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nothermark

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Mar 30, 2012, 12:20:02 PM3/30/12
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I've seen MH's and pull behinds but I never say a popup in a Walmart
that was up and in use. The other two options are not so obviously
spending the night. What does is the story on "free" camping in a
popup?

Dean

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Mar 30, 2012, 12:27:30 PM3/30/12
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I wouldn't chance a canvas sided or popup in a W-M. Very liable to
get, not keyed, but box openered.

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D-R

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Mar 30, 2012, 12:50:16 PM3/30/12
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I am not sure I would park a soft sided camper in the parking lot.
They are not always in the best areas and at least in a commercial area.
Also nothing is totally safe in a parking lot but canvas might just be
considered an invitation.

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AJ

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Mar 30, 2012, 3:54:14 PM3/30/12
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Ive stayed at Walmarts where there are quite a few RV's of many types
including a couple of PopUps at a given location ; if you are
surrounded by fellow RVers I wouldnt hesitate . I stayed overnight
at one particular Walmart out west and there must have been close to
20 RV's all staying there at the same time. It was sort of like
having our own little Town.

Tom J

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Mar 30, 2012, 4:36:49 PM3/30/12
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That's the reason I made the 2nd post. When parked overnight in any
commercial parking lot, you need to look like you are just parked!! There
sould be no pop-ups, pop-out extensions or slide outs extended. To do
otherwise is asking for a visitor - either the cops or the crooks!! IMHO

Tom J


ilbe...@gmail.com

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Mar 31, 2012, 10:45:37 AM3/31/12
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I cant see anything wrong with doing the slideouts to give you some
more room for the nights stay..but i wouldnt get the Bar-B out and
start grilling Steaks . As for Visitors....everyone should have
this little sign right next to their front door : " Castle Law is now
in effect " .

nothermark

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Mar 31, 2012, 7:47:01 PM3/31/12
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:36:49 -0400, "Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Agreed, thought it was worth pointing out. ;-)

Tom J

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Apr 2, 2012, 7:44:34 PM4/2/12
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As soon as you slide the room out IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE CAMPING instead of
just parking - no different than having the Bar-B set up. That is just the
thing that is getting RV's barred from more and more parking lots - a fudge
here "room out" and a fudge there "Bar-B out and a fudge "awning out and
table set up, etc etc. BTW, if you run the slide out in most truck stops
you are taking 2 spaces, Blocking someone else from a place to overnight.

Folks, if you can't just pull in and park for the night, go to a campground
so we can have the privilege of overnight in parking lots a little longer. I
may have 10 more years or so on SS income!!

Tom J


JKConey

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Apr 3, 2012, 10:13:52 PM4/3/12
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Explain this to me Tom. You say parking is OK, but overnight
isn't? I thought they welcome overnight RVers? Isn't that the idea of
being there at night? To sleep?

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Tom J

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Apr 3, 2012, 10:34:31 PM4/3/12
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You just wrote exactly what I wrote. What gets us in trouble in commercial
parking lots is when we start expanding beyond how we go down the highway.
Remember, the majority of these stores are in cities that have laws
regulating everything and when you become conspicuous you get there
attention. They have the last say!!

Tom J


Owen McKenzie

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Apr 4, 2012, 6:40:50 AM4/4/12
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What Tom said. The few times we've stopped at a Walmart to overnight we
do the following:

1. Go inside to get permission.
2. Get something to eat and/or shop the store.
3. Sleep is our unit without opening slides.

BTW, we have a 5th wheel that is configured in such a way that the
living area isn't accessible when the slides are in, just the refer.,
bath, & bed.

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Owen McKenzie
Posting from Largo, FL

"That may be YOUR point. MY point is to live each moment so as
to maximize the amount of complaining that can be done about said
moment, after the fact. It's not as easy as it looks." --jankplus

Ron

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Apr 4, 2012, 11:25:15 AM4/4/12
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"Owen McKenzie" wrote in message news:9u2mp9...@mid.individual.net...
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In the 5th wheel we couldn't use the bed without putting the bedroom slide
out. In our MH we can only get to one side of the bed and can't get to the
full bath without opening a slide. Hasn't been an issue as we have never
stayed in a Walmart parking lot.

Having a slide out doesn't bother me near as much as seeing an RV with the
awning out over carpet with several chairs and a grill sitting around in the
middle of the day with the tow vehicle or towed nowhere in site! Some even
take parking places that are not out on the far edge of the parking lot, but
are places closer to the door than where many are having to park, because
they want next to what little grass there is to make walking their dog(s)
easier! In my opinion there is a big difference in stopping in a parking
lot at Walmart to get a nights sleep and stopping there to "camp" a few days
while taking in the local sights!

Ron
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nothermark

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Apr 5, 2012, 6:54:44 PM4/5/12
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yup.

