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Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 10:50:07 AM12/22/00
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We're frustrated with our oven Atwood/Wedgewood model R-2137BGP) which
is three years old. It has gotten to the point that we cannot use it
because it won't regulate the temperature. The burner comes on about
30-40 seconds after lighting the pilot but goes off within a few
minutes unless we place the control on broil.

I replaced the Thermostat (p/n 52122) but that had no effect. These
parts are expensive and I don't want to keep guessing.

We live full time in our Teton and cannot take it in for service.

Can you please give me some guidance on what to do?

In the interim I'm going to try to clean the pilot assembly. As a last
resort I will have to replace the entire oven.

Are ovens interchangable? Maybe a Magic Chef/Maytag would be a wise
move if I don't have to change the opening/corian counter!

Any advice would sincerely be appreciated!

Bob


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Tom J

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Dec 22, 2000, 11:08:05 AM12/22/00
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In article <91vt7e$ccq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Zub...@email.msn.com wrote:
> We're frustrated with our oven Atwood/Wedgewood model R-2137BGP) which
> is three years old. It has gotten to the point that we cannot use it
> because it won't regulate the temperature. The burner comes on about
> 30-40 seconds after lighting the pilot but goes off within a few
> minutes unless we place the control on broil.
>
> I replaced the Thermostat (p/n 52122) but that had no effect. These
> parts are expensive and I don't want to keep guessing.

It's suppose to turn the main burner off when it get up to the correct
temp. If it's the pilot light going out too, then you need to get the
thermocouple into the flame so it doesn't cool down when the draft gets
more intense because of the draw of the mail burner. You may even need
a new thermocouple, and they can be bought at any hardware store.

When you installed the new thermostat, did you set the temp with an
oven themometer? If not, that needs to be done, because the thermostst
has to be set to the oven. There is a screw in the end of the shaft,
under the knob, that is turned to run the temp up or down.

The local propane company has a tech that can come to your rig and
service the stove also.

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Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 11:30:51 AM12/22/00
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Thanks for the super fast response! I was just looking at your web
site. You are very talented! I assume Theron is your father. I lost
my dad 12/10/1968 so this time of year has mixed emotions.

The pilot stays on and the burner will also if I set the control at
Broil.

I did not make any adjustment but I'll turn it one way and then the
other to see if it has any effect.

I don't see a thermocouple. There is a capillary tube that attaches to
the back of the oven that is an integral part of the thermostat. This
is suppose to regulate the temperatue. This new unit seems to be
reacting just like the old one.

Thank you so much for the input, I'll get to work on it right now.


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Tom J

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Dec 22, 2000, 11:49:28 AM12/22/00
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In article <91vvjs$ee2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Zub...@email.msn.com wrote:

> I don't see a thermocouple.

The bulb of the thermocouple is in the path of the pilot light, but if
the pilot is staying lit, that is not your problem.

Thanks for the web site comments. My dad had been in a nursing home and
in bad health for 2 years when he died.

Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 1:30:36 PM12/22/00
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I took the burner assembly aprt removing the safety valve and
thermocouple.

I'm worndering if we bumped or bent the gas flute as it is on an appx
30 deg angle and could have been bent forcing something into that small
broiler area.

Anyway I think I figuerd out how this works. When I place the
temperature above 250 the small pilot expands and heats the
thermocouple which allows the saftey valve to open and the burner comes
on. When the temperature is reached the pilot reduces cooling the
thermocouple and closing the safety valve. That's what I can see
anyway.

It seems that the pilot won't expand below the 250 deg setting. I keep
the door open and the oven is not hot. Actually I can place my hand
almost anywhere and it's only warm including the thermostat capillary
tube.

I've tried adjusting the screw in the thermostat, it only turns 1/4 and
appears to be more of a shutoff than an adjustment. I have it wide
open.

Really appreciate your help!

In article <9200ml$fe4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Tom J

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Dec 22, 2000, 1:39:21 PM12/22/00
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In article <9206kd$kjq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Zub...@email.msn.com wrote:
> I took the burner assembly aprt removing the safety valve and
> thermocouple.
>
> I'm worndering if we bumped or bent the gas flute as it is on an appx
> 30 deg angle and could have been bent forcing something into that
small
> broiler area.
>
> Anyway I think I figuerd out how this works. When I place the
> temperature above 250 the small pilot expands and heats the
> thermocouple which allows the saftey valve to open and the burner
comes
> on. When the temperature is reached the pilot reduces cooling the
> thermocouple and closing the safety valve. That's what I can see
> anyway.
>
> It seems that the pilot won't expand below the 250 deg setting. I keep
> the door open and the oven is not hot. Actually I can place my hand
> almost anywhere and it's only warm including the thermostat capillary
> tube.
>
> I've tried adjusting the screw in the thermostat, it only turns 1/4
and
> appears to be more of a shutoff than an adjustment. I have it wide
> open.
>

I assume you mean it cuts the pilot light off.

