thomas

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Feb 12, 2002, 5:55:22 PM2/12/02
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>I believe that I saw that too. Did you note that the building stones
>that they used were much smaller and weighed much less than the stones
>that the great pyramid was made of? It is not a matter of putting
>smaller less heavy stones together. Today's methods could work with
>the smaller stones. No one has been able to do it with stones of the
>size and weight that the actual great pyramid was constructed with. 50
>tons, 100 tons, 150 tons. Those people you were talking about could
>just barely handle 15 ton stones, if that much.

::shrug::

If I felt any better (I have the flu), I might bother arguing with you,
researching, et cetera...

>There is about 3 million pounds of coral rock sitting there in Florida
>and the best scientific minds from the 1920s till now have not been
>able to determine how he did it. He moved a 30 ton stone with
>equipment that could barely handle 10 tons. Look at in search of on
>the history channel. They have a story about Leedskalnin. There are
>witnesses that signe affidavits stating that they saw large stones
>foating in the air like helium balloons when they spied on him while
>he was working. That is why they put the story on In Search Of, it is
>a real mystery. Go to http://www.coralcastle.com and read for yourself
>how the experts and scientists cannot explain how he did it.

Scientists and 'experts' are not always as expert as they might sound, and I
have a feeling that there are clever people who could explain these sorts of
things, given full the information. Also, the channels of which I afore spoke,
and which you reference now, are not exactly the most scientific of sources.
In reality, they'll air just about anything, thus their obnoxious crop-circle
specials. Anyone with half a brain, or less, as I have now, will recognize
such things as the malodorous hoaxes that they are.

>There is a place in Bolivia where large stones were used to build
>buildings high up on the cliffs in the Andes Mountains. The quarries
>for the huge heavy stones is down in the valley. No one can explain
>how the stones were lifted up the cliff to build the buildings. A
>stone gate weighs 400 tons. The idea of a human labor force cannot be
>true because the air is so thin at that height that heavy labor cannot
>be done and also food crops cannot be grown to feed a labor force at
>that height; there is not enough oxygen for the crops It is considered
>by experts to be definite evidence that the ancient world had a
>superior technology for heavy stone building. Modern cranes and
>machinery could not bring those stones up the steep cliffs today.

Just because noone can figure it out, or noone can explain it, does not mean
that it can't be done with the means at hand. It just means that noone has
figured it out. Also, I wonder, if the ancient world possessed the
super-modern technology of which you speak, then why is there no sign of it?

>A credit card or razor blade cannot be passed through the cracks where
>the stones meet.

Have you ever visited the pyrimids?
They're so worn out.
Like me, buggering with your stupidity.

>Research the
>pyramids before you speak on them.

I don't need to research them; I've seen them, touched them.

>The reason you keep seeing specials on the pyramids is because
>they are still a mystery today.

Or because they get good ratings.

>Skeptics like you have spoken against every scientific advancement,
>until they were proved wrong and the advancement happened anyway.
>They laughed at Pasteur. People like you were speaking against the
>automobile when it was first invented.

Whatever. You're pissing into the wind. You don't even know me. I don't
laugh at scientific proof, I laugh at perverse idiocy passed on without
evidence and on flaky misconception.

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 13, 2002, 8:05:25 AM2/13/02
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Hi JeffMo Those stones that we so closely fitted that you could not put
a razor blade between them could only be done one way. No
tools were needed. The stones themselves did the job. If you and I sat
facing each other and had two stones in from of us one on top of the
other,we twist the top stone one way and then the other.The friction
would grind the stones,and the top stone"s weight would help us. Both
stones would in a days time would be rubbed together and have a perfect
fit. Who said it was amazing? When man uses his brain,he can find a
way. Best regards Herb PS the first few hours four men one on each
corner as the stones got smoother rubbing them together got easier for
two reasons Smoothness and the powder that formed between.

JeffMo

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Feb 13, 2002, 2:59:00 PM2/13/02
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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Should there be evidence of this process if we were able to
disassemble the pyramids, even today?

