California law and mounting a GPS on the inside of my windshield

[techman41973]

California changed the law on mounting a GPS unit on your windshield,
but the law still seems complicated and limits your options.

(12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted
in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner
of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag
deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door
navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
http://www.ehow.com/about_6513133_california-gps-windshield-law.html
http://www.ehow.com/facts_7419344_california-law-gps-window-locations.html

How many of you use a GPS device and mount it using a suction-cup
windshield mount? Where on the windshield do you mount your unit?
Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks

[jgar the jorrible]

On Apr 12, 5:09 pm, techman41973 <techman41...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> California changed the law on mounting a GPS unit on your windshield,
> but the law still seems complicated and limits your options.
>
> (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted
> in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
> removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner
> of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag
> deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door
> navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.
>  http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
>  http://www.ehow.com/about_6513133_california-gps-windshield-law.html

>  http://www.ehow.com/facts_7419344_california-law-gps-window-locations...

>
> How many of you use a GPS device and mount it using a suction-cup
> windshield mount? Where on the windshield do you mount your unit?
>  Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks

Doesn't seem overly complicated to me. It's just saying it has to be
down in the corner, instead of in the middle of everything like some
idjits do it. Of course, I don't have one, mine are all built in or
in my phone.

Even with all the regulations, I still wind up at stoplights where I
can't see the light from a normal seating position. I can think of
one left turn lane where there is a sign for the other direction
traffic that blocks the view of the signal. (Where the black SUV is,
if I got the link right:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=vista+way+and+melrose,+vista,+ca&hl=en&ll=33.196395,-117.251842&spn=0.011025,0.022724&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.581364,93.076172&t=h&safe=active&hnear=W+Vista+Way+%26+Melrose+Plaza+Dr,+Vista,+San+Diego,+California+92083&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.196395,-117.251842&panoid=w1V8si5uUKOeNa3JphEpsg&cbp=12,235.18,,0,0
)

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/12/not-guilty-plea-deadly-crash/

[Paul D. DeRocco]

> "techman41973" <techma...@yahoo.com> wrote

>
> (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted
> in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
> removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner
> of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag
> deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door
> navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.

What does that last clause mean? That you can only mount the device there
while you're obeying turn-by-turn directions from the device, but can't
mount it there if you simply want to be able to look at a map and find your
own way?

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pder...@ix.netcom.com

[Stephen H. Fischer]

Hi,

The wording says to me that only large delivery trucks will meet the
requirements. FedX, UPS, USPS ...

I have my GPS mounted below the windshield and it works well there. UMMV
(Delorme PN-60)

http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=10095

shows the gripper mount, I found a different base that the gripper mates
with and my Van Conversion shop mounted it to a air duct.

SHF

"Paul D. DeRocco" <pder...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:avOdnf9CTojQMhrS...@earthlink.com...

[Hans-Georg Michna]

After early experiments with suction cup windshield mounts I now
always mount the device, typically a smartphone, in a holder
that hooks on to an air vent. This has a whole range of
advantages, so much so that attaching one to the windshield
seems like a truly bad idea.

Would that not be allowed in California?

Hans-Georg

[Peter Lawrence]

On 4/12/12 5:09 PM, techman41973 wrote:
>
> California changed the law on mounting a GPS unit on your windshield,
> but the law still seems complicated and limits your options.

It's not complicated at all. You're allowed to mount your GPS on the lower
corner of your windshield (either side).

Of course if you're a solo driver, it doesn't really make sense to mount it
on the lower corner of the passenger side.


- Peter

[Holger Issle]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:56:39 -0700, Peter Lawrence wrote:

>Of course if you're a solo driver, it doesn't really make sense to mount it
>on the lower corner of the passenger side.

And the text says that a device is allowed in the lower left corner of
the windshield, given it is completely within a 5 inch range of that
corner? With other words, many combinations of flat-angled windshields
and devices are not legal, because even these are less than 5 inch
wide they will not fit in that range as the windshield is monuted flat
and the real corner can't be used.

On the other side: I was in California often enough and never had any
trouble with that.
--

Ciao,
Holger (GUS-KOTAL, GUS#1100, GRR#51)

90-92 Honda CB400 10 Mm | 93-95 Yamaha TDM 850 26 Mm
95-97 KTM 620 LC4 13 Mm | seit 97 BMW R1100GS 81 Mm (Die Renndrecksau!)

cu @ http://www.issle.de

[Paul D. DeRocco]

> "Holger Issle" <Hol...@Issle.de> wrote

>
> And the text says that a device is allowed in the lower left corner of
> the windshield, given it is completely within a 5 inch range of that
> corner? With other words, many combinations of flat-angled windshields
> and devices are not legal, because even these are less than 5 inch
> wide they will not fit in that range as the windshield is monuted flat
> and the real corner can't be used.

