LOONEY T. CASEY BRENNAN -- SATANIC RED!
Lunatic Asylum
For those in this forum that are in the medical field, you'll note that this
person has the markers for paranoid schizophrenia (my self-admitted
uninformed opinion, be your own judge). Persecution complex, fragmentary
relationships, self-aggrandizement ("in 1998 WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA"),
homelessness are all part of the constellation of symptoms of
schizo-affective disorders.
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:aPCvNrkpTHcJ:dev.null.org/psychoceramic
s/archives/1998.06/msg00051.html+J.H.+Earnshaw+of+Port+Hope,+Michigan&hl=en&
ie=UTF-8
Kinda sad Parole uses this nutcase as an example of one of the ''better
known'' Satanic Reds members.
psychoceramics: hmmm....
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From: TCasey Brennan <spec...@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Caveat Lector!
T. Casey Brennan (in 1998 WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA)
317 S. Division St., No. 181
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2203 USA
Dear International Labor Organization:
I am sending copies of this e-mailing to a wide variety of e-mail
addresses, including that of the law firm which has formerly acted on my
behalf, the World Health Organization and American Psychiatric
Association, noted herein, selected law enforcement offices, and
international agencies, including the New Orleans District Attorney's
Office. I am writing this to protest the poor treatment received by
former World Health Organization official Peter Ozorio as noted at these
postings by the ILO:
http://www.ilo.org/public/english/290trib/fulltext/1438.htm
http://www.ilo.org/public/english/290trib/fulltext/1367.htm
I would also like to point out a further factor in Mr. Ozorio's case,
which the ILO surely has not considered. In the October 1983 (page 30)
and January-February 1986 (page 9) of WHO's WORLD HEALTH magazine, Mr.
Ozorio wrote about my supposed campaign to ban the portrayal of smoking
in comic books, and, in each case, sent me a check from a UN bank
account in Zurich for my providing research for the articles. The
articles followed accounts of my work in CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE,
Vol. 128, No. 131. September 28, 1982, page S12435, and preceded
numerous legislative and gubernatorial documents in my honor, including
a Proclamation designating January 1990 as T. CASEY BRENNAN MONTH in the
State of Arkansas, signed by then Arkansas Governor, Bill Clinton.
**Unfortunately, Peter Ozorio was aware that throughout this supposed
anti-smoking campaign, I was penniless, living in homeless shelters and
eating at free meals, and was in desperate need of employment. Add to
that the fact that **my family had been tortured and killed,** I had
suffered crippling injuries as a result of an attack (see the newspaper
article at the T. CASEY BRENNAN ARCHIVE), and was being refused any kind
of welfare or medical treatment, and you have a pretty good idea of how
much **Peter Ozorio knew about a matter directly related to the Kennedy
assassination.**
**I am partially amnesiac before 1975, but I'm reasonably certain I shot
John Kennedy, under the direction of osteopathic physician and
hypnotist, J.H. Earnshaw of Port Hope, Michigan. I've dealt with the
matter in CONJURELLA at...***
http://www.fringeware.com/~hambone/mail/conjurella.html
These are the T. CASEY BRENNAN Fan pages (about me, not by me), from
California, Canada and Texas...
http://www.mk.net/~mcf/victm-hm.htm#Brennan
http://www.mgl.ca/~dvanhorn/creators/tcasey/tcasey.htm
http://www.mgl.ca/~dvanhorn/creators/tcasey/tcasey2.htm
http://www.fringeware.com/~hambone/mail/tcasey.html
The last address, the Texas T. CASEY BRENNAN ARCHIVE, deals with the
disappearance of Katherine Schlorke, who should be considered a
witness if CONJURELLA is true. By the account given me, she was
ordered committed to a mental health institution during the Garrison
investigation. She was dragged from her home screaming "Casey shot
President Kennedy", whereupon she then "disappeared into the mental
health system", and her family has not been able to contact her since.
This matter should not be considered unconnected with the
well-documented CIA MK-ULTRA experiments in Toronto in the late 1950s,
predating the JFK assassination, and discussed at length in the American
Psychiatric Association volume, PSYCHIATRY & THE CIA, by Harvey M.
Weinstein.
**I would like the ILO to reconsider Mr. Ozorio's case in the light of
what he truly is, a Kennedy witness. The American Osteopathic
Association is receiving a copy of this mailing, as well as several
e-mail addresses applicable to the Kennedy family.**
Sincerely,
T. Casey Brennan
See articles on my work in UN/WHO's WORLD HEALTH magazine, October
1983, page 30, and January-February 1986, page 9. See also VAMPIRELLA
OF DRAKULON #1-3, Harris Comics, 1996, and, on the net, "A Boy and His
Aardvark", drawn by the internationally acclaimed creator of Cerebus the
Aardvark, Dave Sim:
http://www.mgl.ca/~dvanhorn/DaveandGer/powerfirst.htm
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writer, of course you realize? He does it tongue in cheek, and makes it seem
it's real, and it's all part of the story. It's very Lovecraftian in a way.
"Lunatic Asylum" <isho...@nutty.org> wrote in message
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Harry Lime, King of The Pinky-Dicked Klip-klops
> That's just part of a series of stories he does. It's hilarious IMO. He's
a
> writer, of course you realize? He does it tongue in cheek, and makes it
seem
> it's real, and it's all part of the story. It's very Lovecraftian in a
way.
Hilarous for all the wrong reasons. Is this why he posts in The Mind Control
Forum? Here's the link: http://mindcontrolforums.com/tc/tcasey.html
Here's some fun stuff from Mind Control Forum's gateway page:
"We have added Totally Anonymous, Untraceable Questionnaire
for Mind Control/Electronic Harassment PERPETRATORS"
This whole site is about ritual abuse survivors and other assorted loonies,
like Satanic Retard and overall lunatic and LaRouchie Walter (nee Bowart)
Alter:
Feb 09, 2002
This is Edmund J. Light, creator and first webmaster of the "Mind Control
Forum" web site.
At a time when I thought I was the only electronically tortured mind control
victim, I heard an interview with mind control author ***Walter Bowart*** on
Pacifica radio station KPFK in Los Angeles, California. I joined WB's
organization, the Freedom of Thought Foundation, and started the web site as
the FTF site. However WB suggested that I do it independently, which I did
for a couple of years. Eventually there were something like 80 victims'
accounts on the site, and the E-mail I was getting overwhelmed me, so I had
to quit.
Fortunately, Carrie Dawn of MTC took over the webmaster duties and
eventually handed them over to "Heart7." These are the only people I
authorize to work on the site, especially since so many victims have
entrusted their accounts to it. The original url of the MCF,
www.mk.net/~mcf, now refers visitors to Heart7's MCF site.
- Ed Light m...@mk.net
Source: http://mindcontrolforums.com/#Introduction
I wonder what people at the the Freedom of Thought Foundation would think if
they knew Walter was a former Setian and current Satanic Retard?
It's not all an act Parole as the webpage demonstrates.
Regards,
Harry Lime
http://harrylime.biz
Doctor Nope
whine about, how did the Satanic Reds come to own such a vast tract of real
estate in that rather large, misshapen head of yours?
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Prole
You don't know the man. We do. Only the complete idiots believe it - but
the bigger idiots think he's doing anything other than gasslighting.
We are pleased to display
He's done much getter than post to weird forums. He's done better than you
ever did with offline supreme gasslights. As I said, a good tongue in check
is always one that's convincing. He's a long time SR Comrade.
Stay tuned for updates on the long, ongoing cosmic investigation into the
real murder of JFK. Excuse the delays, but such stenuous and all pervading
investigations into such a mystery do take time.
Enjoy yourself - or don't. I thought you were a sucker. Now I know you are.
Brendan (Prole).
"Harry Lime, King of The Pinky-Dicked Klip-klops"
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Prole
Brendan (Prole)
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> I'll repeat myself. This is all his re-definition of the word gasslight.
> You don't know the man. We do. Only the complete idiots believe it - but
> the bigger idiots think he's doing anything other than gasslighting.
>
> We are pleased to display
>
> http://TCaseyBrennan.knows.it
>
> He's done much getter than post to weird forums. He's done better than
you
> ever did with offline supreme gasslights. As I said, a good tongue in
check
> is always one that's convincing. He's a long time SR Comrade.
Well, I don't participate in "offline supreme gasslights" Parole. They are a
waste of time.
Here's a choice bit of info from the hastily put together website you
suggested:
"Later that year, in the fall, I believe, the Jayatirtha temples made
national news when they were raided, and LSD, marijuana, and cocaine, plus a
half million dollars in British and American currency were seized. The
story was carried in USA TODAY, and the San Francisco papers, and safely
back in Ann Arbor, I saw footage of a hooded Jayatirtha in custody on
television. Amazingly, there was no trial to follow, and no mention of the
raid in the later books and articles chronicling criminality in the Krishna
movement, though numerous pages are devoted to his LSD usage and sales. The
raid and its consequences have simply ceased to be. History has been
rewritten, even by ISKCON's self-professed staunchest critics. Several
years later, Jayatirtha was found murdered in England, his head cut off, and
a knife driven into his chest. A berserk former devotee was arrested
and committed to a mental institution. No credibility was assigned to the
theory that Jayatirtha had been **murdered by the CIA for becoming too
indiscreet with the LSD they had helped prepare for him at CIA LSD
laboratories***...the raid was not the reason, after all, it had never
happened. Those who persisted in this account were told what was, they
said, the REAL story. In hushed tones, they told what they said was the
SECRET truth; the berserk devotee who had killed Jayatirtha had been
inspired, not by the CIA, but by Jayatirtha's WIFE, whom he was in the
process of leaving. **And after the CIA blew Kurt Cobain's head off for the
exact same reason, they told the exact same story about HIS wife. The names
were changed, but the story the same, but then, I said there was a second
dream, didn't I?"**
You'll note the "**" to make it easier to read the looney statements above.
So the CIA murdered a Krishna guru that was involved in selling cannabis and
LSD? Why? Because the CIA helped prepare it for him at "CIA LSD labs"? The
LSD the CIA did use in experiments in the 1960s was produced by Sandoz
directly and they didn't need clandestine laboratories. Oh, and the CIA
murdered Kurt Cobain for "the exact same reason"? LOLOLOLOLOLOL. All this
time, I thought it was Courtney Love.
Of course at the bottom of this mess is a link to the Satanic Retards. You
have a fellow that was a former drug abusing, Krishna looney in your
organization, "satirical" or not? He claims this kookiness is "slightly
fictionalized". You must be proud. Just claiming this is parody doesn't
negate the fact that this fellow has claimed to be part of the Kennedy
assassination, homeless, paranoid, and delusional. These are all part of the
constellation of symptoms of schizoaffective disorder. T. Casey Brennan is
a loon and needs medical treatment.
