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Sailing Characteristics Beneteau Oceanis 350 ???

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Chris Lytken

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Dec 9, 2001, 11:50:49 PM12/9/01
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Sailing characteristics of Bebeteau Oceanis 350

Would like to hear from people having experience with sailing the Oceanis
350.
Esecially when to reef, what sails in which conditions?
Stability in strong wind and waves?
350 for cruising long distance ?

etc....


Rich Hampel

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Dec 10, 2001, 2:20:38 AM12/10/01
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The Capsize ratio is greater than 2.0 ....meaning this is not a boat for
long voyages on the open ocean. I'd be extremely wary of the large
cockpit especially with respect to a large boarding wave.
Also, The relatively light weight hull with a relatively flat bottom
will pound in heavy going, will react to accelerational forces more than
a typical blue water boat, and you will have to constantly steer to keep
course. Such reactions of acceleration will tire out a crew in no time.
Any boat can go long distances, it all depends on how experienced and
how 'athletic' your crew is.
A B350 in my mind is strictly a coastal boat, I dont think you will
appreciate this boat when fully loaded with long distance stores and is
deep in the water and no longer can sail on her normal lines.
Personally for me (I occasionally crew on a B350) this boat needs barber
haulers to bring the jib leads more toward the centerline to get better
upwind capability.

James Gillmore

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Dec 10, 2001, 5:02:06 PM12/10/01
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Rich,
What boat would you suggest for blue waters. Say a cruise to the
Caribbean from Delaware Bay? Something that could be handled by a small
crew?
Jim

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Rich Hampel

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Dec 10, 2001, 5:45:00 PM12/10/01
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Depends on your experience and pocketbook. My preference is to buy the
LONGEST waterline length that you can afford.
Actually from the DelBay to the Caribbean is actually a coastal trip,
even from NC direct to PR if you carefully watch for a clear weather
window.
Ive have a marina mate on the Ches. that routinely goes direct to BVI
with a B40... but he does take lots of crew.
I have a Tayana, so if bad weather catches me I simply heave-to and
enjoy resting and reading below.
A good comparison of blue water boats can be found @
http://www1.iwvisp.com/jholtrop/Articles/best.htm .... follow the
underlined links from there for evaluation factors. Take a good look at
or calculate "roll acceleration" of a B350 vs. true blue water boats.
... that will give you some indication of how tired and how seasick
you'll be in open water.

Also for boat vs. boat comparison go to http://www.image-ination.com/sailcalc.html

Rich Hampel

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Dec 11, 2001, 1:10:11 AM12/11/01
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Chris Lytken, your email address is not working!

CAPSIZE RISK ............

from: http://www.johnsboatstuff.com/Articles/design.htm

CAPSIZE RISK = beam/(disp/(.9*64))^.333
Displacement is in pounds, Beam is in feet (english system units)

A seaworthiness factor derived from the USYRU analysis of the 1979
FASTNET Race, funded by the Society of Navel Architects and Marine
Engineers. Values less than 2 are good. The formula penalizes wide boats
for their high inverted stability and light weight boats because of
their violent response to large waves. All multi hulls, some modern
coastal cruisers and many racing designs have problems meeting this
criteria. Since safety is a very important feature in a cruising boat,
Selected values less than 1.8 for full credit. Anything over 2 scores zero.

Also go to: http://www.image-ination.com/sailcalc.html will do the
calculations for you. This source lists capsize risk as "capsize
ratio".

also: http://www.anyboat.com/capsize.htm

also go to http://www.google.com and enter "capsize risk" and then
"capsize ratio" (use the quotation marks: on each end of the phrase
.... "capsize risk" NOT capsize risk ).
This will link you to approximately 150 articles on "capsize ratio" or
"capsize risk"
http://www.google.com is probably the ***fastest*** search engine on the internet

bitte schön

Rich.

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