One of the criteria for our next unit is being able to get up and walk
to the bathroom and get a meal without opening the slide.
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Tom J

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Apr 12, 2012, 9:10:25 PM4/12/12
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stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On 30 Mar 2012 11:20:02 -0500, nothermark <nothe...@not.here>
>> wrote: I've seen MH's and pull behinds but I never say a popup in a
>> Walmart that was up and in use. The other two options are not so
>> obviously spending the night. What does is the story on "free"
>> camping in a popup?

> Walmart sez RVers are welcome to overnight at their premises, as long
> as there are no municipal by-laws prohibiting such activity.

There is a long list of Wal-Marts that the locals have past ordinances
against overnighting in parking lots. A LONG LIST!!!!

Just from the actions of people like you!!

Tom J


Dean

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Apr 12, 2012, 10:44:21 PM4/12/12
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:10:25 -0400, "Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
That is not my understanding. That it is a "LONG LIST". IIRC, a city
in Montana (Billings?) banned WM parking. The RV community across the
country avoided the town like the plague. They relented.

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women in the world than anything else. Except insects.

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JKConey

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Apr 13, 2012, 2:31:48 PM4/13/12
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On 4/12/2012 4:51 PM, stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:40:50 -0400, Owen McKenzie<jomck...@escapees.com> wrote:
>> What Tom said. The few times we've stopped at a Walmart to overnight we
>> do the following:
>>
>> 1. Go inside to get permission.
>> 2. Get something to eat and/or shop the store.
>> 3. Sleep is our unit without opening slides.
>>
> As a veteran Wal-Mart camper of many decades, I consider this bad information.
>
> First of all, since the WalMart website has already provided written permission for RVers to overnight on
> their premises, there is no need to go inside and ask permission. That's just wasting WalMart's time and
> resources to seek a second opinion on something they have already made abundantly clear.
>
> The only time we ask permission, is when the lot is posted with "No Overnight RV Parking" signs. In the
> majority of instances of such signs, they are meaningless, and merely erected to appease the natives; and they
> assure us that Wal-Mart won't be kicking us out. The only caveat they (Fort Meyers) request, is: "If anyone
> asks you if you have permission to overnight here, you didn't get permission from Wal-Mart!" :-)
>
> In Kissimmee, they are VERY strict. No overnighting no matter what! But advise you go a mile up the road to
> Sams Club which is just outside the Kissimmee town limits, you will be welcome. Not only that, but Sams Club
> now also supplies free wifi for their overnight guests!! :-)
>
> We have been WalMarting for the past forty years, and never run into any kind of difficulty.
> Occasionally, you will find a posted lot, but all you need to do is look for the nearest WalMart lot on your
> GPS, and it will provide you with an abundance of useful options.


I'm brand new to all this but just reading, it seems there's a
class system operating here. RVers that are either not as well off, or
just plain thrifty vs the well off big riggers. Am I far off base?
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Tom J

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:39:10 PM4/13/12
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JC, this is one of those I told you about. He is one of those causing the
problems with overnighting at Wal-mart and other commercial parking lots. If
you read what he wrote "I have never had a problem" and then goes on the
list a couple he could not use out of the 100+ no one can use because of the
actions of campers like him. He was right about 1 thing. Actions like he
takes gets the attention of people living in the neighborhood and that in
turn get the local government to pass and ordinance that there will be no
overnight parking.

It's not a class action, but an issue of being able to stay over night in a
parking lot and looking like that is what you are doing - just parking!!

Tom J


Owen McKenzie

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Apr 14, 2012, 4:11:26 PM4/14/12
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What follows is a letter that is supported by Escapees, FMCA, & many,
many manufacturer's groups:
>
> > Dear Fellow RVers,
> Some of the most respected RV consumer clubs have joined together to support your right to park
> on private businesses’ parking lots overnight under the following code of conduct:
> Industry-sanctioned Code of Conduct
> (RVers’ Good Neighbor Policy)
> 1. Stay one night only!
> 2. Obtain permission from a qualified individual.
> 3. Obey posted regulations.
> 4. No awnings, chairs, or barbecue grills.
> 5. Do not use hydraulic jacks on soft surfaces (including asphalt).
> 6. Always leave an area cleaner than you found it.
> 7. Purchase gas, food or supplies as a form of thank you, when feasible.
> 8. Be safe! Always be aware of your surroundings and leave if you feel unsafe.
> If your plans include touring the area, staying for more than one night or necessitate conduct not
> within the code, please relocate to a local campground. It’s the right thing to do!
> Most of the complaints lodged regarding RV parking on business parking lots have to do with
> aesthetics and perceived abuse of the privilege. There are a variety of competing interests that
> were balanced to arrive at this industry-sanctioned code of conduct. As you can see, the Code of
> Conduct is nothing more than an RVers’ “Good Neighbor” policy.
> Not following the code has serious consequences and is detrimental to the rights of all RVers.
> Already, some municipalities have passed ordinances to prohibit parking on private business
> property overnight.
> Please do not take offense to this letter; it is only provided as a reminder that RVers must be
> perceived as good neighbors, or there will be more pressure to institute state, county and local
> ordinances to prohibit parking on private business property.
> We wish you safe and happy travels,

It is a letter that is to be placed on a vehicle that "may" not be
exercising good judgement.