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 14, 2002, 8:57:37 AM2/14/02
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Hi JeffMo The grinding of stones this way is my own idea,but it is the
only way it could be done. I done think the stones of the pyramid
were fitted that smoothly.The pyramid when finished was covered with a
smooth cement. It is said it shined in the sun. It was the indians in
south America that used smaller stones,and ground them together for a
perfect fit. Well JeffMo there is even a theory that the stones of the
great pyramid were made on the spot. Like the way we make cement blocks.
The reason I like the "cradle" is the Egyptian made the best wheels. In
king Tut's tome you see the wheel everywhere. Best regards Herb

Johnn...@webtv.net

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Feb 14, 2002, 11:31:48 PM2/14/02
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Hi Herb... Your "grinding the stones together" to create a tight fit
between the stones is interesting ... I'm just wondering if that sort of
reasoning could be applied at places like Tiahuanaco or Cuzco where the
boulders are fitted tightly together yet many have these odd overlaps
and beveled inserts (try a google image search of cuzco to see what I
mean)

What has always puzzled me about the Great Pyramid was the reasoning
behind creating the grand gallery. ......Jon

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 15, 2002, 6:00:55 AM2/15/02
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Hi Jon I know what you mean,for some were fitted that had a "L" shape.
Still it could be done by rubbing back and forth,rather than twisting
them corner to corner.(hope you can visualize it) These people must
have gotten better at it,and took pride in their work. It was hard
work,but at the end of the day they must have looked at what they had
done and patted each other on the back. I built a very small sail
boat,and it came out good.I have fun sailing in it,and have it so I can
see and admire it. When we build something from scratch
with our hands we appreciate it so much more than buying it. I have
shown this boat on the web hope you saw it. Best regards Herb

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 19, 2002, 3:41:30 PM2/19/02
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well I got e-mail that tells me my way of grinding the rocks together
has always been a mystery.Did I solve the mystery? I have know idea,but
it makes sense to me,Best to remember the heavy stone were chipped out
before they were placed on on top of the other to be rubbed together It
is always friction. Thanks again for the e-mail Herb

Johnn...@webtv.net

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Feb 21, 2002, 4:32:33 PM2/21/02
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Hello Herb... I always look for the scientific explanation of fitting
the pyramid stones together. (As opposed to some mystical levitation)
... But Jesus, that chunk of granite by the King's chamber is 10 feet
long, 8 feet high, and 4 feet wide... How do you move that sucker back
and forth? Even with a mud slurry under it... And what about the side
edges? ...Of that or any of the pyramid's blocks?

I have a JD backhoe, and to even move a rock 3' round is pushing it's
abilities to the limit.. I would think it would be much easier to
perhaps make a mud template of where the stone would be positioned, then
grind the rock accordingly. .....Jon

EL

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Feb 21, 2002, 9:42:20 PM2/21/02
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Johnn...@webtv.net wrote in message news:<9456-3C7...@storefull-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
[EL]
You are correct.
The ancient Egyptian used the buoyancy of the 'sea', then lifting
stones became a piece of cake. <g>

EL

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 22, 2002, 8:43:04 AM2/22/02
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Hi Jon I never seen the great Pyramid.I did not think their huge stones
were fitted so close that a razor could not be slid between them. I
thought that tight fitting was only done by indians of So. America,and
their stones were much smaller. I don't even know what stones were
used.That could make a big difference. Jon if the stone is to
be polished very smooth than the big 10 ft long stone could be polishes
smooth by placing five 2ft on top and having ten men twisting the the
top stones. The mount Palomar telescope final polishing was done by
hand,and it was done to a millionth of an inch. If you can build
something in your mind from beginning to end before falling asleep. When
actually building it you don't run into any snags. Best regards
Herb

rryker1

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Feb 24, 2002, 6:12:36 AM2/24/02
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Rod: I think the jews of Egypt of were great carpenters ,
they had good fitting skills .
But I don't know about how these jews of Egypt were
at cutting stone .
Praps you could explain how these jews of Egypt were
involved if at all in stone making .

