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Why do Truck Drivers run their engines all night long when sleeping in their cab ?

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ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 30, 2011, 12:19:15 AM1/30/11
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Ive stayed at a few truck stops overnight and notice that most Drivers
will run their engines all night long while sleeping , yet some will
turn their engines off.....and the outside temps dont seem to be a
factor . When youre in an RV next to one of them that lets their
engine run, its noisy...so im wondering whats up with that ?

Janet Wilder

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Jan 30, 2011, 1:16:43 PM1/30/11
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If it's a reefer truck (refrigerated trailer), they need to run the
engine to keep the refrigeration device operating.

Outside temps are really a factor since there aren't window to open for
ventilation in the bunk of most trucks. They run the engine for the heat
or the AC *and* to bring in fresh air.

I drove cross-county tractor trailer. Still have my CDL

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

N4HHE

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Jan 30, 2011, 1:42:33 PM1/30/11
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On 1/30/11 12:16 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> If it's a reefer truck (refrigerated trailer), they need to run the
> engine to keep the refrigeration device operating.

All the refrigerated trailers I've seen were self-powered. Makes sense
as thats the only way to keep them cold when detached at the depot.

Think about it, you've seen the cylindrical fuel tanks underneath.

Shad O'Shay

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Jan 30, 2011, 1:43:55 PM1/30/11
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"IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Because they are rude, ignorant and self-centered. Some of the lowlife fools
still believe in that old saw that it takes more diesel fuel to start the
motor in the morning than to idle it all night long. How stupid is THAT?

Courteous and informed drivers will not run their engines all night. If they
need power for electricity and air conditioning there are stand-alone power
packs available for that purpose and they are quiet and efficient. Reefer
trailers have their own, built-in power packs so running the tractor motor
isn't necessary for that as an uninformed respondent posted.

Some states and municipalities have gotten on the ball and have outlawed
excessive idling. Too much noise and air pollution involved.


Shad O'Shay


ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 30, 2011, 5:10:54 PM1/30/11
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On Jan 30, 12:16 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Im seeing it done on NON-refer Semi Trailers where they run the
engines all night long . Is the drivers compartment sealed off from
the bunk in the back ... or it is all open inside ? Why do they need
to do it when its a nice 60 or 70 f. at nighttime ? If its all open
inside, cant they just crack their windows for some fresh air ? Ive
noticed many Drivers dont run their engines . Seems like a big waste
of deisel fuel and noise to those around them. I dont know how they
themselves could even sleep with the pinging noise that deisel engines
make.

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Jan 30, 2011, 5:44:04 PM1/30/11
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"Shad O'Shit" wrote in message .....Some of the lowlife fools

still believe in that old saw that it takes more diesel fuel to start the
motor in the morning than to idle it all night long. How stupid is THAT
?<<<<<<<<<<<<

No one believes it takes more fuel to start the engine (a motor is powered
by electric) than idle it all night.
Only a fool like you would suggest it.
The only time you post is to bitch about something and then you prove
you have no idea what you are talking about.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Jan 30, 2011, 5:47:32 PM1/30/11
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"IlBe...@gmail.com" wrote in message news...If its all open

inside, cant they just crack their windows for some fresh air ?<<<<<<<<<<

Opening a window is just asking to get broke into and robbed.
Because the lefties won't let drivers carry guns, there are at the mercy of
any robber who has a knife or a gun.

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JerryD(upstateNY)

Ken

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Jan 30, 2011, 10:47:34 PM1/30/11
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On Jan 30, 2:44 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jer...@nowhere.rr.com>
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Shad and Dave should share a nice RV vacation sometime
They both ride bikes, are totally idiots and as gay as 3 dollar bills

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 30, 2011, 11:43:42 PM1/30/11
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On Jan 30, 4:47 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jer...@nowhere.rr.com>
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> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"  wrote in message news...If its all open

How about cracking each window an inch for some fresh air and turning
off the motor ?

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Jan 31, 2011, 7:33:50 AM1/31/11
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IlBe...@gmail.com" wrote in message How about cracking each window an inch
for some fresh air and turning
off the motor ? <<<<

You mean open the window just enough so someone can run a slim jim though
the opening and silently open the window ?
Good plan.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)

Shad O'Shay

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:39:05 AM1/31/11
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"JerryD(upstateNY)" <jer...@nowhere.rr.com> wrote in message
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Nobody believes??? Wrong! Please read "bandit's' reply here:

http://www.jimthetrucker.com/how-come-truckers-always-leave-their-engines-running-at-truck-stops/

And click on a few of the related links.

"bandit_60:
March 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm
it don,t take as much fuel to keep them running as it does to start them
back up. besides keeping them running keeps the air built up in the air
brakes. and in the winter they sleep in their rig"

The Shadster


ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 31, 2011, 1:49:44 PM1/31/11
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On Jan 31, 6:33 am, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jer...@nowhere.rr.com>
wrote:
> IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote in message How about cracking each window an inch

Cmon....will ya ?! No one in their right mind is going to attempt
that knowing most Truckers are packing , plus the noise a Slim Jim
would make trying to open the door .

Janet Wilder

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Jan 31, 2011, 2:10:25 PM1/31/11
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It's illegal for truck drivers to pack.

Shad O'Shay

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Jan 31, 2011, 2:21:37 PM1/31/11
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"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/31/2011 12:49 PM, IlBe...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 31, 6:33 am, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)"<jer...@nowhere.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote in message How about cracking each window an
>>> inch
>>>
>>> for some fresh air and turning
>>> off the motor ?<<<<
>>>
>>> You mean open the window just enough so someone can run a slim jim
>>> though
>>> the opening and silently open the window ?
>>> Good plan.
>>> --
>>> JerryD(upstateNY)
>>
>> Cmon....will ya ?! No one in their right mind is going to attempt
>> that knowing most Truckers are packing , plus the noise a Slim Jim
>> would make trying to open the door .
>
> It's illegal for truck drivers to pack


Girl, you are soooooooo hopelessly ignorant!

http://www.squidoo.com/federalcdlgunlaw

What do you use the Internet for? Soap operas?


Shad O'Shay


Señor Herrrrerrra

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:00:22 PM1/31/11
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How about not dying from carbon monoxide poisoning.

Señor Herrrrerrra

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:01:00 PM1/31/11
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On 1/31/2011 12:10 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 1/31/2011 12:49 PM, IlBe...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 31, 6:33 am, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)"<jer...@nowhere.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote in message How about cracking each window
>>> an inch
>>>
>>> for some fresh air and turning
>>> off the motor ?<<<<
>>>
>>> You mean open the window just enough so someone can run a slim jim
>>> though
>>> the opening and silently open the window ?
>>> Good plan.
>>> --
>>> JerryD(upstateNY)
>>
>> Cmon....will ya ?! No one in their right mind is going to attempt
>> that knowing most Truckers are packing , plus the noise a Slim Jim
>> would make trying to open the door .
>
> It's illegal for truck drivers to pack.
>
Evidently they all didn't get the memo.

Señor Herrrrerrra

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:02:59 PM1/31/11
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What do you use it for Shad? Is it to meet other bicyclists who shave
their legs and massage each other?

Señor Herrrrerrra

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:04:03 PM1/31/11
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Shadster? is that like a Carpster?

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:07:31 PM1/31/11
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On Jan 31, 1:10 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Spelling doesn't count.  Cooking does.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That doesnt stop them. I would too if i slept in truck stops
especially in very rural areas where you are a target.

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 31, 2011, 11:08:26 PM1/31/11
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On Jan 31, 10:00 pm, Señor Herrrrerrra <Sociali...@Use-Author-Supplied-

Address.invalid> wrote:
> On 1/31/2011 5:33 AM, JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>
> > IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote in message How about cracking each window an

> > inch for some fresh air and turning
> > off the motor ? <<<<
>
> > You mean open the window just enough so someone can run a slim jim
> > though the opening and silently open the window ?
> > Good plan.
>
> How about not dying from carbon monoxide poisoning.

There is no carbon monixide if the engine is off and the windows are
cracked.

Señor Herrrrerrra

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Feb 1, 2011, 1:17:31 AM2/1/11
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On 1/31/2011 9:08 PM, IlBe...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 31, 10:00 pm, Se�or Herrrrerrra<Sociali...@Use-Author-Supplied-

That's what I meant. Windows closed and engine running is a bad thing.

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Feb 1, 2011, 12:20:43 PM2/1/11
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On Feb 1, 12:17 am, Señor Herrrrerrra <Sociali...@Use-Author-Supplied-
Address.invalid> wrote:
> That's what I meant. Windows closed and engine running is a bad thing.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Ok, so, why not shut off the engine and crack a window for some
ventilation (if need be) ... at least during times when its a nice
comfortable temperature outside for sleeping ???