Except from his letter to Clinton about the JFK assassination:
"The allegation in CONJURELLA is that I was kidnapped in 1963, after 10
years of programming, and forced by David Ferrie to initiate the firing in
Dallas. **I regret both that I initially fictionalized this work to a very
small degree, and that my work has been promoted exclusively by Internet
sensation-mongers, unaware of the seriousness of my statements.** I am
sending this to the current Governor of Arkansas, and to the Attorney
General. I am willing to make formal statements, to take lie detector tests,
and to testify before Congress on my unwilling involvement with the JFK
assassination, at the behest of MK-ULTRA.
I would be greatly interested in your support."
So the guy is "serious" about these JFK/Assassination claims? But when
confronted by this abject nuttiness, you claim it's just satire, despite the
fact that this fellow has deluged law enforcement, politicians, and other
various and sundry people.
If Brennan wanted to get publicity to bolster his comic book career, there
are much more effective means other than kook rants about massive government
mind-control conspiracies, drug abuse, and religious cults. I'm surprised
he hasn't written anything about UFOs too. LOLOLOLOLOL!
The other question reamins why the Satanic Retards would associate
themselves with such a nutjob? Your organization is exploiting a mentally
ill person that should be under the care of a psychiatrist. Nice job.
Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she made in
this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just kidding"
or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
Regards,
Harry Lime
http://www.harrylime.biz
frees...@www.xs4all.nl
do you expect from an org that has Les Masters and Jessica Garret (aka Lord
Egan's leftovers) as members?
Harry Lime, King of The Pinky-Dicked Klip-klops
Please see inside:
> Oh please Harry! This IS Tani and the Satanic Reds after all. What exactly
>
> do you expect from an org that has Les Masters and Jessica Garret (aka
Lord
>
> Egan's leftovers) as members?
What I didn't think is that they'd be so stupid as to list this JFK
Conspiracy, homeless, nutso comic book writer as an example of some of their
more, dare I say, "elite" members. It's like the Republicans running Hunter
S. Thompson for President. If I were of a more paranoid bent, I'd think the
CoS was in cahoots with the SRs/Tani to act as a clandestine dumping ground
for their more troublesome former members. You couldn't ask for a better way
to give the CoS legitimacy when contrasting the differences between both
groups. Tani is actually helping the CoS with her insane behavior and that
of the Satanic Retard's ''Commissars".
I can understand them not wanting to list Walter Bow'tard as a member due to
his being involved in the whole conspiracy world. How would it look for
Walter being associated with a goofy religious cult dubbed *Satanic* Reds?
Not too good for his organization.
Les is occasionally funny and I don't know too much about Jessica Garret.
Was she really Lard Egan's leftovers? That'd be sad for her.
Regards,
Harry Lime
http://harrylime.biz
>
Kori Houghton
> The other question reamins why the Satanic Retards would associate
> themselves with such a nutjob? Your organization is exploiting a mentally
> ill person that should be under the care of a psychiatrist. Nice job.
The Reds are a virtual flop house for so-called nutjobs. Once again a
suggestion that the Commissar is a true all-purpose org leader: part
fly paper, part lightning rod. And she buzzes and sparks right on
cue, with her sycophantic chorus boys at her side.
Actually, there is an interesting aside to the org Brennan mentioned
in his rant: some of the guru's US followers were involved in
recruiting immigrants from the former USSR to come to the States, on
the basis that they were being politically persecuted for their
vegetarianism. They had (perhaps still have?) a commune in rural
central Pennsylvania (ISKCON, Juniata County). It was fun to observe
the locals and the Krshnas dance around the issue of who was going to
be exploited/exploiter in terms of government $$$$ for helping
immigrants settle in. Supposedly they were all legal, but who knows?
Maybe some Turanian pals of Radu?
> Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she made in
> this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just kidding"
> or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more interesting
than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
Kori
People Commissar
>
>
> Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she made in
> this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just kidding"
> or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
Or that her e-mail address, including IPs that match up to messages she
admits to, are being "spoofed". I suppose the likes of Brendan and Kaiden
buy this sort of crappola. However, I have to wonder why Poodles put up
with this sort of thing for so long. Oh, that's right, never mind.
People Commissar
>
>
> this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just kidding"
> or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
Or that her e-mail address, including IPs that match up to messages she
Harry Lime, King of The Pinky-Dicked Klip-klops
> > The other question reamins why the Satanic Retards would associate
> > themselves with such a nutjob? Your organization is exploiting a
mentally
> > ill person that should be under the care of a psychiatrist. Nice job.
>
> The Reds are a virtual flop house for so-called nutjobs. Once again a
> suggestion that the Commissar is a true all-purpose org leader: part
> fly paper, part lightning rod. And she buzzes and sparks right on
> cue, with her sycophantic chorus boys at her side.
Yeah, this is true. I asked Walter Alter (nee Bow'tard) on several occasions
why he resigned from the ToS and never got a response besides the usual
chorus of "YOU'LL NEVER KNOW, YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND" crapola.
It'd be my guess that it'd be bad for business for his "foundation" that he
associated himself with Aquino due to Dr. Aquino's background in psyops for
the government. Guess he prefers the company of the *Satanic* Retards and
the LaRouchies. Ea$ier picken$. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>
> Actually, there is an interesting aside to the org Brennan mentioned
> in his rant: some of the guru's US followers were involved in
> recruiting immigrants from the former USSR to come to the States, on
> the basis that they were being politically persecuted for their
> vegetarianism. They had (perhaps still have?) a commune in rural
> central Pennsylvania (ISKCON, Juniata County). It was fun to observe
> the locals and the Krshnas dance around the issue of who was going to
> be exploited/exploiter in terms of government $$$$ for helping
> immigrants settle in. Supposedly they were all legal, but who knows?
> Maybe some Turanian pals of Radu?
Gee, all this time I thought the migrated to west Florida and became 7th-Day
Adventist cops. LOLOLOL!
> > Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she made
in
> > this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just
kidding"
> > or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
>
> Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
> Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more interesting
> than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
Funny, with all of her claimed connections with law enforcement types it's
funny that no one that I've checked with has herd of her (pun/bad spelling
intended).
She and Gerbiler freaked out when they thought I was making prank calls to
her home or might toilet paper their retirement village homes or let the air
out of their vehicles' tires. Not the reaction of someone who's been
involved in stuff. A smarter person would get the cops to trace the call and
find out who was doing these pranks. Oh well, I might be wrong.
Harry Krshna, Harry Rama, Harry Shiva
Dev Harry Lime
http://harrylime.biz
Kori Houghton
Yo Harre Harre --
Please see in:
> > The Reds are a virtual flop house for so-called nutjobs. Once again a
> > suggestion that the Commissar is a true all-purpose org leader: part
> > fly paper, part lightning rod. And she buzzes and sparks right on
> > cue, with her sycophantic chorus boys at her side.
>
> Yeah, this is true. I asked Walter Alter (nee Bow'tard) on several occasions
> why he resigned from the ToS and never got a response besides the usual
> chorus of "YOU'LL NEVER KNOW, YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND" crapola.
I could comment, but I will restrain myself.
> It'd be my guess that it'd be bad for business for his "foundation" that he
> associated himself with Aquino due to Dr. Aquino's background in psyops for
> the government. Guess he prefers the company of the *Satanic* Retards and
> the LaRouchies. Ea$ier picken$. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Actually, a ToSser version of what happened with Sir Bow'tard is
online somewhere, in one chapter of Hathor's e-book. There's a link
somewhere in the alt.s archives, IIRC.
> > Actually, there is an interesting aside to the org Brennan mentioned
> > in his rant: some of the guru's US followers were involved in
> > recruiting immigrants from the former USSR to come to the States, on
> > the basis that they were being politically persecuted for their
> > vegetarianism. They had (perhaps still have?) a commune in rural
> > central Pennsylvania (ISKCON, Juniata County). It was fun to observe
> > the locals and the Krshnas dance around the issue of who was going to
> > be exploited/exploiter in terms of government $$$$ for helping
> > immigrants settle in. Supposedly they were all legal, but who knows?
> > Maybe some Turanian pals of Radu?
>
> Gee, all this time I thought the migrated to west Florida and became 7th-Day
> Adventist cops. LOLOLOL!
I only know about the ISKCON Russians because I was a literacy
volunteer at the time (that would be Juniata, not Lancaster, county
for those NG readers who are still obsessing about my identity
confustion) and we all received training in teaching English as a
second language in anticipation. Lots of the other volunteers were
evangelicals, and couldn't wait to proselytize the ISKCONs and save
them from the clutches of Krshna. I only wanted in 'cause I liked
their clothes, and wanted to learn first hand how to wrap a sari. Oh
and (yet another house story for Cat!) my husband and I considered
buying their gorgeous cult HQ when it was up for sale briefly. It was
huge, plus it had a separate artist's studio for my mother. (Mom
didn't like the house; said the location was too remote, thought the
mountain view was depressing (?), so whatever.) Didn't see any
Yuggothic graffiti inside, or any D Docs booklets, so I think the
Commissar is probably not connected to these people -- the house was
no yurt, I assure you!
> > > Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she made
> in
> > > this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just
> kidding"
> > > or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
> >
> > Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
> > Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more interesting
> > than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
>
> Funny, with all of her claimed connections with law enforcement types it's
> funny that no one that I've checked with has herd of her (pun/bad spelling
> intended).
Walter will make sure she keeps her hands clean *^_^*
> She and Gerbiler freaked out when they thought I was making prank calls to
> her home or might toilet paper their retirement village homes or let the air
> out of their vehicles' tires. Not the reaction of someone who's been
> involved in stuff. A smarter person would get the cops to trace the call and
> find out who was doing these pranks. Oh well, I might be wrong.
Sounds like a woman with a past to me. How cool of you to get her
looking over her shoulder! That doesn't happen to the Commissar
nearly enough, else she would think twice (or more) before thrusting
herself and her conspiratorial antics on total strangers.
>
> Harry Krshna, Harry Rama, Harry Shiva
>
> Dev Harry Lime
> http://harrylime.biz
Hare Kori Kori Kori Hare Hare
Harry Lime, King of The Pinky-Dicked Klip-klops
> Yo Harre Harre --
Well, my sweet Lard. Please see inside text:
>
> Please see in:
>
> > > The Reds are a virtual flop house for so-called nutjobs. Once again a
> > > suggestion that the Commissar is a true all-purpose org leader: part
> > > fly paper, part lightning rod. And she buzzes and sparks right on
> > > cue, with her sycophantic chorus boys at her side.
> >
> > Yeah, this is true. I asked Walter Alter (nee Bow'tard) on several
occasions
> > why he resigned from the ToS and never got a response besides the usual
> > chorus of "YOU'LL NEVER KNOW, YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND" crapola.
>
> I could comment, but I will restrain myself.
Oh come on, in the newsgroup of anal expulsives? At least you could post
some convincing lies.
