My car has no cigarette lighter / power socket

[rpgs rock dvds]

Do sat nav devices exist whereby I can bring a box of batteries with
me, and change them every 30-60 minutes, when the device's battery
indicator says "low", without the device losing its memory regarding
my current route? I am in the UK, and considering buying a sat nav
device. Thanks a lot for any ideas.

[Roger Mills]

Are you *sure* that your car has no power socket? Some are hidden behind
flaps,etc. What car is it?

If it *really* has no socket, why not buy something like this:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/5-in-1-jump-starter-with-digital-air-compressor-388125
[That's the first one I could find, but there are cheaper ones without
built-in compressor, etc. - and Maplin often have them on special offer]

That has a large capacity battery (re-chargeable from the mains) which
will keep your satnav going for many many hours.
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[Bert]

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rpgs rock dvds <cccd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks a lot for any ideas.

Does your car have a conventional battery and charging system?

Installing what used to be called a "cigarette lighter" but is now
called a "power port" should be no problem. Do it yourself or have a
friend do it for you.

But first, look around for where your existing port is hidden (as a last
resort, read the owner's manual).

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

[Gene E. Bloch]

A power port and a cigarette lighter socket are actually *not* the same
thing (although very similar).

The lighter socket has a set of grippers at the back that hold the
cigarette lighter in, against the lighter's compression spring. The
grippers are bimetallic, and when the lighter element gets hot enough,
the grippers relax and let the lighter pop put.

The power sockets don't have the grippers.

BTW, I could have gotten for my car a cigarette lighter assembly
(complete with ashtray!) that would sit in a cup holder, but I
definitely didn't want one :-)

I'm speaking for the situation in the USA; I no idea whether it's the
same elsewhere.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Bert]

In news:1c3823as49wp9$.dlg@stumbler1907.invalid "Gene E. Bloch"

<not...@other.invalid> wrote:

> The lighter socket has a set of grippers at the back that hold the
> cigarette lighter in, against the lighter's compression spring. The
> grippers are bimetallic, and when the lighter element gets hot enough,
> the grippers relax and let the lighter pop put.
>
> The power sockets don't have the grippers.

Since (nearly) every power plug in existence today was designed to fit
into a "cigarette lighter" jack, I don't think that the difference, if
any, really matters.

[rpgs rock dvds]

On May 19, 5:48 pm, rpgs rock dvds <cccddd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Do sat nav devices exist whereby I can ... (snipped from my O.P.)

Thanks a lot for everyone's comments above. I have a Nissan Micra,
mark 2. Usually these things have a cig lighter built in to them, but
I've got the cheaper 1.0 model, and it doesn't have one. I was
thinking of the following idea, just as a temp measure. I buy these 2
items spotted on ebay -

200750219655 (12 Volt Battery Clamp Cigarette Lighter Socket)
150820572277 (8 AA 2A Cells Battery 12V Holder Box)

To see these adverts, you can just copy-and-paste those 2 large
numbers in to ebay's search box. I guess the 2A part mentioned in the
holder box's title description means 2 amps. Is that enough I
wonder? Thanks.

Or perhaps I could just simply get a "single block" 12v battery, a bit
similar to a car battery but not as big, which provides more amps?
They seem cheap on ebay, eg some are under £10. Again, I would then
use ebay item number 1 listed above on it, which is the "cig clamp
lead thing".

[Linea Recta]

"Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> schreef in bericht
news:1c3823as49wp9$.dlg@stumbler1907.invalid...

> On 19 May 2012 19:56:41 GMT, Bert wrote:
>
>> In
>> news:2746d33a-d11a-4fda...@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com
>> rpgs rock dvds <cccd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot for any ideas.
>>
>> Does your car have a conventional battery and charging system?
>>
>> Installing what used to be called a "cigarette lighter" but is now
>> called a "power port" should be no problem. Do it yourself or have a
>> friend do it for you.
>>
>> But first, look around for where your existing port is hidden (as a last
>> resort, read the owner's manual).
>
> A power port and a cigarette lighter socket are actually *not* the same
> thing (although very similar).
>
> The lighter socket has a set of grippers at the back that hold the
> cigarette lighter in, against the lighter's compression spring. The
> grippers are bimetallic, and when the lighter element gets hot enough,
> the grippers relax and let the lighter pop put.
>
> The power sockets don't have the grippers.

