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Steven Stern

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Mar 26, 2001, 12:01:05 AM3/26/01
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I see signs in a lot of places about truck weight limits in the 3-5 tons
range and I wonder if this applies to my rv.

My rv has a gvwr of 11,500 lbs, so if I do the math right this turns
out to be just over 5 tons. (assuming 1 ton = 2240 lbs). The base
vw is 9000 lbs, or about 4 tons.

So am I correct to assume I cannot go thru roads that have signs
posted with 3-5 ton limits ? Am I looking at this the right way or
is the weight limit an axle rating and I should be looking at axle
weight instead ?

Thanks for any advice you can provide on this.
Steve


Slick...@ididnothavesexwiththatwoman.com

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Mar 26, 2001, 1:26:22 AM3/26/01
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"RichA" <richatpa*nospam*@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Steve,
> I would obey all weight restrictions. They are usually placed on
> roads because of bridges or other structural considerations. 5 Tons
> is 5 tons no matter an RV or a truck. If something can't hold 5 tons
> of truck it isn't going to hold 5 tons of RV either! :)
>
> I always believed (in the US) that the signs referred to short tons,
> or 2000 lbs. not long tons 2240 lbs. Could be wrong, never even
> thought about it before. Something to check on, on a rainy day.
> Using the short ton your RV GVWR is 5.75 tons, or 5.13 long tons.
> How much it actually weighs, only you would know by having it weighed.
> Hope this helps.
> RichA
> "We Get To Soon Olde and To Late Smart"

"We Get TOO Soon Olde and TOO Late Smart"


Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie

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Mar 26, 2001, 8:47:09 AM3/26/01
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In article <l2Av6.4915$ad1.5...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com>,
"Steven Stern" <ste...@rahul.net> wrote:

> I see signs in a lot of places about truck weight limits in the 3-5 tons
> range and I wonder if this applies to my rv.
>

Maybe. You need to check the local/state regulations.

Some times the load range given is the GCVW, some times it applied
only to commercial, sometimes it's a -per- axle rating. In general all
wieght regulations apply to RVs as well though

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Mark

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Mar 26, 2001, 12:34:04 PM3/26/01
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Steve wonders:

>
>I see signs in a lot of places about truck weight limits in the 3-5 tons
>range and I wonder if this applies to my rv.
>

As a matter of principle, assume that it does. There's a sidestreet in a
suburb San Francisco that I had to back down (about half mile) because both
myself and the co-pilot missed the "weight limit 2 ton" sign. It was dark, it
was narrow, but the cop who helped us back it down the road was very nice..
even gave us an escort out of town....

HTH,
Mark

Wade

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Mar 26, 2001, 5:35:25 PM3/26/01
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He really wanted you out of town he?

Steph and Dud B.

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Mar 26, 2001, 8:27:42 PM3/26/01
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If not specifically marked otherwise, I would assume the limit was on the
total weight of the vehicle. Sometimes a sign will have one weight posted
for a single-unit vehicle like a box truck, and a higher number posted for
vehicles with trailers.
--
Dudley (http://members.aol.com/stephndudb/rv.html)
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Noel Lyons

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Mar 27, 2001, 12:19:15 AM3/27/01
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In article <l2Av6.4915$ad1.5...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com>, "Steven
Stern" <ste...@rahul.net> wrote:

> I see signs in a lot of places about truck weight limits in the 3-5 tons
> range and I wonder if this applies to my rv.

If the sign says only "weight limit", assume it applies equally to rvs,
trucks, and everything else. The limitation is probably a lightweight
bridge or something similar.

Some signs say "truck weight limit". At least in California, these are
usually meant to keep big trucks off certain routes and do not apply to
rvs.

Then you get signs that say "no through trucks over N tons". This is
another way of keeping (most) commercial traffic off certain roads, but
wouldn't apply to rvs.

Anyway, that's my understanding, but I'm no expert. caveat emptor etc.
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Hugh Darling

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Mar 28, 2001, 12:44:25 PM3/28/01
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Noel Lyons wrote:
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> Then you get signs that say "no through trucks over N tons". This is
> another way of keeping (most) commercial traffic off certain roads, but
> wouldn't apply to rvs.
>
> Anyway, that's my understanding, but I'm no expert. caveat emptor etc.
> --
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The important part is the "N tons". Doesn't matter if it's an 18
wheeler, 10 wheeler or and RV, weight is the issue. The bridge/road
can't tell the difference.
Hugh


Jacbecmars

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Mar 28, 2001, 4:03:00 PM3/28/01
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>The important part is the "N tons". Doesn't matter if it's an 18
>wheeler, 10 wheeler or and RV, weight is the issue.