Dean

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Feb 1, 2011, 12:46:52 PM2/1/11
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More like a fagster!

Dean

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Feb 1, 2011, 12:48:38 PM2/1/11
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:10:25 -0600, Janet Wilder
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>>> JerryD(upstateNY)
>>
>> Cmon....will ya ?! No one in their right mind is going to attempt
>> that knowing most Truckers are packing , plus the noise a Slim Jim
>> would make trying to open the door .
>
>It's illegal for truck drivers to pack.

It's illegal to kill someone too, Has that stopped killing?

Señor Herrrrerrra

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Feb 1, 2011, 2:48:29 PM2/1/11
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I agree, that would make more sense.

Owen McKenzie

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Feb 1, 2011, 6:12:36 PM2/1/11
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Have Shad filtered, but followed the link and this is a quote. Do you
think this qualifies as "packing":

"Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or
regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person
who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting,
shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a
firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully
possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully
possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the
firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being
transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the
passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in
the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's
compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked
container other than the glove compartment or console." ?

--
Owen McKenzie
Posting from Largo, FL

Frank Tabor

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Feb 1, 2011, 6:28:55 PM2/1/11
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Owen, Federal Motor Carrier Regulations prohibit truck drivers from
having in their possession, in the cab, a firearm of any type. No matter
how it is "packaged".


--
You will be dead within a year.

Señor Herrrrerrra

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Feb 1, 2011, 6:30:56 PM2/1/11
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Each state has different regulations on transporting firearms and
peaceful transit. The best thing to do is get a Utah CCW permit. Then
you're OK to carry concealed in about 31 states. With additional non
resident permits you can cover other states.

Owen McKenzie

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Feb 1, 2011, 8:53:54 PM2/1/11
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OK. Just quoted the link because that obviously doesn't qualify as packing.

Dave Dodson

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Feb 2, 2011, 3:31:40 AM2/2/11
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"IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:70bfe9f5-92dc-
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///snipped///>

> Im seeing it done on NON-refer Semi Trailers where they run the
> engines all night long . Is the drivers compartment sealed off from
> the bunk in the back ... or it is all open inside ? Why do they need
> to do it when its a nice 60 or 70 f. at nighttime ? If its all open
> inside, cant they just crack their windows for some fresh air ? Ive
> noticed many Drivers dont run their engines . Seems like a big waste
> of deisel fuel and noise to those around them. I dont know how they
> themselves could even sleep with the pinging noise that deisel engines
> make.

Because they WANT to!!!! Besides that, why are u parked in a truck stop
parking lot anyway. There are plenty of rv campgrounds around where you
wouldn't be bothered by those big, noisy, smelly, awful trucks. If you want
to stay the night for free, then don't complain about them....

DaveD

Eddie

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Feb 3, 2011, 12:46:56 AM2/3/11
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:30:56 -0700, Señor Herrrrerrra
<Socia...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote:

<snip>


>Each state has different regulations on transporting firearms and
>peaceful transit. The best thing to do is get a Utah CCW permit. Then
>you're OK to carry concealed in about 31 states. With additional non
>resident permits you can cover other states.

My understanding is that if a truck tractor has a living compartment
that it is considered a "home" (on wheels?) and therefore one can
"pack" legally.
As for having a diesel truck running, I drive diesel buses (transit)
and by federal law they cannot be left running longer than 5 minutes
when stopped. I think it applies to trucks also.
btw, I have a Utah CFP (Concealed Firearm Permit) but living in the
people's republic of kalifornia, it is not valid.
Eddie

Hustlin' Hank

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Feb 3, 2011, 6:04:05 AM2/3/11
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On Jan 30, 12:19 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Ive stayed at a few truck stops overnight and notice that most Drivers
> will run their engines all night long while sleeping , yet some will
> turn their engines off.....and the outside temps dont seem to be a
> factor  . When youre in an RV next to one of them that lets their
> engine run,  its noisy...so im wondering whats up with that ?

Like others have said, there are various reasons. Why don't you go ask
a trucker?

To add to the list of why do they run their engines.........

It will keep their battery charged while operating their inverters to
run their personal refrigerator, TV, computers and misc. electronics.
If they didn't run the engine, their batteries would be dead in the
morning. Same as RV'ers running their Generators.

