Recent Email--Re: Temple of Set, Zeena & Nikolas Schreck and Lessons Not-Well-Learned
BarlowandStraker
posting by the hierarchy of TOS some months back that stated that,
whilst the "whats" of what happened with Zeena/Nikolas Schreck were
apparent, the TOS was unable to explain "the why's" of those events.
This will be my last posting for three weeks, as I've got finals to
focus on commencing this evening in earnest. Rather than do the mental
masturbation that so many practice on here as a "final for now post,"
I thought I'd address the TOS issue as I've received several
thoughtful emails from those few here that are interested in what
happened, and why.
The "why's" of what happened are as follows:
Nikolas Schreck, aka Barry Dobbin, was a very vocal and apparent
supporter of "Satanism" who gained some notoriety as an occultist,
Charles Manson fan, and white supremecist in the 1980's, particularly
when the talk-show circuit concerning the bogus "Satanic Ritual Abuse"
bandwagon was running at full throttle. He made television appearances
(one of which on a Geraldo Rivera special in October 1988) with
certain inflammatory statements ("A blood bath will be a cleansing of
the earth that has been dirtied and sullied for too long--Geraldo
Rivera "Satanism" Special, October, 1988) and some oddball connections
like Tom Metzger and of course Anton LaVey.
Zeena LaVey, now Zeena Schreck, and Barry Dobbin apparently met at
*some* point in the 1980's, and began dating. They pursued whatever
magical endeavors that seemed to fit them, including involvement with
Anton LaVey's post-1975 Church of Satan fraud.
In 1990, I believe the month was August of that same year, Zeena sent
a letter to Michael A. Aquino denouncing LaVey as her "unfather"
accusing him (LaVey) of sitting in a "risk-free easy chair" whilst her
(Zeena) and Aquino were out doing battle against the AntiSatan forces.
She proposed an end to whatever "lingering animosities" existed
between TOS and Zeena/LaVey, and that they should, paraphrased,
properly regard one another as treaders of the same path.
In September of 1995, I had occasion to attend the TOS Conclave in Las
Vegas, Nevada. I had been a TOS member twice, once from 1988-1991,
then from December of 1994 until (at that time) the Heb Sed gathering
in Vegas. Zeena & Nikolas Schreck were "invited guests" to the banquet
and, according to what Zeena then told me, her and Nikolas were
"checking things out."
Thereafter, Zeena and Nikolas joined the TOS at the behest of Michael
Aquino once they expressed an interest.
By 1996, a general furor erupted by various members of the Temple,
including the Priesthood III*, about those who were "openly (allegedly
formerly) hostile to the TOS" being allowed in. The further
recognition of them to the grade of Adept II* and the Priesthood III*
raised eyebrows even more during the spring of 1997. As it was none
other than Michael Aquino, and another VI* member of the Temple who
were "co-recognizers" pursuant to Temple of Set bylaws, those members
of the Priesthood who *did* say anything were drowned out, and the
rest of them simply kept their mouths shut.
I myself had inside information as to what was going on--Michael and
Lilith Aquino extended their personal patronage to those two--Nikolas
& Zeena were helping the good Dr. with his most recent edition of his
"Church of Satan" book providing more inflammatory information against
Anton LaVey, and, since what Michael says always went, they were the
"politically correct" people to support, thus bringing in not only the
other VI* (and Council member) to support them, but virtually the
*entire* Council of Nine to support their further (nearly
simulataneous) IV* Recognitions...
Thus we have a case of not only Michael Aquino, but Don Webb, James
Lewis, and nearly the entire IV* collectively supporting the
rapid-fire recognition to the "Magistry" of those two--but further the
handing over of the High Priesthood to Zeena--despite the very real
fact that, approximately a year and a half prior to said nomination,
they (Nikolas and Zeena) had fled the U.S. because the State of
California was pursuing them for nearly $20,000 in taxes they
absconded on!
So what you have is two occultnik freak deadbeats who were placed in
charge of the Temple of Set's High Priesthood, and right under the
collective noses of the C9 and the High Priest Emeritus.
Tracing back, in August of 2000 I had come to the realization that
there were, in fact, "erroneous recognitions taking place within the
III*+" and addressed those concerns to the C9--and was informed by one
Roger Whitaker, that, as a member of the C9, he was "outraged" by my
statement and began expulsion proceedings. I resigned before that
could take place, realizing the horrible truth: They weren't gonna see
what they weren't gonna see.
Messr. Whitaker was a staunch supporter of Zeena & Nikolas, and I
understand that he has been quoted as saying "I should have listened
to Shuti (Balanone)" re: The Schrecks, whom apparently Balanone
opposed in placing into power in the first place.
The "why's" of this are very simple: The Temple of Set, Michael and
Lilith Aquino, Don Webb, The Council of Nine were taken in by these
two charlatans: They came into the Temple with an agenda, and
succeeded in pulling the wool over the eyes of every last one of them.
Of course, Balanone was ignored; I was not only ignored but would have
been bounced had I not resigned...
History, however, has proven us quite correct: It was an inexcusable
lack of foresight on the part of the *ENTIRE* ruling members of the
TOS to allow this to happen. They can excuse themselves by saying
"Gee, we didn't *know." Bullshit. They were purposely *blind!* Anyone
should have seen this coming.
Now, damage control was the order of the day, with any Zeena/Nikolas
supporters in the I*/II*/III* being bounced after Z & N resignations
(funny thing that, 'twas the HP Emeritus and the C9 that installed
those two as their staunchest supporters in *the first place*) and the
(despite certain protestations au contrair) installation of MAA into
the HP (again.)
I was never against Michael Aquino making the decisions in the TOS
when he was making *good* decisions. For *whatever* reason, he decided
to keep David Austen in the TOS (which I also complained about, but
was drowned out) and things went downhill from there.
The TOS rather fancies itself as some organization that has all its
"secrets" well hidden when in fact it has more leaks than the Titanic.
When recently asked "why" I don't "hate" the TOS for it's shoddy
treatment of me, my answer is three-fold:
One, It is to be *expected* that those acting on their lesser impulses
would move to expel a perfectly loyal Priest like myself because of
the "outrageousnesss" of his statements he *dared* make to the
governing body about their stupid decisions, which history has *now*
proven *me* correct about
and Two, the resultant chuckle I get when I see the ruthless
spin-doctoring occuring about same;
Further, I hold the *prior* TOS, and its history, in high regard,
before the days came when MAA stepped down from the HP in 1996,
rendering the TOS the flatulent entity it has now become.--SSS
Bood_Samel
from a bad call and moved on? What are the Schrecks' doing now? Did
they approach the TOS solely to subvert it, or take it over?
Also, I'm not involved in any groups so I don't have in house
knowledge to go on, what exactly do the Schrecks do? Like they made a
few wanna-be death in june albums, that Charles Manson video, oh and
they each wrote a book.I have no idea what their like in person, but
they seem rather silly. Why do people give them any credit at all if
they don't excel at applying occult ideas to the real world? She's not
ugly, but she's not all that hot or anything, so I hope it's not just
LBM tricks. How did they ever get as far as they did?
JokersWild
barlowan...@yahoo.com (BarlowandStraker) wrote in message news:<43bac385.03041...@posting.google.com>...
koalbla...@yahoo.com
of the game when he's as out as the Shrecks? I was in the TS for a bit
after Silvers left and everyone made him out to be crazy as a junebug.
BarlowandStraker
> of the game when he's as out as the Shrecks? I was in the TS for a bit
> after Silvers left and everyone made him out to be crazy as a junebug.
SSS--Whilst it is true I was born in June, I can't stand bugs! ;) As
to the two topics here:
First, as to my being crazy, people are quite at liberty to think (and
say) as they wish in this matter, as it is of no import in the larger
picture. Suffice to say that I am alive and well and not filling up
any padded cell...I am well aware of the TOS and its historical
aptitude for calling "crazy" any number of ex-members, in some cases
true, in other cases not quite so. In my own case, the source of any
ill tidings has come from one source; a very well placed source, and
one whose despicable actions have not been lost on me.
As to being on top of the game, so to speak, when I posted quite
accurately the information concerning the Schreck's tax troubles it
was of enough interest to Michael Aquino that he emailed me asking for
substantiation. This of course was no shock to myself, and I provided
him with the proof. Such proof is readily available for any who will
take the time to look for it. Of course, I can really be a work-horse
when it comes to those projects that interest me, and my apparent lack
of research on the one hand (as cited by several who are infuriated by
my refusal to index and cross reference every statement I make on
those topics discussed generally draw ire from them!) is
counterbalanced by an absolute tenacity on the other hand when it is
*really* necessary. Of course, I would have never made those
statements about the Schreck's were they not absolutely factual, and
had the requisite documentation, as that matter really interested me,
albeit for my own reasons.
Much the same thought and effort goes into my former school, the
TOS...You are free to take my postings as you will. Those who are "in
the know" know damn well I know what I am talking about. Now, off for
three weeks of Hell for finals...I send my very best regards to one
and all. :)--SSS
koalbla...@yahoo.com
> accurately the information concerning the Schreck's tax troubles it
> was of enough interest to Michael Aquino that he emailed me asking for
> substantiation. This of course was no shock to myself, and I provided
> him with the proof. Such proof is readily available for any who will
> take the time to look for it.
I apologize for being too vague in my question, as this was not was I
was looking for (at the time). More to the point, on what grounds are
you able to judge who is a "bad priest" when others have judged you
the same way with consistent grounds? Isn't it a common ploy in
organizations of any type to rally constantly against neer-do-wells
that one's own "neer-do-well"-ness might be overlooked?
I took a stroll through the LA Recorder's website. Couldn't even begin
to find where to look for the aforementioned tax info. Any
suggestions?
JokersWild
> So what is the TOS doing these days? Have they picked up the pieces
>How did they ever get as far as they did?
Two words: Anton LaVey.
BarlowandStraker
> > from a bad call and moved on? What are the Schrecks' doing now?...
> >How did they ever get as far as they did?
>
> Two words: Anton LaVey.
SSS--I suppose that, at first glance, the ASL answer would be very
inviting. After all, the idea that being able to "rope in" ASL's
daughter and her sidekick would be immensely satisfactory on one hand,
yet unbelievably ignorant on the other, would cause a clashing unlike
anything that was previously wrought...well, gee...I never really
believed MAA to be so petty as to simply desire to bring Zeena in as a
"token," so to speak, however, at second glance, it seems really
*improbable* that someone with his acumen, skill, and intelligence
would have any other motive...so I dunno. What I *do* know is that I
have finals...and you people keep *tempting* me to speak ;)...take
care all...---SSS
BarlowandStraker
> to find where to look for the aforementioned tax info. Any
> suggestions?
SSS--Absolutely.
from the public records of LA COUNTY/ RECORDER OF DEEDS:
Debtor: HELLHOUSE OF HOLLYWOOD, 8033 SUNSET BLVD. #1313, LOS ANGELES,
CALIFORNIA 9946. Creditor: STATE OF CALIFORNIA Amount: $13,428.
Number: 981722368 Type: State tax Lien Certificate No: W982261121
Entered: 09/23/1998
Debtor: HELLHOUSE OF HOLLYWOOD (DBA) 6666 Hollywood Blvd. #B
Hollywood, California 90028 Creditor: State of California Amount: $
3070.00 No: 98774280 Type: State Tax Lien Certificate No: 1144422
Entered: 05/07/98
And from the California Secretary of State UCC Record:
Debtor: Wolfslair, Inc. (Business) 8033 Sunset Blvd Ste 1313 Los
Angeles
California 90046 and Hellhouse of Hollywood 8033 Sunset Blvd Ste 1313
Hollywood California 90046 Secured Parties: Employment Development
Department
P.O. Box 826880 Sacramento, California 94280 Filing Date: 08/20/1998
Filing
Time: 8:00 a.m. Expiration Date 08/20/2008 Filing No: 9823660475
Status:
Active Type: State Tax Lien
--SSS
Kori Houghton
Okay. The third record seems to refer to Unemployment Taxes, withheld
by the Schrecks but not forwarded to the State of California. What
kind of taxes are involved in the other 2 liens?
Do y'all know that the HellHouse of Hollywood is for sale again?
Anyone want to buy it? The Confederacy? The Cluster? RFS? ToS?
CoS? Going once.... Do I see a bid from Ms. Rantsang? This would be
waaaay kewler than those eyes!
http://www.spookyworld.com/HellHouse/Html/HellHouseForSale.html
The exhibit is being described as a money-maker...so then why is it up
for sale? Does anyone know how much Spooky World paid the Schrecks
for HellHouse?
Kori
Kori Houghton
> > of the game when he's as out as the Shrecks? I was in the TS for a bit
> > after Silvers left and everyone made him out to be crazy as a junebug.
>
> SSS--Whilst it is true I was born in June, I can't stand bugs! ;)
Not even beetles?
Kori
Kori Houghton
> Why do people give them any credit at all if
> they don't excel at applying occult ideas to the real world? She's not
> ugly, but she's not all that hot or anything, so I hope it's not just
> LBM tricks. How did they ever get as far as they did?
Didn't you know that Zeena Schreck was Thomas Pynchon's inspiration
for the character of Mafia Winsome in _V._? She's, like, famous!
Mafia was "an authoress" whose "characters fell into this disturbingly
predictable racial alignment. The sympathetic -- those godlike,
inexhaustible sex athletes she used for heroes and heroines...were all
tall, strong, white though often robustly tanned (all over),
Anglo-Saxon, Teutonic and/or Scandinavian. Comic relief and villainy
were invariably the lot of Negroes, Jews and South European
immigrants." Her books were novels meant to illustrate her pet theory
of "Heroic Love" which "wasn't much of a Theory, more wishful thinking
on Mafia's part than anything else. There being but the single
proposition: the world can only be rescued from certain decay through
Heroic Love."
Explaining how Zeena managed to inspire the creation of this character
before she was even born I will leave as an exercise for the occultnik
student *^_^*
Kori
tim jordan
Please see inside text:
<snip>
> Didn't you know that Zeena Schreck was Thomas Pynchon's inspiration
> for the character of Mafia Winsome in _V._? She's, like, famous!