> > It'd be my guess that it'd be bad for business for his "foundation" that
he
> > associated himself with Aquino due to Dr. Aquino's background in psyops
for
> > the government. Guess he prefers the company of the *Satanic* Retards
and
> > the LaRouchies. Ea$ier picken$. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>
> Actually, a ToSser version of what happened with Sir Bow'tard is
> online somewhere, in one chapter of Hathor's e-book. There's a link
> somewhere in the alt.s archives, IIRC.
Yeah, I'm not too interested beyond occasionally irritating Bow'tard and
Tani.
LOLOLOL! Was it in a hospital zone?
>
> > > > Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she
made
> > in
> > > > this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just
> > kidding"
> > > > or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
> > >
> > > Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
> > > Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more interesting
> > > than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
> >
> > Funny, with all of her claimed connections with law enforcement types
it's
> > funny that no one that I've checked with has herd of her (pun/bad
spelling
> > intended).
>
> Walter will make sure she keeps her hands clean *^_^*
I'll take your word for it.
>
> > She and Gerbiler freaked out when they thought I was making prank calls
to
> > her home or might toilet paper their retirement village homes or let the
air
> > out of their vehicles' tires. Not the reaction of someone who's been
> > involved in stuff. A smarter person would get the cops to trace the call
and
> > find out who was doing these pranks. Oh well, I might be wrong.
>
> Sounds like a woman with a past to me. How cool of you to get her
> looking over her shoulder! That doesn't happen to the Commissar
> nearly enough, else she would think twice (or more) before thrusting
> herself and her conspiratorial antics on total strangers.
Tani has an interesting past, but in the interest of, ahem, newsgroup
decorum I'll just keep silent. Tani could use a good 'thrusting' every once
in awhile -- I guess this is why she asks for pics of the SR members'
schlongs in #satanmuse.
BTW, from another thread: If you think you're going to get Tani to admit
that she wrote the material from 1993, guess again. It's her stuff, but I
won't reveal the source -- as I'm fond of saying, "that'd be telling."
Regards,
Harry Lime
People's Commissar
"Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6db9a636.03100...@posting.google.com...
> > > Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
> > > Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more interesting
> > > than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
You can redefine ball busting when I'm in the mood to do that. I do NOT do
that to people I seriously like and respect. I am not carrying on a war
with the CoS. They blamed the SR, called it a plot, for the Gidney thing.
THEY DID that. And it was not said as a joke at all. The person I read
responding to someone saying it - both were serious. It's their allies that
fill their heads up with us. Not the other way around. You know that. You
just deny it because you don't like me, LMAO. Your girly remarks on my
appearance are the best ones - GOD you must be an idiot You know - I can't
stand that girl Lisa that used to post here, but you know what? She's
BEAUTIFUL, like Morgan Fairchild. I don't change what I think
aesthetically or objectively because I don't like a person. I never DID
anything to anyone in the COS. But you know what? They did indeed DO stuff
to people. Even alex at disinfo knows about some seriously WORSE things
than COS files has up there.
Do you have an online account that you use to post to google? Like,
ko...@yahoo.com or something, password "whatever." Now ya see, if you hand
out the account name (which anyone can see) AND the password to that
account, ANYONE from ANYWHERE can go to google and post from it - and it
comes out "your post." See? We used to do that BIG time. You can only do
that kind of thing from the old my-deja or from google because the posts get
on here from a web-based posting thing. Not your own personal newsreader.
> >
> > Funny, with all of her claimed connections with law enforcement types
it's
> > funny that no one that I've checked with has herd of her (pun/bad
spelling
> > intended).
I had a friend who was a cop here. What's the big deal?
>
> Walter will make sure she keeps her hands clean *^_^*
Walter was always and forever left-wing. This is not new. He is on
friendly terms with Dr. A. Is that a problem?
>
>
> Sounds like a woman with a past to me.
You take the word of a delusional nut case that has delusions of power. NO
ONE makes me look over my shoulder, luv. Not even terrorists and a few were
caught not far from where I live. SO WHAT? And I never said he called my
house He never called here. He doesn't have the number.
> > Harry Krshna, Harry Rama, Harry Shiva
OH, now he's gonna obsess over our fun. This man you have taken to (for
now) has no life. But then, neither do you; you are far too petty.
- wolf -
news:H%Zeb.8640$3S....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Do you have an online account that you use to post to google? Like,
> ko...@yahoo.com or something, password "whatever." Now ya see, if you hand
> out the account name (which anyone can see) AND the password to that
> account, ANYONE from ANYWHERE can go to google and post from it - and it
> comes out "your post."
It comes out with Kori's name in the "From" field, but the four numbers
separated with periods that are often embedded in news message headers will
reveal where exactly they were posted from.
- wolf -
Kori Houghton
> Dear Kori:
>
> > Yo Harre Harre --
>
> Well, my sweet Lard. Please see inside text:
LOL, Harry! See in likewise:
> > Please see in:
> >
> > > > The Reds are a virtual flop house for so-called nutjobs. Once again a
> > > > suggestion that the Commissar is a true all-purpose org leader: part
> > > > fly paper, part lightning rod. And she buzzes and sparks right on
> > > > cue, with her sycophantic chorus boys at her side.
> > >
> > > Yeah, this is true. I asked Walter Alter (nee Bow'tard) on several
> occasions
> > > why he resigned from the ToS and never got a response besides the usual
> > > chorus of "YOU'LL NEVER KNOW, YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND" crapola.
> >
> > I could comment, but I will restrain myself.
>
> Oh come on, in the newsgroup of anal expulsives? At least you could post
> some convincing lies.
My problem is that my past bsing on here was too convincing...of
something like my personally twisted point-of-view, who knows? It's
better that I keep my occultnik speculations to myself.
> > > It'd be my guess that it'd be bad for business for his "foundation" that
> he
> > > associated himself with Aquino due to Dr. Aquino's background in psyops
> for
> > > the government. Guess he prefers the company of the *Satanic* Retards
> and
> > > the LaRouchies. Ea$ier picken$. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> >
> > Actually, a ToSser version of what happened with Sir Bow'tard is
> > online somewhere, in one chapter of Hathor's e-book. There's a link
> > somewhere in the alt.s archives, IIRC.
>
> Yeah, I'm not too interested beyond occasionally irritating Bow'tard and
> Tani.
In a nutshell, it suggests that Bow'tard wanted to do for the ToSsers
what he does now for the SRs. I've always been dazed and amused about
how Mr. Conspiracy's words show up on sites along with Curio (or her
fan club, at least) -- all while claiming that he thinks Mike is 'da
man'. Did you see Curio making headlines this week? Looks like
she'll be getting her walking papers later this month, to spread her
light and joy among us again.
Nope. Juniata Co. had only about 20K residents when I lived there, so
had too small a patient population to have a local hospital (closest
one was in the adjoining county to the west). Lots of oldies, though.
Demographic tidbit: my state has the second largest percentage of
seniors in its population, after Florida. It's horrid. I want to
move, but am not sure where to?
> > > > > Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats she
> made
> in
> > > > > this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was "just
> kidding"
> > > > > or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
> > > >
> > > > Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
> > > > Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more interesting
> > > > than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
> > >
> > > Funny, with all of her claimed connections with law enforcement types
> it's
> > > funny that no one that I've checked with has herd of her (pun/bad
> spelling
> > > intended).
> >
> > Walter will make sure she keeps her hands clean *^_^*
>
> I'll take your word for it.
Don't ever do that!
> > > She and Gerbiler freaked out when they thought I was making prank calls
> to
> > > her home or might toilet paper their retirement village homes or let the
> air
> > > out of their vehicles' tires. Not the reaction of someone who's been
> > > involved in stuff. A smarter person would get the cops to trace the call
> and
> > > find out who was doing these pranks. Oh well, I might be wrong.
> >
> > Sounds like a woman with a past to me. How cool of you to get her
> > looking over her shoulder! That doesn't happen to the Commissar
> > nearly enough, else she would think twice (or more) before thrusting
> > herself and her conspiratorial antics on total strangers.
>
> Tani has an interesting past, but in the interest of, ahem, newsgroup
> decorum I'll just keep silent. Tani could use a good 'thrusting' every once
> in awhile -- I guess this is why she asks for pics of the SR members'
> schlongs in #satanmuse.
Hey, I really don't want to know about her past. My current interest
in the Commissar started with curiosity about how/why the CoS decided
to borrow the D.Docs. Makes a great occultnik story, with all the
elements of classic tragedy. This is not a joke, by the way.
> BTW, from another thread: If you think you're going to get Tani to admit
> that she wrote the material from 1993, guess again. It's her stuff, but I
> won't reveal the source -- as I'm fond of saying, "that'd be telling."
>
> Regards,
>
> Harry Lime
I could have guessed that she would never admit it. Found another
copy on a search engine last night. My sales site was down all night
Wednesday for an hour's worth of maintenance (!), so the godz find
work for idle hands.... No problem about you keeping your source
confidential. I have those sources, too.
We Await Silent Tristero's Empire!
Kori
Harry Lime, King of The Pinky-Dicked Klip-klops
Please see inside text:
> >
> > > Yo Harre Harre --
> >
> > Well, my sweet Lard. Please see inside text:
>
> LOL, Harry! See in likewise:
>
> > > Please see in:
> > >
> > > > > The Reds are a virtual flop house for so-called nutjobs. Once
again a
> > > > > suggestion that the Commissar is a true all-purpose org leader:
part
> > > > > fly paper, part lightning rod. And she buzzes and sparks right on
> > > > > cue, with her sycophantic chorus boys at her side.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, this is true. I asked Walter Alter (nee Bow'tard) on several
> > occasions
> > > > why he resigned from the ToS and never got a response besides the
usual
> > > > chorus of "YOU'LL NEVER KNOW, YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND" crapola.
> > >
> > > I could comment, but I will restrain myself.
> >
> > Oh come on, in the newsgroup of anal expulsives? At least you could
post
> > some convincing lies.
>
> My problem is that my past bsing on here was too convincing...of
> something like my personally twisted point-of-view, who knows? It's
> better that I keep my occultnik speculations to myself.
Very well.
>
> > > > It'd be my guess that it'd be bad for business for his "foundation"
that
> > he
> > > > associated himself with Aquino due to Dr. Aquino's background in
psyops
> > for
> > > > the government. Guess he prefers the company of the *Satanic*
Retards
> > and
> > > > the LaRouchies. Ea$ier picken$. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> > >
> > > Actually, a ToSser version of what happened with Sir Bow'tard is
> > > online somewhere, in one chapter of Hathor's e-book. There's a link
> > > somewhere in the alt.s archives, IIRC.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm not too interested beyond occasionally irritating Bow'tard and
> > Tani.
>
> In a nutshell, it suggests that Bow'tard wanted to do for the ToSsers
> what he does now for the SRs. I've always been dazed and amused about
> how Mr. Conspiracy's words show up on sites along with Curio (or her
> fan club, at least) -- all while claiming that he thinks Mike is 'da
> man'. Did you see Curio making headlines this week? Looks like
> she'll be getting her walking papers later this month, to spread her
> light and joy among us again.
I can hardly wait. Didn't she threaten Elton John or somebody like that
lately? You think they'd keep her in a 'happy place'. When I was debating
Walter on this ng about the Frankfurt School, I was rather amused by the
kooky Lyndon LaRouche sources he used as 'evidence' against the
Frankfurters. IMO you couldn't have picked a worse source.
Oh, Lehigh Acres is ''da place'' in Florida. You've got neo-Nazi dance
clubs, and a geriatric population that is easy to ''get in bed with'' as
Tani did with Gerbiler. She profited a $50K from that little association.
Just get yourself some Vicks, some support hose, and lots o' red hair dye
and you'll be amongst the elderly elite.
>
> > > > > > Tani has used this same strategy when confronted with threats
she
> > made
> > in
> > > > > > this newsgroup. When backed into a corner she claims she was
"just
> > kidding"
> > > > > > or people were taking her insane ramblings out of context.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yup, she DOES that. She can BE a BALL BUSTER. LOL Maybe the
> > > > > Commissar and her peeps are involved with stuff lots more
interesting
> > > > > than trying to carry on a one-sided war with the CoS.
> > > >
> > > > Funny, with all of her claimed connections with law enforcement
types
> > it's
> > > > funny that no one that I've checked with has herd of her (pun/bad
> > spelling
> > > > intended).
> > >
> > > Walter will make sure she keeps her hands clean *^_^*
> >
> > I'll take your word for it.
>
> Don't ever do that!
I'll do that.
Remember that Tani stuck her nose up LaVey's rectum as far as humanly
possible. She was a devoted, if not sycophantic, fan. Tani started becoming
acquainted with the Black Pope near the nadir point of his life. He was
suffering financial difficulties, ill health, a crumbling marriage, and he
certainly wasn't on the A list of celebs anymore. The sixties were over and
the only popular interest in the Occult came from the SRA nutters.
Tani has a pretty good knowledge of the Lovecraft scene and I'd guess she
entertained the Black Pope with looney Miskatonic anecdotes, turgid Turanian
tales, and wacky Stalinist extremeism that many of the CoS members, and
others like myself, find amusing. The material that Adam Parfrey publishes
is a good example (i.e. ''Apocalypse Culture''). She did hatchet jobs on
demand against those that critiqued the organization. LaVey's and Tani's
relationship consisted of a weird blend of ''Sunset Boulevard'' and ''All
About Eve.'' My guess is that they needed material to fill TBF and given
Tani and Phil's penchant for Tolstoyesque volume made for a good fit. Both
parties benefitted in various ways from the relationship.
I've never been a member of the CoS; however, I've noticed that the CoS has
often had adherents of the more metaphysical bent. Even though some of the
rituals chant "There is no god but Man," there are still CoS types that want
to indulge in a stripped down form of theistic thinking. Tani and Phil's
writing acknowledges something akin to the ''Force'' metaphor that is
popular in the Star Wars material. No matter how you cut it, it still is
theistic.
In many ways the CoS is quite catholic in its universal appeal to people
with an interest in the Dark Arts. While they claim to appeal to the "Alien
Elite," anybody that can send a $100 check that clears becomes a member.
They don't particularly care what you believe as long as you admire LaVey.
The Dark Doctrines were just another amusing side show that LaVey used to
draw like-minded metaphysical types to his organization.
LaVey is in many ways the Pierce Inverarity of the occult world. Was Pierce
really the inventor of the whole Tristero conspiracy or was it real
underground organization? Likewise, LaVey may have been onto a real force
that could be unleashed through ritualistic psychodrama or could he be just
a slick fellow that sold people a bill-of-goods for his own enrichment and
ego?
The one thing I do know about LaVey is that I sure as hell enjoy what he's
written. Any other guesses are about what he believed are just conjecture
and ultimately irrelevant. Tani and Phil were used and discarded after they
fulfilled their effectiveness and became an embarrassing pain-in-the-ass.
> > BTW, from another thread: If you think you're going to get Tani to admit
> > that she wrote the material from 1993, guess again. It's her stuff, but
I
> > won't reveal the source -- as I'm fond of saying, "that'd be telling."
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Harry Lime
>
> I could have guessed that she would never admit it. Found another
> copy on a search engine last night. My sales site was down all night
> Wednesday for an hour's worth of maintenance (!), so the godz find
> work for idle hands.... No problem about you keeping your source
> confidential. I have those sources, too.
> We Await Silent Tristero's Empire!
Blow the Horn!
Mike Fallopian
http://harrylime.biz
People's Commissar
The four numbers in the IP reveal nothing at all when 17 people doing it
LIVE about 30 minutes from me to 2 hours from me. LMAO. Those would be the
people that came to our parties - AND their friends that had a large sense
of humor who didn't care to have a clue to what it was all about. Btw,
what the hell is a thin black line that popped up across my puter screen,
even on the desk top or over it, even over my juno. It vanished when I
rebooted. What is that? Do you know? (I have a new monitor...)
Anyway, back to the nothing. Now, heh, you probably know we did this. I
told you we were doing it. I even sent emails out with the account names
and passwords. So did the others. All of them were web based, of course.
Perhaps you didn't get that email - or perhaps it got lost with the heap
that got lost when you used that program to "clean up" the puter. Then
again, perhaps you just weren't in on it. Wait, do you remember me ever
asking you to get my emails for me from my-deja because no one here could
get on the website? I also did that - A LOT. Remember the "white pages" I
got? I couldn't get on. So others did. I don't have a problem with
ancient history. When deja went down, we didn't do such things anymore.
OH, but now there is GOOGLE and you sure can do it on there. I MOVE ON.
Every one moves on.
Of all people, heh - you know DAMNED well that the Gilmores handed out info
on people they wanted flamed and simply asked people to GO FLAME them. And,
of course, if NON COS members got in on it, that made it seem all just so
objective - a view from the so-called outsider. They used to accuse the TOS
of doing that when some new anonymous "outside observer" chimed in. And of
course, everyone DENIED it. LMAO. Come on. The "information" that came
from them about the personal doings of Aquino and his wife were over the
top - but no one int he ToS ever refuted it or showed proof it was false
info that I ever saw. B never saw it, either and he WAS online. Casey
actually has NO CLUE what the TOS is or who Aquino is. LMAO. Nonetheless,
she played too. The internet depersonalized people. I asked Brennan to
please remove Aquino from his game since some of that stuff is not just
hokey bullshit, that HAPPENED to the Aquinos for real. He said OK. He
didn't know it really happened to them. It IS kinda over the top, ya
think? That is, what happened is unbelievable for a lot of people. For
instance, I don't see the FBI going after the radicals in MIM at all. Now
if a person in Maoist China were to post radically pro capitalist stuff
advocating the overthrow of Mao or the Gang of Four - then the Maoist
version of the FBI would shoot them for having an opinion. Got any doubts
about that? I don't.
B said he posted the one where I claimed to be a Stalinist. I know I didn't
make the post. It's way too pro. LMAO. I'm a registered republican for
shit's sakes. He also posted all those "man is ONLY ONLY ONLY JUST an
animal" and NOTHING ELSE posts. So did Casey. So did Karl, but he never
claimed to be speaking for me as far as I know. But, Roots One refutes
that. Man also has the capacity to get daimonic. It is an inspiration from
Elsewhere. Man invents non-biologically based technology that he CAN NOT
know "only from his flesh." Man gets inspired by Something to do that.
Masons (documented that they said it) that built impossible doors said "the
demon told them how to do it." Ramanujan, the 20th century's greatest
mathematician, said that Namagiri told him the answers to problems that no
other mathematicion, including Hardy, ever figured out. Mentioned in Roots
2. THAT is what I said. And it's breen in print for over 10 years saying
that . Now, that's ALL of it, not just a part of it.
The emphasis on the animal in man is put forth by us because most westerners
are so dead that they don't even know they ARE feeling something, let alone
WHAT they are feeling. They are split in half so that what they feel is
severed and not merged with what they think. No one NEEDS to spell out "HOW
man is NOT quite like other animals." It's all around us. I'm using a
computter - HELLO. The outer shell is plastic - HELLO. Using metal that's
there to be used to make or chisel a weapon is biologically based. Writing
on a cave wall is biologically based - we have hands, therefore we do it
because we CAN do it. It's purely physical. But fathoming how to melt hard
metal to make it liquid and then merging it with another metal to make it
stronger is not something you can know from the flesh alone. No way. And
doing alloy making is a precise to the drop skill. HOW THE FUCK did anyone
figure out how to do this? Perhaps Namagiri told them?
Red Comrades has nothing whatsoever to do with the SR. It's an independent
website with people involved that have NOTHING to do with satanism or any
desire to interact with such a religion. Why anyone involved in satanism
wanted to butt into my affairs when I got on line, and bitch about the RC
Documentation Center, is beyond me. Nosy, meddlesome, petty fucks. We put
that up there for one simple reason: the archives were OPEN. Completely
open. People like Arch-Getty write excellent books due to archival research
too, but they are some of the most TURGID reading - and he said to us that
he has to write it that way. He loved Phil's essay and said it did exactly
what he was trying to do. But he can NOT write an essay that way, using
information and facts (documented facts) from outside the specific narrow
sphere he's writring in. That is, he can't bring up security police in
other countries when speaking about the ones in the USSR back then. And
that IS the problem with academic books. They are turgid and narrow. Less
people read his book than have read the RC website or Phil's article. So
who is he writing all that excellent stuff for? Some of the titles he used
on his books (the book covers) are such turn-offs for communists that they
don't read the book "The Road to Terror" is one of the most EXCELLENT books
on the Soviets I ever read. It's objective as hell. TOTALLY outside
paradigms. Not pro and not con, either. Well, Lin Carter's "Anton Zarnak
Tales" sold more than "Road to Terror." Unfortunately.
For instance, one of the strongest points in Phil's essay is where he does
incorporate J. Edgar Hoover and explains the "police mind" and what people
like Hoover and Yezhov HAD to do in their appointed jobs. Hoover was
probably a very laid back nice guy otherwise. But as an FBI chief - he was
PHEW. He was not, however, as over the top and unreasonable as Ashcroft.
The example given of Hoover's actions toward the Black Panthers is a prime
example. The bringing up of successful British spies - something the Brits
even brag about, was crucial in showing an extra paradigmatic view.
The site doesn't claim to be run by Commies - and doesn't claim to be pro or
con. It's documentation. If some total nut cases in an organization never
realized that, then they plain can't read and are plain stupid. What that
MIM organization managed to do is prove Robert Conquest's assertions to the
letter. Project it outward - IF THEY HAD THE POWER, you and I would be
DEAD, Ole They more than proved what Conquest said about such regimes and
the kinds of people that run them. Now, my point: I can understand you
wanting to read the essay and offering to print it out and proof read it. I
figurued you probably were interested in it. Perhaps I figured totally
wrong. Perhaps you did it because "TANI AND PHIL" were "into that" - at
least that is what you'd have thought. INTO IT? Excuse me. I'm INTO the
beach. I'm moved here FOR the beach. I'm INTO gourmet dinners. I'm INTO
the TV shows that I watch and share with close friends who are interested -
GENUNELY INTERESTED, in the same things on their own. You never seemed to
be genuinely interested in ANY of that. So your "getting into it" or rather
"getting into what Tani was apparently into" was suspected. Sorry, that's
just the way I am.
And once again, Victor Anpilov is NOT a fascist. He has an independent
organization over there - or at least he had one the last I heard about it.
I'm not INTO it. I find it interesting - but not nearly as interesting as I
am in where "Enterprise" the pre-Spock show, is going. Or if it's going to
last. Or in "Angel" the show connected to the hilarious "Buffy." NOT
NEARLY as interested as I am in the Delphic Expanse and the Xindi. When
that comes on - everything else DROPS. That fast. I do have the right to
love what I love and be INTO what I'm into. I've been a sci fi and horror
fan since the day I saw a television. Only the most petty assholes would
find something to trash about that. Fuck em. But note that this is
precisely WHY people clam up and NEVER share a thing. What these klippoths
do is try very hard to stifle the heart. You used to KNOW that. Heh. Now
you are trying to DO it yourself. So then, that's the real you come forth
once and for all.
Back then, I also used to watch, without missing an episode, such shows as
Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons. Father Knows Best, Danny Thomas, Pinky
Lee, My Little Margie, Dream of Jeanie, Bewitched, and such shows (I was
quite young). I and everyone else I knew could relate to these shows - they
were very real to our own lives. Later on, I had no time for that kind of
show - for instance, I never saw an episode of The Waltons - but I wish I
did. It was my kinda regular show. But I MADE time for sci fi or horror,
no matter what. You never seemed interested in any of that. You aren't
interested in dancing or the kinds of music I like and tend to share. Oh, B
made some club dancing films of us last week :) BIG files, tho. But you
aren't interested. So what's there? If I didn't have org business with
you - and it was business.... take it outside all of this. You are a person
I know at some workplace. I see you every day and am friendly at the job to
you and others. Do you think I'd "naturally click" with you and hang out?
Here is what I and many others down here noticed. And this does NOT pertain
to people like Kaiden who I also know long distance from phone and such -
not at all. And Ole, what would have been the use of bringing this up
before? No use. We all have "our things" - things that each independently
LIKES and always LIKED - and that is HOW and WHY we got to know each other
and hang out and party and sometimes, become very good friends. I have my
thing, things I am interested in. I talk about these things like any other
normal person does. There is nothing unusual about this. Everyone does it,
be they herd, loner - hell even klippoths do it. Every time, my THINGS
seemed to SPARK your interest and you'd get seriously INTO it. It was
almost as if you came alive for a moment - but then you'd get SO seriously
INTO it. For me it was always casual, org business or whatever - something
I'm definitely NOT interested in enough to even watch a 30 minute show on.
These were never my primary THINGS of interest even even when it comes to
peripheral interest, these things weren't even THAT. EG, if I wanted to
ever know what Reich said (I never cared in the past and sure I heard of the
guy) I'd have gotten a book from a library and xeroxed it if there was
something I wanted to keep. I'd never pay 1000 bucks for such a book. Who
cares what Reich says about akatharsis? I never did. He groped, like he
just discovered it. Apparently you DO care, that's fine; you are the expert
on Reich. There were many many occasions that you got INTO my peripheral
things, these were only things you did get to hear about. Quite naturally I
assume these SPARKED your interest. There is not, however, one single THING
you ever shared that sparked interest in me enough to even remember most of
it a day later. I am DISCOUNTING org business, articles. For me, that's
pure busines of "get it out there available." Well, even that. We have ONE
article you wrote on Might is Right combined with 3 others written on it.
If you want me to remove it, just email me and say the word. Don't post it,
I might not see it. But even in that article you wrote, what do I find?
TANI all over it. My words, MY ideas, MY experssions even. Even my ad hom
personal examples of sniping. I mean, what the fuck? Do you have a self? I
assume you do. But what I picked up was very marginal in terms of a self.
It seemed to me that you had NO personal interests outside of technology and
computers except you kept getting sparked and intersted in MY things of
interest. Even the tape of music. You wanted to make a CD. I can't sell
that. I already have the Cthulhu Cultus on a CD and I do sell that. I
don't think you even heard that one. The tape was slow, too, everything was
in a lower key than it should have been in. I mean, what the fuck. I never
even mentioned it - and obviously I had made it years ago. Listen to "Party
in Hell" and see WHO gets mentioned in that song. Solomon, Dawn LaSalle,
etc. Why did you even want it? Do you like that KIND of music? You see, I
have no idea what kind of music you like. You seemed non-musical. It
seemed you were not the type to even listen to music. You never created a
piece or mentioned it. People DO tend to mention the things they are
interested in, or else I think they have no THING that's "their thing."
Vincent Crowley sent me a VCR of one of his performances. On the intros to
his metal songs, (I don't like metal for the most part) were these
breathtaking intros. I asked him if he wrote them. Well, turns out Gilmore
did. He got a phone call where I left a message: "PLEEAAAAASE make a copy
of those intros, I love them." He did. Aside from more nasty things I
called him when he kinda deserved it, I took to calling him the next Bach.
In turn, realizing he writes like that, I sent him my version (some
revoicing done on there since no hand can stretch that far) for one piano or
one player (not an organ) of Pasacagglia in C Minor. I managed to get 5
verses of it - the rest was impossible to change for 2 hands (no feet).
People who have been playing and interested in music all their lives DO
things like that. You never did anything like that. I also sent him the Am
Adagio from Bach's Tocatto, Adagio and Fugue in C Major. BEAUTIFUL piece.
I mean, HE WRITES like that. HE PLAYS that stuff. This wasn't some "let's
trade" thing. It was simple sharing, spontaneous, not even thought out. I
heard his intros - "OH, he'd like these versions I made of the two Bach
pieces." He is also a major Star Trek fan and Babylon Five fan - he has
massive archives of every single episode. That simple THAT is how "click
with someone" works when it's NOT business only. Your dealings with me
were seriously business only. But otherwise, regarding NON business only
stuff - you always got sparked by what I was into, MY thing. I never once
got a spark for a thing you said that wasn't business only. I see this.
Every one down here saw this, Ole I don't BELIEVE you don't see this or
didn't see it. Either that, if I'm to believe you did NOT grasp this fact -
then you never had a friend in your life. That some people, such as
Ygraine and Odal came away with some weird idea that we were "great
friends," well, I have no idea where they got that IMPRESSION even. Do
these people know what "great friends" are? Obviously not Either that, or
someone conveyed things to them quite other than the way they really were.
What is Heidi? What is Charlie? What is Joan? THESE are great friends.
Do you see them anywhere on here? NO. If I were to say "oh god, go check
out that fucking newsgroup now," they might, and they MIGHT post something.
Who knows or cares.
I also remember one of the last convos we had about your moving back to
Denmark, "to move or not to move, that is the question" type convo - a convo
that made my eyes go round with alarm. "The only incentive I have for
remaining here is ....." you remember that one? My OH OH alarm went on.
Like - WHERE did THAT come from? Out of the blue, where did that come from?
For me - that was off the wall, weird, out of the clear blue and 100%
unexpected. You never even came down to visit when everyone was here. I
did invite you once. You couldn't make it. The point is, pushing all orgs
and history of business good or bad aside. Despite all else - if Gilmore
was down here and he and I heard each other play - that WOULD be a click. A
friendship would have started. That is how things work, Ole. People I work
with in some local political thing are not friends, no matter how closely we
work, no matter even if we share dinner together and talk about the work at
hand. They are strangers. We have nothing in common. Work is work - it's
business whether it's a literal job or not. Usually normal people know this
and don't consider it anything else but a temporary "work together" thing.
Only the abject herd GO to such things or get involved in them (when they
are NOT interested at all) where some focus group or org is being dealt
with, for ulterior motives "In order to meet people." Herd people, or
wrong, that's wrong. I don't know WHAT they are, but they'll go to bowling
allys IN ORDER TO meet people. Most people go there to BOWL, not to meet
people. They are into the BOWLING. They love it. That's the difference,
and I think you don't have that clear. If the only thing you have in common
as a basis for "hanging out" is your org business, or "satanism" or "work
subjects" - then you don't have friends, Ole.
EG, you never saw B in person. Trust me, you can not see this on the
website and you'd probably not be able to recognize him from those small
photos if poor quality. You also don't know his mom or dad. Well, I do.
He has for most of his life been SERIOUSLY interested in races or ethnic
origins. He looks VERY strange in person. And I mean - STRANGE. His face
is weird. People mistake him for Mexican, half Asian, blacks think he's a
brother all the time or part brother, an Arab even asked him if he was
Egyptian. He is NEVER mistaken for western European of the northern type -
not ever. Part Italian sometimes. That's as close to Europe as anyone
takes him for. When the new genetic info came out, he SERIOUSLY studied it.
I, having NO concrete hand-on notion of anyone being THAT interested in what
I consider "nothing," managed to lose something he sent me. I didn't even
read it. I skimmed over it: not interested in this. It's nothing. But he
had to emphasize to me that for his ENTIRE LIFE he's been VERY interested in
it. ALL THINGS DROP when information comes out about that I didn't know
that. And I can't really relate to it. This is HIS thing. All his life
whites treated him like a non-white without exception. That is, they
treated him not so nicely. He doesn't really care about that part since he
always had a very "fuck em" attitude - but he IS curious about it. His lips
are BIG, they lack the musculuture that all whites and Asians have. They
are like a black person's lips. He has full epicanthic folds over eyes that
are NOT deepset at all. They are Chinese eyes. Literally. He has NO
cheekbones at all. When he smiles, the smile doesn't go "upward" as do
smiles of Asian people and nothing from the side view on his face smiling
gows forward, eg, like mine does (I can put coins on my cheekbones and
they'll stay put). I look at photos of myself and I have to admit, they
seriously DO NOT look like me - something is off. That horrible shitty
picture of me DOES (innsmouth gangster photo). The one on my Visa card does
(the one with make up on). This is a BIG problem when my driver license
photo doesn't look like me and I have to use it for ID. His smile is ONLY
on the bottom of his face. His face is inordinately LONG - very very
unusual. I mean, STRANGE looking. Aside from the societal experiences, he
GOT very very interested in all things anthropological. How was I supposed
to know? Since this is HIS thing, it never came up a lot. When it did, it
was marginally interesting if at all. He never really shared THAT "THING"
with me or Phil because we aren't into it that way. What I know about
differences in BIG groups of people is from epidemiology. That's about it.
