I really like this boat.
Ellen MacArthur
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26 when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.
Cheers,
Ellen
JonBoy
baby-shit-colored Crapanado?
"Ellen MacArthur" <El...@highlatitudes.invalid> wrote in message
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Joe
JonBoy wrote:
> I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
> baby-shit-colored Crapanado?
Baby Shit? I thought it was piss yeller.
Joe
Ellen MacArthur
"JonBoy" <J...@bigshow.com> wrote
>I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old baby-shit-colored Crapanado?
My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle Niño.
Here's a picture. http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242
Cheers,
Ellen
scbafreak via BoatKB.com
I couldn't see the pics in the link. Is there something I need to make sure
I have in order to view?
As for the boat I can't say that it is my particular choice in boat but it is
nice and actually is a sailboat as opposed to the Mac. I saw one of those
and I really was dissapointed that anyone would do that to fiberglass then
call it a boat. really I lost a little faith in humanity.
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Maxprop
"Ellen MacArthur" <El...@highlatitudes.invalid> wrote in message
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It would look ever so much better after the application of a couple of
gallons of bright yellow paint.
Max
Maxprop
"Ellen MacArthur" <El...@highlatitudes.invalid> wrote in message
When did you sell the Trump Princess?
Max
JonBoy
"Joe" <steelr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> JonBoy wrote:
>> I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
>> baby-shit-colored Crapanado?
>
> Baby Shit? I thought it was piss yeller.
Baby shit yeller, piss yeller. So close, what's the difference?
Scotty
Scotty
"Ellen MacArthur" <El...@highlatitudes.invalid> wrote in
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t...
>
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gregjaynes/kumara/index.htm
Ellen MacArthur
"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" <u25927@uwe> wrote
> I couldn't see the pics in the link. Is there something I need to make sure
> I have in order to view?
I don't think you need anything but your browser. They come up OK for other
people. Your the first person that's said he can't see the pictures. What do you see?
Just a place holder? Maybe they're so hot your browser has them restricted?
> As for the boat I can't say that it is my particular choice in boat but it is
> nice and actually is a sailboat as opposed to the Mac. I saw one of those
> and I really was dissapointed that anyone would do that to fiberglass then
> call it a boat. really I lost a little faith in humanity.
I know what you mean. People waste 25K on junk like that when they could buy
a seaworthy, safe and comfy passage maker. Used, of course. I was looking at the
Sailboat Trader catalog and check this out: 30ft Grampian Marine 1972 17,500$,
Newport 30 1981 18000$, lots of Catalina 30s for less than 20000$, Endeavor 32
1978 24000$, Rawson 33 1972 15500$, 1978 Hunter 33 14500$, 1981 Custom
Steel 34ft no rust 25000$, and on and on.
"I'm stupid" is what they tattoo on your forehead when you buy a MacGregor....
Cheers,
Ellen
Norm
Those older boats can be real solid and a great value. 25 footer is a
bit small for my taste, you need a 27 or larger to do some serious, yet
moderately comfortable cruising. Coronado has a reputation for solid
boats yet is affordable. They do have a small but loyal following.
Norm
Thom Stewart
boat" painted White.
Look carefully at the supports for that Bimini Top. Still can't swing a
wench handle 360 degrees. Only one stupid person, we all know, would do
that to a boat. Would disable BOTH wenches that way and then call it a
"Blue WaterCruising Vessel.
Worst still show a picture to ASA again,thinking it wouldn't be noticed.
A Crapanordo painted Yellow or white is still a piece of Shit that has
been made worst by dumb add ons.
Scout
What is happening in that picture? Why is the anchor dropped and the sails
raised?
Do you sail over the anchor to break it free from a muddy bottom?
Scout
Jeff
> I'll be damned!! The boat in the picture is the "Old Yellow- Banana
> boat" painted White.
>
> Look carefully at the supports for that Bimini Top. Still can't swing a
> wench handle 360 degrees. Only one stupid person, we all know, would do
> that to a boat. Would disable BOTH wenches that way and then call it a
> "Blue WaterCruising Vessel.
>
> Worst still show a picture to ASA again,thinking it wouldn't be noticed.
>
> A Crapanordo painted Yellow or white is still a piece of Shit that has
> been made worst by dumb add ons.
No Thom, that actually is a Coronado 25. I was one of the early
Coronado's, quite popular and available as a kit.
For all the grief Neal gets about his boat, it really isn't that bad.
It was, after all, designed by Bill Tripp. Of course, Neal is
riding a bit low on his lines, but who isn't?
Ellen MacArthur
"Scout" <scout...@hotmail.com> wrote
> What is happening in that picture? Why is the anchor dropped and the sails raised?
> Do you sail over the anchor to break it free from a muddy bottom?
> Scout
I anchored behind a little island that was blocking the wind. I left the sails up
so we could take pictures with the sails up. It was sort of slowly spinning round and round.
It's only about three feet deep where it's anchored. We just climbed off the ladder and
waded to the beach to take the pictures.
Cheers,
Ellen
Ellen MacArthur
"Thom Stewart" <tas...@webtv.net> wrote
> I'll be damned!! The boat in the picture is the "Old Yellow- Banana
> boat" painted White.
> been made worst by dumb add ons.
Duh! Here's pictures from Captain Neal's web site. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html
You gotta be pretty blind to think *Cut the Mustard* is the same boat as Kumara.
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gregjaynes/kumara/index.html
There's just too many differences. You'd better get your glasses checked, Tom.... Somebody told me
MSMTV has a little itty bitty picture. Like maybe 320X240. Maybe it's hard for you to see details on a
tiny picture on a television screen ????
Happy New Year.
Cheers,
Ellen
scbafreak via BoatKB.com
>people. Your the first person that's said he can't see the pictures. What do you see?
>Just a place holder? Maybe they're so hot your browser has them restricted?
Okay it didn't work at my office but it did at home. I just got a place
holder there but wow. Nice pics. I am pretty sure there was a boat in that
image. Is that really you?
> I know what you mean. People waste 25K on junk like that when they could buy
>a seaworthy, safe and comfy passage maker. Used, of course. *snipped*
> "I'm stupid" is what they tattoo on your forehead when you buy a MacGregor....
I couldn't help but think that the MacGregor comes with a requirement that
all owners must wear large amounts of fake gold jewelry and a speedo at all
times while underway. It seems to me that you sail because you want to.
That being the case shouldn't the sailing aspects of the boat and the sailing
experience be the most important rather than convenience and cupholders?
Capt. JG
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It's really a guy named Neal who is so childish that he's pretending
(poorly) to be a woman.
Quite sad and pathetic actually...
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JonBoy
Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the
left with "Ellen"/Neal?
"Scout" <scout...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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katy
water when she jimped in...after all, in her opinion, oil calms the
waves, right?
Ellen MacArthur
"JonBoy" <J...@bigshow.com> wrote
> Photoshop.
> Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the left with "Ellen"/Neal?
Duh, get a decent monitor. On the left is just plain water. The water on the right of me has
the reflection of the boat and sails in it. It would look the same all the way across if the reflection
wasn't there. They're ain't nobody good enough to match up waves like that using Photoshop.
Cheers,
Ellen
Capt. JG
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> Photoshop.
> Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the
> left with "Ellen"/Neal?
>
Impossible. Neal isn't that slick. He's just slimy.
Lady Pilot
LP
cavelamb himself
Dam, Girl, you can come sail with me any time you want!
Jonathan Ganz
cavelamb himself <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Dam, Girl, you can come sail with me any time you want!
>
>Richard
Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html
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cavelamb himself
YeCh!
Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!
Richard
Jonathan Ganz
cavelamb himself <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
>> actually a guy.
>>
>> http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html
>>
>YeCh!
>
>Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!
Sorry man...
cavelamb himself
Oh well, I suspected it was too good to be true.
So is there anything going on here worth reading?
From the looks of it, just another outta control
news group...
Richard
Maxprop
"cavelamb himself" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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That pretty much sums it up. If you filter out the flonkers, however, it's
tolerable. Periodic sailing discussions interspersed with politics, hatred,
accusations, humor, animosity, and general tastelessness is what ASA is all
about. Stick around a while to see if it's to your liking. Or more likely,
if it's tolerable to you, too.
Max
Capt. JG
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I think Max pretty much summed it up. Several of us have been here a long
time. Others come and go... mostly go. <g>
But, you're welcome to hang around and be busted up from time to time.
Capt. JG
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>
>
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm
How do you like the Capri... 18 is it? We have 4 Capri 16.5s. Great little
training boats, but a bit wet and tender for the conditions.
cavelamb himself
I like it a lot.
When I started looking for a boat I was actually thinking about an O'Day
Day Sailor. Used to sail them from NAS Pensacola in the 70's.
When I found the Capri I was amazed with how much boat Catalina had
packed into 18 feet without compromising on much of anything!
This is not a centerboard boat. She has a lead ballasted fin keel!
Stiff and weatherly - and faster than expected. (Not that I race, but
for a 16 foot waterline she really moves out) and points well.
Below decks the cabin is a lot bigger than you'd expect. Bunks are
nearly 7 feet long and quite comfy.
The new version has a much more stylish deck plan but gives up a lot
of headroom. I like this old boat a lot better.
She is 21 years old now, and wasn't in great shape whe I got her.
I've done a lot of restoration and upgrading. No major structural
problems - just years of neglect and abuse.
She's better now. New rigging, cleaned and polished. Added a bimini
top, slab reefing, VHF radio, and a host of smaller details.
Like any small boat, storage is a challenge - getting things organized
so that they are not just piled up in the cabin.
Currently finishing up the "fo'csle". I have no use for a V berth and
have added a small galley to port and a chart table and "wine locker"
to starbord.
My next project is a "sail loft" in the fore peak. This will be used
for storing sail, PFD's, covers and stuff when not in use.
Anchors and lines stored below with quick and easy access when needed.
So, ok, you probably got the idea that I like to tinker. One of the
reasons I dropped in here is to search out some odd information about
how to set up and handle a square rig(!).
I've worked out (in theory) how to set up a course and tops'l - and
how to set and furl the sails. But, of course, I've never handled
squares. The running rigging presents a challenge on such a short
single masted boat. While there are a few old books an the subject
none of them I've seen address a single mast system.
I'm not claining it would be practical - but might be a lot of fun
when the local racing fleet turns down wind.
Providing I don't screw up and look dumb for trying something so
silly...
For what it's worth.
Richard
Capt. JG
Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of challenge
for new students on the SF bay.
Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing something
silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? <g>
cavelamb himself
Well, that's certainty a possibility...
cavelamb himself
>
>
> Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of challenge
> for new students on the SF bay.
>
> Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing something
> silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? <g>
>
Didn't screw up too bad today!
But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.
About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!
Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.
Got a lot of sun and had fun too.
Fair winds,
>>Richard
>>
>>http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm
Capt. JG
What about Toto? <g>
cavelamb himself
nervous bladder...
katy
Just stick him next to the scuppers...
Capt. JG
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That's katytype for next to the scarecrow.
cavelamb himself
Today was mo' betta. Wind 5 to 10. Let's head for the lake!
Dorothy _sailed_ us out of the slip and away we went flying low across
the lake!
About an hour out we sudenly hit a hole in the wind and went limp.
Then the real wind showed up! 15 to 20 gusting 25.
Spirit laid over and slithered like a sidewinder!
This was the first time Dorothy has had to handle any real blow and
it was a bit much for her. The boat would try to round and loose drive
then D'd get her back on course and laid right over again.
Things happened a lot quicker than she's used to.
The look on her face was a mix of exhilaration and dread as the lee rail
started throwing spray.
I was caught between wanting to try out the new main reefing - and not
wanting to let go of the main sheet!
Finally decided the best course of action was to run like smoke for home.
We were making hull speed on a run! First time for that...
Well, like the title says - I like this boat!
Richard
cavelamb himself
>>>
>>> What about Toto? <g>
>>>
>>
>> nervous bladder...
>
>
> Just stick him next to the scuppers...
Hiya, Katy.
Well, you see, Toto is actually a cat.
You can't believe everything you read, you know.
Richard
katy
Hey..it's great you're having so much fun and that Doeothy is shaping up
into a good sailor...good thing , with those winds, you didn't end up in
OZ with no reefing!
katy
SOme cats like to sail...we had a guy who used to post here who had a
Farr 40 and sailed out of Auckland...he had 2 cats that regularly
cruised with him...
cavelamb himself
>
> Hey..it's great you're having so much fun and that Doeothy is shaping up
> into a good sailor...good thing , with those winds, you didn't end up in
> OZ with no reefing!
You got that right, Katy.
I just recently installed the reefing gear.
Today would have been a fine time to try it out but I was too -uhm-
concerned (yeah, that's it) to let go of the main sheet.
I did have to spill it a couple of times. I wanted to let her get
the feel of it, but ya gotta be pretty quick and firm on the stick.
She's still a little timid about the tiller being "backwards" to
get agressive with it.
She is picking it up - but with little mechanical background I do
quite a bit of regressive explaining.
Levers and switches and gears - Oh My!
But we're having fun.
And that's a Goof Thing (tm).
Richard
Capt. JG
So who the heck is Dorothy (not talking about of OZ fame)?
cavelamb himself
Scotty
..
> >
> >
> > So who the heck is Dorothy (not talking about of OZ
fame)?
> >
> >
>
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/spirit.htm#spirit
>
> third pic down
>
She looks nice, the boat that is.
Your ''reefing'' link doesn't work.
Scotty
Capt. JG
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What boat?
Wilbur Hubbard
"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
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>
Looks like a boat owned by your everyday typical moron. Can't even apply
the registration numbers with the proper spacing. Nothing says stupid
and inattentive louder than mis-applied registration numbers.
Wilbur Hubbard
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
message news:VseJh.30353$S%>
> Looks like a boat owned by your everyday typical moron.
Can't even apply
> the registration numbers with the proper spacing. Nothing
says stupid
> and inattentive louder than mis-applied registration
numbers.
Nothing says 'jealousy' louder than this post.
Scotty
Wilbur Hubbard
"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
Jealous of a poor little boat that, through no fault of its own, looks
shoddy because of an owner who doesn't have a clue how to even apply
registration numbers? Not likely. If anything I feel sorry for the boat.
The very first impression knowledgeable sailors get of that poor boat is
the owner is sloppy or clueless. Either way it's a shame. If a boat can
have pride that boat is ashamed to be owned by such a dope.
Wilbur Hubbard
Wilbur Hubbard
"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
Nothing says do it right like that post.
http://www.boat-ed.com/tx/course/p4-1_boatnumbers.htm
Notice what it says "
Letters must be separated from the numbers by a space or hyphen; for
example: TX 3717 ZW or TX-3717-ZW.
It says "a space" not seven or eight spaces like Caveman did it. People
who can't follow simple instructions are probably people to be avoided
on the water because there they represent a hazard to everybody because
of their inattentiveness. They obviously have no pride in what they do.
Wilbur Hubbard
cavelamb himself
I've seen the stuff he posts.
Just consider the source and ignore him.
Richard
Wilbur Hubbard
Yes, that's the solution. Just ignore it when you're confronted with
being incapable of following simple instructions. Maybe if you paid
attention instead of ignoring instructions you would not look so stupid
by virtue of resulting erroneous actions.
Wilbur Hubbard
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
> Notice what it says "
> Letters must be separated from the numbers by a space or
hyphen; for
> example: TX 3717 ZW or TX-3717-ZW.
doesn't specify the length of the space, does it?
SV
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
>
> "Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
> news:c_KdnVzqXfcT6GjY...@dejazzd.com...
> >
> > "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote
in
> > message news:VseJh.30353$S%>
> >> Looks like a boat owned by your everyday typical moron.
> > Can't even apply
> >> the registration numbers with the proper spacing.
Nothing
> > says stupid
> >> and inattentive louder than mis-applied registration
> > numbers.
> >
> >
> > Nothing says 'jealousy' louder than this post.
> >
> > Scotty
>
>
> Jealous of a poor little boat
No, jealous of cavesheep.
SV
cavelamb himself
Wilber,
Those numbers were on there 20 years before I bought her.