Don't think that's a problem because a sat nav won't get hot (if all is
well).

>
> BTW, I could have gotten for my car a cigarette lighter assembly
> (complete with ashtray!) that would sit in a cup holder, but I
> definitely didn't want one :-)

No smoking!

>
> I'm speaking for the situation in the USA; I no idea whether it's the
> same elsewhere.

Although I don't smoke, in my Peugeot I even have 2 ligher sockets (or power
port?)


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[Mike Lane]

rpgs rock dvds wrote on May 20, 2012:

> To see these adverts, you can just copy-and-paste those 2 large
> numbers in to ebay's search box. I guess the 2A part mentioned in the
> holder box's title description means 2 amps. Is that enough I
> wonder? Thanks.

2 amps is more than enough for any sat nav. They usually take around 0.5A.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
mike_lane at mac dot com

[Gene E. Bloch]

Try to light a cigarette with one of the new ones.

[Gene E. Bloch]

The grippers are for the cigarette lighters, as I explained.

The new sockets are backwards compatible with plain old power plugs, as
in your automotive GPS.

[rpgs rock dvds]

On May 20, 12:24 pm, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk>
wrote:

> You need something like this: 260865727100. But to avoid fires make sure you
> wire it to some fused point and not directly to the battery. Or connect
> directly to the battery through one of these: 280805421725 on the +ve side.

Ta! :)

[Jack Erbes]

Do you want to use the device for navigation too? Or just be able to
record a continuous track without any stops and restarts?

If the former, get one of the car units (Garmin Nuvi or zumo for
example) that has a built in battery that takes over when the normal
power is lost. Also get a small sealed lead-acid 12V battery like this
one and it will get you though a full day of driving, maybe even two
days, and can be easily recharged overnight with small AC or DC charger.

http://www.batterymart.com/p-12v-2_9ah-sealed-lead-acid-battery.html

If you only want the track data one of the small GPS track loggers (no
display for navigation) will save the track data for several days on a
charge. something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Canmore-GT-730FL-S-Rechargeable-Waypoints-Compatible/dp/B002UWKUZQ/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8

Don't buy it as a "security store", they seem to grossly overprice them
because the folks that are fervently trying to catch their
spouses/kids/employees doing something wrong makes them will to pay
almost any price.

Most track logs in consumer handheld and automotive GPS receivers will
stop adding track points to a track when the movement ceases and resume
logging point when movement starts again. So if you look at a track
later you will have continuous track with a time gap where it did not
record stationary points.

If you stop the device it will normally end the track segment and start
a new one when it gets a fix again. If those both happen in the same
spot there might be a slight "jump" in the track where first segment
ended and the next began.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jacker at midmaine dot com)
(also receiving email at jackerbes at roadrunner dot com)

[Larry Weil]

In article
<ccce53b5-7988-429a...@8g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,

rpgs rock dvds <cccd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On May 19, 5:48 pm, rpgs rock dvds <cccddd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Do sat nav devices exist whereby I can ... (snipped from my O.P.)
>
> Thanks a lot for everyone's comments above. I have a Nissan Micra,
> mark 2. Usually these things have a cig lighter built in to them, but
> I've got the cheaper 1.0 model, and it doesn't have one. I was
> thinking of the following idea, just as a temp measure. I buy these 2
> items spotted on ebay -
>

I donšt know about in the UK, but here in the US you can buy an
auxiliary socket which can be mounted under the dashboard or another
convenient place in any car at just about any auto-parts store or the
automotive department of just about any discount store like Wal-Mart.
Just make sure therešs an in-line fuse and that if you donšt know how to
wire it correctly to have someone who knows how to do it install it for
you.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH