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Jan Panteltje

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:44:55 PM11/10/09
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Video, hack a TV smartcard the high tech way:
http://www.wired.com/video/hack-a-sattv-smart-card/1813637610

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 12:52:24 AM11/13/09
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Thats all hogwash!
It is not possible to see electronic code on chips with the use of any
kind of visual aid! Disecting a smartcard chip and using acid to hack
an algorithym is sales fodder the fool the public into believing it
cost Uncle Rupert mega bux to release Nagravision code on the
internet!

This was a scapegoat to throw canal plus and the legal system off
target from proving it was hand delivered by its makers(NDS) to Papa
Rupert for a song!

I doubt Tarnavarsky could use hex editor to update his own files to
erase the effect of an ecm.from his own hacked card. However I'll bet
Unk probably paid him enough to drink a gallon of the acid to be his
fall guy$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Think about it it can be read and written to by a card reader with the
already exposed pads why would you need another access point?

Jan Panteltje

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Nov 13, 2009, 6:55:52 AM11/13/09
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On a sunny day (Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:52:24 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
<joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
<365e0548-5f1c-4ee6...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>:

>Thats all hogwash!
>It is not possible to see electronic code on chips with the use of any
>kind of visual aid!

The man uses a logic analyser.
Get an electronics education.
It can even be done with just a storage scope and some patience.

>Disecting a smartcard chip and using acid to hack
>an algorithym is sales fodder the fool the public into believing it
>cost Uncle Rupert mega bux to release Nagravision code on the
>internet!

Well, it seems 'Uncle Rupert', as you call him, is safe from you :-)

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:30:31 AM11/13/09
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On Nov 13, 6:55 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:52:24 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
> <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <365e0548-5f1c-4ee6-ad07-940e793ef...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>:

>
> >Thats all hogwash!
> >It is not possible to see electronic code on chips with the use of any
> >kind of visual aid!
>
> The man uses a logic analyser.
> Get an electronics education.
> It can even be done with just a storage scope and some patience.
>
> >Disecting a smartcard chip and using acid to hack
> >an algorithym is sales fodder the fool the public into believing it
> >cost Uncle Rupert mega bux to release Nagravision code on the
> >internet!
>
> Well, it seems 'Uncle Rupert', as you call him, is safe from you :-)

Yep Unk dont worry about me he has bought and paid for all possible
leads to litagation! So Tarny changed his original micron
microscope.He used to tell how he could see the electric impulses and
convert them to code . That youtube was used to create a cause for the
feds to prove such an item would work and supposedly took pictures of
the Nagra encryption to sell to Kwang so they could court him.!!

However no smartcards have even been hacked by anything but a card
readerand edited or written to by edit software1

Jan dont let electronic technobable influience your clouded ability to
reason!

The US court system was also fooled with that technobable and Uncle
Ruport and NDS escaped punishment! Wiki pedia can be edited to read
anything but highs and lows is all that can be analyzed with this
phenomenon!!

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:50:27 AM11/13/09
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He even using the old "glitching with a glitcher phrase".This too was
technobable to sell special loaders that would reset the ascic to
cleared status or erased status and ready to be rewritten.This highly
technical procedure was originally done by passing it through an
ultraviolet light! The new gadget just arks low voltage till the chip
has been erased!!
I used to erase them by contacting pad 2 with a 9 volt battery!

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:57:48 AM11/13/09
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joeturn View profile Ron T. You dont know who I am! I sir have
been dubbed "The King of Cut and Paste" by none other than The
Vorlon.. I was quarantined to the HU section of one of his sites (he
had several) till I developed the Glitch(erasing the ATR with a
voltage spike). I once had half a mind to become a politician! That
over qualified me, I could spell POTATO now I've gave up the chase for
My $5mil and have set my goals on becoming a Nobel Prize winner?&$
%#*
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You dont know who I am! I sir have been dubbed "The King of Cut and
Paste" by none other than The Vorlon..


I was quarantined to the HU section of one of his sites (he had
several) till I developed the Glitch(erasing the ATR with a voltage
spike).

Jan Panteltje

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:49:04 AM11/13/09
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On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:30:31 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
<joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
<624b007c-f682-4a5f...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:

>On Nov 13, 6:55�am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> On a sunny day (Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:52:24 -0800 (PST)) it happened joetur=


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>> <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> <365e0548-5f1c-4ee6-ad07-940e793ef...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> >Thats all hogwash!
>> >It is not possible to see electronic code on chips with the use of any
>> >kind of visual aid!
>>
>> The man uses a logic analyser.
>> Get an electronics education.
>> It can even be done with just a storage scope and some patience.
>>
>> >Disecting a smartcard chip and using acid to hack
>> >an algorithym is sales fodder the fool the public into believing it
>> >cost Uncle Rupert mega bux to release Nagravision code on the
>> >internet!
>>
>> Well, it seems 'Uncle Rupert', as you call him, is safe from you :-)
>
>Yep Unk dont worry about me he has bought and paid for all possible
>leads to litagation! So Tarny changed his original micron
>microscope.He used to tell how he could see the electric impulses and
>convert them to code . That youtube was used to create a cause for the
>feds to prove such an item would work and supposedly took pictures of
>the Nagra encryption to sell to Kwang so they could court him.!!