She was in pretty sad shape when I got her. Rigging all kinked and
broken, filthy dirty, rudder pintles broken off, and some parts
missing. But the hull and deck were sound. I've spent most of last
year getting her in reasonable shape.
At the end of this season I'll pull her out and paint the hull.
At that time I will replace the numbers - but for now I'm going
to enjoy sailing her - as is.
If you don't like it, well, tough!
Now take your hateful self-serving attitude somewhere else.
Because even if you are right about something, your attitude
is such a turn off that NOBODY is going to listen to you.
Spirit - Out.
cavelamb himself
Uh, it;s Lamb, Scotty.
Saber Tooth Cave Lamb
Ain't nothing sheepish here...
cavelamb himself
I took him out once, but he tried to climb the mast.
But couldn't get much traction on aulminum.
Very frustrated kitty!
Wilbur Hubbard
"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
Now why would anybody be jealous of some Rube who can't follow simple
instructions?
Wilbur Hubbard
katy
Good for you, Richard...you can feel proud that you've brought back an
unsailable boat and seek the fun of the experience before having to have
a perfect vessel..
katy
Wilbur Hubbard
"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
Another grade school drop-out squeeks . . . Listen up, fool!
The space one letter or number takes up is a space. You have a space bar
on your keyboard. When you touch the space bar does it insert a
half-dozen spaces? No it does not, it inserts one space. It inserts the
space of one letter or number.
Wilbur Hubbard
Scotty
.
> >
> > SOme cats like to sail...we had a guy who used to post
here who had a
> > Farr 40 and sailed out of Auckland...he had 2 cats that
regularly
> > cruised with him...
>
> I took him out once, but he tried to climb the mast.
> But couldn't get much traction on aulminum.
> Very frustrated kitty!
help him out next time, stick a rocket up his ass and light
it.
Scotty
Wilbur Hubbard
> Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
>>
>> "cavelamb himself" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:VihJh.126673$_73....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>>> Scotty wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
>>>> message news:VseJh.30353$S%>
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like a boat owned by your everyday typical moron.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can't even apply
>>>>
>>>>> the registration numbers with the proper spacing. Nothing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> says stupid
>>>>
>>>>> and inattentive louder than mis-applied registration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> numbers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing says 'jealousy' louder than this post.
>>>>
>>>> Scotty
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It don't mean nothing, Scotty.
>>> I've seen the stuff he posts.
>>>
>>> Just consider the source and ignore him.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's the solution. Just ignore it when you're confronted with
>> being incapable of following simple instructions. Maybe if you paid
>> attention instead of ignoring instructions you would not look so
>> stupid by virtue of resulting erroneous actions.
>>
>> Wilbur Hubbard
>
> Wilber,
>
> Those numbers were on there 20 years before I bought her.
And how hard is it to scrape them off and do it right? Doesn't your boat
which looks pretty good otherwise deserve to have registration numbers
put on correctly?
>
> She was in pretty sad shape when I got her. Rigging all kinked and
> broken, filthy dirty, rudder pintles broken off, and some parts
> missing. But the hull and deck were sound. I've spent most of last
> year getting her in reasonable shape.
You did a pretty good job. She looks great except for the registration
numbers which look like an idiot put them on. Since you are not the
idiot who put them on why continue the idiocy by leaving them that way?
> At the end of this season I'll pull her out and paint the hull.
> At that time I will replace the numbers - but for now I'm going
> to enjoy sailing her - as is.
I would be ashamed to be seen in a sailboat with crap registration
number placement. If you can't afford new numbers and letters with the
correct spacing even if you're going to scrape them off the end of the
season when you paint it then you are just one of the masses who
demonstrate by their actions that they have little pride in what they
do.
> If you don't like it, well, tough!
And, if you don't like being criticized then straighten out the
stupidity on your boat.
>
> Now take your hateful self-serving attitude somewhere else.
No. I take it where I choose to take it. It's still a free Usenet the
last time I looked.
> Because even if you are right about something, your attitude
> is such a turn off that NOBODY is going to listen to you.