Tom J

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Apr 14, 2012, 7:36:03 PM4/14/12
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I had not seen that publication before! I agrre with what it says and will
make some copies to hand out at our rallies. GOOD ADVICE

Tom J


Cantellya

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Jul 21, 2012, 1:56:16 AM7/21/12
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:45:53 -0400, stan....@hotmail.com wrote:

>>stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On 30 Mar 2012 11:20:02 -0500, nothermark <nothe...@not.here>
>>>> wrote: I've seen MH's and pull behinds but I never say a popup in a
>>>> Walmart that was up and in use. The other two options are not so
>>>> obviously spending the night. What does is the story on "free"
>>>> camping in a popup?
>>
>>> Walmart sez RVers are welcome to overnight at their premises, as long
>>> as there are no municipal by-laws prohibiting such activity.
>>
>>On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:10:25 -0400, "Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>There is a long list of Wal-Marts that the locals have past ordinances
>>against overnighting in parking lots. A LONG LIST!!!!
>>
>>Just from the actions of people like you!!
>
>No big deal! There's always another WalMart just a couple miles up the road, who will welcome you with
>enthusiasm! Whenever I encounter an off-limits Wal-Mart, I just ask my GPS to direct me to the next Wal-Mart
>in the direction I am going.

Don't try it in Sieverville, TN. City ordinance will not allow any
overnighting in any parking lot. The city boyz will roust you out.
Wal-Mart doesn't mind, but the local RV parks do, and there is where
the ordinace come from.
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Owen McKenzie

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Jul 26, 2012, 9:00:14 PM7/26/12
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On 7/26/2012 7:22 PM, stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:45:53 -0400, stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On 30 Mar 2012 11:20:02 -0500, nothermark <nothe...@not.here>
>>>>>> wrote: I've seen MH's and pull behinds but I never say a popup in a
>>>>>> Walmart that was up and in use. The other two options are not so
>>>>>> obviously spending the night. What does is the story on "free"
>>>>>> camping in a popup?
>>>>
>>>>> Walmart sez RVers are welcome to overnight at their premises, as long
>>>>> as there are no municipal by-laws prohibiting such activity.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:10:25 -0400, "Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> There is a long list of Wal-Marts that the locals have past ordinances
>>>> against overnighting in parking lots. A LONG LIST!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Just from the actions of people like you!!
>>>
>>> No big deal! There's always another WalMart just a couple miles up the road, who will welcome you with
>>> enthusiasm! Whenever I encounter an off-limits Wal-Mart, I just ask my GPS to direct me to the next Wal-Mart
>>> in the direction I am going.
>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:56:16 -0400, Cantellya <Cant...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Don't try it in Sieverville, TN. City ordinance will not allow any
>> overnighting in any parking lot. The city boyz will roust you out.
>> Wal-Mart doesn't mind, but the local RV parks do, and there is where
>> the ordinace come from.
>
> Never heard of Sieverville; but we always overnight in the friendly WalMart at Knoxville each winter during
> our trek to the south. That's our first shopping stop after entering the USA, where we spend $$$ + $$$ in
> preparation for our southern trek. Never heard of Sieverville. These kind of entities are rather common place,
> and unmemorable.
>
That's probably because it's Sevierville. :).

Seriously, I'm about 3 miles from that store, and they do have signs in
the lot but I've seen RVs there.

BTW, It's Dolly Parton's home town.

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Owen McKenzie
Posting from Pigeon Forge, TN

We were promised hope and change.
We got hype and blame.

George Anthony

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Jul 27, 2012, 10:50:00 AM7/27/12
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"Owen McKenzie" <jomck...@escapees.com> wrote in message
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...and in case you can't sleep worrying about it, the name is pronounced
"SEVEREville".

Sealand

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Jul 31, 2012, 3:49:42 PM7/31/12
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On Friday, March 30, 2012 11:20:02 AM UTC-5, nothermark wrote:
> I've seen MH's and pull behinds but I never say a popup in a Walmart
>
> that was up and in use. The other two options are not so obviously
>
> spending the night. What does is the story on "free" camping in a
>
> popup?

Hello

I am new to this group and yes wally world allows pop-ups
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