Simple, just mount it on the outside.

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/12/2012, jgar the jorrible posted:

> On Apr 12, 5:09 pm, techman41973 <techman41...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> California changed the law on mounting a GPS unit on your windshield,
>> but the law still seems complicated and limits your options.
>>
>> (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted
>> in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
>> removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner
>> of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag
>> deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door
>> navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.
>>  http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
>>  http://www.ehow.com/about_6513133_california-gps-windshield-law.html
>>  http://www.ehow.com/facts_7419344_california-law-gps-window-locations...
>>
>> How many of you use a GPS device and mount it using a suction-cup
>> windshield mount? Where on the windshield do you mount your unit?
>>  Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks

> Doesn't seem overly complicated to me. It's just saying it has to be
> down in the corner, instead of in the middle of everything like some
> idjits do it. Of course, I don't have one, mine are all built in or
> in my phone.

> Even with all the regulations, I still wind up at stoplights where I
> can't see the light from a normal seating position. I can think of
> one left turn lane where there is a sign for the other direction
> traffic that blocks the view of the signal. (Where the black SUV is,
> if I got the link right:

[clipped long link because my newsreader semms to have mangled it :-)]

> jg

Suggestion: for long links, use http://tinyurl.com or http://bit.ly

The result is a couple of dozen characters long with no more worries.
The sites are easy to use.

Example: here's the tinyURL of your long link:
http://tinyurl.com/7s3b2cr

343 characters reduced to 26 and no clipping...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/12/2012, Paul D. DeRocco posted:

I read it as "while the motor vehicle is being operated" don't use it
for anything other than "door-to-door navigation".

And while the motor vehicle is not being operated, no restrictions.

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/14/2012, Hans-Georg Michna posted:

The only restrictions are on windshield mounting. Non-windshield mounts
are not restricted.

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/16/2012, Paul D. DeRocco posted:

>> "Holger Issle" <Hol...@Issle.de> wrote
>>
>> And the text says that a device is allowed in the lower left corner of
>> the windshield, given it is completely within a 5 inch range of that
>> corner? With other words, many combinations of flat-angled windshields
>> and devices are not legal, because even these are less than 5 inch
>> wide they will not fit in that range as the windshield is monuted flat
>> and the real corner can't be used.

> Simple, just mount it on the outside.

Best idea yet :-)

I use a rubberized pad with a GPS mount on it. I set it on top of the
dashboard to the right of the steering wheel, where it's easy to see
and doesn't block anything. It's legal, but it does vibrate a little.

[jgar the jorrible]

On Apr 19, 11:15 am, Gene E. Bloch <blochx...@someplace.invalid>
wrote:

> On 4/12/2012, jgar the jorrible posted:
>
>
>
>

> > jg
>
> Suggestion: for long links, usehttp://tinyurl.comorhttp://bit.ly

>
> The result is a couple of dozen characters long with no more worries.
> The sites are easy to use.
>
> Example: here's the tinyURL of your long link:http://tinyurl.com/7s3b2cr
>
> 343 characters reduced to 26 and no clipping...
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Some places block shorteners. Some funny people put in goatse.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-448362/Hitlers-Mercedes-sale-decades-vanished.html

[John David Galt]

> Example: here's the tinyURL of your long link:

No one in his right mind trusts URL shorteners, no matter who sent them.

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/20/2012, John David Galt posted:

>> Example: here's the tinyURL of your long link:

> No one in his right mind trusts URL shorteners, no matter who sent them.

You needn't trust - it's trivially easy to verify.

Of course, what you get is an expanded URL, just like the one you would
have seen in the absence of a tiny URL. But you still have to figure
out whether to trust the long version.

Basically, your remark was silly...

[Paul D. DeRocco]

> "John David Galt" <j...@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote

>
> No one in his right mind trusts URL shorteners, no matter who sent them.

With tinyurl, all you have to do is edit the URL and prepend "preview.",
e.g.,

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7s3b2cr

[Hans-Georg Michna]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:18:10 -0700, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:

> "John David Galt" <j...@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote

>> No one in his right mind trusts URL shorteners, no matter who sent them.

>With tinyurl, all you have to do is edit the URL and prepend "preview.",
>e.g.,
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/7s3b2cr

That's nice, but then everybody would have to know every such
preview trick for every URL shortener system in existence.