Yes, it is a complicated game of very powerful people and companies,
I have read about how UR had once viaccess hacked by an Israeli company,
and then had the source code distributed.

But for me all that hacking stopped a long time ago, it is illegal these days,
but also: WHY WOULD I BOTHER TO HACK SKY? It is all Republican propaganda and viewpoints!
War mongering, war for profit, the Bush era still weights on the current economy.
Scaring people.
It is GOOD it is encrypted, they should use the best system possible, so NOBODY can see it,
make it really expensive too.


> However no smartcards have even been hacked by anything but a card
>readerand edited or written to by edit software1

See what I wrote about viaccess.

>Jan dont let electronic technobable influience your clouded ability to
>reason!

But I *am* an electronics educated person, and I would have no problem listing the ROM of a card
like that, given the right equipment.
Microprocessors are an open book for me, even designed my own once with logic chips.

>The US court system was also fooled with that technobable and Uncle
>Ruport and NDS escaped punishment! Wiki pedia can be edited to read
>anything but highs and lows is all that can be analyzed with this
>phenomenon!!

However you slice it, I was surprised to see that movie... Why did immediately
after I posted that 203.6.203.73 start scanning my website?
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --sport 20:21 -m iprange --dst-range 203.6.192.0-203.6.207.255 -j DROP

LOL
Am I paranoid what???

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 2:56:53 PM11/13/09
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On Nov 13, 8:49 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:30:31 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
> <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <624b007c-f682-4a5f-9132-b41cff5e1...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:
> Am I paranoid what???- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Ive been harrasing the Murdochs for years its my cup of tea!

That Isreali company that was susposed to hack the Nagra System with
$5 mill of Ruports money was just another song and dance/Tarnarsky
ploy to steer litagation away from the NDS/ Murdochs! Uncle Ruports mo
was to release hackery for all his competitors so he could acquire the
biziness and become controling factor! Did you know he released the
blue box years ahead of nagra to purchase Ma Belle/AT&T. he sold those
boxes to people to hack pay telphone!

He was a smart buisness man ,when he took over the sellers thought he
was a godsend!

I feel sorry for the poor electronics repairman just because of micro
chips if they cant purchase a whole board to install ,the complete
unit goes obsolete!

I keep tring to tie Uncle Ruport to the RADIO SHACK brand of scanners
that were sabotauged They released the Pro 2004 with a wave of cold
solder joints to put Uniden andGSE back in control. I wonder did
Thomson Electronics own GSE?? If so that would put Uncle Ruport in
control way back when!!

Paranoia wont disstoy ya

The movie was released on youtube a year ago! Just think what other
purpose could it be for ? If Tarny was convicted of industrial
sabotauge he would not be advertising his ability to be hired for such
credintuals publicly!
There was another incident that also I find impossible to believe that
got Unk off the hook in the California Court. It was rumored a 19 year
old Russian Student working for a microfilm company got access to a
doccument of DTVs code and released it on the internet but that never
happened either.

So Unk creates his scapegoats to show it could not be him. That Sucker
bought a religous organization and had them loby Washington against
porn and became a US citizen so it would be legle to purchase DTV,just
to save the world from pornography$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Its a riot! I actually distrust every thing I see or hear anymore! I
believe Lucifer and his band of fallen angles are on EARTH and they
being supper powers are decieving the human race with every
incodent,Media, Government ,Religon,ect... not only in the USA but
world-wide war mongering has been Satans main goal.I think the bible
we read now adays is his hand writing and he pushes every verse to be
the gosple! check out Ananachi,Sumerians,Illumnati and Nibru this is
what I think is the real wrath of GOD.

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 3:16:20 PM11/13/09
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http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=whois&host=203.6.203.73


check the law suit out ! Ide say Sir James is pressing Dollar Bill
Gates soo far<I;-)

Jan Panteltje

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Nov 13, 2009, 3:51:33 PM11/13/09
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On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:16:20 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
<joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=whois&host 3.6.203.73


>
>
> check the law suit out ! Ide say Sir James is pressing Dollar Bill
>Gates soo far<I;-)

Oh well, I block any suspicious IP, all it takes is some weird http request or port banging,
or incorrect name server requests, those are blocked automatically now.
I have more then 1650 bad guys in the firewall now, maybe thousands of IP addresses.
My website is a private site, any misbehaviour results in a ban for life.
But for $$$$$$ I will look in the logs an check if there is reason to un-reject a
bad IP.
:-)

We will see more an more filters, and more an more political influence on the internet,
and finally it will be all under control, and you will have to refer to pigeons with paper messages again,
well, pigeons with USB sticks can be faster then some internet connections....
But once that becomes significant, as in many people will do it,
then they will start shooting down pigeons to read the messages...
So enjoy your freedom while it lasts.

joeturn

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:05:54 PM11/13/09
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Jan Panteltje