I find it mildly interesting. But let there be something on about
invertebrates and ALL THINGS DROP. That's MY interest. EG, I'm NOT
interested in birds or fish. Or humans. That I post some stuff on that on
here, the fucking morons think that's my THING or something. B and I became
tight friends due to music. I know his mom. She told him I had a BIG BIG
collection of club songs - super dance music. From there he got wind of
other stuff I had - the Doctrines and he had been studying that on his own
for quite some time independent of ever seeing the Doctrines. You ONLY know
B with regards to the Doctrines. That's it. Did you know that he can draw
and that Smithsonian had him on a grant? He didn't have to go put art shows
on or struggle. He was IN. Of course he's not going to blab his current
business to people into satan that he'd never hang out with.
I mean, god damn, to think on this. I shared delicious, DELICIOUS recipes
with Jacqueline Davis and she shared back some yummies, THE POINT, she HAD
and shared her own unique had recipes, too - right after we both had the
most vicious flame war on here. She paid for and I mailed her a sauce
unavailable where she lives. EVEN SHE had something to share - and we were
SUPPOSED to be enemies? Jesus man. According to Odal then, his reasoning,
she and I are even GREATER FRIENDS than you and I. Right? That's what you
guys call friends? Huh!
When the the gang down here got together to throw what surely, definitely
looks like a SATANIC party (on Halloween) we did so because we already liked
to party together with each other. Of course, putting up the next years's
POLYNESIAN dress up wouldn't fit on a satanic website. Putting up the next
years PIRATE get out wouldn't fit. We used to party on any occasion
available - at each other's homes or in clubs. I have MANY photos in my
album of club parties. Most people don't want their photos on the
internet - not anywhere. That simple. Phil and I could go on a train for a
long trip and it wouldn't be long waiting for the entire car of people to be
having a party and carrying on. That's what we "come from." FUN. We run
into vacationing strangers on the beach all the time. We probably will
never see them again when they leave - but they click with us and we CARRY
ON - and it's FUN. What is life without PLAY? What is life without LAUGH?
Sure, business is business, get it OUT OF THE WAY and get on with it. Now's
the time off, PLAY, LAUGH. I never once felt or heard a HINT of that from
you.
The difference is that people who are very close personal friends of mine
WERE intersted in the things they loved in life. I MET THEM at dance clubs
and at the beach down here and they happened to also LIVE here, pretty close
by (no long distance phone bills, no long drives). We clicked. I did NOT
meet them through some "focus group" or org. I interacted with you solely
from the perspective of "satanism." Business. Like a focus political group
aiming to get something done (such as the ARBC - strangers working together,
sharing meals sure, but none of us friends, that Congregational guy in with
us on that pinching my cheek and calling me "little devil." But I don't
carry on with this person after business is done. We aren't friends. We do
NOT "know" each other at all.) - the people usually know that they have
nothing ELSE in common and are just strangers working together. They
aren't anything MORE than that.
Ole, life is VERY simple for me. I like it that way. I enjoy myself and
very simple pleasures bring me much joy. Recently, I discovered a new toy:
PHOTOSHOP. But far beyond that, I discovered the SUPER toy: Swim Noodle
with connector. Did you know that I have a collection of some of the most
breathtaking sunset photos I ever saw? Took them in 1986. I have not only
a green flash photoed, but the rare green ray as well. I had to have the
"flash" blown up to even see it. The camera caught it. I have serious
photo equipment, including "super telephoto." You'd figure that out if you
saw the http://innsmouth.rules.it website with one such photo on there. But
you aren't INTO that either. Guess you didn't realize I was. Everything
DROPS for that. I have some of the most astounding photos of Niagara Falls,
both Canadian and American side. But you never seemed to be INTO
photographing things. So it never came up. I never had a reason to mention
asa or f stops to you. Either you have no conception of what "clicking
with" a person really is and thus have no friends, or you knew this the
entire time since it was more than obvious. As Vad put it - what the hell
did you think I was DOing years before you showed up - and DOing in my real
personal time offline? Talking about doctrines? Think again. I moved away
from the very place where DOCTRINES in the original Tibetan was the religion
of the entire community - to be near the OCEAN in a nice HOT cllimate when
there was no one I knew here (back then). Do I keep in touch? Rarely, very
very rarely. Keeping in touch with family via long distance is just NOT
something any of us ever did or do. Every one is too much in the moment.
Too nomadic. Even the SWS was a party and fun. But I don't keep in touch
there either. Out of sight, out of mind. Move on.
You had business with me - nothing more. No need to have business with you
once I got the knack of being online and using a computer. Right? You
don't like the people in the SR. So you left. Fine by us. WHAT IS THE
PROBLEM? I see none. I don't even go looking at your org's website to go
trying to invent some new TRASH to spew or whatever else you've been up to
lately. Trying to insinuate that I GOT something from that idiot Blavatsky
Rather she got it from the same place I got it - but she distorted it. I
didn't. I spelled it out RIGHT. I merged it up for OUR org with other
similar doctrines or partial doctrines anyone else had. That is what we DO,
and you used to know that. I'll say to you what you used to say to the CoS:
there is nothing, not a dent you can say about or make in the DDocs. They
are solid gold. They are written FOR a satanic audience. In the past
everything you wrote reeked of TANI, even my personal ad hom examples for
hell's sakes. Couldn't you think of ones of your own? Now you try to do
exactly what the CoSsers you hated try to do? Give it up. They couldn't do
it in all that time, neither can you. Going off against me on a personal
vein fools no one but yourself. I was your personal muse, or GURU as one
CoS person put it. I never intended to be that - and quite frankly I
fucking resent it. I'm a sun. I DO NOT want planets orbiting around me.
And I don't need the fucking planets that INSIST on orbiting making trouble
for me with total strangers - which is what you actually did with your Big
Ego Brainstorm, the s-list.
We have a few Comrades in SR that love to GET INTO the politics of Iraq and
Bush. OH they get into it, taking sides. None of it is serious, no egos
are involved in any of it. Like, in the end, in real life, WHO CARES? You
see, in the end in the world where all that reality happens to be - Bush is
gonna do what Bush is gonna do - and it doesn't matter which side we play
at. We ain't the gov or the UN. It's ALL play when we do that. And it's
ALL fun. And no matter how vehement the sides in the debate gets - not one
flame happens. Why not? Because it's NOT personal at all.
And for the record. I had no problem with you making LINKS - but then I now
know WHAT a link is. Remember the time I did not know what this was? Phil
knows less than that and his reasons were something other than just
copyright issues. He doesn't realize that ANYONE can read and download and
print and pass around anything on any website. He doesn't know that more
links are GOOD, not bad. I simply relayed his feelings since he is the one
that owns those copyrights and he IS a business. He went to the lawyer. Do
you think I'd give the lawyer your name spelled wrong? DOH!
Again I'll say it. Padme Sambhava wrote TWO PAGES of very pure, simple
text. I show what he said and I have to make English and explain it a
little bit. I have to use familiar words. The last two pages of Tantra
where it's pictoral - that's IT. There is nothing more. That IS the Dark
Doctrine on two pages of pictographs, just remove the "words" on there and
look at the pictograms. There is nothing MORE to the DDoc about the
"boundless darkness and the black fire within - what the fire became, and
what the darkness around it became - while the entire time, the Boundless
Darkness is ONE - always ONE, never less, never more. All things come out
of it, but IT never decreases. It is a mystery. That someone else chose
to distort what was there and write BOOKS on two pages, is irrelevant. In
the 1960's when I did "Darkness is One" as a recitive song, I was 14 years
old, me Kerm, Ruth and Phyllis did it as a performance along with Beatles
songs. Ruth had percussion but also playued a recorder (it's like a flute).
Phyllis had bass guitar. I had classical guitar. Kerm had the flute. We
even got paid :) I never heard of Blavatsky or even knew that ANYONE ever
saw this stuff. The part about mankind distorting the cloth is mine. Talk
about distorting the cloth - that is exactly what she DID trying to make 7
dharmas when there are only 5. 5 is ubiquitous all over the East and in
Pythagoreanism. She got that from a regular person in India, near Nepal
that knew it off the top of his head, Ole. Then she invented the rest and
got creative and distortive. I got it directly from own community. Note
how SHORT it is.
End of story. Have a nice day, if you can. Laugh, if you can. Go see 3
creative and very funny "Updates" on the Kennedy assassination and laugh, if
you can. http://tcaseybrennan.knows.it As TCB said personally (at least B
got to see it, it was email) - "It was always abot fun. Is there anything
else?" Well, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE INVESTIGATION from some
super secret unmentional or even abominable source? If not, then I have no
use for knowing you. Got anything at all to say or share that I'd be
intersted in other than handing me computers or trying to denigrate me
and/or the DDocs (a waste of your time)? Probalby not.
OH yeah, one thing: the thin black line on the monitor. I'd be interested
t know what that is.
T. OH, See in
"- wolf -" <wo...@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote in message
news:3f7c7678$0$97175$edfa...@dread12.news.tele.dk...
Not if a bunch of people living near her do it. It doesn't reveal what
household it came from at all. There IS something in emails that DOES
reveal that, even if you post from a library - it can identify the specific
computer that was used! Jerome showed me. It's NOT the IP. It's not even
a number.
T
>
> - wolf -
>
>
Cat Asstrophy
> Btw, what the hell is a thin black line that popped up across my puter
screen,
> even on the desk top or over it, even over my juno. It vanished when I
> rebooted. What is that? Do you know? (I have a new monitor...)
It's the "devil", Tani. :-)
Bert Parks
<snip all the horseshit to Ole>
> And once again, Victor Anpilov is NOT a fascist.<
If that is the case, please explain the following from
http://archive.tol.cz/transitions/sownatgr.html
"Social conflicts have reached new heights in Russia during the last several
months. The country was swept by a wave of railway blockades, hunger
strikes, and student unrest. The reasons for this eruption were mostly
economic, although describing chronically unpaid salaries as a purely
economic factor would be a gross understatement. Naturally, demands for
money and jobs have swiftly developed into protests against the federal
government and its policies.
These manifestations of public discontent were promptly hijacked by all
sorts of political extremists who sought to attract the enraged people under
their flags. Vladimir Zhirinovskii's paramilitary "falcons," veterans of the
botched Chechnya campaign led by General Lev Rokhlin, and **Victor Anpilov's
neo-Bolsheviks all joined forces to call for a decisive fight against
so-called Jewish and Caucasian plutocrats, post-communist wheeler-dealers,
democrats, and U.S. agents.**"
So I guess in your book it isn't fascist to call for a "decisive fight
against so-called Jewish and Caucasian plutocrats, post-communist
wheeler-dealers, democrats, and U.S. agents"? Gimme a fucking break, you
demented old fool.
> He has an independent
> organization over there - or at least he had one the last I heard about
it.
> I'm not INTO it.
You're not "into it" but you make value judgments? How does that dog hunt?