I agree that they should not be used at all.

Hans-Georg

[Joe Makowiec]

On 21 Apr 2012 in alt.satellite.gps, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:

> That's nice, but then everybody would have to know every such
> preview trick for every URL shortener system in existence.

At least with tinyurl, you can go to the site (http://tinyurl.com/) and
tell it that you always want to use preview.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/21/2012, Joe Makowiec posted:

> On 21 Apr 2012 in alt.satellite.gps, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:

>> That's nice, but then everybody would have to know every such
>> preview trick for every URL shortener system in existence.

> At least with tinyurl, you can go to the site (http://tinyurl.com/) and
> tell it that you always want to use preview.

Don't forget what I said upthread: even a full URL can lead to bad
things :-)

Sometimes I post both the tinyURL and the full URL, sometimes I use the
preview form, and sometimes I choose not to worry about the people who
can't or won't trust me.

[The Real Bev]

On 04/21/2012 03:50 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> On 4/21/2012, Joe Makowiec posted:
>> On 21 Apr 2012 in alt.satellite.gps, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
>
>>> That's nice, but then everybody would have to know every such
>>> preview trick for every URL shortener system in existence.
>
>> At least with tinyurl, you can go to the site (http://tinyurl.com/) and
>> tell it that you always want to use preview.
>
> Don't forget what I said upthread: even a full URL can lead to bad
> things :-)

Like this one: http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

> Sometimes I post both the tinyURL and the full URL, sometimes I use the
> preview form, and sometimes I choose not to worry about the people who
> can't or won't trust me.

--

Cheers, Bev
---------------------------------------------------
I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's
a bunny with a pancake on his head:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/misc15.jpg

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/22/2012, The Real Bev posted:

>> Don't forget what I said upthread: even a full URL can lead to bad
>> things :-)

> Like this one: http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

Excellent example.

[jgar the jorrible]

How do you know someone won't change the redirect afterwards? Of
course, any domain could be poisoned/redirected/sold, but isn't it
less likely for a google than some effing LIBYAN domain‽

For those who missed it, slashdot started displaying the domain name
next to links in comments because of link abuse.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/03/25/0039257/nhtsa-suggestion-would-cripple-in-car-gps-displays#comments

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 4/23/2012, jgar the jorrible posted:

> On Apr 20, 5:49 pm, Gene E. Bloch <blochx...@someplace.invalid> wrote:
>> On 4/20/2012, John David Galt posted:
>>
>>>> Example: here's the tinyURL of your long link:
>>> No one in his right mind trusts URL shorteners, no matter who sent them.
>>
>> You needn't trust - it's trivially easy to verify.
>>
>> Of course, what you get is an expanded URL, just like the one you would
>> have seen in the absence of a tiny URL. But you still have to figure
>> out whether to trust the long version.
>>
>> Basically, your remark was silly...
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

> How do you know someone won't change the redirect afterwards? Of
> course, any domain could be poisoned/redirected/sold, but isn't it
> less likely for a google than some effing LIBYAN domain‽

So stick to tinyURL, install some heavy duty AV software, and buy or
make a tinfoil hat.[1]

> For those who missed it, slashdot started displaying the domain name
> next to links in comments because of link abuse.

> jg

[1] Not sure how sarcastic I am really feeling (it's non-zero), but at
least I should thank you for the chance to generate the above remark
:-)

[jgar the jorrible]

'sOK, glad to be stimulating, Shirley. Copper mesh works better, btw.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joel_garry/7104597325/

[Gene E. Bloch]

Thanks for the tip about copper mesh. I'll be signing off now to go to
Home Depot :-)

[Hank J.]

techman41973 wrote:

> Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks

I was pulled over for a different offense and warned
about the GPS.

It's an idiotic law, that I can't find in any other state
than in the RepubliK of Kalifornia.


--
"Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it." (Twain)

[The Real Bev]

On 03/04/2013 10:31 AM, Hank J. wrote:

> techman41973 wrote:
>
>> Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks
>
> I was pulled over for a different offense and warned
> about the GPS.
>
> It's an idiotic law, that I can't find in any other state
> than in the RepubliK of Kalifornia.

You can put it in a 7" square on the lower corner (can't remember which
one) of your windshield. Stupid, it blocks vision there. I'd stick it
high up where it wouldn't get in the way of anything except low-flying
helicopters and airplanes, but as it is I just set it on the console
where I can't see it at all :-(


--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built
into the User?" -- Steve Shaw, regarding Win95

[Bert]

In news:kh2pai$cdo$1...@news.albasani.net "Hank J."

