Anyone using RV Chem products?
Tom
appreciated.
thanks
Tom
Mike, CA
Mike, CA
RVChem -> http://www.rvchem.net
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Tom <tga...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Is anyone using RV Chem products in their tanks? Any info would be
> appreciated.
> thanks
> Tom
>
for the past 2 months or so, and I think it's the best I've found anywhere.
It's less expensive to use than any of the stuff you'll find in the camping
supply stores, RV retail stores, etc. All I can really tell you is that it
works great. Our holding tanks now empty a bit faster, too. After using RV
Chem, I won't use anything else.
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Ed J
septic tank product? They both claim to encourage helpful
bacteria and enzymes.
Since Rid-Ex is packaged for home septic tanks, the instructions
tell you to use the entire box for 1000 gal tank. Use in an
RV holding tank would have to be scaled back to a teaspoon or
two of the powder.
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On my retirement adventure from the rolling hills of
the Southern Tier in New York State..... Traveling in my
1999 Dodge 2500 6-spd diesel, 1999 Sunnybrook 27RKFS 5th-wheel
Mike, CA
>
> What is the difference between 'RV Chem' products and 'Rid-ex' (sp?)
> septic tank product? They both claim to encourage helpful
> bacteria and enzymes.
>
> Since Rid-Ex is packaged for home septic tanks, the instructions
> tell you to use the entire box for 1000 gal tank. Use in an
> RV holding tank would have to be scaled back to a teaspoon or
> two of the powder.
Ed,
I'm going to try to answer your question without pitching our products. What I
'will' do is give you some of my conclusions based upon the information I've
gathered for an article I'm working on for a monthly publication. It
describes the differences between 'septic system' treatment products such as
RID-X and Doctor Drain and liquid enzyme producing bacteria type RV 'holding
tank' products.
Please bear in mind that this information is in draft form.
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RID-X has been a standard for 'septic system' treatment for many years. The
suggested application is one 16 oz. bottle each month for every 1000 gallons of
septic tank capacity. Its base cost is $4.37 + tax for 16 oz. bottle in the
retail market. (WalMart)
The efficiency of RID-X and other 'septic system' treatments of the same ilk
in a real world 'RV' application is questionable for several reasons.
First, the products are granular. Granular products are hard to dissolve
without specific agitation and I don't believe that just the motion of the
contents of the holding tank which would be created by moving the RV down the
road is enough to do the job. Any active ingredient not dissolved is wasted.
Second, granular products contain fillers to create volume, or the appearance of
mass. Many people have reported finding sand like granular material remaining
on the bottom of an otherwise empty holding tank after they've dumped it when
they've been using such products. One wonders what this material does to the
holding tank drain valves, seals and gaskets.
Third, liquid enzyme/bacteria holding tank products are active immediately upon
introduction to the tanks. Granular products must be REactivated from their
dormant state and therefore take longer to work.
Fourth, I'm not confident of the active ingredients in 'septic system' granular
products. Although some say that they contain enzyme producing bacteria I
suspect
that phraseology could be used if the active ingredient were in fact merely
yeast. If so, they won't have the quick acting efficiency of liquid 'RV' type
products. Remember, a 'septic system' requires long term bacteriological
treatment in a cool environment. A good product for an RV must act 'quickly' as
well as effectively, and 'usually' for a shorter period of time and within a
greater range of ambient temperatures. RID-X type products wouldn't remain in
an
RV holding tank long enough to do the job for which it was designed.
Fifth, RID-X and others of that ilk are made to treat human waste and TP so they
are limited to black water holding tank use. One would necessarily have to buy
and use yet another product(s) for odor control and grey water treatment. Our
liquid enzyme/bacteria RV holding tank products are formulated to treat not only
human waste and TP but grease, oils and food byproducts as well.
Sixth, 'septic system' treatment products make no provision for odor control,
something which is very desirable in RV and marine holding tank applications.
The in-use cost of our product to treat 20 gallons of either black or grey water
holding tank content is only $ .3125 (see NOTE 1). It would cost approximately
ten cents for the RID-X to treat the same amount of material in a RV black water
holding tank. That's a savings of $ .21 BUT, this very small savings would be
lost by virtue of having to buy a second (and perhaps more) product. Our
biochemical formulation, developed just 15 months ago, contains four different
strains of bacteria to handle a much wider and greater variety of organic
material
than RID-X or other 'septic system' treatment products.
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NOTE 1: Amount indicated includes shipping costs within CONUS which is approx.
25% of total cost.
NOTE 2: There are many folks who use granular type RV holding tank products and
swear by them. We simply don't believe that they do the *immediate* job of
liquid products but won't argue the point. As long as you don't use holding
tank products which contain formaldehyde, alcohol, bleach, pine oil, etc. we
don't have a problem. ;-)
e...@best.com
Tom <tga...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Is anyone using RV Chem products in their tanks? Any info would be
>appreciated.
>thanks
>Tom
>
I bought my first bottle of Crestline Bacteria and have used it
for two weekends now. When I dump, I run my sewage through a clear
fitting so I can see the quality of the "product" as it goes.
I think with the Crestline stuff I have less solid matter in the tank
than before (using TST granular). Just little bits of feces and occasional
whisps of T-P.
The bathroom smells clean when I flush -- no whiff of sewage when the
valve is open.
I like the stuff and I think I'll keep using it.
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Ed Greenberg e...@greenberg.org Ham Radio: KM6CG
http://www.greenberg.org/
Master, Charity Jarman Lodge No. 362 F&AM, Campbell, California
bi...@flushitsolutions.com
not going to work for RV's. However, yeasts do not produce enzymes and
all bacteria products for septic tanks are not the same. Bacteria
secrete enzymes which help the bacteria digest waste. Enzymes alone are
inefficient and get used up. Bacteria continue to multiply (double in
numbers evry 20 minutes under ideal conditions), produce enzymes, and
digest waste.
Selected strains of bacteria can be harvested to produce superior
bacteria type septic tank treatments. If you are interested in such a
product, contact me off the list.
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Before you buy.