I find it interesting - but not nearly as interesting as I
> am in where "Enterprise" the pre-Spock show, is going. Or if it's going
to
> last. Or in "Angel" the show connected to the hilarious "Buffy." NOT
> NEARLY as interested as I am in the Delphic Expanse and the Xindi. When
> that comes on - everything else DROPS. That fast. I do have the right to
> love what I love and be INTO what I'm into. I've been a sci fi and horror
> fan since the day I saw a television. Only the most petty assholes would
> find something to trash about that. Fuck em. But note that this is
> precisely WHY people clam up and NEVER share a thing. What these
klippoths
> do is try very hard to stifle the heart. You used to KNOW that. Heh.
Now
> you are trying to DO it yourself. So then, that's the real you come forth
> once and for all.
Blah, blah, blah. Ole used to be one of your favorites before he started
questioning your religious stances.
Regards,
Harry Lime
King of The Pinky Dicked Klipp Klops
Viktor Analpov
http://exile.ru/160/160010100.html the story is listed under "The Vanguard
of Red Youth (AKM)" Very funny read for those of you into Rus politics.
(For convenience, the more entertaining material proving is marked with **,
once again that Anpilov is a NEO-NAZI FASCISTA JUST LIKE TANI AND THE
SATANIC RETARDS! You've got the ''EVILS OF ORAL SEX AND DIRTY JEWS! RIGHT UP
JANTSANG'S FASCIST ALLEY. SEIG HEIL JANTSANG! EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN
RETARD!)
Needless to say, the AKM is neither a vanguard (to be a vanguard you have at
least to be headed somewhere, a virtue these guys most conspicuously lack)
nor red (pink, light brown, mauve or burgundy might be more descriptive of
the group's political coloration), though it does indeed contain some youth.
"Wackos," "nutters," "counterfeit-vodka-soaked degenerates," "hypersexual
no-mind FSB dupes" and other endearing terms often used of them in the Left
tusovka may be more accurate, but they are not terribly effective as an
explanation - not much more helpful than the "Stalinist fanatics" and
"implacable supercommunist intransigents" of the mainstream media. So let me
try to explain.
**Neither the AKM nor its parent organization, the Trudovaya Rossiya ("Labor
Russia"), popularly known as the "Anpilov babushkas," are really about
Communism. Nor are they about fascism, anarchism, antiglobalism or Soviet
patriotism, though each of these ideologies does play a part. What these two
groups are really all about is a totally nonthinking and visceral reaction
of bewildered people to a hostile environment.** In the microbiological
world, if you drip some acid into a test tube filled with a solution with
amoebas and infusoria in it, the critters will naturally drift to the
section least affected by the acid. In the animal kingdom, you have the
familiar Russian aphorism: "Flip the horse on the nose, it will wag its
tail." In the Russian political world, you have the Trudovaya Rossiya and
the AKM.
The hostile environment is, of course, what a pedestrian Marxist-Leninist
like me would define as Russian capitalism, period. A fascist-influenced
aesthete like the eXile's own Dr. Limonov (may he breathe the air of freedom
as soon as possible!) might say the colonialistic plutocratic Elders-of-Zion
globalist occupation. And some Berezovsky-funded libertarian democratic
Russophobe human rights junkie will call it the totalitarian Stalinist
dictatorship of the murderous KGB colonel Putin. But they're all different
names for the same thing. And this environment is hostile to anything that
lives and thinks. **The TR and AKM are certainly alive (and kicking, in a
convulsive sort of way) - but their top priority seems to be to avoid
thinking and acting intelligently at all costs.**
The nonthinking and visceral reaction of the "adult" (not to say
superannuated) Trudovaya Rossiya is trash culture. Its fuehrer, the
notorious Victor Anpilov, is no yahoo. Far from it. He's got a degree in
journalism from a really good Moscow school, speaks Spanish like Che Guevara
and has served as a reporter for various Soviet media in several Latin
American countries. But I defy anyone who has seen or heard him to detect
the faintest traces of any of this. He acts the part of the paradigmatic
Dumb Guy from the Sticks, the Ultimate Greaser, to perfection.
With Anpilov personally, this may be a matter of personal preferences. An
old army buddy of his told me that, when in the ranks, the young Victor used
to drink aftershave lotion - not out of any innate perversity or because of
a lack of more conventional alcohol where they were stationed, but in order
to, you see, improve the smell of his breath.
**But it's really in the format of his movement. Despite its name, "Labor
Russia" doesn't contain a lot of workers and has very feeble links with the
labor movement.** Whom it does contain is losers. Losers from all walks of
life, no matter what social or personal circumstances have made them losers,
gravitate naturally towards the TR and there embrace trash culture and start
thinking and acting like yahoos. And I'm not just talking foul-smelling
loud-mouthed short-tempered babushkas or Cossacks in faux-historical
costumes here. ***An ultra-sophisticated scholar of dead Oriental languages,
if he finds himself out of sync with his academic milieu and gravitates
towards the Anpilovites, will, after a short stint with them, begin to
proudly call himself a "lumpen," painstakingly dress like one and spout all
kinds of nonsense about "kikes" and the evils of oral sex.**** I've seen
this happen.
The nonthinking and visceral reaction of the youthful and sprightly AKM is
existentialism. In fact, that's about the only feature the members of that
movement have in common.
In Internet discussions following the bombing episode on the bridge, I've
seen the AKM's social base characterized both as "bespectacled geeks
erroneously believing they will make more girls if they pretend to be
Communists" and "pimply-faced vocational-school students from the
working-class slums." And, from personal experience, both statements are
true - there are many guys and girls of both types in the group. There are
also some wayward adolescents (practically children), a lot of
glue-sniffin', counterfeit-vodka-swillin' punks, some more or less serious
college students and young professionals plus a large proportion of
nondescript girls who believe (quite correctly) that they will make more
boys if they pretend to be Communists and ... hang around a lot with a lot
of boys. In fact, there was this girl one summer night, with whom I got
drunk on Baltica No. 9 ... but no, who the hell knows those weirdo AKMers,
she may turn out to be able to read English after all. Well, ahem, yes ... a
common social base for the movement is hard to determine.
Ideologically... Well, there is in Moscow this Trotskyite madhouse called
the Revolutionary Workers' Party, famous for the size of the cockroaches
infesting the pad of its leader and the coal-black hue of the once pink bed
sheets they give visitors. They are also dedicated working-class activists
and generally nice guys. So those Trotskyites decided to do this very
Trotskyist thing called entryism, when you enter some totally alien
organization and start subtly perverting its members to the Trotskyite
orthodoxy. And they chose AKM, as AKM, despite all its vices, is, I believe,
the largest Leftist youth organization in today's Russia. And the Trots
would come to every AKM meeting, have long talks with members and, sipping
counterfeit vodka, they would start preaching their subtle and hidden
message: "Workers' democracy ... permanent revolution ... deformed workers'
state..." And the AKMers would nod and, sipping counterfeit vodka, comment:
"Wow, man, that's deep! Workers' democracy! And a deformed workers' state.
Yep, that's what it must have been: a deformed workers state! Gee, that's
cool!" The Trots, staggering from the effects of the counterfeit vodka,
would go home very happy.
Then, one warm summer night, I came to the AKM lair and, though we Maoists
disclaim the evil and revisionist Trotskyite practice of entryism, I just
wanted to have a good talk with some members and, what the hell, try and
convert some of them to Maoism. So, after the meeting was over, we installed
ourselves comfortably on a bench, opened a bottle of counterfeit vodka and I
began: "The revisionist Trotskyite theory of permanent revolution is a load
of wank. On the other hand, Chairman Mao's theory of continuous revolution
is a glorious contribution... And this wasn't no friggin' deformed workers'
state: a social-imperialist state-capitalist superpower, that's what it was.
Now, concerning the Three Worlds Theory..." And they began nodding as wisely
as a treeful of owls and commenting: "Wow, man, that's deep! This
...whaddayacallit ... state-imperialist social-capitalist superpower! And
the Three Worlds Theory! Gee, that's cool!" The guy nodding especially
wisely and agreeing with everything I was saying was a passing-by member of
Dr. Limonov's National-Bolshevik Party and, by his own admission, a nazi.
Organizationally... The acronym AKM is deciphered as the "Vanguard of Red
Youth" (Avangard Krasnoi Molodyozhi), but it coincides with another Russian
acronym: "Modified Kalashnikov Submachine Gun" (Avtomat Kalashnikova
Modifitsirovanniy). The AKM's rhetoric is full of such militaristic
overtones: they're all regimented into "platoons," "companies" and the like,
they have not chapter secretaries, but "platoon commanders", etc. It doesn't
go beyond the rhetoric, though. A Ukrainian Leftist friend of mine once ran
into my apartment steaming with rage. "I mean, just what do those FSB
stooges, the AKM, think they are? Such an unashamed secret services
provocation!" "Hey, man, hold on a sec," I said, "What makes you think they
are FSB?" "Why, their stickers in the metro, announcing the exact date of
their meetings, giving the full address of the headquarters and all. It's
tantamount to saying 'You are most welcome to come see us on Lubyanka!'" And
though this ultra-cautious foreigner has yet to learn a lot about our local
free-an-easy Leftist ways, in a sense he was right. Anyone is free to walk
into their headquarters and take part in the debates. There is very little
accountability. The movement must be infiltrated to its ears. And they
couldn't care less. They aren't existentialists for nothing.
I don't mean existentialist as in Jean-Paul Sartre. I mean existentialist as
in "Do It!", "Ona Move!", "Too Drunk To Fuck" and so on. These are the real
guiding principles of the movement and not any fancy frills written in their
program like "the dictatorship of the proletariat" or even "Soviet
patriotism." If their elder comrades find consolation in being uncouth
trashy greasers and in their Tolkienesque nostalgia for the Blessed Realm of
the Soviet Union, then the AKMers get their kicks by being spontaneous and
acting on the spur of the moment. Hence the high percentage of punks, hence
the counterfeit vodka, hence the anonymous Baltica-No.-9-stained sexual
relationships, hence the style of their political work. Take this guy
Alexander Shalimov who was walking to (or from - I forget the details) the
AKM headquarters after some rally in the fall of 2001 and spotted a Church
of Scientology building on the way. "Fuck the bastards, this L. Ron Hubbard
guy was a really mediocre sci-fi writer plus the Scientologists are a
friggin' zombie cult and all that..." These or similar thoughts must have
raced though his head as he hurled a bottle of Molotov cocktail into the
window. He was convicted of hooliganism and is now serving a two-year
sentence. His trial was a farce, he is undoubtedly a political prisoner and
we demand his immediate release, and, come to think of it, the Church of
Scientology is a friggin' zombie cult. But you get the picture. The AKM were
also one of the most militant sections at the "Anticapitalism-2002" rally
last fall. Nine members of the movement were arrested by OMON and two of
them, including the recent bombing hero, Igor Fedorovich, were given a
savage beating.
Russian punk icon Egor Letov was for a long time a close associate of the
AKM and gave many concerts under the group's auspices (however, I don't
believe he is or has ever been an actual member). It is easy to see why.
Though Letov has a degree of sophistication that most AKM members can never
hope to attain, the basic "Do It!" ethos, the basic existentialism is the
same. When Letov was a budding anti-Communist (what else do you expect?