Best regards ,
Rod Ryker

EL

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Feb 24, 2002, 8:26:51 PM2/24/02
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rryker1 <rry...@fuse.net> wrote in message news:<3C78CAA4...@fuse.net>...
[EL]
You learn too fast. :-)
You know too much. :-)
<Grinnnnnnnnnnn>

EL

rryker1

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Feb 25, 2002, 3:21:16 AM2/25/02
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Hi EL

EL wrote:

Rod: Herb has no use for the Indian Nations for sure .
He never capitalizes *Indian* .
He can't even bring himself to spell my name correctly .
Fortunately , I am begining to see .

My regrets for doubting you EL ,
Rod Ryker

P.S. Thank you Herb , for proving my ignorance .


cruiser

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Feb 25, 2002, 9:33:48 AM2/25/02
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<Johnn...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9456-3C7...@storefull-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> Hello Herb... I always look for the scientific explanation of fitting
> the pyramid stones together. (As opposed to some mystical levitation)
> ... But Jesus, that chunk of granite by the King's chamber is 10 feet
> long, 8 feet high, and 4 feet wide... How do you move that sucker back
> and forth? Even with a mud slurry under it... And what about the side
> edges? ...Of that or any of the pyramid's blocks?
>

I saw one theory that makes some sense. Some discovered artifacts were
reported to back up the theory.

The theory is that the Egyptians used wood pieces which were fastened to the
sides of the blocks.

Picture a circle. Now fit a rectangle inside the circle so that the corners
of the rectangle touch the perimeter of the circle. The portions outside the
rectangle would be the cross-section of the wood pieces attached to the
blocks. With these wood pieces in place, it was then possible to roll the
blocks like big cylinders. The theory is that the wood cylinders were set on
two ropes, with the ropes brought up the backside of the cylinder and over
the top to the other side. So, the ropes would form a "C" shape around the
cylinder, with both ends of the ropes in the direction of travel. Pulling on
the top end of the ropes would roll the cylinder over the bottom ends of the
rope, laved out like a track. Wedges would prevent rollback.

I would imagine that these wood pieces were reusable, so that once a block
was at the desired location, the wood was removed and sent back down to use
on another block.. This would solve the problem of friction when moving the
blocks, but the placing would still require some levers, I suppose.

Cruiser


G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 25, 2002, 5:55:53 PM2/25/02
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Did I not dote the i Am I to be called some sort of a racists by those
that are in this group who are out and out racists. El and Hansons post
prove my post.They are anti- semites and will not denied it. They love
to create hate between groups,and they know this is true. They are the
scum of humanity,for they are very hateful people that mankind will
fight at the end of time. Herb

EL

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Feb 25, 2002, 7:26:22 PM2/25/02
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[EL]
That is a very nice dream.
Now setting such stones at the corner of a pyramid, let us say, 20
meters above ground, demands a god to do it.
Nah, gods are expensive to employ, they must have captured a couple of
alien hovering saucers to pull on the stones from the air.
Nah, that too is far fetched, then they must have 'pushed' the huge
stones with a couple giants genetically breaded for that task, rather
than 'pulling' on them with ropes.
Nah, too many assumptions here too.
Eureka, I found it, your *reported* theory must be chicken shit or dog
drool.
Ah! That solved it. :-)
<Grinnnnnnnnnnnnnn>

EL
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EL

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Feb 25, 2002, 10:26:13 PM2/25/02
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[EL]
This must be a fantastic new theory.
Noh had three sons.
Sam, Ham and Japheth.
I am certainly neither a Japhethite nor a Hamite.
Therefore I have nothing left to be else than a Semite.
Now explain to me how can I be a racist being anti-me? <g>

As I always said Herbie, you are a natural idiot who occasionally
posts some intelligent posts.
You are a living evidence that idiots could learn and think and learn
to think more.
I have no particular hopes in you to change from being an idiot, but
at least try. :-)

I might be rightfully branded as a rebel or wrongly accused of being a
traitor, but a racist! I do not think so. <g>
Now sprinkle some logic on top of two eggs and beet them till they
erect 'something' from the middle. <another g>
I am not a Jew, but I am certainly the descendent of their ancestors.
Not every Egyptian followed Moses, only the idiots and scum did, and
Einstein had to come from their breeding.
Those who were in elite positions were not pressured for an exodus,
and Hemetis had to come from the breeding of the elite science monks.
Every race contains elite members and contains scum.
Internally, we do look down on each other you know. <g>
Inside Israel the European Jews look down on the middle Eastern Jews.
Outside Israel, EL Hemetis looks down on ALL. Period.
You should try the view from the top of my pyramid, it makes you
dizzy. :-)
But that is when I am down.
Normally, I am up with Ra'. <g>
Would you like some light? ;-)

Cheers.

EL the Hemetis. :-)

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hanson

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Feb 25, 2002, 11:35:16 PM2/25/02
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Herbie, what's eating you? I didn't even post to this tread and you attack
me?! Did you consume some rotten, unkosher gefilte fish, began to
belly-ache and now you let it out on me? Oi-weh!

[Herbie]


> Did I not dote the i

[hanson]
Herbie, Herbie, Herbie: You did not "dote" an "i" nor anything else. But
what you need is an "anti-dote" against your aberrated fanaticism, your
full fletched paranoia, your persecution complex, your Semitic fetish and
especially against your very own intense hate. Do not be so loud about it,
you poor, poor sod.

[Herbie]
> Hansons, > They are anti- semites

[hanson]
Herbie, Hebrie, Hebrie, listen. There are millions of Hansons, all of them
with different social preferences. Them being pro- or anti-Semitic is just
a megalomaniac delusion in your insolvent, geriatric brain.
The notion of your Semitic fixation and you yourself, Hebrie, are of no
importance, neither to any of them Hansons nor to me personally.
I know, this hurts you and I am sorry. But you are really NOT that
important, even if you were to try to be humble in your senility.
Golda Meir observed that too.

[Herbie]


> to create hate between groups,and they know this is true. They are the
> scum of humanity,for they are very hateful people that mankind will
> fight at the end of time. Herb

[hanson]
Herbie, Herbie, Herbie: What kind of dire threats are throwing at me here?
Are you commanding suddenly all of mankind? Do you still get stirrings in
your old shvanz , when you have such sudden “hour of power” fantasies like
that? Good for you and congratulations to your shriveled shlong, Herbie.
But Herbie, folks were right when they posted that your were an
embarrassment to the Jewish community. I begin to understand now why.

See, Herbie, TRY to realize, that YOU, Herbie, are the only one in these
NG's who constantly yells "hate". --- And, here in your post you come
again with your most prevalent word in your vocabulary "hate", which seems
to be your all consuming emotion and your constant companion, YOUR very OWN
"hate". You are indeed some hateful old man, you poor old fegele.

Herbie, with your incessant shrill shrieks of hate, you have become an
excellent promoter to show the whole world what your handle stands for:
G=EMC^2 means "Glazier Exhibits Mentally Crippled Conditions".....
and that it does not stand for allegedly meaning God=EMC^2 as you so
phonily and sanctimoniously like to have people believe. "People are
getting wise to you", just like you predicted about yourself 2 days ago.

[Herbie]


> Am I to be called some sort of a racists by those

[hanson]
Herbie, Herbie, Herbie: "to be called ", you say? Did your wine glass, you
shot BB's at, turn into your personal crystal ball so that you can foresee
the future now and tell us what you are going "to be called"?
Herbie, you poor olde kacker, you suffer from some sort of dementia since
nobody, at least not me ever accused you of being a racist.
Of course, you being a fan of relativity, you must acknowledge that the
possibility does exist that when you see in your mind somebody as a racist,
then relative to you, that person might perceive you as an even bigger and
louder racist.
So, is there some Jewishe guilt manifesting in you here, Herbie ?
Relativity cast long shadows, Herbie, doesn't it.

[Herbie]


> they are very hateful people that mankind will fight at the end of time.

[hanson]
Herbie, Herbie, Herbie
From your own postings, Herbie, it appears that "the end of time" will come
much, much sooner to you, Herbie, than it will come for mankind.
Look, Herbie, when you were born you got a ticket good for a ride of some
80 or so revolutions around the solar carousel. -- Use it wisely,
especially your last few rounds now on it. --- So, grab a hold of your
fossilized beitsam, pray, repent and stop your self-destructive hatred. ---
Herbie, don't get off the carousel with such ill feelings in your heart.

We all love you, Herbie.
hanson


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cruiser

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"EL" <hem...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> [EL]
> That is a very nice dream.
> Now setting such stones at the corner of a pyramid, let us say, 20
> meters above ground, demands a god to do it.
> Nah, gods are expensive to employ, they must have captured a couple of
> alien hovering saucers to pull on the stones from the air.
> Nah, that too is far fetched, then they must have 'pushed' the huge
> stones with a couple giants genetically breaded for that task, rather
> than 'pulling' on them with ropes.

As I understand it it was nothing quite so fantastic. Apparently they used
ramps, you know the inclinded plane.. Most of us learned about the inclined
plane very early in school, along with wheels, levers, pullies and screws.

> Nah, too many assumptions here too.
> Eureka, I found it, your *reported* theory must be chicken shit or dog
> drool.
> Ah! That solved it. :-)
> <Grinnnnnnnnnnnnnn>

Sorry, not my theory, but it is the best I have seen yet. The methodolgy is
at least plausible.

Your explanations on the other hand, are worthy of your own adjectives, as
is your whole post in general.

<Grinnnnnnnnnnnnnn>

Cruiser

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 26, 2002, 5:59:18 PM2/26/02
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Hanson As you and others know I turned El into the files of the FBI
after 9/11. You even said to me this can hurt his career.He should of
thought of that before typing out his hate. The FBI when they called me
back,I wanted to know if I was the only,and they said "NO" He will
never enter our country. He will never visit those 50 relatives
(probably more of his bull shit) that live in the USA. One is a dentist
in New york city. Can we ask his name? I think not. He is a back
stabbing low life. He shows only hate,and he will never know how hateful
he is. In 1941 the Japanese stabbed us in the back,so El must fit in to
their society so very well. He will NEVER come to my country. Herb

JeffMo

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Feb 26, 2002, 6:09:30 PM2/26/02
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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Was this in America, the land of free speech, or America, the land
where you keep people under surveillance for expressing the wrong
opinion?

I've had a damn hard time telling them apart in the last few years.

EL

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Feb 26, 2002, 7:53:15 PM2/26/02
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"cruiser" <tg.cr...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<thMe8.73739$JZ.86...@news20.bellglobal.com>...
[EL]
You missed the whole point, even though I take notice of your grin.
:-)
I know that it is not your theory, and that is why I highlighted
"*reported*".
You own the reporting, not the theory.
My mockery is rightfully placed.
Simply because I know how the pyramids were built down to the extreme
details.
Now, even though I might choose to honor the secretiveness of my
ancestors, I keep the right to expose the falsity of logic in theories
hypothesized by others.
Yes, there was ramps.
No, there was no wheels.
Yes, there was ropes.
No, there were no idiots then
Yes, there were hard working people, with faith that moved mountain.
No, there were no aliens.
Yes, there were genius designers.
No, there were no dreamers.
Yes, stone setting technology was at its peak over the entire history
of man kind.
No, you have no idea what was that technology.
Yes, I am not going to tell. :-)

