"Delila" - The Christian, Rightist, Sex-Negative Liar . . . Exposed
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sheer number of vicious lies jumped right out at me.
Delila wrote:
>In Iceland, for example, porn is virtually non-existant,
Blatant lie. Underground porn has been extremely common in Iceland,
which is why the conservative government there has had to make
pornography *illegal.*
Yes, porn is outlawed in Iceland.
"Pornography is a punishable offence under the Penal Code and
producing, importing for distribution, selling, circulating or
propagating pornographic publications or pictures or other such
materials or putting such on public display and holding public
lectures or games which are similarly indecent is punishable by fine,
detention or up to six months' imprisonment." From
<http://www.sasian.org/legal/baltic/baltic3.htm>
>because there, people look on sex as the normal, natural thing it is.
LOL! If that were true, photos and movies of sex would not be
suppressed by the Icelandic government. It's hard to find porn out in
the open in Iceland because it is, well, suppressed by the government.
Duh.
>It's not considered any more or less important then any other 'urge'.
Huh? When did the island appoint you to speak for it?
>In
>Western society we went from not talking about sex at all to becoming
>obsessed with it.
ROTFLMAO! Gee, you really are a dumb Christian. (And yes, your
"Satanism" is an idiotic offshoot of Christianity, and hoax at that.)
Iceland *IS* a 'Western society'. Moreover, your statement is a lie.
>Neither phenomenon is healthy. I hope to see the day,
>when we as a whole grow up enough to put sex back into it's 'proper'
>place.
Your entire post is one big lie stringed together by ludicrously false
assumptions. I'll deconstruct it now:
Social and political movements that thrive on sexual repression are
*uniformly* anti-pornography. Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and the
Taliban, all well known repressive regimes, outlawed pornography
altogether. Today, as always, all the groups that are sexually
repressive -- the Christian Coalition, the Moral Majority, the
Republican Party of the US, the National Front of France, the Promise
Keepers, etc., ad infinitum, are virulently anti-porn. On the other
hand, sexual liberationist forces of the past and present -- e.g.,
Block, Queen, Bright, Ginsberg, Anti-Puritan Action, The Sex Positive
network, etc -- are *without exception* pro-pornography. And why not?
It would make no sense at all to support sexual freedom yet oppose the
freedom to make documentaries of it!
And much of the porn out here is exactly that -- just a documentary of
people enjoying themselves sexually. That kind of thing was around in
Paleolithic times and will always be around. A good deal of porn is
amateur, i.e. made for fun and self expression with no money involved.
Only a profoundly sex-negative fool could claim that pictures and
movies of sex are symptoms of sexual repression.
I'll close by posting an article by Dr. Susan Block, the feminist,
where she reviews porn by Catherine Millet, one of the most sexually
liberated women in French academia. Ms Millet loves to be gang banged;
you would call this an "obsession," but actually it is what comes
naturally to sexually liberated women. After all, it is an established
fact (see Money, Bey, etc) that women are evolutionary driven to crave
multiple sex partners in the same setting. It's idiots like you (a
Republican male who hides behind a beautiful female name) who do their
best to infuse women with guilt over their sexuality . . . and thus
perpetuate repression of *all* kinds.
The Gangbang Asthete
The Sexual Life Catherine M.
by Dr. Susan Block
In The Sexual Life of Catherine M., celebrated French intellectual
Catherine Millet gives us pornography that is both high-brow and
profound, as well as literature that is both exciting and filthy.
Millet writes with the cool, discerning eye of the art critic that she
is, examining her orgiastic adventures, fantasies, blowjobs, anal
probings and orgasms, as she might a series of sculptures or
paintings.
My favorite parts describe the gangbangs. One woman and thirty men
sounds like good odds to me. The venues are also exciting: the Bois de
Boulogne, a French Villa, various parks and parking lots. Millet is
not the first woman to enjoy having sex with several men (and a few
women) at once. Many ladies enjoy and excell at group action: the
swinger chick, the town slut, the cheerleader that sucks off the
football team, the porn starlet who wins the consensual gangbang
contest. However, such women tend not to talk about their experiences
much, for a variety of reasons. For one, their mouths are filled with
cock.
Even though Millet maintains, in her feminine way, that she is not a
feminist, her book is an eloquent celebration of women's sexual power.