Nawwhh, I think she's more like Oedipa Maas from the Pynchon novel, "The
Crying of Lot 49." Just move the novel to San Franciso and morph ASL into
Pierce Inverarity and you got the whole magilla.
For those who aren't fans of Pynchon, this is a novel about Pierce
Inverarity's death and the settling of his estate. Oedipa, the protagonist
of the novel (and Pierce's former gal pal), is chosen as the executrix for
his estate (he's very wealthy). While Oedipa settles Pierce's estate she
finds that he appears to be involved with a group that represents itself
with a muted horn symbol and has something to do with a 17th-century play,
"The Courier's Tragedy" and a term from the play, "Tristero". In
researching the play and "Tristero" she finds that this invaribly leads back
to Pierce. The careful reader will note that Pierce is a jokester while
alive (he liked to play with his own voice doing impersonations) and this
could be a post-mortem elaborate joke that Inverarity has played on Oedipa.
The denouement consists of Oedipa realizing that she's isolated and lonely
while she waits for the auctioning off of Inverarity's stamp collection
listed as "Lot 49" and the identity of a secret bidder that might solve the
mystery.
Rather than boring those not interested in the play, you could see Aquino as
either Metzger or Dr. Hilarius and Lupo as Mike Fallopian.
<snip>
> Explaining how Zeena managed to inspire the creation of this character
> before she was even born I will leave as an exercise for the occultnik
> student *^_^*
You betcha.
Regards,
Harry Lime
http://www.harrylimetv.com
> Kori
tim jordan
Kori Houghton
> Dear Kori:
>
> Please see inside text:
>
> <snip>
> > Didn't you know that Zeena Schreck was Thomas Pynchon's inspiration
> > for the character of Mafia Winsome in _V._? She's, like, famous!
>
> Nawwhh, I think she's more like Oedipa Maas from the Pynchon novel, "The
> Crying of Lot 49." Just move the novel to San Franciso and morph ASL into
> Pierce Inverarity and you got the whole magilla.
Okay. Then the motto of the Confederacy should be Don't Ever
Antagonize The Horn!
Sheesh, this brings back fond memories of me'n my peeps drawing tiny
eyepatches on all the figures on US postage stamps back in our college
days.
Hmmm...didn't the Schrecks have a preference for hand-delivered mail?
This was mentioned somewhere in Hathor's cry-n-tell ebook, but I'm
feeling too lazy right now to look it up. Makes a good story, anyway!
Have you ever thought of having a show where the guests are dressed as
their favorite Pynchon character? That could be carnal, Harry, way
carnal.
Kori
Temple of Horus
> Not even beetles?
That would be a bit of a problem for one trying to *Xeper*. ;)
Scorpius +
Kori Houghton
Uh, yeah! Unless Mr. Silvers is borrowing, if not a page, a verse
from Liber AL. Considering your link, I thought you'd offer us a
Thelemic take on the matter. As in, say, Mad Mark Motta's propensity
for slaying beetles?
Kori
Temple of Horus
> Uh, yeah! Unless Mr. Silvers is borrowing, if not a page, a verse
> from Liber AL. Considering your link, I thought you'd offer us a
> Thelemic take on the matter.
You have a point. I was just staying with the Setian viewpoint,
Xeper=Khephra, and I doubt if 99.9% of people here even got *that*
joke.
> As in, say, Mad Mark Motta's propensity for slaying beetles?
I do have a connection to Motta through the A.'.A.'. lineage, but that
doesn't keep me from saying that he was more than a bit potty at
times. The Temple of Horus is quite obviously an LHP take on Thelema
based upon the Horus/Set dichotomy, which I doubt that old "Vicar of
Christ" Motta would have cared for all that much!
Scorpius +
Kori Houghton
Really? IIRC, Motta had some interesting things to say in his last
book concerning Set and the Priesthood of Set. It wasn't obvious
whether the comments were about the historical Egyptian version, or
the current ToS.
Why do you call the old sot "Vicar of Christ" Motta? Just curious....
Kori
Temple of Horus
> Really? IIRC, Motta had some interesting things to say in his last
> book concerning Set and the Priesthood of Set. It wasn't obvious
> whether the comments were about the historical Egyptian version, or
> the current ToS.
Probably the Ancient Egyptian version. That Crowley did identify
Aiwass as Set is not easily ignored, but you will find many
"Thelemites" trying to white-wash it.
> Why do you call the old sot "Vicar of Christ" Motta? Just curious....
He sometimes signed himself by that title. In all fairness, I must
admit that the "Christ" he was referring to was more likely Crowley,
whom he believed to be the true Messiah, even going so far as to say
that the Holocaust was divine punishment upon the Jews for not
accepting the Beast 666 as their Anointed King.
Scorpius +