You have a thermostat adjustment problem, so the adjusting screw for
your control must be located someplace else, maybe on the side of the
oven valve under the cook top.

Thomas Kranz

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Dec 22, 2000, 2:05:12 PM12/22/00
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I have EXACTLY the same problem; don't use the oven much, so have not done
anything for a while to fix it. PLEASE let me know when you solve the
problem. I am still guessing maybe a bad thermo-couple?
- Tom
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Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 2:01:16 PM12/22/00
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>
> I assume you mean it cuts the pilot light off.
>
> You have a thermostat adjustment problem, so the adjusting screw for
> your control must be located someplace else, maybe on the side of the
> oven valve under the cook top.
>
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Yes the pilot light goes out! I've looked at the Thermostat and there
is no other adjustment.

I just emailed Atwood and asked them about the adjustment.

Chris Bryant

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Dec 22, 2000, 2:31:57 PM12/22/00
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:01:16 GMT, Zub...@email.msn.com wrote:
<<..>>

>Yes the pilot light goes out! I've looked at the Thermostat and there
>is no other adjustment.
>
>I just emailed Atwood and asked them about the adjustment.

Pull the thermostat knob off, and look in the center of the
stem- that's the temperature adjustment.


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Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 2:46:19 PM12/22/00
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In article <IBN06.100$hk....@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

"Thomas Kranz" <tkr...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I have EXACTLY the same problem; don't use the oven much, so have not
done
> anything for a while to fix it. PLEASE let me know when you solve the
> problem. I am still guessing maybe a bad thermo-couple?
> - Tom
Hi Tom,

No I don't think it's the thermocouple as I can see the secondary pilot
going on and off.

I'm now thinking that it may be the pressure regulator but I haven't
figure out how to check it!

I'll let you know when I get it resolved!>

Tom J

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:06:52 PM12/22/00
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In article <uva74t0f3soumvqk1...@4ax.com>,

brya...@totcon.com wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:01:16 GMT, Zub...@email.msn.com wrote:
> <<..>>
> >Yes the pilot light goes out! I've looked at the Thermostat and
there
> >is no other adjustment.
> >
> >I just emailed Atwood and asked them about the adjustment.
>
> Pull the thermostat knob off, and look in the center of the
> stem- that's the temperature adjustment.
>
> --
> Chris Bryant

Chris, that's what I told him, and he said that turned to pilot light
off. I thought all those controls adjusted the temp in the center of
the stem. In fact, I thought all gas oven controls adjusted the temp in
the center of the control shaft, whether home, resturant, or RV models.

BTW, Thought you had quit for the holiday!! ;-)

Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:38:47 PM12/22/00
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Hi Guys!

What an idiot I am! I did not read your message properly Tom as I was
to eager to get this oven working. It was filthy and I've been going
over it with oven cleaner.

After my message about contacting Atwood I kept thinking about what you
said and picked up the old thermostat and gave it the eagle eye. After
Chris message I re read your and boy do I feel dumb.

I'm adjusting it now and it looks like the thermostat was the problem.

Thank you so very much for your time and patience.

By the way there is an excellent video you can download which shows the
sequence of operation of the oven On Atwoods website (
www.atwoodmobile.com <http://www.atwoodmobile.com> ) .

Thanks again!

Zub...@email.msn.com

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Dec 22, 2000, 3:48:35 PM12/22/00
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Problem sloved.

Look at the other thread. Tom Janis was super helpful!!

My problem was the thermostat. After I realized that I hadn't adjusted
the proper screw I was able to get the oven working.

I'm still in the process of setting it and it seems pretty sensitive.
Therefore I'd suggest that if you can see the secondary pilot
exhibiting the characteristics I described, you may want to try
resetting your thermostat.

I've had the entire assembly apart and cleaned the orifices et al.

Sure is nice to have helpful people like Ton Jansis around!

Good Luck with your oven and check out the video at atwood!

Tom J

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Dec 22, 2000, 8:11:07 PM12/22/00
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In article <920e4m$qlc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Zub...@email.msn.com wrote:
> Hi Guys!
>
> What an idiot I am! I did not read your message properly Tom as I was
> to eager to get this oven working

Not an idiot at all, just miscommunication. Sometimes it takes
different people saying the same thing in a little different way to get
the procedure correct. If you'll get a themometer and put in the oven
now, I think you can adjust it close enough to have cake again. ;-)

Thomas Kranz

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Dec 22, 2000, 11:25:05 PM12/22/00
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Let me know if the thermostat is really the culprit. My impression has been
the same as yours was at first. The thing went out after lighting so
quickly that I couldn't believe the thermostat could be kicking in so
quickly and shutting the burner down. Maybe, though. Let me know when you
are sure the problem is solved.
- Tom
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