<noemails...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's an idiotic law, that I can't find in any other state
> than in the RepubliK of Kalifornia.

Minnesota used to have one, but it was changed in 2009, adding this
exception:

(iv) global positioning systems or navigation systems when mounted or
located near the bottommost portion of the windshield;

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

[Bert]

In news:8rnhj852iqnh4lgcv...@4ax.com "Anthony R. Gold"
<not-fo...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> Is "near" a defined term under Minnesota law?

Of course not; the laws are written by idiots, as in any other state.

[Hans-Georg Michna]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:31:46 +0000 (UTC), Hank J. wrote:

>techman41973 wrote:

>> Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks

>I was pulled over for a different offense and warned
>about the GPS.
>
>It's an idiotic law, that I can't find in any other state
>than in the RepubliK of Kalifornia.

A remark on the sidelines---I find that mounting a GPS, or my
smartphone these days---on the windshield is not a good idea
anyway. I now always mount such a device in front of an air
vent.

Nice holders are available. They hook into the vent grid, which
has the positive side effect that the device gets cooled when
you open the air flow.

Just be careful not to let hot air blow on it.

The advantages are many. Your view is not blocked. You don't
have the device in front of a very bright background, which
would often make it difficult to read. It is closer to your eyes
and hands and thus easier to see and reach. It does not fall
off, like suction cups sometimes do, particularly in
temperatures below freezing, possibly with traces of ice on the
windshield. You don't have an additional, dangling power cable
in front of part of the windshield. Etc.

Hans-Georg

[rhonda...@gmail.com]

This was very helpful. Thank you very much for posting.

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:09:57 PM UTC-7, techman41973 wrote:
> California changed the law on mounting a GPS unit on your windshield,
>
> but the law still seems complicated and limits your options.
>
>
>
> (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted
>
> in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
>
> removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner
>
> of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag
>
> deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door
>
> navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.
>
> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
>
> http://www.ehow.com/about_6513133_california-gps-windshield-law.html
>
> http://www.ehow.com/facts_7419344_california-law-gps-window-locations.html
>
>
>
> How many of you use a GPS device and mount it using a suction-cup
>
> windshield mount? Where on the windshield do you mount your unit?
>

[vnr...@yahoo.com]

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:09:57 PM UTC-7, techman41973 wrote:
> California changed the law on mounting a GPS unit on your windshield, but the law still seems complicated and limits your options. (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm http://www.ehow.com/about_6513133_california-gps-windshield-law.html http://www.ehow.com/facts_7419344_california-law-gps-window-locations.html How many of you use a GPS device and mount it using a suction-cup windshield mount? Where on the windshield do you mount your unit? Have you ever been warned or fined by police? Thanks

I was stopped by a police officer on a motorcycle while making a right turn on an intersection where a sign said "No Right Turn On Red". While he was about to right a citation against me he noticed my GPS was on the far lower left hand corner of my windshield. He told me that was illegal. I told him under California law that was considered legal and it was not obstracting anything. He told me I must remove it but just a warning. Well I fought the ticket he wrote against me for making a "No Right Turn On Red" via Trial by Written Declaration and won. Needless to say from the time he wrote the ticket and the time I got my money was total of nine months. I still mount my GPS on the lower left hand side of the windshield.

[margo...@cox.net]

Doesn't mounting it on your air vent tend to break the air vent eventually? I have an old Mercedes that I want to keep in pristine shape, and I'm afraid to break a fin on the vent if I mount a phone on it.
If you know a mounting kit that seems like it would not hurt the air vent, I'd love to know which brand, model, and where to buy one.
Thanks.

[Hans-Georg Michna]

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 08:03:36 -0800 (PST), margo...@cox.net
wrote:

>Doesn't mounting it on your air vent tend to break the air vent eventually? I have an old Mercedes that I want to keep in pristine shape, and I'm afraid to break a fin on the vent if I mount a phone on it.
>If you know a mounting kit that seems like it would not hurt the air vent, I'd love to know which brand, model, and where to buy one.

I have been using air vent holders for a long time in at least
half a dozen different types of car and have never had any
severe problem with them. I have never broken an air vent.

That said, there are a few potential problems. Some air vent
holders are a bit difficult to remove. If the clamps are tight,
trying to pull them out could break the air vent. I use one type
where I have to spread the clamps with a screwdriver to pull it
off without breaking anything.

Another problem is hot air, but that's a problem for the
smartphone, not for the air vent. If I cannot or do not want to
prevent hot air coming from the vent, I have to use a holder
that hangs low, so at worst only a small part of the phone gets
heated.