Thats not always the case. Often its simply to keep commercial vehicles out of
neighborhoods. I am familiar with a couple of locations where there are
several class A's parked by houses yet there is a prohibition on X ton trucks.
No bridges involved. Jack

Greg Surratt

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Mar 28, 2001, 5:45:28 PM3/28/01
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:19:15 GMT, NOnoeln...@earthlink.net (Noel
Lyons) wrote:

>Some signs say "truck weight limit". At least in California, these are
>usually meant to keep big trucks off certain routes and do not apply to
>rvs.
>
>Then you get signs that say "no through trucks over N tons". This is
>another way of keeping (most) commercial traffic off certain roads, but
>wouldn't apply to rvs.
>
>Anyway, that's my understanding, but I'm no expert. caveat emptor etc.

And just to add a bit more confusion, my RAM 3500 is a "one ton"
truck, but has a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 lbs. At 6,600
lbs net weight, I can carry just short of 1.75 tons.

So, do I obey the "no through trucks over 1 ton" signs??? No.

Do the cops enforce the weight limit???? Not for me, anyways - or at
least not yet - knock on wood.

Slick...@ididnothavesexwiththatwoman.com

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Mar 29, 2001, 12:35:24 AM3/29/01
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"RichA" <richatpa*nospam*@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Greg,
> If the no trucks over 1 ton signs are there because of structural
> limits, you should be obeying them weather the cops enforce it or not.
> Since your truck is 3 tons empty. That's a funny sign though, since
> the majority of cars are over 1 ton. Sounds like that one is there to
> keep commercial trucks from using that road.
>
> In our area, cops ain't gonna bother no one unless there is a problem
> (you have an accident), or someone complains, or unless they know
> there is a serious problem with heavy vehicles on that particular
> road. Now that's not to say you can't catch one in a bad mood and
> decide to enforce the limits, or maybe the locality needs a few extra
> bucks in their coffers.
>
> Signs they use a lot around here to keep trucks off of certain
> streets/roads is "NO Trucks, except local delivery" I've never seen
> or heard of this being enforced for pickup trucks, just commercial
> vehicles..
>
> If I saw a sign that said "Truck Weight Limit" I would think that this
> would apply to any vehicle. The signs like that around here are
> usually posted because something somewhere on that road can't handle
> weights over the posted limits. With the condition of most of our
> small bridges, drainage pipes, etc. I for sure wouldn't want to take
> a chance.

>
>
> RichA
> "We Get To Soon Olde and To Late Smart"

To confuse the issue further, the department of transportation says that
your pick up truck is not a truck unless it has a GVW of 8,000# or more.


Young

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Mar 29, 2001, 12:14:29 PM3/29/01
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Hugh,
The damage done to the road is not related to the total weight so much
as it is related to the load each tire applies to the surface. If you
put a plank between to concrete blocks and stand in the middle you
will get a certain deflection. If you lay on the plank lengthways you
will get a smaller deflection, or you could carry a higher load with
the same deflection. Roads are no different. The highly concentrated
load of a truck tire will do damage where most rv's will not .

So when you see a weight limit which applies to the road, most times
you can ignore it. However if you see a weight limit that applies to a
bridge, then it applies to the whole weight on the bridge at one time,
so don't ignore it.

On some bridges you will see notices saying trucks must maintain a
certain distance seperation. That's so that the total weight from
trucks doesn't exceed the bridge safe capacity. Your RV doesn't count
because the weight you impose on the bridge is very small relative to
a bunch of trucks one of which might be hauling upwards of 40 to 80
thousand pounds.

Frederick

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Harald

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Mar 29, 2001, 1:42:58 PM3/29/01
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It's the same here in Washington state. Most rules apply only to commercial
vehicles. For example, Signs that say "Vehicles over 10,000 lbs GVWR must
use right lane" apply only to commercial vehicles. Also, you don't have to
pay gross weight on you license to cover the weight of your fifth wheel.

I would assume that bridge weight limits would apply to all vehicles though.
The bridge has no way of knowing not to collapse just because you are an RV.

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