"I'll always be against" is a programmatic line from one of his songs) punk
singer in the late eighties, the evil Sovok authorities locked him up in a
bughouse. This was in a cold windswept Siberian town. Opposite the mental
hospital there was an apartment house under construction. And the only dream
in Egor's life at that period was to escape from the asylum. He didn't hope
so survive for long in the bitter frost in the thin hospital clothes-and the
first militiaman would have stopped him. What he wanted was to run as quick
as he could to the top of the house opposite and jump down from it, thus
ending his misery. That's a story any true-blue AKMer will have no
difficulty in relating to.
The AKM has also nourished an interesting rock singer in its own bosom,
somewhat in the Egor Letov vein, only more naÔve. His name is Ivan Baranov
and his stomach-twirling ultra-romantic anthems are about red stars and
hammers and sickles flaming in the sky, the grass swept by the wind in the
boundless steppes, about how the red sun of Revolution will rise for all of
us... When drunk, I'm literally moved to tears.
If I go on for much longer (and if the long-suffering eXile editors decide
to publish my piece), I'm afraid I'll exhaust the paper's none-too-plentiful
royalties fund with these endless thousands upon thousands of words. So
let's wind up with some conclusions and the aftermath of the events.
The whole story sucks. I mean, absolutely. It's a shame and a sin that the
largest Leftist youth group in the country should be so disoriented and
fuzzy (as in "fuzzy from too much counterfeit vodka" and as in "fuzzy
logic"). It's a shame and a sin that a guy under psychiatric care should
have been allowed to run round unsupervised within a self-proclaimed
revolutionary organization and that he should even now be widely regarded by
the AKMers as a hero. It's a shame and a sin that the number of political
prisoners in Russia should be rapidly growing each year, the absolute
majority of them being Leftist political prisoners. It's a shame and a sin
that we've got such a proto-fascist police state here in Russia that the
idea of the whole thing having been cooked up (or stage-managed) by the
secret services comes most naturally to one's mind. It's a shame and a sin,
the kind of evidence Igor Fedorovich the Sapper is now giving to his
interrogators.
Whether it is his mental illness (as suggested by some observers) or the
beatings he's being subjected to in detention (as suggested by others), but
the picture painted by the Sapper is truly grandiose. He speaks of a mammoth
terrorist plot in which he was just "a pawn." He says that ideologically the
terrorist network is a "Trotskyite-Stalinist bloc" headed by Victor Anpilov
and the above-mentioned Trotskyite leader, Sergei, the one with the
cockroaches and the weird-colored bed linen. The latter, Fedorovich alleges,
recruited him last summer "under threat of brutal physical punishment" and
had allegedly promised him $1,000 for the Mosgortrans bombing. Hey,
bleeding-heart human rights junkies and connoisseurs of the 1937 show
trials, rings any bells?
These allegations have resulted in numerous searches and interrogations in
Leftist milieus in Moscow. Sergei, who, bar the cockroaches and his Trot
dogmaticism, is a serious, progressive and valuable comrade, had his
apartment searched on Feb 11. Confiscated from him were prescription drugs,
fertilizer for his window plants, papers and diskettes, not to mention the
hard disk of his computer. He himself was detained as a suspect and taken
for interrogation to the Moscow City CID.
"This whole affair smells of shit," he told reporters afterwards.
You're right, Comrade Sergei, it does. As does the entire framework of the
Russian Federation. It stinks of shit and blood and filthy lucre and
injustice and the sweat of workers treated as subhumans - all sorts of
intolerable smells.
High time to deodorize the place.
People's Commissar
"Cat Asstrophy" <sata...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mullah Victor Ibn Ash-Shaitan©
where their nutty political beliefs come from. Good work, Sam Spade. I
think you've got it.
Victor
"Viktor Analpov" <taniisanid...@turanianturd.org> wrote in
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Viktor Analpov
> This actually clears up a lot of questions I've had for many years as to
> where their nutty political beliefs come from. Good work, Sam Spade. I
> think you've got it.
I, more than anybody, love to beat a dead horse. Northstar Compass is in my
opinion is just a front group for these closet brownshirt types. Really, I
don't care if people are fascists. What I find distasteful is that people
when caught in a lie try to use every manner possible to deny the truth.
This is Tani's MO.
It's too bad this thread degenerated into the TvR thingy as I find it pretty
interesting that the Satanic Retards stoop to using a mentally ill person as
one of their premier members.
If I were a betting man, I think Thomas Pynchon would get a big kick out of
the insanity that riddles this newsgroup -- I certainly do. Perhaps Kori
would agree with me too.
Regards,
Bolshoi Harry Lime
People's Democratic Republic of Porn
http://harrylime.biz
Ivan Mazepa
The leftists who think they aren't trotting are even funnier to me.
I generally do not personalize politics, tho. Even when it matters, it
doesn't.
Limonov is in prison. The rest is trivial.
JN
Cat Asstrophy
> Audey ain't nowhere near my computer. So it CAN'T be the devil :)
Oh hell. I forgot. He's the devil incarnate, isn't he. Well, he's in San
Francisco, so I guess he isn't in Florida. Or so he says.......
Cat
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CONFESSION TO CONSPIRACY
To Assassinate JFK
by Kerry Thornley
Chapter 4: "Fear of Paranoia"
© 2000 S. London: http://www.sondralondon.com/tales/thornley/
"There is still another psychological process that I have run across in
my explorations of failure to actualize the self. This evasion of
growth can also be set in motion by a fear of paranoia."
Although I was not to read those particular words in The Farther
Reaches of Human Nature by Abraham Maslow until many years later,
I was versed enough in the modern literature of psychology to realize
that traditional Freudian notions of paranoid schizophrenia and classical
paranoia were under attack by more than just wild-eyed radicals.
One of my textbooks in school contained a sociological study of a man
who was committed for symptoms of paranoia; it demonstrated that,
due to his rather unpleasant personality, he was actually being secretly
harassed by his co-workers who, upon being interviewed, admitted to
as much.
At that point I took a long second look at the origins of my own fears of
paranoia.
What popularized that brand of psychosis for my generation was the
film, The Caine Mutiny, with Humphrey Bogart clicking his steel
marbles compulsively, saying "I kid you not," and making a fool of
himself over a few stolen scoops of ice cream.
Another French Quarter writer who worked in a record store next to
the Bourbon House, where I ate and drank and socialized when I lived
in New Orleans, possessed a book about color psychology that said
brown was the favorite color of most paranoids. He added that most
novelists tended toward paranoia, something about which we both
laughed a little nervously.
Another Quarterite, a painter named Loy Ann Camp who was among
my closest friends, had a textbook from her days in nursing school that
said paranoia was related to fear of latent homosexuality. Since my
reason for joining the Marines earlier had been to prove to myself that I
was a man in every sense' I didn't find that information comforting
either.
From additional sources I gathered that paranoids were quite
undesirable cranks who took to sitting in corners stroking their chins
and observing those around them with sidelong glances. Senator Joseph
McCarthy was said to have been a paranoid, as was Robert Welch,
founder of the John Birch Society.
In fact, all the really famous paranoids seemed to be anti-Communist --
a consideration that did not sit well with my own rational capitalist
philosophy of those days. Paranoids, in addition to all the other
problems they were causing, were giving my politics a bad name with
outlandish notions like Welch's charge that grandfatherly old Ike was "a
conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy" and his grandiose
ambition to impeach Earl Warren from the Supreme Court.
Intellectual respectability required mental health, and it was becoming
evident to me by then that mental health consisted of trusting everyone
about everything as much as possible -- and, for good measure, poking
fun at anyone who didn't. Especially to be trusted were the mass media,
whose owners and personnel were not to be regarded as minions of the
Establishment because, as they themselves used to attest with
confidence, there was no Establishment in the United States of
America. Only foreigners and paranoids believed that there was.
Intellectualizing and joking about paranoia was a favorite pastime of
post-Beatnik, pre-Hippie Bohemian America -- for reasons that were
undoubtedly the result of coincidence, at least among individuals who
did not want their sanity called into question.
An habitué of the Bourbon House, Chris Lanham, once entertained us
with the diabolical theory that the psychological classification of
paranoia had been developed by conspirators for the purpose of
discrediting anyone bent on exposing them.
When his friend, Jack Burnside, suggested sharing this hilariously evil
notion with a wandering conspiracy buff we called Crazy David --
because he thought people like the Rockefellers and DuPont controlled
the government -- we told Jack the joke had gone far enough. Crazy
David might actually believe him. And, as everybody knew, paranoids
who received reinforcement for their delusions could become very
dangerous.
In retrospect, I realized that Crazy David's views about who rules
America did not seem especially insane. By 1972, my own analysis
resembled it in many essential respects.
Then came Watergate.
Prole
Your problem is that you have successfully, in your own mind, built a true
straw horse.
Anpilov, the parties in the former USSR, none of that have any relevance to
the SR as an org, and no one is giving a shit about any of it, except you.
SR promotes FD Roosevelt's ideas. That is perfectly clear and up front.
I have no idea who Anpilov is. But I did look at Actogaia a long time ago.
That would be Dugin's website.
Tani clearly said when she saw Anipilov's Northstar stuff, and it was before
he switched parties. Tani also clearly said that she doesn't keep up with
any of it, and doesn't care about any of it. Of course, you ignore that
because your goal here is not to even try to discuss a single thing. You
are just flaming.
You make connections out of whole cloth that are not connected. That's
obsession. You do it compulsively and repeatedly. That's obsession.
Tani used to also trust and like Carleton S. Coon and even recommended books
he wrote if I could find them, since I was interested. Then she turned
around on that because she was shown proof that Coon was a racist. In fact,
Coon was the racist that provided KKK writers with information. But she
only found that out a few months ago. Previous to that, she never agreed
with his theory of polygenesis because it was impossible, but she said very
clearly, that Coon's focus on the environment was very good and thorough.
That is not to say that she ever agreed with everything the man said.
I personally have no idea if Anipilov is a fascist, but I'd not be naive
enough to believe anything the press said about the man. I have no idea
what the man said himself. I don't want to know what someone else claims
he said. Point you seem to forget is that no one cares. Tani certainly
doesn't care
But here you are, beating your meat in brethless anticipation over someone
who doesn't even bother to respond to you.
And for the last time: there is nothing, absolutely nothing whatsoever in
the DDoc monographs on Tantra that is in Blavatsky. Not even close. So
that's another strawman. But we already knew that . You're just beating
your meat, wasting your time flaming into the thin air or making up fantasy
about a strange with your butt buddies.
Brendan (Prole)
Pontifex Maximus
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375
Americans accused of brutal
'punishment' tactics against villagers,
while British are condemned as too soft
Army propaganda department screws up, sends identical form letters with
different signatures to the same newspaper.
Many soldiers, same letter / Front Page -The Olympian:
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390_Printer.shtml
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