Utilizing 400 nm laser light.

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

Dave Bell wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lasers/msg/ae8efde39cb9ed26 :

> What do you do to utilize the 400 nM energy delivered to your
> house? Certainly, one way would
> be to stimulate fluorescence and produce
> visible light, but what about heat, appliance power, etc.?

To make visible light, stimulate fluorescence. As for heat, 400 nm light
of sufficient intensity can produce sufficient heat for any task. It is
possible that these lasers could also be used -- to some extent -- for
cooling, though this would only work on certain substances. Google
"laser cooling".

Computers and similar devices can be made purely optical. Instead of
electronic, they are photonic. Light becomes the source of power as well
as data.

As for motive power, there are certain proteins that change shape when
exposed to light. Perhaps contractile proteins -- similar to those found
in our muscles -- could be constructed in such a way that they would
contract and relax in a manner analogous to the intensity of the blue
light they are exposed to. Muscle cells from donors could be
bioengineered so that they respond solely to 400 nm light by changing
their contractile state. Photoreceptors engineered from retina could be
attached to the muscle cells. When light is shined onto the
photoreceptors, photochemical protein-based process could be engineered
such that excitant-proteins will be released into the muscle cells
causing them to contract. When the light is removed, then the lack of
excitation in the photoreceptors trigger the release of
relaxant-proteins which will relax the muscle cells.

[bob]

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Dave Bell wrote in
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lasers/msg/ae8efde39cb9ed26 :
>
> > What do you do to utilize the 400 nM energy delivered to your
> > house? Certainly, one way would
> > be to stimulate fluorescence and produce
> > visible light, but what about heat, appliance power, etc.?
>
> To make visible light, stimulate fluorescence. As for heat, 400 nm light
> of sufficient intensity can produce sufficient heat for any task.

not really, the target must be matched to 400 nm, and it will spaltter
around and blind you.

>It is possible that these lasers could also be used -- to some extent --
>for cooling, though this would only work on certain substances. Google
>"laser cooling".

how can it cool when it adds energy ?

>
> Computers and similar devices can be made purely optical.

not really, not practable, too costly, has not been done

>Instead of electronic, they are photonic. Light becomes the source of power
>as well as data.

dream on........

>
> As for motive power, there are certain proteins that change shape when
> exposed to light. Perhaps contractile proteins -- similar to those found
> in our muscles -- could be constructed in such a way that they would
> contract and relax in a manner analogous to the intensity of the blue
> light they are exposed to. Muscle cells from donors could be bioengineered
> so that they respond solely to 400 nm light by changing their contractile
> state. Photoreceptors engineered from retina could be attached to the
> muscle cells. When light is shined onto the photoreceptors, photochemical
> protein-based process could be engineered such that excitant-proteins will
> be released into the muscle cells causing them to contract. When the light
> is removed, then the lack of excitation in the photoreceptors trigger the
> release of relaxant-proteins which will relax the muscle cells.

use a electronic zapper, cost $20 and works fine contracts muscles.

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

bob wrote:

> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:47538cda$0$28857$4c36...@roadrunner.com...

>
>>Dave Bell wrote in
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lasers/msg/ae8efde39cb9ed26 :
>>

>>
>>>What do you do to utilize the 400 nM energy delivered to your
>>>house? Certainly, one way would
>>>be to stimulate fluorescence and produce
>>>visible light, but what about heat, appliance power, etc.?

>>
>>To make visible light, stimulate fluorescence. As for heat, 400 nm light
>>of sufficient intensity can produce sufficient heat for any task.

> not really, the target must be matched to 400 nm, and it will spaltter
> around and blind you.

Why would it splatter?

>>Computers and similar devices can be made purely optical.
>
>
> not really, not practable, too costly, has not been done
>

What are the limitations to purely-optical computers with purely-optical
power supplies?

>
>>Instead of electronic, they are photonic. Light becomes the source of power
>>as well as data.
>
>
> dream on........
>

What makes it impractical to use light as a source of power? If the data
is carried as light, why not power it with light instead of using
electricity to generate the light?

[Bill Kaszeta / Photovoltaic Resources]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:16:10 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>What makes it impractical to use light as a source of power? If the data
>is carried as light, why not power it with light instead of using
>electricity to generate the light?

How do you turn it off or reduce the energy when not needed?