It creates a background noise because of so many other trucks and RV's
pulling in next to them.

Truckers are an army within themselves. Over-the-road trucking is a
terribly underpaid and unappreciated job. They are away from thier
familes for months at a time. They have to eat and sleep in a truck,
or worse yet, eat greasy truck stop food. Since they can only drive
about 11 hours a day ( may be a little different now), that means they
have to sit at a truck stop/rest area for 13 hours waiting. Then when
they reach their maximum in a week, they have to sit for a couple more
days waiting for their time to catch up with the federal law
requirements. Lets see how you would like that.

Hank <~~~~ wonders what would happen if they all quit..... terrible!

Frank Tabor

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Feb 3, 2011, 10:33:51 AM2/3/11
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You understand wrong, Federal Motor Carrier regulations prohibit the
driver of a commercial vehicle from possessing a firearm in the vehicle.
Type of vehicle doesn't matter.

Idling a tractor trailer is dependent upon local and state ordinances.
Laws vary from state to state.

--
The sex life of spiders is very interesting.
He fucks her.
She bites his head off.
-- From a Women's Lib Poster

Hustlin' Hank

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Feb 3, 2011, 1:07:05 PM2/3/11
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On Feb 3, 10:33 am, Frank Tabor <fta...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> You understand wrong, Federal Motor Carrier regulations prohibit the
> driver of a commercial vehicle from possessing a firearm in the vehicle.
> Type of vehicle doesn't matter.
>

Isn't an Armored Truck considered a commercial vehicle? Don't they
carry a gun? Are you sure the type of vehicle doesn't matter? :-)

Hank <~~~ thinks Frank wasn't thinking

Frank Tabor

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Feb 3, 2011, 6:34:42 PM2/3/11
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FMC regulations don't cover Armored cars. They aren't for hire.


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They Tore Out My Heart and Stomped That Sucker Flat
-- Book title by Lewis Grizzard

Tom J

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Feb 5, 2011, 10:57:20 PM2/5/11
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I drove 18 wheelers for 2 different companies and both had conditions
drivers had to meet to drive for them and 1 of those conditions was
not to have a fire arm in the vehicle. Some terminals I delivered to
had signs at the entrance "NO FIRE ARMS ALLOWED". I did have the
sledge hammer handle for whacking tires and anyone that tried to come
in the cab with me. Back to the original question. I ran the engine in
my tractor when I slept because it created an environment that was
constant and subdued all other outside noises. That way I could be
sleeping within minutes & be rested and ready to drive another 10
hours after my rest break!! There is no way I would sleep with open
windows in a truck stop!!

Tom J


Janet Wilder

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Feb 6, 2011, 11:01:38 AM2/6/11
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On 2/5/2011 9:57 PM, Tom J wrote:

> I drove 18 wheelers for 2 different companies and both had conditions
> drivers had to meet to drive for them and 1 of those conditions was
> not to have a fire arm in the vehicle. Some terminals I delivered to
> had signs at the entrance "NO FIRE ARMS ALLOWED". I did have the
> sledge hammer handle for whacking tires and anyone that tried to come
> in the cab with me. Back to the original question. I ran the engine in
> my tractor when I slept because it created an environment that was
> constant and subdued all other outside noises. That way I could be

> sleeping within minutes& be rested and ready to drive another 10


> hours after my rest break!! There is no way I would sleep with open
> windows in a truck stop!!

The sound of the idling Diesel engine was what put me to sleep and kept
me sleeping when I drove tractor trailer. I don' think I ever slept
better than I did in the bunk of a Freightliner.

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Feb 6, 2011, 9:04:22 PM2/6/11
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Its an annoyance to those around between the noise and the smell of
exhaust. if the wind is blowing right.

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Feb 6, 2011, 10:34:53 PM2/6/11
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IlBe...@gmail.com" wrote in message ..... Its an annoyance to those around
between the noise and the smell of
exhaust. if the wind is blowing right.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

If all the trucks have their windows closed and their engines running, there
is no noise or smell.
If it bothers you, DON'T PARK AT A TRUCK STOP !!!!!!

--
JerryD(upstateNY)

Janet Wilder

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Feb 6, 2011, 11:11:19 PM2/6/11
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Pay for a campground. There are no big rigs in there.

Shad O'Shay

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>
> I don' think I ever slept better than I did in the bunk of a Freightliner.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder

Truck stop prostitute?

The Shadster


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