Poutnik <pou...@privacy.invalid> wrote
> nospam wrote
>> Poutnik <pou...@privacy.invalid> wrote
>>> What defines Android phone ?
>> dalvik/art and the android ecosystem (google play, maps, etc.)
> Dalvik VM yes. All above is just application framework and application
> set.
Still isnt an android phone if it wont even run android apps.
> Various Linux distros with various Linux GUIs ( KDE and
> Gnome as most known but not the only) are still all Linuxes.
But there is more involved with what is an android phone.
> In *some sense*, as there is Red Hat Linux, Mandriva,
> Ubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo and other distros,
That's just the gui.
> there is also Samsung Android, Sony Android, LG Android, and among others
Yes.
> now also Nokia Android.
Nope.
>> there are android forks, such as kindle, that have their own ecosystem.
> Would you call different Linux distros with their ecosystems
> Linux forks ?
No, because they arent forks, just different distros.
> Perhaps the only Genuine Android phones could be those
> made by Google and maybe Samsung reference phones.
No.
>> the fact that the core is linux (and stripped
>> down) does not matter. users never see that.
> What users do not see matters the most.
Not to whether its an android phone or not,
most obviously with a clone that looks like
an android phone but which doesn't even
have linux as the OS.
> OS is not given how it looks, but what is inside.
And what constitutes an android phone involves more than just the OS,
>> android apps are written to android apis and they run in the vm. the
>> linux core could change and users would be none the wiser.
> So, If Linux used GUI that mimicks Explorer.exe, and emulated Windows
> API to run Windows executables, would it be Windows now ? :-)
No, he is wrong there.
> If phone can natively install and run apk applications, using
> Android Linux kernel and Dalvik VM, that it is Android phone.
No, its more complicated than that, most
obviously when the ui is completely different.
> The ecosystems can change.
Separate matter entirely. What Nokia has just announced
is not an ecosystem change, they don't get to change the
android ecosystem. The most they ever get to do is do
something that has its origins in android which isnt an
android phone and that is what they have done with
what they have just announced.