EL

EL

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Feb 26, 2002, 11:40:23 PM2/26/02
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[EL]
The only logical explanation to your illogical accusations is that I
must have branded you 'scum' without knowing it. ;-)
Welcome inferior cousin. :-)
I only hate wind because it destroys my very expensive 'hair style'.
<g>
Let me suggest to you to seek some professional assistance, and I mean
it.
You are very emotionally instable, so be careful.
You are confusing between arrogance and hate.
If you were such a dreamer student under me, I shall make sure that
you fail the exams according to your answers not according to my hate.
No one needs to hate an idiot for being an idiot or scum for being
scum, but please, I am human.
Allow me to look down on you as my personal opinion, scum.
I cannot hate you, because you are inferior.
You have every reason to hate me and envy me for being superior.
To prove to you that I do not hate you, I invite you to climb my
pyramid if you could.
While I elevate at will to the top, you need to climb the rocks, but
given your behavior, you shall sleep in the first crevice you find.
Yes, beside Big Mojo, where you belong. :-)
Now demonstrate to us how much an idiot can be an idiot in some
quantitative style.
I feel no need to defend myself against a puny and unfounded
accusation.
Your president, the president of the United States of America had
almost an identical point of view like mine.
Your free press repeated every word I said, but I was faster
concluding it.
Your top executives through logical analysis and deed study of the
global situation have arrived to the same conclusions I was faster to
conclude.
How can you, idiot, accuse me of hating America, if my mind is at the
level of your elite staff, and my decisions are identical to their
decisions?
The only logical answer is that you are an idiot, did you get it,
scum?

The elite scientist.

EL


herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<21289-3C...@storefull-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

EL

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Feb 26, 2002, 11:44:17 PM2/26/02
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Your top executives through logical analysis and deep study of the
global situation have arrived to the same conclusions, which I was

hanson

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Feb 27, 2002, 11:55:02 AM2/27/02
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[Hebrie]

> Hanson As you and others know I turned El into the files of the FBI
> after 9/11. You even said to me this can hurt his career.

[hanson]
Herbie, you make this sound like I have agreed with you and that
I have approved of your sore loser** revenge against EL, for which
you used the convenient guise of phony patriotism.
So, show me the ID of the post where I said that and meant what
you insinuate here or I must conclude that you are a two faced liar
on top of behaving like a bacon hating bigot, who continues to be
an embarrassment to the Jewish community, by promoting the
stereo typical bad jew-image and constantly advertises that


G=EMC^2 means "Glazier Exhibits Mentally Crippled Conditions".

Say something interesting, Herbie!

**sore loser: You were angry at EL because he proved you to
be an intellectual worm, compared to him, in prior posts on
physics issues. So, you took 9/11 to get back at him. That's all.

[Herbie]
> He [EL] shows only hate,and he [El] will never know how hateful


> he is. In 1941 the Japanese stabbed us in the back,
> so El must fit in to their society so very well.

[hanson]
It is NOT EL, --- it is YOU, Herb, who is full of hate, a bigot and a
racist, and you just admitted to that. Read again what you just said.

***Herbert Glaser, you are the Poster boy for the Ugly American***.

hanson

PS: Don't come to me, whining & looking for support and sympathy
now. Instead ask your Dr. whether you can half the dose of all those
geriatric medications you take. The mood swings between your
hate filled megalomania and your paranoid fixations may subside
and you make actually be able then to say something interesting.
Now apologize to EL. He will forgive you. No questions asked.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message

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PS 2:


> The FBI when they called me back,I wanted to know

The FBI called you back to put a collar on YOU, Herbie, you stupid turd.

MarkK

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Feb 27, 2002, 3:13:39 PM2/27/02
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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<21289-3C...@storefull-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Herb , stick to physics. You are too much like a nazi in your political outlook.
Mark K.

rryker1

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Feb 27, 2002, 10:31:09 PM2/27/02
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Hi Herb . Hey , I spelled your name correctly .

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Rod: The FBI are the Presidents boys and are mainly concerned
with the affairs on U.S. shores .
The CIA handle U.S. problems abroad .
So call the CIA and have them kidnap Hemet
and bring him to this country where he shall be treated
ein konig !

