- NET_RESOURCES.TXT (0/1) Frequent Posting 'Net resources for Camping and RV's
R Lindberg / E Winnie
There are several updates in this release. Most notably they include,
the URL for KOA <http://www.koakampgrounds.com> and the URL for Camping
World <http://www.campingworld.com>.
I was forced to post this in an non-normal manner, I hop it all works
TTFN Ralph
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= PERIODIC POSTING =
= Online information for Camping and RV's =
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This is the periodic posting of Online resources for Camping and
Recreational Vehicles, which is posted on the first of each month to the
following newsgroups, alt.rv, alt.rec.camping, rec.outdoors.camping,
rec.outdoors.rv-travel, rec.answers and news.answers. This edition
contains URL tags that should be readable by HTML smart readers, such as
Netscape 2.0 and YA-Newswatcher
This FAQ will also be available via WWW. The WWW site is
<http://kendaco.telebyte.net/rlindber/RV/online.html>
This is revision 1.3 of the FAQ dated 1 July1996.
Complied by Ralph Lindberg <drag...@scn.org> Please contact Ralph
Lindberg with suggestions, changes, additions, etc
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compiled to be as accurate as possible, there are no expressed or implied
warranties that the information contained herein is correct, of any value,
or suitable for any purpose. If you use this information in any way, you
assume full responsibility for the results of your actions. In no event will
the author, or others be liable for any results or the lack thereof.
Neither of the compilers have any connection with any of the business that
may be mentioned in the FAQ except possibly as a satisfied customer
unless there is a specific statement to the contrary in the text.
Please note: if your news reader puts strange characters, where double
and single quotes might be being used. The fault is the character set my
news program uses is not the same as the character set yours uses. I am
working on fixing this problem.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS.
Copyright and Disclaimer.
1.1 Advertising on the net
1.2 Related news groups, and email lists
1.2.1 Newsgroups
1.2.2 Email lists
1.3 WWW and INTERNET resources.
1.3.1 RV and Camping Camping Dealers
1.3.2 RV Loans
1.3.3 RV rentals
1.3.4 General Camping Supllies
1.3.5 What RV Parks are on the Net?
1.4 Other resources and selected personal home pages
1.4.1 Clubs. Rallys, etc
1.4.2 Government Links
1.4.3 Books
1.4.4 Other Misc
1.4.5 Other Commercial
1.5 Net Resources on the Road
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1.1 Advertising on the net
Jerry writes
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Banjoguy, banj...@aol.com writes:
>I have a new product for RVs but am told I could not advertise it on
>the Internet. Is this true or is there a special area for advertising?
Jerry <je...@peachnet.edu> writes
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
There is or will soon be no rule that says you can not send commercial
traffic (advertisement or otherwise) on the net. The rule was there when
the Federal Government (under the name of the National Science
Foundation) paid for the nationwide backbone. This payment is being
turned off and so is the rule in most places.
This has led some enterprising companies to believe that they can send
their messages indiscriminately across the net. Fortunately or
unfortunately as you choose to believe, there are millions of people that
read these news groups and not one of them want to see their
communication media turned into a wasteland of junk mail messages from
overly aggressive companies so they use some very persuasive methods to
keep the junk (read advertisements) off the net. If you have not heard of a
flame, just try to send a message (any message) to hundreds of news
groups at once (called spaming). You will find your machine in the turned
off state very quickly as all those millions that you send to can return the
favor just as easily and their messages frequently include the electronic
equivalent of a brick [usually called a 10 Megabyte core dump but other
files have been used]
Thus you may conclude that advertising on the net is a bad thing to do. On
the other hand, There are many that find the participation of companies
very beneficial (I do) so long as they are courteous and consider the
feelings of others. I suspect that many on this group would welcome a
solution to their problems (that is the reason for most posts) thus you and
anyone else are welcome to participate in the discussion and offer
solutions. Just join in the discussions and offer help where you can and
identify yourself as a salesperson for the solution offered. Following this
procedure you will probably find many friends that will thank you for your
help by purchasing your product.
My suggestion is to start a World Wide Web server and put a full
description of your product with pictures there. Then post a small notice
in the group (or send the URL to Ralph and he will put it in the FAQ) that
tells where to find more information. People only get angry when they are
forced to pay money or time to read about a product they care nothing
about.
Just remember nice people get nice responses and vice versa.
Just my opinion - I don't speak for the trees or the net.
Ralph writes
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While there are few rules in Usenet, posting an ad for an unrelated
product to a newsgroup is a certain way to make enemies. I can say for
certain that as of this writing (two weeks after the creation of
rec.outdoors.rv-travel) one persons un-related ad to rec.outdoors.rv-travel
has cost him his net access. I can and will complain to the site admin of
any poster that sends out an unrelated ad. Many providers cancel accounts
for this activity.
