A little help please.
RICHARD GROSS
o/b. Of course, it won't start. (Started fine in the guy's driveway four
weeks ago). I am going to change out the plug and give it a very little
starting ether to see if I can get it going before having to take it in.
Does anyone know what the sparkplug gap is supposed to be??? Any other
suggestions for restoring the motor to life??? thanks ric...@att.net
RICHARD GROSS
as the starter/crank/flywheel is driven by pulling the cord. The cord is
attached to a keyed pulley mounted in the top of the "motorcase cover".
Hence, the ability to generate the spark seems precluded by the inability to
turn the engine at any speed without the motor cover on. Any suggestions
would be welcomed. No - there is not an "emergency" pulley that I can wrap
a rope around. It's a very small motor! thanks for your help
ric...@att.net
larry wrote in message <36447f4a...@news.ptd.net>...
>On 7 Nov 1998 13:32:20 GMT, "RICHARD GROSS"
>An OB only needs two things to start ignition and fuel.
>Do you know how to check for spark & fuel?
>As long as the plug gap is around .030 it should start.
>A can of starting fluid is a nice tool.
>
>larry
Pete Gordley
4 days a week on a private 100 acre lake. The lake is small, but the
Southcoast is a very nimble boat. Tender but nimble. Wouldn't take anything
for her.
Pete Gordley
"Liberte"
CaptWyn
If you already have trash in the carb then you will need to pull it apart &
clean
Been there
Wayne
CaptWyn
sailor runs a web site for us
If your not already hooked in give me a buzz
Wayne
RICHARD GROSS
with the old plug, and they couldn't match it exactly. I have no way to know
if the plug that was in the engine was the original and they didn't have a
cross match book for outboards - . What was in there was a "marine style"
according to the guy at the parts store -( who previously was in the o/b
business! ) He sold me a plug that was " one heat range higher". It didn't
do the trick, though. I haven't pulled the filter - duh ! - yet.
but will do so in the morning ( if it rains and I don't get to go fishing
! ) The two wires that lead from under the engine mounted pulley are
severely corroded, so I may buy a small wheel puller and get at them and
replace them too, If all fails, the local boat fixer re-opens Tuesday
morning! thanks, Rich
CaptWyn wrote in message <19981107221006...@ng71.aol.com>...
Capt. Neal
RICHARD GROSS wrote in message
<721i54$p...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>I just picked up a 22 Southcoast and it is equipped with a
4.5 1980 Mercury
>o/b. Of course, it won't start. (Started fine in the guy's
driveway four
>weeks ago). I am going to change out the plug and give it a
very little
>starting ether to see if I can get it going before having to
take it in.
>Does anyone know what the sparkplug gap is supposed to be???
Any other
>suggestions for restoring the motor to life??? thanks
ric...@att.net
>
>
Then larry wrote in message
<36447f4a...@news.ptd.net>...
>An OB only needs two things to start ignition and fuel.
>Do you know how to check for spark & fuel?
>As long as the plug gap is around .030 it should start.
>A can of starting fluid is a nice tool.
>
>larry
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Dear Richard,
larry was on the right track but his views are simplistic and
indicative of a layman's knowledge of two-cycle engines.
First of all, forget about the ether! If you have to resort
to ether to get the engine started then something is wrong.
Since I am one of the world's foremost experts on two-cycle
engines, I will tell you how to get your outboard running.
First, open the vent on the fuel tank. If the fuel tank is
built into your engine then also open the fuel petcock.
Install a new spark plug and don't worry about the gap as it
is fine the way it is right out of the box. Today's modern
ignition systems are not very dependent on spark plug gap
anyhow! Next, make sure the safety switch has the key
inserted or you will not ever get spark to the plug. Now,
engage the choke and keep the throttle at the idle position.
This is another common mistake laymen such as larry make . . .
opening the throttle too much with the choke on will flood the
engine. Pull briskly on the starter rope.
If, after having done the above, your engine still will not
start, then you should drain the float bowl on the carburetor
in case some water has found its way in. If none of this
works then take your engine to the shop and let a mechanic
look at it. There are a number of obscure things that can
keep an engine from running that a decent mechanic will look
for.
As for larry's statement about a two-cycle engine only needing
two things to run . . . ERROR ,ERROR, ERROR! Here is the
complete list.
1) Fuel at the correct fuel/air/oil ratio.
2) Spark at the correct number of millimeters before top dead
center.
3) Primary compression
4) Transfer
5) Secondary compression
6) No blockages in the exhaust system
7) No blockages in the intake system
Respectfully,
Capt. Neal
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tim Jones
Gurnos
In article <19981107221006...@ng71.aol.com>, CaptWyn
<cap...@aol.com> writes
>Rather than work on the plug just buy a new one. Also check the fuel filter.
>
>If you already have trash in the carb then you will need to pull it apart &
>clean
>
>Been there
>
>Wayne
--
Tim Jones
CaptWyn
I get tired of long drawn out posts were the Quote is longer than the comment.
The original question concerned a hard starting outboard.
Wayne
>Subject: Re: A little help please.
>From: Tim Jones <t...@tim-jones.demon.co.uk>
>Date: 11/10/98 1:55 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <hBabmDAY...@tim-jones.demon.co.uk>
Bill
(snip)
>There are a number of obscure things that can
>keep an engine from running that a decent mechanic will look
>for.
(snip)
One "obscure" thing in the form of a confession of stupidity. I bought my
first sailboat (used) about 25 years ago and was happily motoring out from
the slip for my first sail in it along a narrow channel with rocks on one
side and outboard propellers on the other with a fresh breeze blowing. The
motor quit at the "pessimum" place. After a chinese firedrill and working
to get the motor started for about 30 minutes, I discovered that the fuel
had been turned off. (It ran until the float bowl emptied).
Check the fuel cutoff. (And always have a sail ready to go for when the
motor quits).
Good luck
Bill