Showing again Dec 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
http://dsc.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=23349&gid=0&channel=DSC
10: Lemon Shark--8 feet, great night vision, likes shallow waters.
9. Blue Shark--8' - 13', Fastest shark.
8. Hammerhead Shark--Fastest turning, 7 senses
7. Sand Tiger Shark (Grey Nurse Shark)--10' - 14', found in numbers
around shipwrecks and plane crashes.
6. Grey Reef Shark--fights over food, attacks each other in mass feedings
5. Short Fin Mako--6' - 12' Fastest shark. Exceptional jumpers
4. Ocean White Tip--best sense of smell, numerous, very hungry.
3. Tiger Shark--10' - 20' and will eat anything
2. Great White--14' to 23' long. Attack from underneath into the air.
1. Bull Shark--8' long. Found in fresh up to 300 miles up river and salt
water--even some lakes. They sometimes school in large groups. Many
previous attacks attributed to the Great White were probably Bull
Sharks
--the most deadly shark.
More information
I found it interesting that the ocean sharks are among the
most persistent and aggressive--because food is less abundant
offshore--something to think about.
I was also expecting the Bull to be #2 and the Great White to
be #1.
RB
35s5...sharkproof!
NY
I don't go into the bush unarmed... and I follow that rule in the water.
CM
"Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message
> Good show on the Discovery Channel on the
> 10 most dangerous sharks.
>
> Showing again Dec 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
> While I'm certain I could survive an attack due to my speed and
> strength, I'd do better not dealing with an animal as large as the
> White or Tiger. BTW, a Great White typically swims at a few knots with
> max speed of 15-20 MPH. A Blue shark can attain 60 MPH in short bursts.
> Pretty amazing.
Just ask "Two Bite Bob" for any info on how to evade shark attacks..... :-)
CM
Sure, do what Sloco does and stay away from the water.
RB
35s5
NY
I've handled a Spitting Cobra in the years when my father did lectures
for the NY Zoological Society, but it does not make them safe. I've
handled a lot of deadly animals in fact....Coral snakes, Eastern
Diamond Backs and even a darling little Brazillian Yellow scorpion,
whose sting is pretty awful. Don't play with them...and don't screw
with sharks.
RB
35s5
NY
Nurse sharks & sand sharks can be dangerous under some
circumstance... while it's not difficult to identify feeding
cues for them, it is difficult to tell when they'll strike.
In bright light, in shallow water, a well fed reef (nurse or
sand) shark is no more dangerous than a kitten... feeding
cues are totally absent... safe for people to get their
picture taken cuddling them!
Hammerheads can definitely be killers. I'm surprised they're
not higher up the list, although maybe it's because they
don't usually grow big enough to seem like a threat.
But even a relatively small shark can cause a serious enough
injury to be fatal, and once blood is in the water then all
the sharks within reach will attack.
But the statistics show that sharks really aren't that
dangerous... more people die of bee stings every year.
DSK
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The gore associated with such an attack, played up by Hollywood to
great effect has made shark attack appear to be a rough way to go. The
man eating shark does manage to be a true monster capable of living up
to it's billing. Burning is worse as is slow suffocation.
RB
35s5
NY
"Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message news:1KIif.14303$mM2....@fe09.lga...
The list was based on the number of attacks and
the number of fatalities. The number of fatalities
was pretty low 0 to 3 fatalities at the bottom of the
list, increasing to138 for the Great White.
Many of these sharks hit and run.
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/sharks1.html
"DSK" <d...@dontbotherme.com> wrote
http://www.newenglandsharks.com/shortfin.htm
"Capt.Mooron" <over...@emplybottle.com> wrote
katy
"Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message news:1KIif.14303$mM2....@fe09.lga...
katy
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"jlrogers" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote
"Dave" <Da...@nothere.com> wrote
DSK <d...@dontbotherme.com> said:
>
>>But the statistics show that sharks really aren't that
>>dangerous... more people die of bee stings every year.
> Suppose that might be affected by the relative numbers of people who come
> in
> contact with bees vs. the number coming in contact with sharks?