No man can do this. A man may have a harem with 100 women in it, but
he can't fuck all of them in one night. Whereas Catherine fucks 100
men in a night with some regularity, and with little difficulty except
a bit of soreness between the thighs. Then, you realize why men have
guarded, enslaved and punished women for millenia. Because every woman
can do this.
Not that it takes any great physical ability. And certainly no mental
talent. Of course, it takes stamina. But just about any reasonably
healthy young or middle-aged woman can plunk herself down on a coffee
table or park bench and spread her legs for numerous men to fuck her
as she strokes and sucks and plays with the various cocks that
surround her.
And yet it is an achievement. Even a great achievement. Because,
though every woman can do this, most women don't--for fear of being
labeled a slut, or because no one asks them, or because they are so
indoctrinated into the idea of one man per woman, that it doesn't even
occur to them.
Thus, very few women write about it, even fewer writing about it well
enough for respectable people to read. The Sexual Life of Catherine M.
serves up an art critic's detailed, almost dispassionate perspective
of being in the center of a gigantic gangbang. The book makes you feel
that this is, in a way, what women's bodies are built for, to lie like
an egg, waiting to be fertilized by millions of sperm, penetrated by
dozens of cocks, fucked by dozens of men, all vying politely to get
inside. Or, as Millet herself alludes, like a spider in her very
sticky web.
My least favorite parts of the book are the ones about dirt. This is
not just "dirty" in a spiritual sense, as in "talking dirty," although
Millet covers that subject pretty well too. This is dirt in the sense
of real, physical grime, crud (human and otherwise) and lack of a
shower. We Americans already tend to think that the French don't bathe
enough (thus, the fabulous perfumes), and Catherine M. confirms all
our worst fears about this aspect of the French. She's constantly
having sex in filth with dirty disgusting men with rotten teeth and
foul smells. It's a wonder she hasn't picked up a lot more than just
"the clap" along the way. She calls it raising herself "above
prejudice." I call it yucky.
But she does seem to know what she's doing. The Sexual Life of
Catherine M. solidifies a belief that Americans already have, that is,
that Frenchwomen KNOW about sex, dirty and otherwise. Other
Frenchwomen who wrote about sex from "the woman's point of view,"
shocking the cultures of their time, include Colette, whose novels of
the pleasures and pains of love foreshadow Millet with their exact
evocation of sounds, smells, tastes, textures, and colors, and Anais
Nin who wasn't actually French, but lived in Paris when she wrote her
famous Delta of Venus and House of Incest. Then there's Simone de
Beauvoir, she of The Second Sex, and, Pauline Reage of The Story of O.
Now we have Catherine Millet, gangbang asthete.
It makes you wonder: Is there something about being French or living
in France that gives women the talent to be their sexual selves, and
then to describe female sexuality in such a way that captures the
imagination of an international generation? Is it the joie de vivre?
Le plaisir? La Cuisine? The art that is everywhere you turn?
Part of the excitement of The Sexual Life of Catherine M. is that
Catherine Millet is a celebrity in France, and she is not a sex
celebrity, but a famous, distinguished art critic. That makes it all
the more exciting. She is a highly respectable person talking about
something not at all respectable.
The other day, I was interviewed for "The Good News," a new show on
France's Canal+ TV, about whether I thought the American publication
of The Sexual Life of Catherine M. might set off some kind of sexual
revolution here. It's true that the French have been helping us
Americans with our revolutions ever since the Revolutionary War that
gained our so-called independence from the Brits. "Will Millet's sex
memoirs, already on the NY Times Bestseller list, as it has graced the
bestseller lists of many European journals, revolutionize Americans?"
Canal+ wanted to know.
Well, we already have consensual gangbangs. We also have quite a few
intellectuals writing porn, from Camille Paglia to Carol Queen, not to
mention Nicholas Baker. Of course, Americans don't celebrate female
intellectuals like the French do. And Madonna did her SEX book a
decade ago.
Though The Sexual Life of Catherine M. probably won't set off an
American revolution, at least not on its own, it may well encourage a
lot more intellectuals, artists, writers and celebrities to write
their sex memoirs. Hopefully, this will be a good thing for those of
us who appreciate literature and/or porn. Hopefully, we won't be
saying "Oh no, not another erotic memoir by a celebrated
intellectual!" in a couple of years.
