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X-YACHTS, any opinions?

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Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Hello,

I am interested in purchasing a boat made by X-Yachts in Denmark and was
wondering what the general concensus is in regards to their build quality,
design, performance, and resale. Please email me with any of your opinions.

Also, I am having a tough time tracking down performance numbers for their
boats. Any PHRF or CHS numbers that I can use to compare their performance
vs. Baltic Yachts vs. Nautor Swans, etc..

Regards,

Marc Lefebvre
lefe...@iWaveSolutions.com


Rich Hampel

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Looks like the X will devastate a Baltic or Swan ---> http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm

Alan Grim

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Which X-yacht in particular? There are quite a few.

Bumper7

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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"Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am interested in purchasing a boat made by X-Yachts in Denmark and was
> wondering what the general concensus is in regards to their build quality,
> design, performance, and resale. Please email me with any of your opinions.
>
> Also, I am having a tough time tracking down performance numbers for their
> boats. Any PHRF or CHS numbers that I can use to compare their performance
> vs. Baltic Yachts vs. Nautor Swans, etc..

PHRF Northwest: http://www.phrf-nw.org and you will find several X-boats. I've
raced against an X-99 which rates just slower than Olson 30, and an X-102 (also
called X-342 - Former Racing Boat of the Year in Puget Sound) and several 40 ft
X-119 that are very fast when sailed by good crew (which is more to the point,
i.e. you must sail with experienced, knowledgeable people to have success with
any race boat.) There was an Xboat in this years Pacific Cup (downwind run to
Hawaii) http://www.pacificcup.org which was dismasted on the return.

Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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>Which X-yacht in particular? There are quite a few.

The X-562 in particular...

Regards,

Marc Lefebvre
lefe...@iWaveSolutions.com

cameronpetrie

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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there is an X 332 over in the Firth of Forth (Scotland) very fast boat. although
on its delivery voyage it encountered 50+ knots of wind - shredded sails and is
engine got flooded by a design fault with the exhaust or some other external
aperture.

"Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am interested in purchasing a boat made by X-Yachts in Denmark and was
> wondering what the general concensus is in regards to their build quality,
> design, performance, and resale. Please email me with any of your opinions.
>
> Also, I am having a tough time tracking down performance numbers for their
> boats. Any PHRF or CHS numbers that I can use to compare their performance
> vs. Baltic Yachts vs. Nautor Swans, etc..
>

> Regards,
>
> Marc Lefebvre
> lefe...@iWaveSolutions.com


Tore Johannesen

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Oct 13, 2000, 2:07:31 AM10/13/00
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Hello,

As I can see from the answers you get, people are thinking of X-yachts as
racing boats, but in generel they are not. They have their special line for
that, called IMX or Sport. All the other (today) X-yachts are fast crising
SAILbotas, bulld to last.

Tore Johannesen

Denmark (no I'm not working at X-yachts)

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Juha Hänninen

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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I have raced the X-99 for a couple of years. It was fast and fun to sail and
well built. It was not difficult to handle but to get the most of it, it had
to driven and trimmed well.

Most X-boats are cruising boats that have a very functional interior. Even
the X-99 with it's minimal interior works very well in offshore racing, it
has good seaberths. (It's not particularly an offshore boat, more inshore)
The compromise with space and performance is on the performance side and
that suits me very well.

Haven't seen any of the bigger X-yachts around here, but the IMX-38, X-119,
X-99 and X-332 have been very succesful in racing here.

Juha


Alan Grim

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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I can't fing any X-562s in particular but you can compare other
X-Yachts. Here's a couple of links to get you started.

http://www.pipeline.com/~wayneb/phrflis.htm#x

http://www.phrf-nw.org/publications.htm

I raced on a J41 for awhile. We competed continually with a X-119 that
rated about the same. Nice boat and very fast. I never saw the
interior but understand that it was very plush.

"Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)" wrote:
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Stefan Lloyd

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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There are now 15+ X332's racing in the Solent (UK) - they have been growing
steadily for several years here. Also a smaller number of X362's. Both boats are
definitely competitive in IRC (which has replaced CHS), and would also make good
fast cruisers. I've crewed on both, and been impressed. They seem robust and
well thought through. They are not one-designs, so the IRC numbers vary slightly
from boat-to-boat, but around 1.031 for the X362 and 0.999 for the X332 seem
typical. Very few second hand examples of either have come up for sale here, so
I can't comment on resale values. The larger X-Yachts seem less popular here.

The X99 and X119 were quite different - fast and very light one design race
boats. While the X99 was very successful in much of Europe, it was less so in
the UK, possibly because there was already a widespread one-design of the same
size (Sigma/33), and because CHS, the dominant rating system here, was not kind
to light displacement boats. That said, there are enough X99's here to run a
Nationals.

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Stefan Lloyd

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