For me it's a tie. I'd like to see you stung by a bee, then eaten by a
shark. Or either-or is okay with me.
RB
35s5
NY
katy
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Fun eh?
"katysails" <katy...@netscape.com> wrote
> How reassuring...I Guess I won't be checking out our bottom any time soon
> with the snorkle...
> "Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote \
http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/barracuda_small.jpg
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> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:16:24 -0500, "Bart Senior" <.@.> scribbled
> thusly:
>
> >I would rather die from a bee sting, than be turned
> >into shark shit!
>
> No you wouldn't.
> Shark bite is from all accounts painless and quick as bloodloss is
> massive from either a severed limb or sectioned torso.
> Death from anaphalactic shock is a slow horrible death as the patient
> struggles to breathe.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
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> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:13:38 -0500, "katysails"
> <katy...@netscape.com> scribbled thusly:
>
> >You go shocky and euphoric and then pass out....I know this...I'd rather
go
> >that way then by being bitten by a shark...
> >
>
> Some do, others are wide awake, slowly suffocating until they pass out
> from lack of oxygen.
> The fear in their eyes until then is something you never forget.
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<OzOne> wrote in message news:i3bno1h5v3q6eph1k...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:08:59 -0800, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
> scribbled thusly:
>
>>Last I was in BVI, we had a 3 foot barracuda underneath the catamaran for
>>several hours. It seemed to like the shade, so at one point I opened up
>>the
>>emergency hatch in the head and reached out and tried to grab the tail. He
>>sure didn't like that at all, but didn't get me. Still it stuck around for
>>hours.
>>
>>http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/barracuda_small.jpg
>
> Now they're scary!
> Many years ago, we were in Tahiti on one of the outer islands.
> Water was absolutely crystal clear but shallow and full of coral heads
> so we were anchored about a mile out in this pristine sand bottomed
> bay.
> Dinghy was onshore so I jumped in and started swimming to shore.
> I noticed a flash out of the corner of my eye and soo saw a big
> barracouta circling me and getting closer.
> It moved a little off then came in very fast straight at my face.
> I dodged and it went right past, turned and came back.
> This time I lashed out at it and it took off back into the circling.
>
> I then realised that I was wearing a thin gold necklace (as was the
> fashion then), and this may have attracted it.
> Pulled it off and stuck it in my trunks.
> Barra did another few circles and swam off.
>
> Never swum with any jewellery, even a watch since then.
"katysails" <katy...@netscape.com> wrote
> You go shocky and euphoric and then pass out....I know this...I'd rather
> go
> that way then by being bitten by a shark...
> <OzOne> wrote in message
> news:l48no15mrcjls8fij...@4ax.com...
>> "Bart Senior" <.@.> scribbled thusly:
Oh Lordy, my sides ache...
Seahag
> Now they're scary!
You Big Pansy!
> Many years ago, we were in Tahiti on one of the outer islands.
> Water was absolutely crystal clear but shallow and full of coral heads
> so we were anchored about a mile out in this pristine sand bottomed
> bay.
> Dinghy was onshore so I jumped in and started swimming to shore.
> I noticed a flash out of the corner of my eye and soo saw a big
> barracouta circling me and getting closer.
They sort of materialize out of nowhere.... I swam up to a 4+ footer in
Brewer's Bay. What a snaggle tooth grin that fish had.
> It moved a little off then came in very fast straight at my face.
> I dodged and it went right past, turned and came back.
> This time I lashed out at it and it took off back into the circling.
Woooooo.....
> I then realised that I was wearing a thin gold necklace (as was the
> fashion then), and this may have attracted it.
> Pulled it off and stuck it in my trunks.
Maybe it was the gold braid on your Greek Fisherman's cap.... I can't
believe you would swim with jewelery on..... I mean how "Italian" is that!?
> Barra did another few circles and swam off.
If you had a spear pole .... he would have been dinner on the first pass.
>
> Never swum with any jewellery, even a watch since then.
Still wear the hat???
CM
> Italian?
> Ohhh that's right, no woman has ever thought enough of you to buy you
> anything but a condom...or even two.
Try as I might...... I fail to comprehend why you would settle for
jewelery over pussy.??????
> Yeah, I always swim with a spear....makes the going easy.
So-o-o-o.... you panicked and screamed into your snorkle like a little
girl??
> Yep, still do, and not one of those stupid ball caps that leave your
> ears exposed to the sun...
Oh!... you went with the extra wide brim to cover the jug ears?
CM
"katysails" <katy...@netscape.com> wrote in message
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> How reassuring...I Guess I won't be checking out our bottom any time soon
> with the snorkle...
>
> katy
> "Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message
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>> Good show on the Discovery Channel on the
>> 10 most dangerous sharks.
>>
>> Showing again Dec 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
>>
>>
> http://dsc.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=23349&gid=0&channel=DSC
>>
>> 10: Lemon Shark--8 feet, great night vision, likes shallow waters.
>> 9. Blue Shark--8' - 13', Fastest shark.
>> 8. Hammerhead Shark--Fastest turning, 7 senses
>> 7. Sand Tiger Shark (Grey Nurse Shark)--10' - 14', found in numbers
>> around shipwrecks and plane crashes.
>> 6. Grey Reef Shark--fights over food, attacks each other in mass
> feedings
>> 5. Short Fin Mako--6' - 12' Fastest shark. Exceptional jumpers
>> 4. Ocean White Tip--best sense of smell, numerous, very hungry.
>> 3. Tiger Shark--10' - 20' and will eat anything
>> 2. Great White--14' to 23' long. Attack from underneath into the air.
>> 1. Bull Shark--8' long. Found in fresh up to 300 miles up river and salt
>> water--even some lakes. They sometimes school in large groups. Many
>> previous attacks attributed to the Great White were probably Bull
>> Sharks
>> --the most deadly shark.
>>
>> More information
>>
>> http://www.sharks.com/
>>
>> I found it interesting that the ocean sharks are among the
>> most persistent and aggressive--because food is less abundant
>> offshore--something to think about.
>>
>> I was also expecting the Bull to be #2 and the Great White to
>> be #1.
>>
>>
>
>
http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/topics/p_warm_bodied.htm
<OzOne> wrote
> "Bart Senior" <.@.> scribbled thusly:
>>I plan to spend my life at the top of the food chain!
> Now there's a plan!
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
"Capt.Mooron" <over...@emplybottle.com> wrote
> <OzOne> waxes Barracuda in message
>> I then realised that I was wearing a thin gold necklace (as was the
>> fashion then), and this may have attracted it.
>> Pulled it off and stuck it in my trunks.
>> Barra did another few circles and swam off.
> If you had a spear pole .... he would have been dinner on the first pass.
Very tasty fish! The best! And edible if they are not too large.
>> Never swum with any jewellery, even a watch since then.
>> CM
Good idea.
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"Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message news:nu0jf.34628$7n6....@fe08.lga...
"Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> wrote
Last I was in BVI, we had a 3 foot barracuda underneath the catamaran
for
several hours. It seemed to like the shade, >>>>>>>>>
Let me guess .......... Cooper Island?
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Lots of those in that area.
"Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> wrote
> Actually, it was off Norman.
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We saw them everywhere: Marina Cay, at The Indians, Jost VanDyke at both
Little and Greater Harbors, Peter Island, Cooper, and swam with them over
the reef north of Virgin Gorda. They'll leave you alone if you don't screw
with them. One was waiting patiently just off the stern of a large
catamaran with a tiny, yappy dog bouncing all over the swim platform on one
of the hulls. If the dog had slipped off the boat, he'd have been lunch.
Max
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"Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> wrote
> Well, you could have helped.
> "Maxprop" <max...@propshaft.end> wrote
> Well, you could have helped.
We watched with fascination--we were moored at the Indians about 30 yards
off the stern of the catamaran--because the pooch slipped from time to time
and almost fell in. The barracuda swam just below the surface (unusual, I
suppose), angled up toward the dog. He knew a tasty treat when he saw it.
We didn't want the dog to become a 'cuda snack, but we would have been
powerless to do anything about it if he'd fallen in. I think we assumed the
owners to be idiots for letting him bark loudly in a quiet anchorage/mooring
field, and would deserve what they got if the dog went over.
Max
Same goes for Tiger, Hammerhead and Lemon Sharks... I swam in water that was
full of them.... never even paid me any attention.
...and many times with sharks around I was actively spearfishing.
CM
"Maxprop" <max...@propshaft.end> wrote in message
> We watched with fascination--we were moored at the Indians about 30 yards
"Capt.Mooron" <over...@emplybottle.com> wrote
Understand you're not on their "menu".... but accidents and idiocy provoke
attacks. Try Paga Pago Harbour on a night dive with Hammerheads..... better
yet, tack welding zincs to a Korean Longliner at the outlet for the tuna
processing plant. Now you have sharks... lots and they are feeding... and
I'm only making $25/hr. down there.
CM
"Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message news:cuqjf.35729$7n6....@fe08.lga...
Yappy dog... for sure. Help is always available. <g>
Maybe the cuda was hawking the dog's shiny tag or something. If the fish
didn't find something of interest in the dog, I seriously doubt it would
have been hovering just under the surface off the stern of the cat.
> Same goes for Tiger, Hammerhead and Lemon Sharks... I swam in water that
> was full of them.... never even paid me any attention.
Are you a lawyer? That would explain it.
> ...and many times with sharks around I was actively spearfishing.
If they'd gotten a whiff of the blood from your speared fish, they'd have
taken notice. Ever seen a feeding frenzy up close and personal?
Max
I guess you could always shove the welder down the
gullet of any shark that was bothering you, provided
the Tiger didn't hit you with a sneak attack, instead of
a bump and bite.
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CM
"Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote in message news:dIwjf.22041$mM2....@fe09.lga...
> Are you a lawyer? That would explain it.
I consider myself a predator... far more dangerous than a shark.
>
>> ...and many times with sharks around I was actively spearfishing.
>
> If they'd gotten a whiff of the blood from your speared fish, they'd have
> taken notice. Ever seen a feeding frenzy up close and personal?
I use a paralyzer tip ... blood alone may do it after a while but fish
struggling at the end of a pole is like a dinner bell. The paralyzer stops
that... and I get the fish out of the water in a hurry. Never had a
problem.
CM
We did a shark dive (with experienced guides, etc.) in the Bahamas some
years back. Let me tell you it was terrifying, all those monsters darting
around at top speed when they released the chum and feed fish. Why one or
more of us didn't get at least hit by accident is a mystery to me. Perhaps
we gave off a smell or electrical sensation that didn't appeal to the
sharks, or maybe they see better than reported. But it was something I
wouldn't repeat on a bet.
Max
Imagine if you will the commercial dock beside the Starkist Tuna Plant in
Pago. The water isn't the clearest to begin with, but while placing the 10th
or so zinc to the hull of a filthy Korean Longliner, the plant decides to
vent it's processing waste into the water beside you. The 2 or 3 sharks you
did notice before no become the 20+ as the water becomes clouded with blood
and fish guts. The Korean crew is yelling gibberish at me and pointing to
the dorsals behind me while loading more zincs to the basket.
Tell you what..... I was frickin' nervous placing the remaining 10 zincs.
CM
I did one of those hang off the side of the boat while someone feeds
the sharks in Tahiti thing. I was totally streched out, holding onto
the side of the boat with my feet (they said we had to stay attached
to the boat), because I wanted to get some close up pics of the sharks
feeding. It wasn't scary at all. Several passed within a couple of
feet of me, and were totally uninterested. All they wanted was the
food.
Scotty
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> How reassuring...I Guess I won't be checking out our bottom any
time soon
> ...
>
> katy
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His not using soap may have something to do with it as well.
Scotty
SV
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> "Bart Senior" <.@.> wrote
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