Well , I tried . ;)

Rod Ryker

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Feb 28, 2002, 2:53:23 PM2/28/02
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Hi Rod Had a friend that I grew up with the name of Ron.Sorry ,but
don't change your name. We all are citizens of our own country. I
do not blow myself up in another country to kill their people. I do not
bad mouth the people that have a government that is not to my liking.
I do not single out any group of people that live on this planet. If my
name is put in a way that is untrue in this regard I will fight back.If
some low life said after 9/11 on this group the killing of people is
justified,because we established the country of Israel I say "FUCK YOU"
El is such a person and he will not ever set foot on any of our 50
states. He knows this and so does those that can keep him out.
Let him stay in a country that will have him stay. He married a Japanese
woman,has he asked to be a citizen of Japan? I'll take a guess "NO" He
is a Moslem He will tell you he's not(more of his bull shit) He is no
different than "GOBEL"S for he is Ben Larden's propagandist

JeffMo

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Feb 28, 2002, 5:28:42 PM2/28/02
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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Herb, I respect your right to have whatever viewpoint you wish, but I
would like to request that you provide a quote of El saying that "the


killing of people is justified,because we established the country of

Israel."

Isn't it at least *possible* that this represents how you
*interpreted* what El said, instead of what he actually said?

The reason I ask is that I remember reading a post by El that said
that the killings were NOT justified, but that it is also important to
try to understand why some people in certain parts of the world might
claim that they WERE justified.

EL

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Feb 28, 2002, 8:59:18 PM2/28/02
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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote in message news:<4255-3C7...@storefull-132.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

[EL]
Nothing more than a pathetic piece of shit, scum of the human race, is
what you are.
My name can be translated as 'Hemet of Sharon'.
Does that sound like Moslem to you?!!!!!!!!!!
Indeed, and Manakhem Begin must be Aborigine. :-)
This must be an evidence that Michael Jackson must be Shinto or
Buddhist too; it is obvious in his name. <g>
You are losing your mind Herb, so stop masturbating three times a day
after taking all those Viagra pills.
Why are you blaming me for your stupidity, delusions and comprehension
incompetence?
Go to hospital to take care of you man; I am serious; and before you
turn into a vegetable.
EL

hanson

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Feb 28, 2002, 10:57:53 PM2/28/02
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Herbie,
So, you write that you do forget the identity of your own doctor, important
things like "his name, telephone # and the time to see him", but that you
do remember and pathetically hang onto every available detail of EL's
identify, a cyber character, a person you have never met, a person that may
not even exist.

Herbie, if you keep this shit up then it becomes apparent that G=EMC^2 does
NOT mean God=EMC^2, but is indeed an acronym for "Glaser = emotional,
mentally confused cripple". That's what you portray here, Herbie.

Let me refresh your conveniently selective memory, or help you in your
decrepit condition.

Listen to yourself here: sad, apologetic, whining, crying and irrational:

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message

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Re: More Photons Please?
> Hi Rod Please forgive me. I have two things going against me in my old
> age. Why eye's and the memory part of my brain. I had a memory Dr. that
> gave me a date to see him. I forgot his name,telephone # and the time to
> see him. That is also why I like this group on new theories.New theories
> come in so very slow if I forget them,no time is really gone by. Best
> regards to to you Herb

And now, just 35 minutes later you are highly agitated, hateful, revenge
seeking, defaming and even more irrational:

"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:4255-3C7...@storefull-132.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

But then, others like "MarkK" see you, Herbie, as a Gobel too, and write in
message news:6e7b962f.02022...@posting.google.com...
> [Herbie,] You are too much like a nazi in your political outlook.

So, Herbie, let me repeat for your benefit what I said in yesterday's post:
news:Gb8f8.20710$ZC3.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
Herbie, ask your Dr. whether you can half the dose of all those


geriatric medications you take. The mood swings between your
hate filled megalomania and your paranoid fixations may subside

and you may actually be able then to say something intelligent.
Now, apologize to EL. He will forgive you. No questions asked.
hanson


PS: Sheesh, fellows,
-- Is this what we have to look forward to when we get to Herbie's age?
-- God have mercy on us!
-- God have mercy on us!
-- God have mercy on us!

EL

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Mar 1, 2002, 1:45:17 AM3/1/02
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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message news:<5%Cf8.25361$0C1.2...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

> PS: Sheesh, fellows,
> -- Is this what we have to look forward to when we get to Herbie's age?
> -- God have mercy on us!
> -- God have mercy on us!
> -- God have mercy on us!