I will include pointers (email or a URL) for related businesses in the
FAQ. In addtion there is a newsgroup made just for marketing your outdoor
related item. <news:rec.outdoors.markplace>
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1.2 Related news group and email lists
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Many will enjoy these groups as they relate to travel, camping and related
subjects.
1.2.1 Newsgroups
<news:rec.outdoors.camping>- The main General Camping newsgroup
<news:rec.outdoors.rv-travel>- The main RV newsgroup
<news:rec.outdoors.markplace>- The Outdoor newsgroup for buying and
selling
<news:rec.backcountry> - Activities in the great outdoors, mostly the
backcountry
rec.outdoors.fishing.* - A hierarchy about aspects of sport and commercial
fishing
<news:rec.outdoors.national>-parks - Just that, all nationsš national parks
<news:rec.parks.theme> - Entertainment theme parks
rec.travel.*- A hierarchy about travel and travel ideas
<news:alt.rv>- The old RV newsgroup, receives very few posts now.
<news:alt.rec.camping>- The old General camping newsgroup, receives very
few posts now.
1.2.2 Email lists
The RV email list is found at <mailto:r...@kendaco.telebyte.net>. You can
subscribe to this list by posting to <mailto:list...@kendaco.telebyte.net>
with the only text in the body of the message subscribe rv. This is carries
few posts but is in use and provided by one of my service providers.
1.3 WWW information and E-mail sources
1.3.1 RV and Camping Parts Dealers
1.3.1.1 RV Dealers
Yahoošs Business listing
<http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Automotive/Recreational_Vehicles/>
<http://www.trailer.net/mts/prod/coach/coach1.htm>
Maryland Coach Sales
<http://www.rvbuyers.com/>
Poulsbo RV
<http://www.dealernet.com>
Holiday Rambler, Coachmen
<http://www.execpc.com/~mcorley/rvshowmc.html>
An ever changing motorhome trade show on the web
<http://advantage.allyn.com/>
Discount Marine
<http://www.channel1.com/users/silverrv>
Coachmen
<http://www.presair.com/revcon/>
Revcon Motor homes, based an a Ford F-350 4x4
1.3.1.2 Parts and accesories
MSR Stoves (Backpacking and Expedition Stoves)
<Http://www.msrcorp.com/msr>
BatCat battery charger
<http://www.galvanix.com/>
RV Safety Equipment
<http://www.imall.com/imall/Specialty_Shops/circle/circle.html>
Satellite DSS-TV
<http://www.satwarehouse.com>
Satellite Cell Phone
<http://www.azstarnet.com/public/commerce/satellite>
Used RV parts
<http://www.primenet.com/~azrvinc>
J.C. Whitney Co
<http://shopping2000.com/shopping2000/jc_whitney/jc_whitney.html>
Rheem Airconditioners
<http://www.rheem.com/rheem>
1.3.1.3 Other
<http://www.outwestnewspaper.com>
Outwest, a quarterly camping publication
<http://www.imaginet.fr/~joueur>
Renting and Camping in Europe
<http:/www.usa.net/resortx>
RV Resort Exchange
< http://www.delorme.com>
Delorme Maps (CD-ROM)
<http://www.presair.com/camping/>
Camping Infromation for Presidential Tours
<http://www.rvshop.com>
RV Shop
<http://motorhome.com>
Motorhome
1.3.2 RV Loans
<http://www.financenter.com/resources/autoloan/index.html>
1.3.3 RV rentals
<http://www.elmonte.com>
Elmonte Motor Home rentals
<http://www.interlog.com/~passport>
One way rentals
<mailto:oas...@aol.com>
Rentals (and Sales)
<http://motorhome.com/> (Coming soon!)
<http://canadiana.com/cwrv/> (for now!)
<mailto:rvre...@canadiana.com>
Canada West R.V.
< http://www.rvrent.com>
RV Rent, Canadian RV rental
1.3.4 General Camping Supllies
Camping World (One of the Largest Suppliers of RV and Camping
equipment)
<http://www.campingworld.com/>
Recreational Equipment Inc (A Camping, Hiking and Outdoors related Co-
Op)
<http://www.rei.com>
Nesmark Camping
<http://www.texas.net/nesmark>
Campmor (a camping supply company based in New Jersey, offers mail
order)
<http://www.campmor.com>
LL Bean Co (a camping supply company)
<http://www.llbean.com>
Outdoor Source
<http://www.tyrell.net/~outdoors/
Cybershop also has outdoor items
<http://cybershop.com>
Jesse Brown, providers of outdoor gear
<http://www.jessebrown.com>
Truck Tent, Tents for Pick-up Trucks
<http://www.vaxxine.com/trucktent>
1.3.5 What RV Parks are on the Net?
KOA is on line, with a listing of all their parks
<http://www.koakampgrounds.com>
Yogi Bearšs Jelleystone Park Restort
<http://members.aol.com/yogiturney>
RV park near Mt Shasta Ca.