With electricity, one opens the circuit and the flow stops. Without
a flow of energy, there is no energy lost and no cost of energy.

With light energy coming in, it is not clear how one can turn it off.
How would use of energy be metered?

(not posted to sci.optics,alt.sci.natural.phenomena.unusual due to Cox limit)
Bill Kaszeta
Photovoltaic Resources Int'l
Tempe Arizona USA
bi...@pvri-removethis.biz

[zzbu...@netscape.net]

On Dec 7, 1:16 am, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:
> bob wrote:
> > "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote in message

> >news:47538cda$0$28857$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>
> >>Dave Bell wrote in
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lasers/msg/ae8efde39cb9ed26:
>
> >>>What do you do to utilize the 400 nM energy delivered to your
> >>>house? Certainly, one way would
> >>>be to stimulate fluorescence and produce
> >>>visible light, but what about heat, appliance power, etc.?
>
> >>To make visible light, stimulate fluorescence. As for heat, 400 nm light
> >>of sufficient intensity can produce sufficient heat for any task.
> > not really, the target must be matched to 400 nm, and it will spaltter
> > around and blind you.
>
> Why would it splatter?
>
> >>Computers and similar devices can be made purely optical.
>
> > not really, not practable, too costly, has not been done
>
> What are the limitations to purely-optical computers with purely-optical
> power supplies?

Well, none. Since there are no such things.
The idiot thing scientoons make are often called
calculators, rather than computers.
Since computers mostly assume you know something
about software, rather than any kind of power supply.
Which is CD works so well, and fiber optics only works,
as long as you don't let idiots like Chemists and
7-11 make your fibers.

>
>
>
> >>Instead of electronic, they are photonic. Light becomes the source of power
> >>as well as data.
>
> > dream on........
>
> What makes it impractical to use light as a source of power? If the data
> is carried as light, why not power it with light instead of using

> electricity to generate the light?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

Bill Kaszeta / Photovoltaic Resources wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:16:10 -0800, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>What makes it impractical to use light as a source of power? If the data
>>is carried as light, why not power it with light instead of using
>>electricity to generate the light?

> How do you turn it off or reduce the energy when not needed?
>
> With electricity, one opens the circuit and the flow stops. Without
> a flow of energy, there is no energy lost and no cost of energy.
>
> With light energy coming in, it is not clear how one can turn it off.
> How would use of energy be metered?

Correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK aneutronic fusion has the potential
to provide billions of years of power. So there is little -- if any --
need for the energy use to be metered.

To stop the flow of energy, one can use a material that will block the
light. In electricity, an insulator stops the entrance of electrons.
Something that stops the entrance of photons in the 400 nm wavelength
range could be used.

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Green Xenon [Radium] <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

> Correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK aneutronic fusion has the potential
> to provide billions of years of power. So there is little -- if any --
> need for the energy use to be metered.

IF it is ever shown to be possible and IF it is economical to do so.

It is much more likely I will win the Lottery than I will see an aneutronic
fusion power plant.

<snip babble>

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

[Daniel Pitts]

Bad example, people win the lottery all the time. Although, you're point
may be valid, your analogy isn't.

--
Daniel Pitts' Tech Blog: <http://virtualinfinity.net/wordpress/>

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Daniel Pitts <newsgroup....@virtualinfinity.net> wrote:
> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > In sci.physics Green Xenon [Radium] <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK aneutronic fusion has the potential
> >> to provide billions of years of power. So there is little -- if any --
> >> need for the energy use to be metered.
> >
> > IF it is ever shown to be possible and IF it is economical to do so.
> >
> > It is much more likely I will win the Lottery than I will see an aneutronic
> > fusion power plant.
> >
> > <snip babble>
> >
> Bad example, people win the lottery all the time. Although, you're point
> may be valid, your analogy isn't.

Maybe; ->I<- don't win the lottery all the time.

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

Which do you think is more likely to be used for power in the next 2
centuries -- aneutronic fusion or matter/anti-matter annihilation?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

Neither.

[Skywise]

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote in news:4760ad85$0$6955
$4c36...@roadrunner.com:

> Which do you think is more likely to be used for power in the next 2
> centuries -- aneutronic fusion or matter/anti-matter annihilation?

If your education is any indication, I have no expectation of
humanity's continuation, if not outright self elimination
before the realization of either conceptualization.

procreation
radiation
interrogation
consternation

Brian
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