That makes you look all the sadder. Refusing to take action to make
legal (you can be ticketed for improper registration numbers) and make
respectable what you sail just because your temper gets in the way is
childish and not worthy of a sailor. Grow up. If the criticism is
invalid that's one thing. But valid criticism is to be taken to heart.
Wilbur Hubbard
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
>
> Another grade school drop-out squeeks . . .
I made it to the 8th grade, fool!
>
> The space one letter or number takes up is a space.
Where does it say that?
>You have a space bar
> on your keyboard. When you touch the space bar does it
insert a
> half-dozen spaces?
Yes, if I hold it down.
SBV
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
> >>
> >> Jealous of a poor little boat
> >
> > No, jealous of cavesheep.
>
follow simple
> instructions?
Cause he has a nice boat with a nice babe in it?
cavelamb himself
>
>
> Good for you, Richard...you can feel proud that you've brought back an
> unsailable boat and seek the fun of the experience before having to have
> a perfect vessel..
Oh baby, it's a lot of work, but the results have been very satisfying.
For what it's worth, I looked at a Catalina 27 Saturday - 1977 I think.
_Asking_ price $3500 - negociable.
It's all there - and the hull looks sound. One small soft spot on the
deck near the aft port side of the deck house.
Atomic 4 runs - pretty smooth too.
Rig _looks_ good.
But-
She's been in the water for about 10 years without much care.
The interior is bad - real bad.
The main bulkhead doesn't quite reach the floor anymore, and the front
sole is rather - well - thin?
No way I can part that one in the driveway for a year or so for a total
restoration.
But if someone has the space, time, and money, she's certainly available.
And the price, as I said, is negociable :)
Richard
cavelamb himself
Houston, whe have a lift off!
Another first for the American space program...
Wilbur Hubbard
"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
The boat looks good other than those dumb registration numbers. The lady
looks fair, but I've seen better. . .
Wilbur Hubbard
Jonathan Ganz
cavelamb himself <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Wilber,
>
> Those numbers were on there 20 years before I bought her.
>
> She was in pretty sad shape when I got her. Rigging all kinked and
> broken, filthy dirty, rudder pintles broken off, and some parts
> missing. But the hull and deck were sound. I've spent most of last
> year getting her in reasonable shape.
>
> At the end of this season I'll pull her out and paint the hull.
> At that time I will replace the numbers - but for now I'm going
> to enjoy sailing her - as is.
>
> If you don't like it, well, tough!
>
> Now take your hateful self-serving attitude somewhere else.
>
> Because even if you are right about something, your attitude
> is such a turn off that NOBODY is going to listen to you.
Next time, use Neal, since that's who was posting.
--
Capt. JG @@
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Jonathan Ganz
cavelamb himself <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>For what it's worth, I looked at a Catalina 27 Saturday - 1977 I think.
>
>_Asking_ price $3500 - negociable.
>
>It's all there - and the hull looks sound. One small soft spot on the
>deck near the aft port side of the deck house.
>
>Atomic 4 runs - pretty smooth too.
>
>Rig _looks_ good.
>
>But-
>
>She's been in the water for about 10 years without much care.
>
>The interior is bad - real bad.
>
>The main bulkhead doesn't quite reach the floor anymore, and the front
>sole is rather - well - thin?
>
>No way I can part that one in the driveway for a year or so for a total
>restoration.
>
>But if someone has the space, time, and money, she's certainly available.
>
>And the price, as I said, is negociable :)
For what it's worth... that would have to be very, very
negotiable... for all the work you'd need to do....
cavelamb himself
Did I get it wrong?
Or somebody hiding behind a net-name?
cavelamb himself
Yeah, so have I.
But not many sweeter!
Jonathan Ganz
Neal = Wilber = Ellen = and a few others from time to time.
But, no you didn't get it wrong.
cavelamb himself
I kinda suspect that the price could be negociated down to about a buck
hard cash. The owner seemed quite "motivated".
But iit would take quite a pile more to put her back ship shape...
