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Karl

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Oct 30, 2009, 11:56:37 PM10/30/09
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The trash bag works great! We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
which lasted for a couple days. All the right conditions to test
the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

Our local Home Depot does not stock the Dupont RZ-50 that was
recommended. But as it turns out, I don't believe it is all that
necessary. The bag all by itself prevented the snow from piling
up on the dish very much, certainly not to the point of causing
much deterioration or loss of the satellite signal. And the few
little bits of ice and snow that were barely sticking to the
plastic bag were easily brushed away with a gentle sweep of the
hand the next day. I mean it's amazing. The totally hard-frozen
ice popped right off the bag!

Thanks again to " Dirtydan <Dirtyda...@satelliteguys.us> "
who suggested using the trash bag, and the RZ-50, although I
haven't had the chance to try the latter. But now that I know
the bag works so well, I'll definitely keep my eye out for the
RZ-50. You're the man, Dan!

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Karl


Jim Watt

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Oct 31, 2009, 7:35:26 AM10/31/09
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On 31 Oct 2009 03:56:37 -0000, Karl <_@_> wrote:

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> The trash bag works great! We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
>which lasted for a couple days. All the right conditions to test
>the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

What is this 'snow' and 'ice' of which you speak?

we only get occasional rain here :)
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Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Linea Recta

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Oct 31, 2009, 8:22:29 AM10/31/09
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"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht news:OGGW9667401...@reece.net.au...

>
> The trash bag works great! We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
> which lasted for a couple days. All the right conditions to test
> the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.


Gosh, snowfall... Where on earth might that be?
Anyway, I think this is a very good idea. It seems effective, doesn't cost
much and I suppose it will also protect the dish against corrosion.

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Buddenbrooks

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Oct 31, 2009, 8:22:56 AM10/31/09
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"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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>
> we only get occasional rain here :)
> --

You have set the water drop parameters incorrectly, should be state =
solid, colour = white. I think you still have the default, liquid,
transparent.

Karl

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Oct 31, 2009, 10:18:42 AM10/31/09
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In news:4aec2c0b$0$83251$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl . . .

"Linea Recta" <mccm...@abc.invalid> wrote:
>"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht news:OGGW9667401...@reece.net.au...
>>
>> The trash bag works great! We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
>> which lasted for a couple days. All the right conditions to test
>> the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.
>
>
>Gosh, snowfall... Where on earth might that be?

As Clint Eastwood said: "It snows in the mountains."

>Anyway, I think this is a very good idea. It seems effective, doesn't cost
>much and I suppose it will also protect the dish against corrosion.

It's especially helpful in situations where seasonal
snowfalls are common and the dish is not easy to reach.

I'm using a common tall white kitchen bag, which is
draped loosely over the dish and secured with a bit of
duct tape, but not too tight so that any wind or breeze
can get into the bag and "rattle" it from time to time.
I suspect that's what helps keep snow and ice from
building up on it, that, and the bag acts like "teflon"
or something against the freezing moisture. The most
amazing part is that the bag does not interfere at all
with the microwave satellite signals.

Who'd a thunk it? The cheapest and easiest solution
is the best solution. I would imagine the RZ-50 stuff,
http://www.rz-50.com/, might help it to stay ice-free?
But as it is, the bag by itself does the trick.

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Karl


John McWilliams

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Oct 31, 2009, 2:53:45 PM10/31/09
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I woulda used a black one, especially if the angle of the dish would
collect snow or ice on the baggie.
What angle is it?

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john mcwilliams

Linea Recta

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Oct 31, 2009, 3:25:56 PM10/31/09
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"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht
news:D4ZQAGT440117.9296527778@reece.net.au...

> In news:4aec2c0b$0$83251$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl . . .
> "Linea Recta" <mccm...@abc.invalid> wrote:
>>"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht
>>news:OGGW9667401...@reece.net.au...
>>>
>>> The trash bag works great! We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
>>> which lasted for a couple days. All the right conditions to test
>>> the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.
>>
>>
>>Gosh, snowfall... Where on earth might that be?
>
> As Clint Eastwood said: "It snows in the mountains."
>
>>Anyway, I think this is a very good idea. It seems effective, doesn't cost
>>much and I suppose it will also protect the dish against corrosion.
>
> It's especially helpful in situations where seasonal
> snowfalls are common and the dish is not easy to reach.


Here it hardly ever snows and my dish is very well accessible. :-)


>
> I'm using a common tall white kitchen bag, which is


I think in this case a dark coloured bag would be even better as it collects
more heat from the sun.

Karl

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Oct 31, 2009, 8:44:29 PM10/31/09
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In news:hci13p$145$1...@news.eternal-september.org . . .

I might try using a black bag at some point, but so far
the white bag is doing the job "swimmingly." The elevation
angle on the dish (Dish 500) is 43 degrees.


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Karl


Jim Watt

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Nov 1, 2009, 6:18:53 AM11/1/09
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Snow is not a problem as it never happens here
but getting a bin bag large enough for my 1.8m
dish might be hard and the wind an issue.

However, putting a plastic collar around the
lnb to keep water off its face made a significant
difference to its performance in medium rain.

ziikell101

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:41:52 AM11/3/09
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Jim Watt wrote:
> However, putting a plastic collar around the
> lnb to keep water off its face made a significant
> difference to its performance in medium rain.
> --
> Jim Watt
> http://www.gibnet.com

Did you buy or make one for a plastic cup? Looking to one of these myself.

Willem-Jan Markerink

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:20:00 AM11/17/09
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"Linea Recta" <mccm...@abc.invalid> wrote in
news:4aec2c0b$0$83251$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:

Even a bag that is open on the bottom might contain/trap more
moisture/humidity than no bag at all, in average....perhaps a very loose bag
could solve that, moving in the wind, acting as an air bellows, pumping air
in and out.

The worst thing one can do to store a car outside is cover it with a non-
moisture-permeable tarp....

Maybe there is a market for high-end moisture-permeable Goretex or eVent
bags?....:))

I do like the 'remote pull-cord' snow-removal feature though....:))

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Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

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Nancy2

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:37:11 PM11/17/09
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On Oct 31, 6:22 am, "Linea Recta" <mccm....@abc.invalid> wrote:
> "Karl" <_@_> schreef in berichtnews:OGGW9667401...@reece.net.au...

Corrosion? In the U.S., Dish network and DirecTV both own the dishes,
so if it gets corroded, they'll come and replace it.

Since DTV changed to a single satellite (hence, single dish), rain
fade is pretty much a thing of the past. My local ABC affiliate wants
to break up now and then, but that's a local thing.

If I put a bag over my dish, I'll have to get a stepladder and
approach the edge of the roof - no thanks. ;-)

N.

Jim Watt

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:26:01 AM11/23/09
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:41:52 +0100, ziikell101 <joek...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I used a plastic baby wipes container.

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