[EL]
One of the huge differences between Herb and me,
is that he is in love with a cyber-flower, while I love a cyber-tree. <g>


<Damn I'm too good to be a human> :-)
<I should have been an angel> :-)

EheheL

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Mar 1, 2002, 7:52:13 AM3/1/02
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Hi Jeffmo Just look up his posts after 9/11. Best regards
Herb

JeffMo

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Mar 4, 2002, 11:37:53 AM3/4/02
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herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

>Hi Jeffmo Just look up his posts after 9/11.

I'll take that as an admission that you can't do what I asked, because
I DID read his posts after 9/11, and I told you what my interpretation
was. If you had that much difficulty reading my request, I'd say
there's a fair chance that you had trouble reading El's writing, too.

Laurent

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Mar 4, 2002, 6:55:52 PM3/4/02
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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This is delirious!

I feel like I just entered the Twilight Zone!

Isn't this thread about magnetic fields, or something like that?

EL

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Mar 4, 2002, 10:42:50 PM3/4/02
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"Laurent" <duch...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<cQTg8.102774$7a1.8...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...

> This is delirious!
>
> I feel like I just entered the Twilight Zone!
>
> Isn't this thread about magnetic fields, or something like that?
[EL]
Yes.

"
What is the polarity of Earths magnetic field and is it a constant?.
Is
it possible to create a device that would counteract this magnetic
field. i.e. a levitation device.

Thanks


poe
"

The inner core of earth is solid iron (13.5 g/cm^3).
The outer core is liquid molten iron.
Both the inner and the outer cores do not rotate at the same speed of
the compound mantle.
There had been a mapping of the magnetic fields reaching us from the
sun.
The orbit of earth, when viewed from the northern hemisphere of the
solar system is CCW.
The rotation of earth per day is also CCW from the northern point of
view.
Even the moon does the same.
When a conductor rotates in a magnetic field a current is induced,
which in turn creates the torus magnetic field we know to have two
poles.
The magnetic poles of the sun should limit a line parallel to that of
the earth limited by its magnetic poles.
Nevertheless, the polarity should be reversed, such that the northern
pole of the sun is in the northern hemisphere while earth has a south
magnetic pole there.
Depending on the slip factor between the cores and the mantle the
rates of electric current induction varies and the polarity along with
the whole earth's geographical rotation and tilt could be affected.
In my opinion, an inversion of magnetic poles would be disastrous to
life on earth, because dramatic climatic changes would follow.

As for the levitation device, you can take a magnetic compass with you
in a balloon full of helium or even hot air. <g>

Kindest regards.

EL

rryker1

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Mar 5, 2002, 4:04:08 AM3/5/02
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Hi EL
Rod: Then it is the heat further within the core from the
liquid iron and the friction caused by the non comovement
of the the core and liquid iron that causes the magnetic field ?

Rod Ryker

EL

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Mar 5, 2002, 7:50:43 PM3/5/02
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[EL]
No, although that was my first impression, but I was wrong.
The Curie temperature of permanent magnetism is exceeded.
A hot magnet, which exceeds the Curie temperature loses its magnetism.
The Earth's magnetism must be a dynamic electric current generated
field.
Friction may produce an electrostatic charge, but where and how much?
There is no evidence of any static negative charge accumulating
because it would be detected on the surface of the mantle.
The most probable explanation is that molten iron is still good to be
a conductor as solid iron, and you may ask a welder on that. <g>
Since Earth is rotating within the magnetic field of the sun, then by
induction an electric field could be generated in the earth's cores.
The generated field is a function of the speed of rotation and
conductivity, which is affected by temperature and state.
The electric current (of earth) is in the form of an equatorial ring
at the core.
The magnetic field (of earth) is in the form of a Torus.
The electric charge (of earth) is in the form of polar aurora.
I did not study yet the reasons behind the rotation of Earth.
All planets do have orbits, but do they all spin on an axis?
I do not know.
Why does the Earth spin?
I do not know.
Do you know? :-)

Kind regards.

EL

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