Jonathan Ganz
I rebuilt a Cal 20 pretty much from the hull up, and while it was a
rewarding experience, I don't think I want to do that again. <g>
katy
We had a 1078 O'Day that we sailed for 7 years...was a great boat EXCEPT
for the Bomabastic 4...the ONLY good thing about them is that they are
fixable...over and over and over and over again...and then over again
some more...interiors in those are pretty easy to fix..most of that era
used some type of vinyl for bulkhead covering so is very easy to strip
and replace...I did ours with some heavy industrial ulpholstery material
and industrial strength fabric glue. Cusion recovering, if you don't do
them yourself is pricey. A bad looking sole can be covered with
carpeting with Velcro stickies on it to keep it in place but needs to be
pulled up when you're not there so mildew deosn't set up undeneath...In
that year Catalina, you could probably find a much better boat for not
that much more, so keep looking...
katy
warned...
Wilbur Hubbard
"Charlie Morgan" <*@*.com> wrote in message
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> (M-space and
> N-space)
>
> CWM
NMNMNMNMNMNMNM
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Minor and insignificant, at least on the font I'm looking at (Comic Sans
MS) though there is a slight difference. So leave the space of the
widest letter for the space between TX 2151 NM but don't leave half a
dozen spaces and make it look like some retard did it.
Wilbur Hubbard
Wilbur Hubbard
"Charlie Morgan" <*@*.com> wrote in message
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:46:16 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>>
>>And how hard is it to scrape them off and do it right? Doesn't your
>>boat
>>which looks pretty good otherwise deserve to have registration numbers
>>put on correctly?
>>
>
> painted on
> Cut The Mustard? It was far from the shortest distance between two
> points. More
> of a ragged "boot squiggle"
>
> Then he tried to rig his boat for mid-boom sheeting and broke his
> inadequate
> boom. Remember the banana boom-erang with all the dissimilar metals?
>
> Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
> CWM
What's that got to do with anything? Just another case of some Rube
doing shoddy work. Something I see all too much of these days,
unfortunately. My Allied Seawind 32 has no such shoddy workmanship
apparent or unapparent anywhere. Perfection and Bristol as far as the
eye can see.
Wilbur Hubbard
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First, LSD and ACID are the same thing. Second, I
recommend not doing this drug. As someone who has
taken practically every drug available that produces
some sort of high, LSD has the potential to be mentally
devistating.
That said, if you feel you are mentally able to withstand
being torn from all convention mooring, I'll give you this
advice.
Do some research at a local library. Before I did lsd for
the first time, I went to the Medical School library at
a local university. Find out about what is known about
lsd's interaction with the brain. Then, read some of
the published accounts documenting "trip." Admittedly,
these are a bit fanciful....pink elephants and such.
But, I would caution you against thinking that this
sort of thing won't happen. If it's going to happen,
it may be quite disturbing and will usually happen
the first time.
Another warning: Don't do this drug alone. What I mean
is have a close friend (someone you really trust) standing
by to give you aid and comfort. Having some Valium handy
woudn't be a bad idea. A "good" situation would be a group
of 3 or 4 with one person straight.
The thing is, everyone wants to fly. Just take my advice
and try to fly from the ground up rather than the other
way around.
Where are you planning on getting the lsd? Someone you
trust? Someone who has done some from this particular
batch? I suggest it! lsd can easily vary in strength.
Let me give you an example. My first time, I got the lsd
from a friend who was in Med school. He made it himself.
He had done so several times. Well, he screwed it up!
He measured wrong. Instead of measuring out 100 microgram
doses, he was ten times off -- 1000 micrograms! I took
the whole thing. I was on another planet for 35 hours.
I'm not joking. This is true. I tried to describe the
experience to another friend, an experienced user, who
didn't really believe I was high and who was going to take
it next. He took it anyway. This is what happened.
We're sitting around listening to Beethoven. He has the
headphones on because he wants to hear every note (a common
request from people on lsd). The rest of us are talking.
I happen to look at him and notice that he is quickly
turning ghostly white in the face. He jaw slackens, then
he suddenly tears the headphones from his ears and throws
them across the room hitting a lamp. These are BIG headphones.