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:51:10 PM11/13/09
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On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:05:54 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
<joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Well, it is clear that we originate from the apes, GW Bush is the best proof:
http://www.bushorchimp.com/

But on a more serious tour of the subject,
maybe a tens planet existed, maybe there was a collision, but as to our origin,
that old society they talk about, those writings can much more easily be understood
from the perspective of a master - devotee relationship.
Start of religions..
I find it highly unlikely that there would be people living on such a far from the sun out cold planet...
Pluto is already a ball of ice.
So, an other fairy tale, some other stuff for a TV program.
Let's stay with science.
OTOH I have myself mentioned, recently, to seed the stars with our DNA,
send some probes with DNA in some way in some package to seed the universe with humans so to speak.
We know very little, in a few hundred years enormous advances have been made
in one specific field of science, physics related mainly, also in chemistry, electronics, nuclear.
Of course many current theories are completely wrong.
But look at how long humanity has been around, and compare the last 200 years to those millions,
sort of a similar jump must have occurred when making fire was mastered,
also when making iron and other metal objects happened.
But it could take an other few million years, if we are still around, to make a next step.
Spiritual (well wrong word perhaps) advancement would be needed too.
Just to survive.
Or the species will go dinosaur because of it's wars,
We need to seed the planets, make bases there, just to guarantee survival.

As we do not know IF humanity will survive, the sun will go out, and before it does burn the earth,
then what is our purpose?
Our purpose can only be to enjoy life now.
Your efficiency in that, in percent, is 100 x days_happy / days_lived.
:-)
So, what is the source of happiness, how to be always happy? It is within you, do meditation
and find it.
That is the first thing humanity needs now.

joeturn

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Nov 14, 2009, 5:27:20 AM11/14/09
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On Nov 13, 5:51 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:05:54 -0800 (PST)) it happened joeturn
> <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <73bd816e-4cec-4112-a1a0-6cfdedf07...@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>:

I have no salutions! I thought Teslas Hollowitzer could have cut
Nibiru down to size after 2500 years of bombardment!.I believe that
its return each time has created a new age(pre historic,Ice age,ect..)
by destroying all life forms on the surface that could not survive
till the cosmic effect dwindled.

I do believe the illuminati has bunkers to get into as soon as the
satelites report necessary! I feel that only a few will survive and
our next age SPACE AGE will provide a lifestyle like the Jetson,s and
Starwars, however I think the Startrek senario is too far fetched!
Even to do the seeding as you speak of on other planets.I mean they
would have to evolve from a gaseous state or ice cubes depending on
their distance from the sun!

So your probably right its nothing we can do but enjoy life till its
over and play like there is no threat of extinction! There was a news
deal on tv local tonight that debunked all myths of 2012 being the end
of days! The Myans ran out their calender till the planet alignment
in 21/12/2012 . Isac Newton says none of the signs of times will
happen before the year 2060 nor after..

Well whatever will be will be. The futures not mine to see k said ahh,
said ahh! Hey if I can make it till 2012 without dieing off from all
the man-made viruses and deseases that wont be cured because there is
more money to be made in the treatment than in the cure! I'll get to
see Nibiru light up as if a flick-of-the- bic aint shit<I;-)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739#docid=627379203035980403

joeturn

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Nov 14, 2009, 5:52:33 AM11/14/09
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14 minutes into this vedio says "afte"r the colapse of both towers,
Silverstien(the bennificuary of the insurance policy) ordered the
building 7 pulled!!

That means demolitions had to be put into the Soloman building in a
danger zone within 3 hours!!!!

This was an impossibility unless the explosives were already in place
and the radio detonater malfunctioned and it took someone 3 hours to
replace the faulty RF control device!!

joeturn

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:03:16 AM11/14/09
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I forgot to mention that nibiru is very hot it was on fire a couple of
times but looses its flame as it escapes our milkyway! Jupiter will
also turn into a brown drawf as the usiverse does expand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kX0sLFXR0Q&NR=1

check the 13 bloodlines of the illuminati 16 parts on youtube!

joeturn

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:07:41 AM11/14/09
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forgot to mention that nibiru is very hot it was on fire a couple of
times but looses its flame as it escapes our milkyway! Jupiter will
also turn into a brown drawf as the usiverse does expand.

check the 13 bloodlines of the illuminati 16 parts on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq99snleP4E&NR=1

joeturn

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:55:13 PM11/14/09
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Hot off the Press here is Bush's scapegoat!!

There were 19 terrorist acussed of the 9/11 all suposedly died in the
airliners that crashed into the pentagon,tower1 and tower 2!

Still all the live tv views that day were photoshopped to look like a
plane crash. However you cant see the plane approaching the second
crash site when all the news cameras were viewing every angle!

The pot hole in PA happened on the property of Dick Cheny and the
first coroner said there were no bodies at the site nor plane debree.I
say the CIA brung them with them from Cleveland, Ohio where flight 93
was forced to land because of a bomb on board threat was issued!!

Now there are 4 about to be convicted of a crime they did not commit!

Somebody will rowl the crowd and the whole of NYC will say guilty and
judges gathered bail!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091114/ap_on_go_ot/us_guantanamo_us_trial

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