The Canal+ folks asked me if I thought Catherine M. was shocking
Americans. I don't think it shocks us to see that the French are
writing about sex. Isn't that what they specialize in, besides crepes
suzettes?
But what about an American celebrity? I've been fantasizing about
which respected female American celebrity might shock us to our
all-American cores with a book of sex memoirs. Maybe Barbara Walters?
The Sexual Life of Barbara W? Or how about Julia R? Tina B? Hillary
Rodham C? Who will it be?
Dr. Susan Block is a sex educator, host of The Dr. Susan Block Show
and author of The 10 Commandments of Pleasure. Visit her website at
http://www.drsusanblock.com.
Lisa
number of vicious lies jumped right out at me.>>
Perhaps my memory is faulty, but isn't "Delilah" an admitted, for-pay
dominatrix?
If so, what right does she of all people have to be blathering on about
"normal, natural sex" and the wonders of that progressive nation Iceland
"banning" porn? (Yeah sure it's banned: they must have computers banned there,
too. If you've got a comp, you can get porn - that's just reality.)
<< In Western society we went from not talking about sex at all to becoming
obsessed with it. >>
<<ROTFLMAO! >>
Uh, ditto. The dominatix finds "obssession" with sex to be a bad thing.
Okay..... that could happen. Consistency, thou art a jewel.
If "Delilah" is a dominatrix, great. Her business. Just try to keep the
self-righteous rants about "Neither phenomenon is healthy. I hope to see the
day, when we as a whole grow up enough to put sex back into it's 'proper'
place" down to a dull roar, how 'bout it?
She'd look far less silly that way; a sex-business entrepreneur preaching about
the evils of sexual obsession! ROTFL!
<<Your entire post is one big lie stringed together by ludicrously false
assumptions. I'll deconstruct it now:>>
No shocks there - look who she hangs around with.
L.
StormyHeather1
> <<This post of rightist asshole "Delila's" is a bit dated. Even so, its sheer
> number of vicious lies jumped right out at me.>>
>
> Perhaps my memory is faulty, but isn't "Delilah" an admitted, for-pay
> dominatrix?
I dont follow this group much-but I think so. Makes " her " quite the
hypocrite does it not!!
>
> If so, what right does she of all people have to be blathering on about
> "normal, natural sex" and the wonders of that progressive nation Iceland
> "banning" porn? (Yeah sure it's banned: they must have computers banned there,
> too. If you've got a comp, you can get porn - that's just reality.)
True-the internet makes censorship more difficult than ever. &thank
the lard for that!
>
> << In Western society we went from not talking about sex at all to becoming
> obsessed with it. >>
>
> <<ROTFLMAO! >>
>
> Uh, ditto. The dominatix finds "obssession" with sex to be a bad thing.
> Okay..... that could happen. Consistency, thou art a jewel.
>
> If "Delilah" is a dominatrix, great. Her business. Just try to keep the
> self-righteous rants about "Neither phenomenon is healthy. I hope to see the
> day, when we as a whole grow up enough to put sex back into it's 'proper'
> place" down to a dull roar, how 'bout it?
>
> She'd look far less silly that way; a sex-business entrepreneur preaching about
> the evils of sexual obsession! ROTFL!
Yes&she seems to define " obsession " as anything besides monogamous
sex in the missionary position . . .
I think-having a lot of sex w/ different partners should be a woman's
right too, not just a mans&I guess that makes me sexually " obsessed "
according to the fake domina!
>
> <<Your entire post is one big lie stringed together by ludicrously false
> assumptions. I'll deconstruct it now:>>
>
> No shocks there - look who she hangs around with.
>
> L.
Indeed - I thought the LaVey cult was goofy until I saw the " Satanic
Reds. "
" Former " Christians with wayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands, I
suppose. :)
Heather
bluskie
> This post of rightist asshole "Delila's" is a bit dated. Even so, its
> sheer number of vicious lies jumped right out at me.
>
> Delila wrote:
> >In Iceland, for example, porn is virtually non-existant,
>
RadcalOld
"bluskie" <wildbl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a9dd1b95.02111...@posting.google.com...
Oh ! Do not leave just yet.. We have much work to do in improveing your
demeanure.
First we will work on eliminating your lust for porn.
And I certainly do not have to go to Iceland to assist you in your
problems....
The doctor is in....