<mailto:rod...@snowcrest.net>
SOUTH PRONG CREEK Campground
<http://www.mauiweb.com/comp/rv-park/>
General listing of western (private) campgrounds
<http://www.campgrounds.com/>
Recreational Properties for sale
<http://www.kcinternet.com/RPRE/>
Discount on Campgrounds
<http:www.cooldeals.com/passport>
Bayleysš Resort, Scarborough Maine
<http://www.bayleys-camping.com/>
1.4 Other RV and camping related items (along with selected personal
pages).
1.4.1 Clubs, Rallys, Groups, etc
A Good Sam office can be found at:
Dee Reed <mailto:73324...@compuserve.com>
Also the Good Sam (TL Enterprises) Home page is
<http://www.tl.com/>
The Escapeešs RV Club
<http://www.channel1.com/users/escapees>
RV Rallys in the Southern USA
<http://www.lacajun.com/creativeworld.html/>
1.4.2 Government Resources
<http://www.fs.fed.us/>
The US Forest Service Home page
1.4.3 Books and Media
Outdoor Books source
<http://www.bookserve.com/>
Powels Books
<http://www.powells.portland.or.us>
1.4.4 Other Misc
Yahoošs RV listing
<http://www.yahoo.com/Recreation/Travel/Recreational_Vehicles__RV_/>
the Motorcycle camping homepage
<http://www.vive.com/connect/ibmc/>
A page with a North West (American) flare
< http://www.pacificrim.net/~tgonser/RV.html>
A really good page, in Alberta Canada, I know this mark is broke, the
owner mailed the correction, only I lost it (sigh)
<http://nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca/camp.html>
1.4.4 Other Commercial
California RV
<http://www.liberty.com/home/larv/larv.htm>
RV Amercia, misc RV information
<http://www.rvamerica.com/>
RV Shop
<http://www.RVSHOP.COM/>
RV Camping
<http://www.rvcamping.com/>
RV Central
<http://rvcentral.com/home.htm>
RV Link
<http://rvlink.com/>
RV USA, a resource for the RV Industry
<http://rvusa.com/>
Campnet America
<http://www.kiz.com/>
RV and travel info
<http://www.rvhiway.com/>
Campground Online
<http://www.channel1.com/users/brosius>
RV Net
<http://qb.island.net/~oceansd/>
RVšs Freighted to Alaska
<http://www.seanet.com/~sbenbow/>
1.5 Net Access on the Road
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2.3 On Road with the INTERNET
...or... I donšt want to lose my net connection while Išm on the road, what
can I do?
Ralph writes:
Choosing a provider:
The first thing to remember is that it's not going to be as cheap or
good as your home to your local connection. As far as I'm concerned there
is not `right' answer, and only maybe `wrong' answers.
You can continue to get service from your current provider. Most of
the large national providers have local numbers in most urban areas,
however only a few rural areas are covered. This certainly mean a long
distance call to your `national' provider when you are staying at Snow
Bank Alaska.
You could also call your current provider long distance via a number
of plans. All three of the `biggies' offer long distance discount plans, one
where all calls to a particular town (say where you live and your service
provider is) could be a good idea.
Another good idea is the personal 1-800 numbers. These can be set up
to call any number you chose, like your providers. You certainly want one
where a PIN or password is required.
You could sign up with a provider that offers 1-800 access. Or you
could go with one of the providers that offers `free' access. These
providers get their money via profit sharing with the long distance
provider and some restrict which provider can be used.
Finding a Phone Jack at the RV park
Good luck.
This is `real new' stuff here as far as most parks are concerned. I've
yet to see a phone at any RV park that was set up to allow a modem to be
added or removed easily. Many parks don't have phone lines to each site.
Perhaps some parks could add phones for the travelers, with all but 1-800
type long distance locked out.
Another option is the cradle modem. One of these would allow you to
use any phone, even a pay phone.
In closing Trailer Lifešs home page has a listing, that they are working
hard at keeping up to date, of all known parks that are on-line friendly.
<http://www.tl.com/advice/roads_phones.html>
--
Ralph Lindberg N7BSN Ellen Winnie N7PYK e-mail <drag...@scn.org>
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