Fortunately smartphones are fairly resistant to heat. As long as
the phone can be touched without burning your fingers, it may
automatically take defensive measures against the heat, the
worst being an emergency shutdown, but it is unlikely to break.

Hans-Georg

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of <vj5ce9po4hhmuncj1...@4ax.com>,

Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgN...@michna.com> said:

>Fortunately smartphones are fairly resistant to heat. As long as
>the phone can be touched without burning your fingers, it may
>automatically take defensive measures against the heat, the
>worst being an emergency shutdown, but it is unlikely to break.

However, heat will cost you battery life, especially if the phone is
charging at the same time (since this pushes the battery hotter, while
hot air blowing on it reduces the device's ability to dissipate heat.

How significant the effect is will depend on the battery's specific
chemistry.

--
If a stealth bomber crashes in a forest, will it make a sound?

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:07:57 -0800
DevilsPGD <booga...@crazyhat.net> wrote:

Hello DevilsPGD,

>However, heat will cost you battery life, especially if the phone is
>charging at the same time (since this pushes the battery hotter, while
>hot air blowing on it reduces the device's ability to dissipate heat.

Do what I do; Close down the vent that the device is attached to. Not
a 100% fix, as there's a small amount of leakage from the vent still,
but it does reduce the airflow in that area greatly.

Of course, this is only necessary if the heater is actually on. In
summer when the aircon is on, I open the vent.

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
I guess I shouldn't have strangled her to death
Ugly - The Stranglers

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of <20140131063...@abydos.stargate.org.uk>,

Brad Rogers <yoss...@inbox.com> said:

>On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:07:57 -0800
>DevilsPGD <booga...@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>Hello DevilsPGD,
>
>>However, heat will cost you battery life, especially if the phone is
>>charging at the same time (since this pushes the battery hotter, while
>>hot air blowing on it reduces the device's ability to dissipate heat.
>
>Do what I do; Close down the vent that the device is attached to. Not
>a 100% fix, as there's a small amount of leakage from the vent still,
>but it does reduce the airflow in that area greatly.

Whether you can do this or not depends on the design of your vent and
the phone clip you're using, some attach to the vent in such a way that
you can't close it.

>Of course, this is only necessary if the heater is actually on. In
>summer when the aircon is on, I open the vent.

--

"Thank god we dodged a bullet, the republicans got in and then the
war started... God knows if Al Gore was elected, what, we'd all be
reading the Quran right now?"
-- Bill Maher

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 20:33:19 -0800

DevilsPGD <booga...@crazyhat.net> wrote:

Hello DevilsPGD,

>Whether you can do this or not depends on the design of your vent and
>the phone clip you're using, some attach to the vent in such a way that
>you can't close it.

There's always something, isn't there? :-(

I've never had problems, but then, my GPS only gets mounted in two or
three vehicles, and I've never checked out others for feasibility.

Still, if the possibility exists.....

--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"

Black man got a lot of problems, but he don't mind throwing a brick
White Riot - The Clash

[liqui...@gmail.com]

On Friday, April 20, 2012 5:12:56 PM UTC-7, John David Galt wrote:
> > Example: here's the tinyURL of your long link:
>
>
>
> No one in his right mind trusts URL shorteners, no matter who sent them.

Incorrect.

[The Real Bev]

My grandson broke some of the fins on the air vent of my 1988 Eldorado
just re-aiming it. The plastic elements are becoming brittle, the cloth
of the headliner is no longer attached to the substrate, and I wouldn't
dream of trying to attach anything to the vents.

I inherited the car so it has great sentimental value. Otherwise it's a
POS.

I regard the GPS as a passenger-only device.

--
Cheers, Bev
===============================
Buckle Up. It makes it harder for the aliens
to suck you out of your car.

[Rod Speed]

The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote

> margo...@cox.net wrote

>> Doesn't mounting it on your air vent tend to break the air vent
>> eventually? I have an old Mercedes that I want to keep in pristine
>> shape, and I'm afraid to break a fin on the vent if I mount a phone
>> on it. If you know a mounting kit that seems like it would not hurt
>> the air vent, I'd love to know which brand, model, and where to buy
>> one. Thanks.

> My grandson broke some of the fins on the air vent of my 1988 Eldorado
> just re-aiming it. The plastic elements are becoming brittle, the cloth
> of the headliner is no longer attached to the substrate, and I wouldn't
> dream of trying to attach anything to the vents.

> I inherited the car so it has great sentimental value. Otherwise it's a
> POS.

> I regard the GPS as a passenger-only device.

Then you are a fool.