You can imagine what happens to the lamp. We calm him
down. He's fine. Two days later, he describes the following:
He's listening to Beethoven and everything is fine. He notices
that we're talking and has the impression we're talking about
him. Just after that he hears a small tick in the recording
(sorry, this was 1972 and there were no CDs). As he continues
to listen and watch us talk, the tick in the recording becomes
a real tick (the insect). It crawls into his ear from the
headphone and starts through his eardrum. (This is when he
rips off the headphones.) His final description of the experience
was comparing his sanity to holding onto a palm tree in a
hurricane and being whipped back and forth.
Have any questions?
Jonathan
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Wilbur Hubbard
"Charlie Morgan" <*@*.com> wrote in message
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:50:46 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> typography.
>
> CWM
It may well be but what's it got to do with block lettering on a
sailboat?
Wilbur Hubbard
cavelamb himself
> cavelamb himself wrote:
>
>> katy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good for you, Richard...you can feel proud that you've brought back
>>> an unsailable boat and seek the fun of the experience before having
>>> to have a perfect vessel..
>>
>
> for the Bomabastic 4...the ONLY good thing about them is that they are
> fixable...over and over and over and over again...and then over again
> some more...interiors in those are pretty easy to fix..most of that era
> used some type of vinyl for bulkhead covering so is very easy to strip
> and replace...I did ours with some heavy industrial ulpholstery material
> and industrial strength fabric glue. Cusion recovering, if you don't do
> them yourself is pricey. A bad looking sole can be covered with
> carpeting with Velcro stickies on it to keep it in place but needs to be
> pulled up when you're not there so mildew deosn't set up undeneath...In
> that year Catalina, you could probably find a much better boat for not
> that much more, so keep looking...
You bet, Katy.
I just looked it over because it is down the pier and had a for sale
sign on it. Curiousity and the cat, you know...
Actually I kinda have my heart set on a C-30 - or something with that
much room at least. A mid 80's or so - not too bad on price, and a
lot better shape.
But there are a lot of others out there.
Another year in this on - till Dorothy is comfortable taking her out
solo.
Then we'll get serious about moving up.
cavelamb himself
You seriously gotta get a life!
Wilbur Hubbard
> Wilber, Neal, who ever...
>
> You seriously gotta get a life!
Are you saying you condone illegal drug abuse?
Wilbur Hubbard
Jonathan Ganz
cavelamb himself <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Wilber, Neal, who ever...
>
>You seriously gotta get a life!
>
Heh... he gave up on that in Jr. High I'm sure!
Scotty
"katy" <katy...@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>
> We had a 1078 O'Day that we sailed
I didn't know O'Day was in business *that* long.
Scotty
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
> > Cause he has a nice boat with a nice babe in it?
>
>
> The boat looks good other than those dumb registration
numbers. The lady
Secret Catalogue.
Oiy!
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
>
> And how hard is it to scrape them off and do it right?
That would make it look worse, much worse.
Scotty
"Charlie Morgan" <*@*.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:36:42 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
> <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Scotty" <w@u> wrote in message
> >news:x8mdndebZYNzOGjY...@dejazzd.com...
> >>
in
> >>> Notice what it says "
> >>> Letters must be separated from the numbers by a space
or
> >> hyphen; for
> >>> example: TX 3717 ZW or TX-3717-ZW.
> >>
> >>
> >> doesn't specify the length of the space, does it?
> >
> >Another grade school drop-out squeeks . . . Listen up,
fool!
> >
> >The space one letter or number takes up is a space. You
have a space bar
> >on your keyboard. When you touch the space bar does it
insert a
> >half-dozen spaces? No it does not, it inserts one space.
It inserts the
> >space of one letter or number.
> >
> >Wilbur Hubbard
> >
> >
>
> Look up the difference between an "em" space and an "en"
space. (M-space and
> N-space)
Where?
Scotty
"Wilbur Hubbard" <wilbur...@thefarm.invallid> wrote in
> >
> > You seriously gotta get a life!
>
> Are you saying you condone illegal drug abuse?
I do. So?
Scotty
Mundo
(in article <S5lJh.39725$7g3....@newsfe14.phx>):
Are you saying you have never dabbled? HA HAAA HA
--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass
katy
Good plan...and I'm glad Doeothy is enhoying it so much...
katy
cavelamb himself
Yepper - me too!
Especially the anchoring part.... :))